Can the Linaro toolchain be built into a TWizz ROM or is it only compatible with an AOSP build? Is it something that I can easily inject into a TWizz ROM I am already running like UltraLight 3.0? I am seeing Linaro start to pop up everywhere and have read a little about it, but not quite ready to jump to AOSP just yet. This phone is the first TWizz device I have used and I am liking the TWizz and Samsung features. I came from an OG Evo4G running Deck's ReLoaded .500 AOSP and its great, but like I said for now Im not ready to jump to another AOSP just yet.
spotopolis said:
Can the Linaro toolchain be built into a TWizz ROM or is it only compatible with an AOSP build? Is it something that I can easily inject into a TWizz ROM I am already running like UltraLight 3.0? I am seeing Linaro start to pop up everywhere and have read a little about it, but not quite ready to jump to AOSP just yet. This phone is the first TWizz device I have used and I am liking the TWizz and Samsung features. I came from an OG Evo4G running Deck's ReLoaded .500 AOSP and its great, but like I said for now Im not ready to jump to another AOSP just yet.
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You use the tool chain to compile the rom from source. ..the only ones that compile touch wiz from source is Samsung . You would need Samsung to use the tool chain to compile for it to be in a touch wiz rom ..
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spotopolis said:
Can the Linaro toolchain be built into a TWizz ROM or is it only compatible with an AOSP build? Is it something that I can easily inject into a TWizz ROM I am already running like UltraLight 3.0? I am seeing Linaro start to pop up everywhere and have read a little about it, but not quite ready to jump to AOSP just yet. This phone is the first TWizz device I have used and I am liking the TWizz and Samsung features. I came from an OG Evo4G running Deck's ReLoaded .500 AOSP and its great, but like I said for now Im not ready to jump to another AOSP just yet.
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While it could be done, Samsung doesn't release the source to touchwiz. just like htc didn't release sense...its oem software
Just isn't gonna happen, sorry
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Has anyone tried any of the aosp kernerls with the newest cyanogen? Im running a nightly after the newest release its real stable and smooth, but ya know if I'm not tinkering with my phone then I'm not having fun....
I've used Zendroid it seems to work well. Development seems like it dropped off on that kernel though. I'm eagerly awaiting Snap's new release, which I heard should be around the last week of December.
Right now I'm just using the stock kernel though, to be honest.
I appreciate the honesty.
Im currently using bc blend and its smooth with smart ass governor
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BC Blend? I'm not familiar with that one, also I'm familiar with all the governors, except smart$$, whats the premise of that one?
Bcblend is the kernel created for the miui Rom for the evo. Miui is asop so it should work with cyanogen. I'm running miui with Bcblend and I think its the best battery life I've had on my evo.
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Hi,
Now I did search as much as possible on the interwebs, like tiamat's blog, xda, miui forums etc. So I guess I'll go ahead and ask this sorta noob question eek: oh no he didn't ).
Why are there no 3.0 kernels and what would be the advantage of them? On a tangent, I note that even the transformer prime has no 3.0 kernel...
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What in the name of balls is a 3.0 kernel?
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What in the name of balls is a 3.0 kernel?
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Linux kernel version 3.x. As in we are currently using kernel version 2.6.35.x.. Galaxy nexus has 3.08 kernel or something.
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We're currently using modified gingerbread kernels (the 2.6 ones i think?) because we havent received kernel source from HTC yet
This phone is slated for an ICS update, once we get that and kernel source i'm pretty sure a 3.0 kernel will follow
It's because we don't have an official update yet. That's what all the ICS roms are pretty much waiting for - an offical ICS kernel from HTC.
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It's because we don't have an official update yet. That's what all the ICS roms are pretty much waiting for - an offical ICS kernel from HTC.
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Okay. So as I understand the kernel will have several proprietary modules and therefore we can't compile our own 3.0 kernel yet? As it may cause several incompatibilities, am I right?
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litetaker said:
Okay. So as I understand the kernel will have several proprietary modules and therefore we can't compile our own 3.0 kernel yet? As it may cause several incompatibilities, am I right?
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No, we just can't compile one because we don't have source.
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tylerlawhon said:
No, we just can't compile one because we don't have source.
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I am confused. The linux kernel is open source. So the Source code for the 3.0 kernel is available. So, what do you mean by "we don't have source"? Are you referring to any drivers whose modules we may not have as they are proprietary? Or something else?
Anyway, I just realized thanks to this article that the 3.0 kernel is no big deal and has no new, "awesome" features and is not a major jump like the GB to ICS, or gnome 2 to gnome 3, or the KDE 3 to KDE 4 jump... Just a new numbering scheme. So, may be the kernel we have now is more than enough to run ICS (except for the camera glitch though...)
Thanks for the responses guys!
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I am confused. The linux kernel is open source. So the Source code for the 3.0 kernel is available. So, what do you mean by "we don't have source"? Are you referring to any drivers whose modules we may not have as they are proprietary? Or something else?
Anyway, I just realized thanks to this article that the 3.0 kernel is no big deal and has no new, "awesome" features and is not a major jump like the GB to ICS, or gnome 2 to gnome 3, or the KDE 3 to KDE 4 jump... Just a new numbering scheme. So, may be the kernel we have now is more than enough to run ICS (except for the camera glitch though...)
Thanks for the responses guys!
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The Linux kernel is, yes. However, a kernel is very device specific. So, without having one from an OTA or better yet, HTC releasing kernel source code for this device specifically, we can't make any. So far (as stated before), all our ics ROMs are using hacked up gingerbread kernels (which is an incredible feat in itself). We have basic kernel source code, sure, but what we're lacking is the proprietary drivers, libs, and other stuff that makes this device run.
Hope this all made sense.
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Each kernel is device specific with the oem s specific changes....it is possible to build one without the.exact source...but you would need some similar source for reference like teamhacksung using the nexus s as a base for sgs phones
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The Linux kernel is, yes. However, a kernel is very device specific. So, without having one from an OTA or better yet, HTC releasing kernel source code for this device specifically, we can't make any. So far (as stated before), all our ics ROMs are using hacked up gingerbread kernels (which is an incredible feat in itself). We have basic kernel source code, sure, but what we're lacking is the proprietary drivers, libs, and other stuff that makes this device run.
Hope this all made sense.
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Yes, this helps me understand it better. Anyway, I'm not really waiting for the 3.0 kernel anymore as I learned it was just a renumbering scheme! I was expecting I could launch a space shuttle with it, like I can drive my car supersonic with ICS (hehehe..) But it apparently has just the usual dose of bug fixes compared to our current kernel.
Thanks y'all!
Hi there, I'm a long standing G2 user switching over to a Galaxy Note II (in the mail). Shopping around for what ROM I should try first, kind of having a hard time wrapping my head around features I should care about and where each ROM is in the stability and completeness sense.
I'm more into the stock Android look and feel, so guessing TouchWiz is garbage I don't want. NFC sounds fun and I want LTE to work once the Tmo network is turned on. Maybe play with some wireless charging. Also really looking forward to having a device with a stylus again, so what S-Pen stuff should I care about? Also are any of the other "S" labeled apps and features from the stock ROM desirable (S-Beam for instance)? Additionally I want to eventually use the thing with an external keyboard and mouse through that nifty dock.
Basically I'm looking for ROM recommendations, got any?
Thanks!
i would recommend you to Jedix9 and Jedi8 ROM...try them out first if they fit your desires
Stock Android
I'm Into Pure/Stock Android As Well
I Would Recommend
[ROM] [AOSP][LINARO] LIQUIDSMOOTH JellyBean [4.2.1] Beta 3.2.1 [t0lte] » Jan 26
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108762
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[ROM][TMO] AOKP JB 4.2.1 [PUB] [Jan - 30] cherry-picks galore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119381
Good Luck!
I'm not saying that AOSP based ROMs aren't absolutely great (because I am running the CM10.1 Nightlys ) but TouchWiz is actually pretty freaking great. I am an AOSP fanatic but I still loved TouchWiz. The only reason I am on CM10.1 is because I just wanted to try it because my previous phone only had CM10, not 10.1.
I will say though, the stock TouchWiz launcher did not have enough options for my so I used Nova Prime. That made it feel like an AOSP ROM from the future because it looked and felt a bit like stock Google code but had all the TouchWiz features I loved.
Basically all I am saying is at least give the new TouchWiz a shot before you wright it off because you may find that you enjoy it.
Happy flashing
I too would recommend jedi 8 as well. It's close to stock (wifi calling), and battery life seems improved.
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Im on JediMaster 8 running perseus kernel. Both are a great combo for battery life. However, I do enjoy me some AOSP.
One question you should ask yourself when deciding if you should use AOSP or TouchWiz is "Am I going to use the S-pen frequently?" If so, go with TouchWiz, if not then I'd say try some of the AOSP ROMs
Jedi X9 with Color HD theme is really cool, very stable and without losing any stock functionality except wifi calling (which if youd rather have then use Jedi Master 9 which dropped last night) basically roms are the same, functionality wise
Top 3
1/ (tie) Jedi X9 or JM9
3 CM 10.1 nightlies (non TW) or some of the debloated stock roms
Recommend looking into kernals too, sometimes they are updated before the rom is and you can OC and UV for more battery/performance
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fandroid93 said:
I'm not saying that AOSP based ROMs aren't absolutely great (because I am running the CM10.1 Nightlys ) but TouchWiz is actually pretty freaking great. I am an AOSP fanatic but I still loved TouchWiz. The only reason I am on CM10.1 is because I just wanted to try it because my previous phone only had CM10, not 10.1.
I will say though, the stock TouchWiz launcher did not have enough options for my so I used Nova Prime. That made it feel like an AOSP ROM from the future because it looked and felt a bit like stock Google code but had all the TouchWiz features I loved.
Basically all I am saying is at least give the new TouchWiz a shot before you wright it off because you may find that you enjoy it.
Happy flashing
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+1 ... couldn't agree more with your assessment... he definitely shou I d give TW a shot and, of course, experince a little bit of CM too.
Cant wait for CM10.1 to get over those final few hurdles
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No wifi calling for me considering my Tmo service is data only.
So is TouchWiz with just stock or do other ROMs incorporate its features?
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No wifi calling for me considering my Tmo service is data only.
So is TouchWiz with just stock or do other ROMs incorporate its features?
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Some roms do incorporate TW but as you mentioned you are more "aosp/aokp" inclined so youll lose out on several features (unless you flash TW based roms)
Key Features lost on non TW based roms include: Multi Window and certain SPen Functions like AirView, Button pressing activities, and a few others
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I'd recommend Jedi x9.. it's great
C.S.
Ok, let me rephrase that question, which ROMs include TouchWiz features? Guessing the Jedi ROMs do? Any others I should look at?
Additionally if I'm going to run a 64gb MicroSD card, what kernel is worth while to test out with?
Thanks for the great replies!
While less popular/known it seems, you could always try Tweaked
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While less popular/known it seems, you could always try Tweaked
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I've got to second the recommendation to check out Tweaked (as well as extend a hearty "Thanks!" to dwitherell for his work)! It's simply a rock-solid implementation of the TW features plus, well, some excellent customizable tweaks One of the first roms that I flashed was from the Jedi X series, but soon after realized that I needed wifi-calling in my apt. so decided to check out Tweaked (1.0 at the time) before flashing Jedi Master, and have stuck with it ever since. Currently very happy / impressed running Tweaked 1.3 with the Perseus 32.1 kernel.
Im loving Jedi X9 wiyh Perseus kernel
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Jedi, Tweaked, or rooted stock. Been running Tweaked since yesterday and it has some very nice features.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}
Thanks for all the responses, I've ended up going with Tweaked and am pretty happy with it. Now trying to wrap my head around how to access the SD card from a linux machine.
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Thanks for all the responses, I've ended up going with Tweaked and am pretty happy with it. Now trying to wrap my head around how to access the SD card from a linux machine.
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What are you looking to accomplish? Whats the end goal of accessing your SD Card from linux vs Windows?
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What are you looking to accomplish? Whats the end goal of accessing your SD Card from linux vs Windows?
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Everything. I've ended up running files over SSH with a local FUSE mount.
Thread title.
I was just wondering because TW roms are based on the current released version for the phone whereas AOSP roms are the latest android version ported over to the phone, is this correct?
My experience is yes, tw is more stable. Although aosp roms are for versions unreleased to our phone, such as 4.2.2. They are usually pretty stable and get better with time. It just takes time for developers to fix things. But you miss out on things such as being able to update prl or profile in the Aosp ROMs. AOSP ROMs aren't necessarily ported though, a lot are built from source, but I get what you are saying.
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My experience is yes, tw is more stable. Although aosp roms are for versions unreleased to our phone, such as 4.2.2. They are usually pretty stable and get better with time. It just takes time for developers to fix things. But you miss out on things such as being able to update prl or profile in the Aosp ROMs. AOSP ROMs aren't necessarily ported though, a lot are built from source, but I get what you are saying.
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Thanks, for the longest time (up until today) I never saw the point in TW roms.
I was pretty naive and thought they were inferior in every way but the more I look into it I see there are lots of pros and cons to both
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Thread title.
I was just wondering because TW roms are based on the current released version for the phone whereas AOSP roms are the latest android version ported over to the phone, is this correct?
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It depends. There are some unstable tw roms out there.
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sevenpioverthree said:
Thread title.
I was just wondering because TW roms are based on the current released version for the phone whereas AOSP roms are the latest android version ported over to the phone, is this correct?
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It really depends on who is building the Rom... right now, with them working out the bugs with the new 3.4 kernel must aosp roms are going to have some bugs.... tw is great though, more goodies in them and I generally get better performance and battery with tw roms... once the 3.4 kernel gets ironed out things should be pretty on par with tw on aosp though... I know of an almost completely stable 3.4 kernel, but it can't be mentioned here..
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I love miui, im currently on miui v5 JB based and its pretty stable. but i would love to see a kitkat based miui rom rather it be miui v5 kitkat or muiu v6 when it comes out.
i would like to to port it but i have no idea on how to go about that yet.
also would i be able to use the same 3.4 miui v5 JB kernel for v5 kitkat OS?
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xdarkmario said:
I love miui, im currently on miui v5 JB based and its pretty stable. but i would love to see a kitkat based miui rom rather it be miui v5 kitkat or muiu v6 when it comes out.
i would like to to port it but i have no idea on how to go about that yet.
also would i be able to use the same 3.4 miui v5 JB kernel for v5 kitkat OS?
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one of the other devs does the miui work and I believe a v6 is in the future,i hope
I don't think it's happening anytime soon not enough interest in MIUI and lacks customization like other roms imo
I hope they continue because I'm utterly disgusted with touchwiz based Roms and their restrictions and messing up my internal storage.
MIUI is the only kind of ROMs I can ever live with always been that way now I think about it so either miui porting continues or I become a badass developer/porter Overnight and learn source code lol
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I would try but I haven't worked on anything in a while and i don't have a source built base to start with
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Notorious said:
I would try but I haven't worked on anything in a while and i don't have a source built base to start with
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PLEASE,ive seen your work in the past.tear apart miui and add some really cool toys to what we already have ive seen your past work and I know you can build something
Notorious makes great roms. Would like to see a new kitkat MIUI from him!
We all would be very grateful if you made this
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I don't have a base to start with
A base for v6 or v5?
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A base for v6 or v5?
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V5 v6 won't be possible for a while. Porting from Xiaomi devices is the most difficult thing to do. Have to wait for a aosp phone to get it like Nexus or wait for Patchrom to be released for it
Edit: Just informed switching to t-mobile by the end of the month new phone here I come!
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Notorious said:
V5 v6 won't be possible for a while. Porting from Xiaomi devices is the most difficult thing to do. Have to wait for a aosp phone to get it like Nexus or wait for Patchrom to be released for it
Edit: Just informed switching to t-mobile by the end of the month new phone here I come!
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a dev named chevelle,btw love that name bc I had a 66 chevelle ss,one bad ass car,anyway,if you know him he picked up working on this rom for our galaxies a while back.if anybody could do it he might
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V5 v6 won't be possible for a while. Porting from Xiaomi devices is the most difficult thing to do. Have to wait for a aosp phone to get it like Nexus or wait for Patchrom to be released for it
Edit: Just informed switching to t-mobile by the end of the month new phone here I come!
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Bet a aosp phone will get it fast because I was reading that that some other phones are getting v6 like the international S3
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Bet a aosp phone will get it fast because I was reading that that some other phones are getting v6 like the international S3
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Buti definitely won't mind having a kk v5 until then
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Bet a aosp phone will get it fast because I was reading that that some other phones are getting v6 like the international S3
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Buti definitely won't mind having a kk v5 until then
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International s3 is not getting official MIUI V6
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International s3 is not getting official MIUI V6
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sorry, misread, i9505 which is galaxy s 4
i have never been so excited for a rom launch in a long time. miui v6 will be a rebirth!