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preferred rom?

I see the bonsai and the viper are the 2 most common ones? (I based it off the replies to the threads lol)
just a new rooter looking for a good rom.
anyone have any advantages over another?
one thing I'd like is speed, battery life and a gps fix. obviously stable is good too
thanks!
oh, and ease of install is a big plus too
i just loaded up clockwork now.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=714
try this rom, its the fastest

Is there any way to put up like a warning screen that only DEVELOPERS should be posting new threads in the development forum? Like when you click new topic something pops up and makes you do something annoying that forces the user to actually read that their inane question does not belong in the development section?

ericizzy1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=714
try this rom, its the fastest
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you got me

muyoso said:
Is there any way to put up like a warning screen that only DEVELOPERS should be posting new threads in the development forum? Like when you click new topic something pops up and makes you do something annoying that forces the user to actually read that their inane question does not belong in the development section?
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well I was directed here for root related questions so...
you realize it's probably setup like this, because it wasn't intended for developers to post new threads only right?

razorseal said:
well I was directed here for root related questions so...
you realize it's probably setup like this, because it wasn't intended for developers to post new threads only right?
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hey op, look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771590
and this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=716

razorseal said:
well I was directed here for root related questions so...
you realize it's probably setup like this, because it wasn't intended for developers to post new threads only right?
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NO you are WRONG! Seriously this is getting old! Read the forum rules before you post! Post in the GENERAL section!
Mods please get rid of this!

so where should I post my root questions? in general?
I understand I shouldn't start threads here, so a place to ask my questions would be nice. I was told general is not for root questions
thanks

Y e s, g e n e r a l

razorseal said:
so where should I post my root questions? in general?
I understand I shouldn't start threads here, so a place to ask my questions would be nice. I was told general is not for root questions
thanks
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Unlike android central, root questions go in general here.
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razorseal said:
I see the bonsai and the viper are the 2 most common ones? (I based it off the replies to the threads lol)
just a new rooter looking for a good rom.
anyone have any advantages over another?
one thing I'd like is speed, battery life and a gps fix. obviously stable is good too
thanks!
oh, and ease of install is a big plus too
i just loaded up clockwork now.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904787

Please post questions in Q&A section.

Viper is horrid. The Devs think that they are sooooo smart and try to do crazy things that cause major issues.
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marcusant said:
Viper is horrid. The Devs think that they are sooooo smart and try to do crazy things that cause major issues.
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Dont say that... we try to help everyone we can, and we try to make the Rom better for YOU. I normally keep my nose out of things but this is going to far. Say what you want about the Rom or me, but our team tries really hard for YOU. They're good guys.

BThomas22x said:
Dont say that... we try to help everyone we can, and we try to make the Rom better for YOU. I normally keep my nose out of things but this is going to far. Say what you want about the Rom or me, but our team tries really hard for YOU. They're good guys.
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Agreed, your ROM is amazing. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the design of the user interface and notification bar...the gradients are too harsh and it doesn't blend well. Keep up the awesome work, just please try to improve that a little bit
Also if you're ever in need of someone to help out with designing the UI, I'm down.

marcusant said:
Viper is horrid. The Devs think that they are sooooo smart and try to do crazy things that cause major issues.
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Are you serious?
What are you referring to? The whole EXT4 dealie?
Last time I checked there's a few other ROMs with EXT4.

br//0k3/n said:
Agreed, your ROM is amazing. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is the design of the user interface and notification bar...the gradients are too harsh and it doesn't blend well. Keep up the awesome work, just please try to improve that a little bit
Also if you're ever in need of someone to help out with designing the UI, I'm down.
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Surely... go to http://02.chat.mibbit.com then select efnet and the Chanel is #viper. Come in, meet the guys and let's see what you got... we need another themer.
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I have the fastest ROM out right now,Frankenstein FROYO EXT4,I fel like Im going aroung advertising this thing,but its true.
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ecooce said:
I have the fastest ROM out right now,Frankenstein FROYO EXT4,I fel like Im going aroung advertising this thing,but its true.
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And your proof is? ...people want results, not just someone's word.
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I have Cmod and while it has a bug or two, is definitely the "fastest"

Open Letter to XDA Regarding strongsteve

In regards to what happened with strongsteve earlier this evening, I hope that you will come to the realization that you made a mistake. I know that you are attempting to work it out with Steve directly, but that resolution could, and should, be an admission of your misstep and immediate correction of the error.
I don't think anyone on here would argue with your logic in breaking the forums up into general topics. But in this case, the area was gray at best. If all of Steve's users and supporters knew his work and his information to be in the Dev section, what is the harm in leaving it in the Dev section? Instead, you so insulted a great contributor to the point that he felt compelled to shut his project down. I would strongly argue that that is far more harmful than having Steve's work appear in the Dev section of the forum.
I'm not suggesting that the notion of sub-forums be removed. We can't have chaos here. But in the case of something so gray, something so questionable, you made a bad call. Hell, I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this thread gets moved. But I wanted Steve and his supporters to read this, and this is the sub-forum they are trolling.
So I ask you to simply right your wrong. Because if you don't, a great many of us are going to miss out on some fantastic DEV WORK that Steve is doing.

So what I miss?
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locoboi187 said:
So what I miss?
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Mod:
This is clearly a themed ROM - using a base that is a deodexed base of the stock ROM. This is not an Original Development ROM, but is a themed ROM - so it is moved to Themes & Apps. It is entirely appropriate to place themed ROMs in the Themes section.
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Steve:
I will no longer be supporting these roms or developing any more odexed modded roms since they are not considered worthy for the Dev section
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Just read his threads. His work is original development. Go read a dictionary for "develop" ... Jerdog is in the wrong. Taking away CIQ is not a theme either lol. He was the first to have it odexed, it is original
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I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao

SupahDave said:
I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
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I'm more civilized compared to others when it comes to moving threads. It's the internet,nbd lol
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in b4 lock

Also in regards to "original" development. This isn't the international thread for the galaxy s2. They have separate sections for original development and the other normal development. We have one, it's called development, and the developer was only developing
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just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint

These guys are rough.
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T.C.P said:
just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
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+100000000
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Not to troll but I'm sure this thread will be closed in a few so I'd like to comment about this situation.. I don't know the full jist but I would think that we as a community would do anything in our power to keep these devs happy cause without them we got NOTHING...Well maybe Rootzwiki but Like I just said....NADA!!! So I support Steve all the way!!!

Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have. Looking over the thread I can see how this decision by the mods is heavy handed.

What ROM did Steve make?

psych2l said:
Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have.
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Agree with this.
one less dev. not cool.

jerdog said:
I think you missed the point here - no one is saying what has been done here isn't worthy - quite the contrary. This is an effort to move things that are original development and separate them from things that are MOD's and Themes. There is a difference between creating a ROM from scratch and theming someone else's work by taking pieces from here and there, making changes and then zipping it up into an update.zip.
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This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!

This is not a school we are grown people that are subpose to make a community of something we enjoy since when did everyone get there panties In a twist and further more I like to see the moderator Dec anything cause last time I check every rom has sprints of base and everey. Rom thread has thank yous to other devs. Tweaks . Let us work together cause if stuff like this keeps happening people are gonna start jumping ship to rootswiki it ppc. And that's my 2 cents VERY DISAPPOINTED XDA!
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ervman1 said:
This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
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Yes, you can flash separate mods if you are deodexed, but Steve odexed some of those mods that otherwise were only meant to be used on deodexed roms by their original developers. As I understand, he was working on odexing others as well. In addition, the other roms on here include all sorts of mods created by others. The all also give credit where credit is due, Steve included as stated previously.
Please leave Strongsteve's roms in the dev section as he has created the only odexed roms with the goodies we all want to have and was continually adding more as he revised the original mods to be compatible with an odexed rom.

PLEASE!! be nice to Strongsteve's he does deserve the respect..... at the same time I wanna give a shoutout to Strongsteve's for all the great job he has done. I thank you very much.

I totally agree with this and feel they are way off base. I support strongsteve fully.
It takes a lot to admit being wrong but that is what needs to happen here from mods.
It was nice to finally see odexed getting some respect not to mention the dev section for this phone finally getting a good amount of activity.
A good thing has been taken away. Please reconsider.
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[Q] Bug free roms

Can you guys please help me find a ROM (4.x.x) that is completely bug free? I had to ask this question because I wanted to upgrade from a long time ( I am on 2.3.3 phantom rom) to ICS or JB but all I could find is either alpha or beta version of roms. Most other are direct derivatives of these buggy versions. Something does not work or something is broken in most of them from what I read. So if you can help me by suggesting some roms that I can upgrade to with out experiencing bugs that would help me. Thanks!

Seriously? In before the lock...
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Mattix724 said:
Seriously? In before the lock...
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I am sorry but I did not get that... Are you suggesting that this is not a good question? Well can you suggest me some rom with minimum bugs at least? Thanks.

Simple and straightforward answer. There's NONE. With less bugs you should ask.
Try some, if you like keep it, if not keep trying. Doesn't hurt to do some tries and research.
But seriously: In Before The Lock. :beer:
Would like to add: wrong section.
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IB4L :thumbup:
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sandred said:
Can you guys please help me find a ROM (4.x.x) that is completely bug free? I had to ask this question because I wanted to upgrade from a long time ( I am on 2.3.3 phantom rom) to ICS or JB but all I could find is either alpha or beta version of roms. Most other are direct derivatives of these buggy versions. Something does not work or something is broken in most of them from what I read. So if you can help me by suggesting some roms that I can upgrade to with out experiencing bugs that would help me. Thanks!
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Lightweight.
Edit:- I just got upset PMs from rest of developers. See why this threads are no good?

BluesRulez said:
Lightweight.
Edit:- I just got upset PMs from rest of developers. See why this threads are no good?
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Very mature indeed. I am sorry for bringing this up and posting it here. Thanks for all the help.

sandred said:
Very mature indeed. I am sorry for bringing this up and posting it here. Thanks for all the help.
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If you want a stable and full functional JB flash FL16 o GA10
If lyou like AOSP flash a CM or AOKP flavor there are other (note there are various bugs nothing big if you can deal with it.
If you like Stock modified too many to mention one but a heard a kuban named rom is awesome.
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Wow.. I'm pretty disappointed at the negative comments here.
Don't flame it is against XDA rules, no matter what the question is.
Thread moved to Q&A.

Any of the new jb leaks fk23 thru ga10 are pretty good dd if your looking for something along the lines of touchwiz based roms if you like something different then you can try out cm10.1 which Im reading has very good feed back its all about your preferences on what you do with your phone if you like playing with tweaks or if your just someone that wants a simple phone to make calls on ect ect. Theres alot of roms out there that have minimum issues my suggestion is look thru the threads check out the screenshots if it looks like something you may want to run do some light reading thru the thread and see what people are reporting as far as issues.
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The-Captain said:
Wow.. I'm pretty disappointed at the negative comments here.
Don't flame it is against XDA rules, no matter what the question is.
Thread moved to Q&A.
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Sorry you feel that way.
But in the history of the e4gt forums, such threads have not been very fruitful.
Few reasons..
-A bug I experience with a particular ROM, may not be experienced by someone else.
-Something not working on a ROM such as MHL on a rom may not be a big deal for me but may be a "major" bug for someone else.
-Lastly not all developers think alike and some may not be happy when their ROM is not mentioned in such threads..
Thats why such threads are always closed by Mods in this forum. Thus all the negative comments.

Im pretty happy with the one click oden FL16, i might try out the new version. If you want working wimax stick with stock/ touchwiz roms. All ASOP, AKOP, CM10, CM10.1 roms say there 4g works. but really all it does is turn on and look like it works. You will only experience blazing speeds of 750k.

BluesRulez said:
Sorry you feel that way.
But in the history of the e4gt forums, such threads have not been very fruitful.
Few reasons..
-A bug I experience with a particular ROM, may not be experienced by someone else.
-Something not working on a ROM such as MHL on a rom may not be a big deal for me but may be a "major" bug for someone else.
-Lastly not all developers think alike and some may not be happy when their ROM is not mentioned in such threads..
Thats why such threads are always closed by Mods in this forum. Thus all the negative comments.
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While I understand that, the better way instead of filling this thread with negative comments is to explain that. Then after that, you could report it and link to a thread discussing it :good:

I like cm10.1 right now. If you want something pretty bug free and easy to install get the fk23 or ga10 one clicks. They are pretty much test otas from what I can tell and work well. They are tw based but they got a lot of the ICS and Jb features.
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What would be the Ultimate ROM ????

What would be the ultimate ROM. If a DEV could have all the Tweaks and Mods in a single flash. All the different lock screens. All the customization's and MODs from our favs. We have some flash addicts here I know. I had the Skyrocket before with a lot of different ROMs. Now that I have the Note 2, I've tried a bunch. I bet there is a DEV out there who could make the [Everything ROM] One with like I said, a little of all the options. Would Aroma installer be the best way to flash it. Have all the mods and customizing available for you to choose.*Or just choose ALL.... That would be sick......It might be impossible, but then again nothing is here @ XDA.....Love this site.
Thanks to all you DEVs that take the time to make our phones better.!!!!

The ultimate ROM is the one you like the most
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The EVERYTHING ROM
No, I run the SKYNOTE 8 ROM. Its a beast! I just think it would be sick to have a EVERYTHING ROM. With Aroma installer and tons of options. Dont know if it can be done though. I am reading up on making ROMs as we post. I'm the type to stay up all night just to get something to work.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
No, I run the SKYNOTE 8 ROM. Its a beast! I just think it would be sick to have a EVERYTHING ROM. With Aroma installer and tons of options. Dont know if it can be done though. I am reading up on making ROMs as we post. I'm the type to stay up all night just to get something to work.
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If you built one yourself that would be epic:thumbup:
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cdshepherd said:
If you built one yourself that would be epic:thumbup:
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Lol
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Lucky going 2 for 2 closed threads in one day. Lol

The one that can incorporate everything every user and dev and tinkerer can imagine with of course insane battery life and stability.

Im new but know my stuff. I MOD everything...
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Lucky going 2 for 2 closed threads in one day. Lol
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Lol. Im not going 2 for 2. I have much respect for this site and just want to be involved you know...

Getting one thread closed that you made earlier.. And then trying to work around the rules by posting another similar thread with a topic that is completely correlated with the now locked thread isn't having respect for the site, nor its users.
Edit: to keep from bumping this thread, I'll reply here.
better yet, buddy, tell me how this thread is showing respect for xda.
Here: for the next time that you have an Off Topic idea that you want to "just throw out there"
You said you came from the i727 forums. If you know anything about that forum, then you know that stupid threads like this aren't allowed. What you learn in one forum, apply to the next that you visit. That's how it's disrespectful.
Take the advice given to you. Build something, find someone to collaborate with, whatever, and then ask what you can do to make it better for the users. This thread stands to put pressure on devs to do more than they already work their butts off doing.

Really
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Getting one thread closed that you made earlier.. And then trying to work around the rules by posting another similar thread with a topic that is completely correlated with the now locked thread isn't having respect for the site, nor its users.
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I'm not talking about all the ROMs. Im just throwing an idea out there about the EVERYTHING ROM. A lttle of each liked ROM or an Aroma Installer with a ton of options. Tell me how thats disrespectful. I can see why my first ever post got closed. Dont see that here buddy. Thanks

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Do not open another "Best Rom" Thread again..... they are not helpful........ the 1st post's answer is the right one....... the rom you like .....is the best........
.........THREAD CLOSED...........

[Q] Which TW Rom do you believe is the best on AT&T Note II? Why?

I'm just curious and want to hear answers from you guys, what do you believe is the best TouchWiz ROM on the Note II? If you could list your pro's and con's I would greatly appreciate it.
Also, if you're running AOSP Roms, I'd like to hear your reason why you got away from TouchWiz?
Thanks in advance!

The best one is the one that suits your needs best! Why else would there be so many good ones to chose from? Try them and or read about them and find the one that you like. This will be closed soon I'm sure.
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Kreateablaze said:
The best one is the one that suits your needs best! Why else would there be so many good ones to chose from? Try them and or read about them and find the one that you like. This will be closed soon I'm sure.
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Clearly, you didn't read. I am just trying to start a conversation on what ROM you are running and why you like it the most. I'm not asking for myself so that I can flash a ROM.

I happen to like threads like these. I just hate when a bunch are opened. The whole idea that all roms are created equal is the silliest thing I've seen since youth sports that don't keep score. That said some roms are better than others depending on what your looking for.
My favorite thus far has been Wanamlite over in the 7105 forum. Works great on my ATT note. I've been testing out Jedi for the last day or so and it's been good, but I think I'm going back. Things like per app dpi and pie don't interest me at all and that's the only reason why. I lower the dpi all together and use a different launcher, phone, messaging and so on apps. Just like TW for multi-window and S-Pen.

mgianni19 said:
Clearly, you didn't read. I am just trying to start a conversation on what ROM you are running and why you like it the most. I'm not asking for myself so that I can flash a ROM.
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Still doesn't belong here. Your using the word "best" will surely cause a lot of drama and arguing over which is better.
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I use stock ...
It works the best for me. ..
Root is okay but no CPU changes, only a GPU overclock....g
I also use the stock kernel. ..g

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Still doesn't belong here. Your using the word "best" will surely cause a lot of drama and arguing over which is better.
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Exactly . Threads like this are not allowed and im pretty sure all the stickies in each sub forum say so.
There is no best rom other than what suits you.
Thread reported

All,
"Best Rom" threads are not condoned, they may serve a purpose for the immediate short term, but almost all the time they spiral into arguments about one over another - "Best" is a subjective term.
No more! All users are expected to read and study and flash the ones they are interested in and have discussion in the specific thread(s).
This thread is closed.