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Full Wipe Question

Hope I dont get flamed for this one haha, but yeah, just like the title says. I'm not new to the flashing/rooting scene, I owned a D1 and currently a X, but I'm working on my friends EVO. He was upgraded to Froyo, so I downgraded him, rooted him, full NAND access. That was new to me, the NAND access. But I tried installing a rom (CM6), got an error. Only thing I can think of is I didn't perform a full wipe, because well i'm a little confused what is considered a full wipe for the EVO.
I use CWR for all my stuff, so I did the same with his. The dalvik cache and battery stat is new to me also, what are they and where are they located exactly within recovery? Also, some people posted that you should wipe the EXT, which is the sdcard, right? Can't risk the sd card, I could always back it up, but limited time on my hands.
So just for reference sake, can someone give me the exact details of a full wipe for the EVO (within CWR). Exact steps please.
Thanks for your time.
Also, how can you tell if you don't have full NAND access? Failure of installing a rom, I presume? lol

Going into hboot. Power + volume down when phone is turned off and hold till hboot pops up. Look on top and should say s-off. If so you are fully rooted and nand unlocked. If it says s-on security is still on and need to unlock still..
You should do delvik and cache wipe. Cwr delvik wipe doesn't work and advise get ra recovery in the market. Use Rom manager and flash clockwork on top of the list in program. Then scroll down and click flash other recovery. This will change Cwr to ra recovery.
So anyways you do delvik wipe and cache wipe. Then do a factory reset. Then go to install zip. And find cm6. Should work. Some people downgraded their hboot version to get to work but I didn't have to and did the downgrade for root also. But I did downgrade anyways after cm6 install. Supposedly it has more options?
When you go into recovery go through all the options and check where everything is. Takes 1 or to flashes to naturally know where everything is. Pretty simple.
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Thank you very much. Amons worked perfect.
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You don't need to wipe the ext on SD card unless you partioned your card to do apps to SD. So.don't worry about that. Did you get the Rom working?
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[Q] Best Way to get Super Wiped?

I tried a ROM update today (Magnolia) and my phone is now seriously slow (including SpeedTest which shows about 50Kbps download speed). I attempted to reinstall the same ROM and to restore a Nandroid (neither of which has helped). I did every wipe present in CWM v2.5.1.2 (I know v3.x.x.x is not a good wiper) and in HBOOT, also all to no avail.
It is possible that the ROM is focused on carefully updating itself rather than completely overwriting.
Does anyone have a recommendation as to the best way to really ensure that no old runaway processes are surviving the flashes (ROM or Nandroid)? I am wondering if flashing another ROM would do it (it wouldn't try to update), but am very open to suggestions.
Thanks!

I had the same problem when I would install a rom with the CW 3.0.0.8 and it will just update the current rom, and not do a full wipe like I just to get before with the CW 2.x.x.x what I have done to get a clean install is this...
- I dont use the Rom Manager no more to update...
- Boot into Recovery and do the Following before you install a new Rom..
1-) Wipe Data/ Factory Reset
2-) Wipe Cache Partition
3-) Install the Rom .Zip with CW
Thats how I have done it before hope it helps...

Dont use rom manager to install go into recovery. Do a factory reset twice, then goto mounts and storage and format manually, data, cache, system, boot. Do that twice or more and youre super wiped as you put it. But as far as magnolia goes...did you make sure that you dl'd the flashover and not the whole rom?
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Thanks
Pete - Thanks. I never use RomManager to do ANYTHING (and remain surprised that people do). I do factory reset and wipe in CWM but never formatted system; which I just posted in the Magnolia forum as being what I thought is causing all the trouble. At least this lets me know how to manually do it. Thanks

1107963 said:
I had the same problem when I would install a rom with the CW 3.0.0.8 and it will just update the current rom, and not do a full wipe like I just to get before with the CW 2.x.x.x what I have done to get a clean install is this...
- I dont use the Rom Manager no more to update...
- Boot into Recovery and do the Following before you install a new Rom..
1-) Wipe Data/ Factory Reset
2-) Wipe Cache Partition
3-) Install the Rom .Zip with CW
Thats how I have done it before hope it helps...
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Building on this- I do EVERYTHING from recovery. In addition to the steps listed I also go to "mounts and storage" and wipe /system, /data, /cache, and /boot. Eradicate!
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I gave out a loud guffah when reading this thread title. Maybe stuff's just funnier before having coffee.

johnchad14 said:
I gave out a loud guffah when reading this thread title. Maybe stuff's just funnier before having coffee.
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Right? Super Charmin came to mind right away.
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help im stuck on htc evo screen logo and i cant restore

i was on Calkulin's_EViO_2_ROM_v1.8 and i rebooted to recovery to restore back to cm7 rc4 but it gives me error error while flashing image. so i try to wipe and reinstall another rom and works but it still stuck in htc logo.

Are you performing a full wipe, factory/data, cache, and dalvik?

yes i performing full wipe and everything im uisng clockworkmod recovery 3.0.0.5. did those and install a rom but still stuck in logo screen and i cant restore i made few backup and none them work!?

Have you tried going into the bootloader, select clear storage [factory reset], then flash the rom? Also are you flashing a kernel?

im just flashing regular rom on using clockworkmod. ived done this flashing roms many times and never happen like this before.

Well at this point, it seems like your old backup may be corrupted. Make a new backup, and then try to restore it.

how i do backup when i already delet wipe already so i jsut need to install another rom and do backup and restore it?

culua said:
how i do backup when i already delet wipe already so i jsut need to install another rom and do backup and restore it?
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Correct, make a backup of your current, flash a new rom, then try and restore.

ok i install Calkulin's_EViO_2_ROM_v1.8 agian backup and try restore but it gives me boot image error same thing.

i had a similar issue. my phone wouldnt even boot past the splash screen but i was able to correct that by flashing the stock evo ruu in hboot from my sd card then reflashing a custom rom over that. im not sure if you have to re-root but in my case i had to run unrevoked again. i had to reflash at least 4 times before my issue resolved but havent had any issues since

can you show me the steps and what i need?

1. Go into recovery, select backup, backup current rom
2. Wipe factory/data, cache, dalvik cache under advanced
3. Flash a new rom, let it boot up, go back to recovery, backup that rom
4. Restore previous backup just made

You can install the official RUU upddate from sprint then download the newest HTC SYNC to your computer then plug in the phone thru the usb and run the RUU file as if you are running an app. Remember this will delete everything includidn your root but you can easily re-root with unrevoked. Hope that helps? I had that problem on my incredible and I did this and it fixed it.
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teh roxxorz said:
1. Go into recovery, select backup, backup current rom
2. Wipe factory/data, cache, dalvik cache under advanced
3. Flash a new rom, let it boot up, go back to recovery, backup that rom
4. Restore previous backup just made
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when i try wipe this thing showed up saying E: unknown volume for path [sd-ext]

culua said:
when i try wipe this thing showed up saying E: unknown volume for path [sd-ext]
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That's a separate partition, that is okay, since you don't have it, no ened to worry about it.

teh roxxorz said:
That's a separate partition, that is okay, since you don't have it, no ened to worry about it.
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i did follow you steps and did restore i keep getting the error image.

pena020563 said:
You can install the official RUU upddate from sprint then download the newest HTC SYNC to your computer then plug in the phone thru the usb and run the RUU file as if you are running an app. Remember this will delete everything includidn your root but you can easily re-root with unrevoked. Hope that helps? I had that problem on my incredible and I did this and it fixed it.
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to unroot do i need 2.2 version to unroot?

If you're on hboot 2.10, you'll need a 3.70 ruu.

im sorry please show me how to unroot my phone since i cant boot up im on bootloader.

Use Sprint Lovers ROM the PC36IMG.zip version put on root of sdcard go into bootloader, update, reboot there you go. No re-root needed. I ALWAYS keep this on my sdcard root just in case. Trust me it saved my EVO more than once. You will lose everything but better lost info than lost phone. Try RA Recovery...better than any IMHO

Boot Loop after ROM flash

I'm running amon ra, haus mod rev .a
i've partitioned my sd card with 32 swap, 1024 ext2, then to ext3
I've wipes all data/factory reset, then cache, dalvik cash, and data
I then have tried flashing 2 different ROM's and boot leave me stuck in a boot loop after flashing.
I'm not sure what to troubleshoot next.
Thank you in advance for your gracious help.
Chris

TurbineTester said:
I'm running amon ra, haus mod rev .a
i've partitioned my sd card with 32 swap, 1024 ext2, then to ext3
I've wipes all data/factory reset, then cache, dalvik cash, and data
I then have tried flashing 2 different ROM's and boot leave me stuck in a boot loop after flashing.
I'm not sure what to troubleshoot next.
Thank you in advance for your gracious help.
Chris
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First off,what roms did you try flashing and Then you need to wipe everything,from data/factory reset,cache,data,android_secure,SD ext.,system,dalvik-cache,never the SD card.Now understand that sense 3.5 roms take alot of space,so the boots and such take longer and boot more times.

Diablo67 said:
First off,what roms did you try flashing and Then you need to wipe everything,from data/factory reset,cache,data,android_secure,SD ext.,system,dalvik-cache,never the SD card.Now understand that sense 3.5 roms take alot of space,so the boots and such take longer and boot more times.
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I tried Nitrous and Express.
This is the first time i have seen instructions to wipe SD ext and system.
So here is what i did per your instructions.
I went right down the wipe list in amonra haus mod rev .a and performed the following wipe operations:
Wipe ALL userdata/factory reset
Wipe CACHE
Wipe DALVIK-CACHE
WIPE DATA
Wipe SDCARD:.android-secure
Wipe SYSTEM
Wipe SDEXT
Wipe DATA:battery stats
I did not wipe the following:
Wipe BOOT
Wipe SDCARD
Wipe DATA:rotate settings
I then flashed this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542036
I had heard to give everything lots of time to complete, so i have let my phone sit in the boot loop and reboot about 30 consecutive times. I think that's enough time to do something different. I then took the battery out to stop the boot loop, replaced battery and powered on the phone. It continued to boot loop, and i let it sit again for another 5 or so mintues boot looping away. I pulled the battery again and powered it back on and it continued to boot loop. It reboots every 25 seconds and the only thing i see on the screen is a black background with
"htc EVO 4G"
In white letters across the middle.
I Wiped everything again and this time i also did
Wipe DATA:battery stats
I then partitioned the sdcard again, with
SWAP: 32
ext2:1024
then under the partition menu in amonra, i selected
SD:ext2 to ext3
that process complete
Then i go to the main recovery menu and select
USB-MS toggle
and copy over the ROM from my pc to the sd card. this was the only thing i copied over and the sd card is totally empty accept for the 269MB ROM zip file. (in past attempts i have copied over the ENTIRE contents of the sd card that i backed up)
I then flash the zip and wait for it to complete.
It finishes and then goes into the boot loop again. and i've let it continue to try and do anything other than what i have described above. It does not. I pull the battery and it boot loops again.
Is there something else in the partitioning process that i need to do? Do i need to format the sd card first or after?

What you really need to wipe is: boot, system, data, cache, dalvik, and sd ext [if partitiooned], and you're good to go. Wipe the boot, and then try again.

teh roxxorz said:
What you really need to wipe is: boot, system, data, cache, dalvik, and sd ext [if partitiooned], and you're good to go. Wipe the boot, and then try again.
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Thanks for the help!
edit: I wiped everything you said and nothing else and i still get boot loops. It reboots once every 30 seconds or so and i let it keep rebooting for about 8 minutes. Then i popped the battery and let it try to boot again but i got the same boot loop.
Again, i really do appreciate the help, what should i try next?

After flashing the rom wipe cache and dalvik again before reboot if it loops more than 3 full loops pull battery and reboot to recovery wipe cache and dalvik then under.advanced menu fix permissions(uid mismatches) and the wipe cache and dalvik again and reboot when wiping before flashing wipe each option a few times in a row until they complete the wipe rather quickly that will ensure they are wiped properly. U can also try reflashing your recovery or changing recoveries to amon RA 2.3 or amon RA style supersonic recovery v3.11 depending on what recovery you are using currently
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TurbineTester said:
Thanks for the help!
edit: I wiped everything you said and nothing else and i still get boot loops. It reboots once every 30 seconds or so and i let it keep rebooting for about 8 minutes. Then i popped the battery and let it try to boot again but i got the same boot loop.
Again, i really do appreciate the help, what should i try next?
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Are you sure your downloads aren't corrupt somehow?
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
After flashing the rom wipe cache and dalvik again before reboot
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Thanks for your help!
The ROM flash goes directly to a reboot so i never get the chance to wipe anything after it installs.
if it loops more than 3 full loops pull battery and reboot to recovery wipe cache and dalvik then under.advanced menu fix permissions(uid mismatches) and the wipe cache and dalvik again and reboot
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It boot looped again I followed your instructions and i still get the same boot loops.
when wiping before flashing wipe each option a few times in a row until they complete the wipe rather quickly that will ensure they are wiped properly. U can also try reflashing your recovery or changing recoveries to amon RA 2.3 or amon RA style supersonic recovery v3.11 depending on what recovery you are using currently
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The last time i wiped everything about 4 times in rapid succession and then let the phone sit for about 5 minutes before flashing the ROM. Still got boot loops
For the ROM in question the OD posted a specific version of amon ra recovery, Haus Mod, and said it worked. I downloaded that reovery from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542036
What can i try next?

swagstr said:
Are you sure your downloads aren't corrupt somehow?
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someone else suggested that as well. I did md5 checksums on the file i downloaded and on the file as it sat on the card, and both were identical.
This also happens when i try to flash another newer ROM that requires partitioning the sd card.
What should i try to do next?

TurbineTester said:
someone else suggested that as well. I did md5 checksums on the file i downloaded and on the file as it sat on the card, and both were identical.
This also happens when i try to flash another newer ROM that requires partitioning the sd card.
What should i try to do next?
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Are you flashing Apps2SD with the ROM?
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swagstr said:
Are you flashing Apps2SD with the ROM?
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No I'm not. Do i need to?
And how would i do that?

THe thread for the ROM is was trying to flash doesn't mention anything about flashings apps2SD. Is that something that is required for all the newer ROM that require the partitioned SD card?

HTC EVO 4G reboot
After having had the same re-boot problem and reading the postings here and other forums and having tried all the solutions I still have the problem. I can only conclude that it is hardware related. Some of the HTC EVO 4G phones have this defect and there is nothing to do but get a new phone. This is a good reason not to root the phone until you have run the phone long enough to uncover any defects and have your carrier replace the phone. Living with an unreliable phone has made it personal for me. I won't buy another HTC product. What then, is the best Android/iPhone alternative currently?

lordway said:
After having had the same re-boot problem and reading the postings here and other forums and having tried all the solutions I still have the problem. I can only conclude that it is hardware related. Some of the HTC EVO 4G phones have this defect and there is nothing to do but get a new phone. This is a good reason not to root the phone until you have run the phone long enough to uncover any defects and have your carrier replace the phone. Living with an unreliable phone has made it personal for me. I won't buy another HTC product. What then, is the best Android/iPhone alternative currently?
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All products... And I mean all products will have defects. You got the one in a million. And that sucks, it really does. But you need to realize one defective product does not mean ALL HTC phones are terrible. If I were you, I would talk to Sprint and HTC, it may be a long shot. But if this wasn't your fault, one of them should try to help you fix it.
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lordway said:
After having had the same re-boot problem and reading the postings here and other forums and having tried all the solutions I still have the problem. I can only conclude that it is hardware related. Some of the HTC EVO 4G phones have this defect and there is nothing to do but get a new phone. This is a good reason not to root the phone until you have run the phone long enough to uncover any defects and have your carrier replace the phone. Living with an unreliable phone has made it personal for me. I won't buy another HTC product. What then, is the best Android/iPhone alternative currently?
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Same here. But i have had my evo 3D for nearly a year and have had no issues. I only decided to root because all the bloatware that gets added with every system update was killing me, then i found out u can flash ROMs and such. I have a headache from this bootloop issue as well and i was wondering, after you gain S_OFF, HBOOT returns to *** LOCKED *** and i was wondering if that had to be unlocked before flashing, but i havent heard anyone say to do this.

Flashing a ROM and getting stuck on boot is an issue with the ROM usually, flashing a ROM and getting stuck at a black screen that may or may not reboot is usually kernel base mismatch. Flashing a ROM that just plain reboots usually means something is wrong with system boot or one of the caches. Between different ROMs and or ROM bases (stock, modified stock, custom aosp) you need to perform a full system wipe before flashing new rom. I have a guide for the new evo lte but all the relevant knowledge is the same. And sorry for crashing the thread I'm very tired and I thought I was in the lte forums

[Q] Flashing a ROM help.

I am not new to this, I have experience with rooting htc and samsung devices. I have also searched, and searched, and searched with no luck on this.
However, I am stumped on this phone. I am using ODIN to flash the S/U script, I can gain root, install CWM and install it. I can load a ROM but one of 2 things happen: when I boot it up I get stuck in a boot loop, or it won't even install in the recovery.
I have a few questions / statements:
WHY am I getting stuck in this boot loop?
I am wiping cache/dalvik before I install the new ROM.
I am installing the ROM on the SD card vs the internal memory, is that why?
I got stuck 3 times in the boot loop, and I have had to use ODIN to flash my phone back to stock to start over.
Thanks in advance for the help.

If you have searched, and searched, and searched you would have realized that this is not development related.

for someone who's been around then, you should first off know that this belongs in q&a, not development.
that being said, which recovery are you using? i don't think that's your problem but a little more info would be helpful. also, which rom are you trying to use? when you're wiping, try using this, it'll wipe everything necessary. you only mentioned wiping your cache's so maybe that's it? in any case, flash the file i linked, then your rom. check the md5 on it and make sure it's a match. after you reboot, let your phone sit for 10 minutes and hopefully all will be well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

Mercuri82 said:
I am not new to this, I have experience with rooting htc and samsung devices. I have also searched, and searched, and searched with no luck on this.
However, I am stumped on this phone. I am using ODIN to flash the S/U script, I can gain root, install CWM and install it. I can load a ROM but one of 2 things happen: when I boot it up I get stuck in a boot loop, or it won't even install in the recovery.
I have a few questions / statements:
WHY am I getting stuck in this boot loop?
I am wiping cache/dalvik before I install the new ROM.
I am installing the ROM on the SD card vs the internal memory, is that why?
I got stuck 3 times in the boot loop, and I have had to use ODIN to flash my phone back to stock to start over.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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If you look in the darkside rom thread, and some of the other rom threads, you will see three recommended wipes: darkside super, kernel and darkside cache. I would suggest you do all three.
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Here is a big problem as well. You wipe cache and dalvik AFTER you flash the rom. I usually do it before as well but always after. That's like wiping before you **** and not cleaning up after
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odin version
jabberbox said:
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I used an old version I couldn't get the latest one to work. But it wouldn't even load for me. It been a min sence ive used odin. But my replacement phone is at the house I'll pm you the steps I'll take. Everyone else try to be nice even if you think the question is stupid. Try to show some love
sorry i read wrong. i thought you couldnt gain root. as far as boot loops follow darksides wipe method it work. as far as my replacement phone rooted after first boot. my usb port is broke on my old phone
anyone know how to get back to stock with out it?
sence we are asking crazy ass questions?
dam auto correct

Questions go in the Q&A section

To those of you who helped by answering my question, thank you.
To those of you who told me I posted in the wrong sub section, get over yourself. Especially the guy with 13 posts.
I am wiping cache/dalvik before and after.
I am using CWM from the market, so it should be the newest version.
Ill check out the darkside thread.

You really don't need to wipe dalvik cache after a fresh rom install, unless you didn't delete the data partition (wipe data). And you certainly don't need to do it before and after.
Wiping cache and dalvik cache is really only useful if you make changes to the system but don't want to format the data. This includes flashing themes, and other enhancements, because most of them are replacing system files. On your first boot the dalvik cache gets built. (This is why a lot of devs recommend letting it sit for a bit before using it, it's giving it time to build the cache.)
The reason they tell you to wipe dalvik cache is let's say you're installing a theme, and it replaces systemui.apk and framework-res.apk, located in the system partition. The dalvik cache is already built for these files, so in some cases if you don't wipe the cache you'll boot loop. When you wipe dalvik, you are letting it be rebuilt with the current files.
Also, while we're on the subject, another misconception I see alot of, you don't need to wipe the dalvik cache after you wipe data. Dalvik cache is located on the data partition, it's a folder there. If you wipe the data partition, you've already removed it. (Not to be confused with cache partition, which is used for different purposes. That is it's own partition.)