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i think the diamond section is in a great need of one/one more moderator.
there are posts to be moved and posts to be trashed. i also suggest that besides diamond, diamond rom development and diamond accessories to add a diamond trash where to be able to move all the "does the diamond have a led?" threads.
taking this job and responsibility it will be my way of saying "thank you" to this forum.
shameless self promotion?
I want to be a mod, but i dont have a diamond but im online most of the time or at least an hour a day here in xda-dev. Im just saying if anyone is considering.
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shameless self promotion?
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Im a moderator at the worlds largest Motorola Specific forum... with 7000+ posts. Being a moderator isnt all fun and games, I assure you.
jacknmary said:
Im a moderator at the worlds largest Motorola Specific forum... with 7000+ posts. Being a moderator isnt all fun and games, I assure you.
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now you are talking...!
pity thow, i was looking forward to my 4 figures pay check..
and thank you all for yr support dhaaahh...
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shameless self promotion?
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or plain and simple ...suicidal ??
"does the diamond have a led?" is a good question! must know the signal status! something important to someone better than does the diamond run Iphone apps?
Moderators are only part of the solution.
Every registered user has the ability to report posts/threads to the enitre moderation team. Use the little triangle with the ! in it.
This is alo a good way to make us aware of forums where there is a true need for additional Mods.
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Moderators are only part of the solution.
Every registered user has the ability to report posts/threads to the enitre moderation team. Use the little triangle with the ! in it.
This is alo a good way to make us aware of forums where there is a true need for additional Mods.
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He has a point!
Also, mrvanx, who in my mind is the most active mod in the Diamond forums, does an astounding job clearing the trash.
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Moderators are only part of the solution.
Every registered user has the ability to report posts/threads to the enitre moderation team. Use the little triangle with the ! in it.
This is alo a good way to make us aware of forums where there is a true need for additional Mods.
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Done that soooo much
Regards
Ok I wamt to be a mod .... Hmmmmm why not been a mod on so many sites cant rember which sites I am mod or admin ... LOL .. But I am here most times ....
did anyone replace meschle???
on artemis forum...maybe some others too...
question: does a mod need to know about the topics or just remove the trash
i want be a mod,im 5-6 hours around here,especially when i'm on work,i know what to do,and i'm not a mod on any other site,so i'll have plenty of time for this one...but then again who the hell is going to give it to me
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did anyone replace meschle???
on artemis forum...maybe some others too...
question: does a mod need to know about the topics or just remove the trash
i want be a mod,im 5-6 hours around here,especially when i'm on work,i know what to do,and i'm not a mod on any other site,so i'll have plenty of time for this one...but then again who the hell is going to give it to me
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I am sure if you really stay around and help out by showing mods all the junk needing to be removed they may pay you some attention mate ...
i do my duty as a member...report spams,advertising,fighting,care what i type,don't ask stupid or asked questions,help others solve their problems,so don't worry...and i'd feel weird if i get it...i mean you are here longer,so more active,i think....but look it the other way...if you are here longer,and have over 3500 posts...what's wrong with you...why aren't you noticed...do you report
just asking,not insulting
and as i could see the idea wasn't promoted by a mod...so does anyone ask them about it
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i do my duty as a member...report spams,advertising,fighting,care what i type,don't ask stupid or asked questions,help others solve their problems,so don't worry...and i'd feel weird if i get it...i mean you are here longer,so more active,i think....but look it the other way...if you are here longer,and have over 3500 posts...what's wrong with you...why aren't you noticed...do you report
just asking,not insulting
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Well maybe I am too conflicting and not a conformist. Who knows . All I do is help all , run a ftp , write reviews on all roms i test trying to cover them all and hopefully will aquire some other phones to test more roms in other areas on ....
well when we are speaking about mods...one question...there are forums that don't count posts in off topic threads...should you do it here
i mean lots of guys got their posts by complaining about wifes,husbands,what music they listen to,writing jokes....this isn't fair...first time i went to off topic and posted was yesterday...other 100 posts were kinda help to others...artemis,atom,hermes and magician forums...because i have the devices,and i test everything and give review and help
well the number of posts isn't too important,but is something that is watched when e.g. giving apps and roms to beta testers...they give it to guys with most posts...which they gained in off topic...so there is no real knowledge and developer creativity in them
one more thing...would it be good to make these "thanks" buttons like those guys on pdaviet have...so we don't get lost in thanking,but get to the piont....would it require changing vBulletin
lol...i prob wouldnt come close to qualifying...
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lol...i prob wouldnt come close to qualifying...
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well read my post above....that about "off-topicers"
Ok off topic we have another thief stealing work from xda and selling on ebay ..... I just wrote a note to ebay and ask all that read do the same ..... here is my note .....
I noticed an item is being sold that is not the property of the seller. How I know is I am a member of XDA forum which is where the software was designed. it is Item number: 250269408312. Many memebrs and admin from the site have contacted and sent letters to ebay in the past refring to items such as theese being sold here.
Here is the item # 250269408312
http://cgi.ebay.com/MODDING-KIT-FOR...269408312QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250269408312
I apologize that I don't have that many posts to my credit but I refuse to go around the forums adding nonsense to each one when I can just learn and be kinda quiet from reading and understanding. I do have a few posts and have been a member for over a year now and have also sold my AT&T Tilt successfully on here about a yr ago. Now because of the crooked ppl on here that scam others, I am not allowed to do business in the marketplace because I haven't posted enough??? I'm sorry but that's being very stereotypical and really sucks because many jr members that have been here for quite sometime prolly have more couth than some of the ppl that have been here for a while and just solicit the hell outta xda. I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything, but I just think it's unfair and something more should be done to make it fair. Thanks and I hope that this is taken into consideration because I do have another phone I would like to put up for sale on here and I do have a 100% positive sales history on here.
Thats ultimately going to pay you in future. Believe me this rule is good for all of us. Contribute something good to the forums & you will find it not so difficult. Thats how we can make this place a safer haven for pocket pc users. Good Luck.
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I apologize that I don't have that many posts to my credit but I refuse to go around the forums adding nonsense to each one when I can just learn and be kinda quiet from reading and understanding. I do have a few posts and have been a member for over a year now and have also sold my AT&T Tilt successfully on here about a yr ago. Now because of the crooked ppl on here that scam others, I am not allowed to do business in the marketplace because I haven't posted enough??? I'm sorry but that's being very stereotypical and really sucks because many jr members that have been here for quite sometime prolly have more couth than some of the ppl that have been here for a while and just solicit the hell outta xda. I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything, but I just think it's unfair and something more should be done to make it fair. Thanks and I hope that this is taken into consideration because I do have another phone I would like to put up for sale on here and I do have a 100% positive sales history on here.
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I apologize that I don't have that many posts to my credit but I refuse to go around the forums adding nonsense to each one when I can just learn and be kinda quiet from reading and understanding. I do have a few posts and have been a member for over a year now and have also sold my AT&T Tilt successfully on here about a yr ago. Now because of the crooked ppl on here that scam others, I am not allowed to do business in the marketplace because I haven't posted enough??? I'm sorry but that's being very stereotypical and really sucks because many jr members that have been here for quite sometime prolly have more couth than some of the ppl that have been here for a while and just solicit the hell outta xda. I'm not trying to start any arguments or anything, but I just think it's unfair and something more should be done to make it fair. Thanks and I hope that this is taken into consideration because I do have another phone I would like to put up for sale on here and I do have a 100% positive sales history on here.
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I am glad you were capable of selling your device successfully. You must be an honest person. However, what if you were on the buyer end of the transaction and you did not receive the device? What if you received a big candle in a box opposed to the Tilt?
Personally I feel if you did not record the mailing and the unboxing of the package, emails and private messages, you would be out of luck.
There are many places on the internet to conduct your business other than xda. The Marketplace is for members who use and contribute to the forum.
This is a phone development forum and we have no solid way to know who's legit and who's a scammer who has an account, so we do the best with what we have. And the best way to help protect the users of this site, is to only allow users who have a few contributions and have an account that's been open a while.
Thanks
Dave
I'd like to contribute more, but...
I'd really enjoy contributing more to a forum like this but as I am learning more about these devices, maybe in the future I will be more of a contributor than a student and just searching and trying out the different stuff you guys provide here. Again, I appreciate your responses and all but I also saw a lot of what if's and so on, only meaning one thing. A few bad apples ruined it for the rest of us and that's a shame, but I guess it is in fact reality. Anyways, here's another post towards me being able to do business in the market place lol. How many posts until I am able to sell my phone now? Thanks again.
Its not about certain experiences. Whenever we start a venture we set rules of conduct so we could avoid problems at max. Thats what XDA staff did. Its for all of us. As Redbandana said, imagine being at buyers side you would really not like to have this rule infringed. Moreover even on the side of seller you should avoid dealing with people with low posts, I did that mistake & found myself in barrage of allegations, I sold something to someone & after a week buyer is coming out with allegations rather than proof. I have learnt a lesson from that.
Good Luck contributing to the forum. Cheers.
Hey, you're a senior member in your own right. Just say thanks on the threads you have downloaded from, and provide some feedback...30 posts is nothing.
And true, post count doesn't really say much...I have read much without posting too.
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Hey, you're a senior member in your own right. Just say thanks on the threads you have downloaded from, and provide some feedback...30 posts is nothing.
And true, post count doesn't really say much...I have read much without posting too.
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My eye is on you, boy! Instead of cluttering might as well help out! I'm checking up members with minimal post count not having a very long membership. If I find too much clutter, away with you. Come on, these rules are there to protect the people in this community, don't encourage sleazy ways to be able to post in the market place. It's not that hard to find a way to help out!
Hey ive just joined this site and i must say its tops. And yes i agree that with a site as this you have to be both safe and fair as there are some shady people out there who would love to ruin the good work put into this site.
glad you like it
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Hey ive just joined this site and i must say its tops. And yes i agree that with a site as this you have to be both safe and fair as there are some shady people out there who would love to ruin the good work put into this site.
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Post Count doesn't really tell you much. Quite honestly, I would suggest that if the member is not a know entity among the crowd, just make the sale / purchase via eBay. It's quick, it's simple and it's safer than sending money to somebody that you know absolutely nothing about.
I recently made a purchase from a fellow XDA member with about 60 posts. To be honest I was extremely apprehensive, but I did some digging around and eventualy realised he's a very sweet guy. While that worked for me, it doesn;t necessarily have to work for everyone. If you are in doubt, ask the seller to put it up on eBay and get it from there.
My 2 cents.
Hi I was wondering if there is a One Click Root, because well I'm not smart enough to do step 1-19 or whatever so is there a 1 click root for 2.1-Update 1
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that would be a no
Just gonna throw this out there -- If there was a one click root, wouldn't it be posted in the how to root post?
Also, if there was a one click root why would an incredibly long an complex method be listed at all?
Third, wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask this in the how to root the slide post and not to create a pointless new post and clutter up the development forums?
isnt this the same guy that made the froyo demand thread lol? just ban him
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isnt this the same guy that made the froyo demand thread lol? just ban him
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I don't think the mods need to go THAT far...
Chris, seriously, you need to cease creating threads in this forum. Please use the search functionality to answer your questions as, thus far, they have all been asked before and answered as well.
There is no one-click root on this device nor will there be for the foreseeable future. And there is no Froyo rom out yet -- as soon as one is released it will be posted here or on Android Spin.
Oooooh great now people I don't even know want no part in me, greeeat
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Nobody really wants you banned, we would just like to see the clutter kept down. This phone is growing in popularity, so it would be safe to assume that, if a new and easier method to root had come along, it would have been posted, and moist definitely stickied to the top. They're wanting to see people use a little more common sense is all.
It the processing of rooting your phone is too techincal for someone then why would they want root? Just use the phone as a phone like most people do.
I would like to see people banned who obviously can't follow the rules of the forum. I would like to be able to come here and check to see if anything new and exciting is happening with ACTUAL android development, but more than half the posts(probably more than 2/3) are pointless things that are already answered elsewhere.
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I would like to see people banned who obviously can't follow the rules of the forum. I would like to be able to come here and check to see if anything new and exciting is happening with ACTUAL android development, but more than half the posts(probably more than 2/3) are pointless things that are already answered elsewhere.
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Based on your username, I am pretty sure that the communities in general you would prefer simply don't exist in real life, because as you know, the Internet is full of stupid.
Will someone close and delete this thread and the one called "froyo"
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This thread has rattled my delicate existence so damn much! I can't breath with this lunatic posting questions! How dare they not know everything? I demand extreme punishment for ANYONE feeling their way around the forum! My life was perfect until this idiot starting asking how to do things they don't know the answer to! I refuse to be helpful or constructive! Ban him! Ban his children! Ban anyone who takes more than a post to know the ins and outs of the forum! Burn his house down! Salt the earth! No more wire hangers!
frankly i agree that users like this should at the least get a suspension and a link to the rules and search button. just too funny though that i was just arguing that xda has turned to script kiddie playground where everyone wants an easy solution that is just one-click or one button press and be done, who cares about the weeks spent on the original method lets use the simple one and give thanks to that guy.
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frankly i agree that users like this should at the least get a suspension and a link to the rules and search button. just too funny though that i was just arguing that xda has turned to script kiddie playground where everyone wants an easy solution that is just one-click or one button press and be done, who cares about the weeks spent on the original method lets use the simple one and give thanks to that guy.
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Seriously? It took me less than a few seconds to click the link, read the question, realize that even I knew the answer, and to go back to the development directory. It didn't even occur to me to be annoyed. This guy is obviously interested in the same thing you are and is simply asking questions to get caught up to speed. At one point in time, you knew as much as this guy did. Perhaps you learn better when people berate and threaten you but normal, well adjusted people don't. Try a little patience. It works.
Also, I do agree that a link to the rules and search button is a good way to stem the tide of superfluous threads. I'm just saying people shouldn't take mistakes as acts of aggression.
yes i may have been as dumb/n00bish when i started hacking phones, but google was my best friend first, and he introduced me to xda, now google is more like the third wheel when search here doesn't work. if you cannot search you should not be allowed to post. if you cannot follow directions (steps 1-19) then you shouldn't be here. part of hacking these phones is that you have to be able to use a computer first, if you can't use a computer then you shouldn't be hacking your phone.
this is just as bad as the people that "brick" their phones and don't know how to fix it because they didn't read the sticky. clutter is what this is all about though, most of us hate that we have to sift through page after page of clutter to find the threads that matter to us.
I can get with that but I know that I will err, from time to time. Ergo, I can't expect other people to not err. (believe me, I will ask dumb questions.) Google has proved to be a relatively useless tool when it comes to learning about phone modding, except that it led me here.
When I make a dumb post and someone tells me to "Get a clue, mongoloid ****!", it doesn't make me want to get better at searching the forums, it makes me want to skin their dog.
I'm eager to learn and, since I'm new to the forum, I probably shouldn't be dictating terms, but it seems cruel to automatically ban or suspend someone who's intelligence might not lie in effectively using a search engine. He might be a cool guy with a horse **** who donates to charity.
People like you have the knowledge base. People like me have **** all. Everything I've learned has come from reading the forums and asking stupid questions. Since I am new, things might fly by me in the Q & A section because everyone's using terms that are new to me. I have yet to find a decent glossary of terms and it's not for lack of trying. I didn't even know what a radio was, a month ago. Because some people are helpful, I now know what it is, what it does, and how to put a new one on my phone.
You're one of the cool kids, you know? Be thankful you've got a grip on this and try not to sweat it when people make mistakes. In my line of work, n00bs don't even ask questions. They just see what people like me do and assume they can do it, as well. Now that's irritating.
I have some excellent grass and I'm more than willing to share if it means everyone will take it down a notch.
Oh, and you're absolutely right. It's just that reading through all of the useful and useless **** alike is a daunting task. You can't blame someone for wanting to bypass it all, once in a while, and to maybe add a little color and conversation to all of the relevant data to make the whole experience more worthwhile.
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I have some excellent grass and I'm more than willing to share if it means everyone will take it down a notch.
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i like that idea, after a little time for my grass i understand people wanting to take shortcuts, i have been trying to come up with a better solution for root, even if it was a semi-simple batch or script with pauses and questions and directions as you go along. i love to show people how great their phone can be and some of them probably end up here as the n00b i flame for not reading or following directions
The great thing about XDA is that the Mods are very good at what they do and will not just drop the ban hammer for something as simple as asking a bad question no matter how much any member screams for it. There are checks and balances just like any other system of justice. So no need to argue or defend yourself if you are new here, from what I have seen it's actualy quite difficult to get banned and there is a proccess that must be followed before it will come to that.
I thought I asked this to be closed,....that's it I'm gonna boycot XDA and I'm switching to sricktly android sites,...goodbye and farewell, p.s. could some mod someware delete my account,. And I don't care what any of u retarted freaks that get all hufed and puffed and raged up when somone asks a random question, BYE, FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anyone that has been reading the Dev section or been in the IRC chat has probably seen plenty of flaming going on by some people that think they're Elite compared to everyone else. If you think another chatroom would be nice for users to get help when needed without fear of getting banned, flamed, yelled at, told to STFU, ridiculed or more, then let's set it up.
XDA is about a community of users and devs helping each other to tweak their phones as a hobby. Let's get the friendliness back into these forums and start helping each other out.
There's quite a few options for IRC chat, EFnet, Undernet, Mibbit, Freenode, etc. What's everyone's preference? I'm also voting myself NOT to be an Op, I have limited time available between working 50-60 hours a week, having time for my wife and kids, and doing Android app development on the side.
-Daryel
If I can ever help. PLEASE don't hesitate to ask.
Great post....
Rob
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Excellent idea.
I've also wondered if it might be helpful to have a separate E4GT Q&A forum (similar to what's set up for the international SGS2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1148
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Excellent idea.
I've also wondered if it might be helpful to have a separate E4GT Q&A forum (similar to what's set up for the international SGS2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1148
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Once we have 1,000 threads in General or 10,000 posts in General we'll be able to split that out - XDA rules.
Glad to hear a Q&A forum will be an option in future.
Thanks, jerdog!
not for nothing daryelv, but you keep making it appear as though you were just an innocent victim to an irc tirade. that simply is not the case. you did everything you could to badger and harass a rom dev about something that everyone in the thread clearly understood. before jumping on here to cry to whomever will listen, try taking a moment to look at the situation and figure out why the results were what they were. people here, that were not there at the time, have no idea what happened, only your word. there are two sides to every conflict. making it seem as though you were just randomly assaulted is irresponsible.
Perhaps if everyone searched for their issue, took some initiative, and did some research before posting they would get flamed a lot less.
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not for nothing daryelv, but you keep making it appear as though you were just an innocent victim to an irc tirade. that simply is not the case. you did everything you could to badger and harass a rom dev about something that everyone in the thread clearly understood. before jumping on here to cry to whomever will listen, try taking a moment to look at the situation and figure out why the results were what they were. people here, that were not there at the time, have no idea what happened, only your word. there are two sides to every conflict. making it seem as though you were just randomly assaulted is irresponsible.
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Oh, I know I was banned for asking why an Op didn't update his thread to make things a little more clearer so there would be fewer questions on it. It's when 4 other people jumped into the conversation and started calling me an idiot, a f-ing indian, and more that things went way overboard.
It's not just me though, look through all the chat logs and you will see a repeated pattern of attacks by anyone coming into the chat room to ask about the LOS problem, or wants to ask about Rev B, or has a question about a ROM. It's usually 1 or 2 Ops jumping down the user's throat telling them to "STFU" and then kicking them out.
Anyone voicing their opinion usually gets kicked if it doesn't match the opinions of the Ops. I'm sorry, but the playground has been taken over by a bunch of bullies that sit waiting to tell someone to F-off. That's why we're looking at possibly making a new playground. If you don't like it, don't come. If you want to discuss this more, do it in PM.
-Daryel
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not for nothing daryelv, but you keep making it appear as though you were just an innocent victim to an irc tirade. that simply is not the case. you did everything you could to badger and harass a rom dev about something that everyone in the thread clearly understood. before jumping on here to cry to whomever will listen, try taking a moment to look at the situation and figure out why the results were what they were. people here, that were not there at the time, have no idea what happened, only your word. there are two sides to every conflict. making it seem as though you were just randomly assaulted is irresponsible.
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While I wasn't privy to what you are referring to, have to agree that in general this is a very true statement. I'm not taking sides here at all but in my experience this is a common concern across the boards, regardless of devices.
XDA is a development community but we would be nothing without a user base. We need to lead by example and do our best to be patient with those that are new to the game. We were all there once.
With that said, as a newer user you have a responsibility to research, read, search and read some more before you start asking questions that have been answered over and over again. I'm a patient guy and I love helping people that need help but it honestly does get a bit rough when people don't take the time to at least try to learn before bombarding you with questions about your ROM when the answers are in the OP. If the user would have taken the time to read they would have found what they were looking for. You have to understand that you are one of many people asking the same questions over and over again. So if your met in an unpleasant way, sometimes thats why. Not that it makes it right but maybe just a bit of insight.
We need to all work together and make this community worth participating in.
At the end of the day, all this stuff is about a phone. Trust me, there are much bigger and more important things in life to worry about than a phone......
Well hit 1ooo threads by the end of the week
But there is probably 1oooo post by now
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Perhaps if everyone searched for their issue, took some initiative, and did some research before posting they would get flamed a lot less.
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You make a great point, but it doesn't matter. Someone could ask a question after spending days searching for an answer and still get flamed. These no way to know if someone has taken the time to search, so people that are really trying to learn and have put the time in themselves are getting lumped into the same group as those to lazy to use the search button.
Actually, I was present in irc for the exchange.
I had the same confusion as daryelv with regards to the question he was asking, and it's not because "i cant red gud." In fact, if daryelv hadn't asked the question, then I wouldn't have flashed the rom due to the confusion. So I, for one, benefited from the clarification.
But when he pointed out the source of the confusion, he did get flamed and it did turn racist. It's too bad, because it was all really over an outdated sentence in the rom thread disclaimer, and it was pretty unnecessary.
I get the hard work that devs put into their projects; I wouldn't want to be bothered with dumb questions either. But there was a genuine confusion and a lack of receptiveness in hearing about it.
To be honest, douchebaggery is rampant at most android forums. Take a gender at the CM7 port for the touchpad thread at rootzwiki.
Ill credit it to the expansion of android
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Actually, I was present in irc for the exchange.
I had the same confusion as daryelv with regards to the question he was asking, and it's not because "i cant red gud." In fact, if daryelv hadn't asked the question, then I wouldn't have flashed the rom due to the confusion. So I, for one, benefited from the clarification.
But when he pointed out the source of the confusion, he did get flamed and it did turn racist. It's too bad, because it was all really over an outdated sentence in the rom thread disclaimer, and it was pretty unnecessary.
I get the hard work that devs put into their projects; I wouldn't want to be bothered with dumb questions either. But there was a genuine confusion and a lack of receptiveness in hearing about it.
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I had this very same discussion back in the Epic 4G forums earlier in the year. Something that everyone needs to understand is that the developers are no better than anyone else. Everyone in the community plays a role.
I would argue that the developers should be setting the example of how to conduct one's self and not fall victim to the god complex that has affected some of us. I always throw my friend k0nane under the bus at times like this not because of anything he has done wrong but because of the example he sets. He is easily one of the best developers I've met and yet he treats everyone with respect and affords them the dignity that they deserve.
There will always be a-holes out there but if you lower yourselves to there level than your no better than they are.
As developers, we need to remember that we are no better than anyone else. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect whether they are developing or simply asking an honest question.
Please remember that the Epic Touch 4G is only a phone. Life is way bigger than this and if the biggest thing you have to worry about is flashing a phone than count yourself lucky.
This is way to early in the cycle to have the forums going down the toilet. Take control back and lead by example. You should NOT be afraid to ask a question, especially if you tried to find the answer or simply need clarification.
While I'm far from the best developer I do always try to respond to everyone's questions and PM's. Hit my up on my blog and send me an email. I'll get back to you when I can. Please don't ever be afraid to ask me a question.
Let's keep this community moving forward.
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Oh, I know I was banned for asking why an Op didn't update his thread to make things a little more clearer so there would be fewer questions on it. It's when 4 other people jumped into the conversation and started calling me an idiot, a f-ing indian, and more that things went way overboard.
It's not just me though, look through all the chat logs and you will see a repeated pattern of attacks by anyone coming into the chat room to ask about the LOS problem, or wants to ask about Rev B, or has a question about a ROM. It's usually 1 or 2 Ops jumping down the user's throat telling them to "STFU" and then kicking them out.
Anyone voicing their opinion usually gets kicked if it doesn't match the opinions of the Ops. I'm sorry, but the playground has been taken over by a bunch of bullies that sit waiting to tell someone to F-off. That's why we're looking at possibly making a new playground. If you don't like it, don't come. If you want to discuss this more, do it in PM.
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It's because all of these things have been answered, or there's a thread dedicated directly to it. It takes only a few seconds to search. I'm not a dev and I already find it irritating seeing 5 new threads about the same thing every day. If people would simply search on the forums, or even do a quick Google search, I'm 100% sure they'll find the answer to any questions about any of the topics you just brought up.
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I had this very same discussion back in the Epic 4G forums earlier in the year. Something that everyone needs to understand is that the developers are no better than anyone else. Everyone in the community plays a role.
I would argue that the developers should be setting the example of how to conduct one's self and not fall victim to the god complex that has affected some of us. I always throw my friend k0nane under the bus at times like this not because of anything he has done wrong but because of the example he sets. He is easily one of the best developers I've met and yet he treats everyone with respect and affords them the dignity that they deserve.
There will always be a-holes out there but if you lower yourselves to there level than your no better than they are.
As developers, we need to remember that we are no better than anyone else. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect whether they are developing or simply asking an honest question.
Please remember that the Epic Touch 4G is only a phone. Life is way bigger than this and if the biggest thing you have to worry about is flashing a phone than count yourself lucky.
This is way to early in the cycle to have the forums going down the toilet. Take control back and lead by example. You should NOT be afraid to ask a question, especially if you tried to find the answer or simply need clarification.
While I'm far from the best developer I do always try to respond to everyone's questions and PM's. Hit my up on my blog and send me an email. I'll get back to you when I can. Please don't ever be afraid to ask me a question.
Let's keep this community moving forward.
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Theoretically, no devs aren't better than anyone else. Realistically, yes they are. They are the people who spend hundreds of hours (unpaid) doing something that directly benefits you. I'm sure they get hundreds of the same question every single day that they've answered already. If I were a dev, spending all my time doing something for other people, then get spammed with messages because someone is too lazy to spend a few seconds of their time (when I'm spending hours of my own) searching the forums, I'd get pissed too. Have you ever donated to a dev? Have you ever even said thank you for all of their hard work? Why are the only things devs get repetitive questions and complaints?
Anyone with questions about Odin, flashing, or need help finding an apk you accidentally deleted or just have a general question, PM me anytime. It wasn't very long ago that I had to search to see what root was. Ask anyone with an Epic..I will help out in any way I can so don't hesitate to ask. On a side note, I sure am glad ptfdmedic got an ET4G...pure class and he was the same way on the Epic threads as well. That's why everyone over there respects him so much.
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i dont know what exactly happened in the IRC, buuut like someone posted earlier... there are two sides of the story so im not agreeing with anybody, BUT i will point this out...
the person asking the question was right in the sense of asking a question because s/he was confused... on the other other hand, i understand ppl here repeat a lot of questions that have an open thread on that very same subject and make devs inpatient but turning this into a racist argument was uncalled for in my opinion... what does being indian, even if the person asking the question isnt one, have to do with being confused?
seems silly to me, cuz being confused DOES NOT have anything to do with color or race! just my two cents....
I don't understand why people have to make racial comments. Not just in Daryl's story but there are other instances I saw. Nobody is better than anyone else. We all come for the same reason. If u can't handle don't log on. It would make the thread less crowded if u answered that repetitive question instead of flaming them. If anyone has anyone questions that they want to ask they can pm me as well. I know JC will go out of his way as well as ptfdmedic. There are more as well.
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I don't understand why people have to make racial comments. Not just in Daryl's story but there are other instances I saw. Nobody is better than anyone else. We all come for the same reason. If u can't handle don't log on. It would make the thread less crowded if u answered that repetitive question instead of flaming them. If anyone has anyone questions that they want to ask they can pm me as well. I know JC will go out of his way as well as ptfdmedic. There are more as well.
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No one said there aren't people out there that are helpful, but continuing to ask the same questions that are asked in threads pretty much daily when there's a search function is pretty frustrating.
I do agree that bringing anything racial (or anything offensive) was incredibly immature and wrong. There's absolutely no reason to be rude, but people to need to be more aware of how to get answers other than spamming devs with the same questions.
Just seen Venum post about giving up on keeping up with discussion threads because ppl just refuse to read. One of our great devs seems frustrated....... can't blame him.
I've been playing around with this ROM sh#t for a couple years now. This ''why don't ppl just read'' thing is just always gonna be a problem. Maybe until someone way smarter then my dumbass can create some sort of program that before your able to post a question a Page or Page numbers will pop up? IDK.... Maybe some ppl are lazy and others are just too busy.
IMO starting separate discussion threads just isn't the answer. I find myself bouncing back and forth between both threads to get info on whats going on.
Hell I'm BADLY guilty of not researching. A week after a buddy from work mentioned something about roms I posted a question in the HTC dev thread when I ran into a problem. I got flamed big time. Ya know ''Hows the battery life on this rom?'' and all that.
I had an HTC TBolt before this badass phone. In two days we lost two great devs partly because of frustration with ppl in the threads. The flaming and why don't ppl just read.
I love this hobby. Just something too eff around with when I'm bored. There is ALOT of really cool and helpful peeps in these threads. Great devs too. I've looked into theming and after I found out about all the time it involved, I thought there is no way I could do this. I appreciate the time and work these devs and themers put into giving us there awesome work.
I'm 38 yrs old with a wife and a three yr old son. Don't know if I'm wise enough to give ya'll any advise but I'm going to give it anyway. All this is a cellphone and a hobby....... someone post a question that's been asked and answered a thousand times.... so what. Help if you want, or else move on. Don't take this sh#t too seriously.
This doesn't go out to the devs,contributers, or themers......I wouldn't be able to understand your frustration with some of this stuff in these threads only because of the time you put into this.
Venum,Erick,Mijjah74,BTR,Sfhub etc. etc.
Thanks.......
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Couldn't have said it better myself! Well said man.
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Beautifully said.
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One of the best devs on my old phone just dropped phantom updates and almost never posted. People would mention issues or wants and a future release would often be updated with hose thigs. He would typically just update the op without even bumping the thread.
To all you devs out there hanks for your work but do it for yourself guys life it short and you deserve to have fun and enjoy what you do. I spent the last 6 years in bs jobs and finally got back to doing what I love, IT. I dont have the skills or ability in software but I'm working on my ccna right now. I can at least keep the network running for you guys in the future.
Personally, I enjoy the questions posted in my theme threads. I wouldn't ever make a discussion thread because I find it pointless. If people want to post something positive or constructive criticism in my thread, be my quest. I'm all open for ideas and opinions. I always have my own personal variants anyways.
I can understand people being unappreciative, and that can become frustrating. The devs just gotta realize that there are people like that EVERYWHERE and shouldn't let it bother them.
Amen!
Man these things fall funny sometimes lol I was commenting on the first post but didn't quote it in my response.
I'm not big on the idea of having 2 threads either. I always liked it better when it was one thread in development and everything was done inside that thread. But I also think people should read a little more and also utilize the search tool. If you go over the threads you will see the same questions asked in different ways, over and over again. I actually avoid the Hydra rom thread because of this. The devs definitely show a lot of restraint and still try their best to be helpful. Maybe once the official drops and we quit getting leaks every couple of days, things will get better. I myself definitely appreciate everything that all of the devs do in this community.
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I feel that users who jumped onto the dev thread grabbing 2nd 3rd 4th post etc just for fun of it. It would be so nice if you did not grab those post and leave it to the dev or since you do have it, try to do something proactive and post relevant updates/status/bugs. Simple questions & answers. I remember on the miui.us forum Just_S did an amazing job on tackling this even before he was promoted to moderator.
Every forum on XDA is like this.
Another good reason to search through the threads is that you learn so much other good stuff that comes in handy down the road. If I had just asked a question every time I ran into trouble I wouldn't know half of what I know now. Although half of nothing is still nothing I guess!
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I feel that users who jumped onto the dev thread grabbing 2nd 3rd 4th post etc just for fun of it. It would be so nice if you did not grab those post and leave it to the dev or since you do have it, try to do something proactive and post relevant updates/status/bugs. Simple questions & answers. I remember on the miui.us forum Just_S did an amazing job on tackling this even before he was promoted to moderator.
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I completely agree with this. If you take a 1st page post, do something constructive with it. Have your jokes and whatnot at first, but go back and add some value to it.
That's a great way to help the devs keep info and Q & A updated.
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I hate stupid questions ..
Like "are you going to rape me?"
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iSaint said:
I hate stupid questions ..
Like "are you going to rape me?"
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If i flash ics, will it taste like an ics?
Ascertion said:
If i flash ics, will it taste like an ics?
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the snozberries taste like snozberries
I don't mind people asking repetitive questions unless the answer is on the same page or in the op.
The "give me" generation doesn't seem to understand the ...give/teach a man to fish analogy
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Overstew said:
Personally, I enjoy the questions posted in my theme threads. I wouldn't ever make a discussion thread because I find it pointless. If people want to post something positive or constructive criticism in my thread, be my quest. I'm all open for ideas and opinions. I always have my own personal variants anyways.
I can understand people being unappreciative, and that can become frustrating. The devs just gotta realize that there are people like that EVERYWHERE and shouldn't let it bother them.
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I actually agree with Overstew wholeheartedly here. What was referred to in the op was a comment I made in another thread when asked about the discussion thread I had. I'm sure my frustration showed through in my comments but that doesn't mean I want to quit or even really blast people. I wanted to use the rom thread as an actual problems thread and the discussion thread as "I love this rom" "I hate this rom" etc. So I wouldn't have to read through 30 pages of this and that to find issues.
As Overstew said and I feel the same way I enjoy the questions and I DO appreciate the feedback. Because I ACTUALLY do use the feedback good or bad to make tweaks or changes in regard to users as a whole. In hindsight its obvious the 2 thread roms are probably not a good idea. And I'll probably stop it.
Having said all that I want everyone here on the ET4G forum to know that you all have been great to me and in know way do I plan on leaving or getting so pissed off that I quit you guys. On the contrary, I appreciate all of you, and plan to be on the ET4G for the forseeable future trying to make our great phone even better... in addition please remember that we developers are human too and sometimes we may come across as being snippy or disrespectful. But in actuality we probably are having a bad day or something is not going well. Its not personal and we also try not to take things to personal. I think for those of you who know me I try to be as helpful and polite as I can be and represent XDA in the manner I would like to be treated as. And I was new once, and I haven't forgotten what it felt like to be lost or need help...
Sorry got carried away... so I'll end here by saying we have a great community here and it's because if YOU!!!
VeNuM said:
I actually agree with Overstew wholeheartedly here. What was referred to in the op was a comment I made in another thread when asked about the discussion thread I had. I'm sure my frustration showed through in my comments but that doesn't mean I want to quit or even really blast people. I wanted to use the rom thread as an actual problems thread and the discussion thread as "I love this rom" "I hate this rom" etc. So I wouldn't have to read through 30 pages of this and that to find issues.
As Overstew said and I feel the same way I enjoy the questions and I DO appreciate the feedback. Because I ACTUALLY do use the feedback good or bad to make tweaks or changes in regard to users as a whole. In hindsight its obvious the 2 thread roms are probably not a good idea. And I'll probably stop it.
Having said all that I want everyone here on the ET4G forum to know that you all have been great to me and in know way do I plan on leaving or getting so pissed off that I quit you guys. On the contrary, I appreciate all of you, and plan to be on the ET4G for the forseeable future trying to make our great phone even better... in addition please remember that we developers are human too and sometimes we may come across as being snippy or disrespectful. But in actuality we probably are having a bad day or something is not going well. Its not personal and we also try not to take things to personal. I think for those of you who know me I try to be as helpful and polite as I can be and represent XDA in the manner I would like to be treated as. And I was new once, and I haven't forgotten what it felt like to be lost or need help...
Sorry got carried away... so I'll end here by saying we have a great community here and it's because if YOU!!!
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Venum our community wouldn't be the same without you. Thank you for all you do and I'm glad you have the persistence to put up with us.
I've enjoyed every one of your ROMs that I've run and still hold Anakonda up as one of my very favorites.
You and your team (including that crazy themer dude ) are one of the main reasons I'll be hanging onto my phone for the foreseeable future regardless what phone comes out next.
In short terms, you guys rock!
It does look like the two thread idea is not working as well as others would expect but you must admit its a great idea. Honestly xda is for developers to show off their stuff and for us to leech or not to leech. You would assume that we should be able to follow directions. Lets be honest a developer using his free time to make your product better has asked you too simply only post problems in his thread to make it better for you and easier for him to figure out what needs to be fixed. Ask yourself is that really that hard to do.
A developer takes his time to create a beautiful OP to answer all your questions and lets you know exactly what to do to achieve greatness on your phone. Are the directions really that difficult. At what point to we let common sense jump in and go hey before I post this let me think for a sec.....
Rom posted 5:45 post at 6:00 "Hows battery life" - Seriously
Op says camera does not work post will say "Camera is buggy rom sucks" - Why
Sorry I get it why developers get angry and I understand you want people to move on but really with all that's out there to help just take a sec and use your brain...
Remember its called xda DEVELOPERS
I believe it's just fickle times right now in the e4gt forum. Only dedicated xda users know to read thoroughly before jumping in. More and more people join the Android community and a lot more of those people are migrating to custom development. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but currently you have to 'lift your right leg, whirl your finger counter-clockwise, and sing the National Anthem backwards' just to simply flash anything. While most of us are fairly coordinated, myself included , the rest of the community just want to sit back and enjoy the music. In due time, we will all settle back in again and the user that doesn't read will not have to ask any questions, cause it will go smoothly the first time. Patience is key right now. It will get better.
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Venum our community wouldn't be the same without you. Thank you for all you do and I'm glad you have the persistence to put up with us.
I've enjoyed every one of your ROMs that I've run and still hold Anakonda up as one of my very favorites.
You and your team (including that crazy themer dude ) are one of the main reasons I'll be hanging onto my phone for the foreseeable future regardless what phone comes out next.
In short terms, you guys rock!
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Can't believe you called rounsy a crazy themer dude.. Lol
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