There are several features the CM (or AOKP) based roms have that I would like to have (like navbar addition and customization), but I'd also like to keep many of the stock apps/features like stylus support, airview, and multi-window. I haven't been able to find this. Is anyone out there working on it or have I missed it? Might there be a zip to add much of the stock features to a CM or AOKP rom?
Poke_N_PDA said:
There are several features the CM (or AOKP) based roms have that I would like to have (like navbar addition and customization), but I'd also like to keep many of the stock apps/features like stylus support, airview, and multi-window. I haven't been able to find this. Is anyone out there working on it or have I missed it? Might there be a zip to add much of the stock features to a CM or AOKP rom?
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Doesn't exist and 99.9% sure it never will. There are S pen apps that work on CM/AOKP like Sketchbook and Papyrus.
micahman said:
Doesn't exist and 99.9% sure it never will. There are S pen apps that work on CM/AOKP like Sketchbook and Papyrus.
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What about a zip for installing those apps on a ROM of choice?
Poke_N_PDA said:
What about a zip for installing those apps on a ROM of choice?
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What do you mean? A zip of the apps I mentioned or a zip of the Samsung apps that need the Touchwiz framework to run?
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I think I'm getting all this stuff straight, but sometimes it seems like the more I read the more confused I get.
I know I could just try it out and see, but before I spend 2 hours getting dirty looks from my gf because I have my face buried in the phone, I would like to know I'm on the right track.
ROMs found in the "Original Android Developement" forum:
CM9/10 - these are experimental nightly builds, probably have bugs and probably not the best choice for a daily ROM
ROMs that say they are based on CM9/10/AOKP/MIUI/AOSP - these are more stable ROMs with parts cherry-picked from CM9/10/AOKP sources and are more likely to be suitable for daily use
I can use themes that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed" (quote taken from the description of "Arctic Green" on the play store, I think this ROM will be refreshing, like a cool breeze on my balls) and they will have a theme chooser in settings
I need to flash GApps (If I want them)
I can still run another launcher, like Go or APEX
EDIT ADDITION: I still use stock radio/modem/firmware/AIO zips
ROMs found in the "Android Developement" forum:
With TW or without, Odexed or Deodexed these are basically modified stock (samsung based?) ROMs with no copyright issues which is why there is no need for a seperate GApps zip
I can (usually) only use themes and mods specifically made for the ROM I'm using (I understand that sometimes there are exceptions, lika a blazer theme might work on FreeGS3 and vice-cersa)
I can't use themes or mods that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed"
Do I understand the differences? Any additions/clarifications are definately appreciated.
jmdatcs said:
I think I'm getting all this stuff straight, but sometimes it seems like the more I read the more confused I get.
I know I could just try it out and see, but before I spend 2 hours getting dirty looks from my gf because I have my face buried in the phone, I would like to know I'm on the right track.
ROMs found in the "Original Android Developement" forum:
CM9/10 - these are experimental nightly builds, probably have bugs and probably not the best choice for a daily ROM
ROMs that say they are based on CM9/10/AOKP/MIUI/AOSP - these are more stable ROMs with parts cherry-picked from CM9/10/AOKP sources and are more likely to be suitable for daily use
I can use themes that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed" (quote taken from the description of "Arctic Green" on the play store, I think this ROM will be refreshing, like a cool breeze on my balls) and they will have a theme chooser in settings
I need to flash GApps (If I want them)
I can still run another launcher, like Go or APEX
EDIT ADDITION: I still use stock radio/modem/firmware/AIO zips
ROMs found in the "Android Developement" forum:
With TW or without, Odexed or Deodexed these are basically modified stock (samsung based?) ROMs with no copyright issues which is why there is no need for a seperate GApps zip
I can (usually) only use themes and mods specifically made for the ROM I'm using (I understand that sometimes there are exceptions, lika a blazer theme might work on FreeGS3 and vice-cersa)
I can't use themes or mods that say "a custom ROM like CyanogenMOD needed"
Do I understand the differences? Any additions/clarifications are definately appreciated.
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CM9 and 10 are currently in nightly stage, but that's not permanent. There will be a final, stable version of CM10 when all the bugs are squashed. As for whether they'll be good for your daily ROM, it depends on your needs. Most things in CM10 work fine as it is, but some things may be broken. Whether the broken stuff actually affects you depends on what you need your phone to do.
ROMs based on CM10 are usually not any less buggy. In fact, they will include any CM10 bugs plus whatever creeps in via the additional code, so they will most likely be more buggy than CM10.
Yes, you should be able to use the Play Store themes in Theme Chooser. Yes, you need to flash Gapps. Yes, you can use whichever launcher you like. Yes, you use the stock radio (not sure what you mean by all-in-one zips).
The ROMs in the normal development section are based on the stock OEM ROM or they are ports from other phones/ROMs. They usually don't require Gapps, not because of copyright issues, but because they are based on the stock ROM. The themes may be compatible across Touchwiz ROMs based on the same firmware, but check the theme's thread first. CM and other AOSP themes/mods are NOT compatible with Touchwiz ROMs.
I hope this clears up some things.
EndlessDissent said:
I hope this clears up some things.
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It does, thank you.
I will be changing the OP to reflect your response and any additional info posted here later tonight so, hopefully, this will be a useful thread for other noobs.
Hi, I made a thread earlier and did not get much response (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116569)
I that thread I was looking for a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2, which either had the S Note-app and the "split-screen"function included or had an alternative way to implement the app and function into the rom.
Then I got thinking (!): Is it possible to make a flashable zip that can implement the S-Pen apps and features to a rom?
If it is possible, would it be very hard to do it? I am no developer, but I hope there is a possibility for some one to do this!
I think it would've been quite helpful to many, and possibly easier for developers - just to leave it as an open alternative whether to install the Note-functionalities or not.
Thank you for your attention
- A very happy Note 2-owner
... Or does it already exist?
What I understand so far is that all the Samsung based goodies (SPen, QuickGlance etc) are only available in stock Samsung based ROMs because they need to include the Samsung framework. So all AOKP or CM based ROMs will not have it included.
I recently flashed CM 10.1 on my GS3. I really like the ROM, but I was hoping to be able to use some of the Samsung stock apps as well, like AllShare, GroupPlay, and Kies.
Is there a way that I can re-install these apps without flashing a different ROM? I assumed I could flash some app pack, like I have done with Google apps on some ROMS. I just can't find any links to a Samsung app pack.
Thanks!
kane3262 said:
I recently flashed CM 10.1 on my GS3. I really like the ROM, but I was hoping to be able to use some of the Samsung stock apps as well, like AllShare, GroupPlay, and Kies.
Is there a way that I can re-install these apps without flashing a different ROM? I assumed I could flash some app pack, like I have done with Google apps on some ROMS. I just can't find any links to a Samsung app pack.
Thanks!
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Not possible. The stock Samsung phone runs a framework called TouchWiz (TW). The CM10.1 runs the stock Android framework (modified slightly from AOSP, Android Open Source Project). All of the Samsung Apps are fairly heavily dependent on the TW frameworks. Some apps can be modified to work marginally well on non-TW frameworks, but most of hem will have broken pieces.
There was a thread on here a while ago where someone posted a small guide on how to remove TW dependencies on an App, but I haven't been able to find it again (honestly haven't done a thorough search yet, I'll edit if I can find it). In that thread, they mention that a good number of Samsung Apps are too dependent on TW to run on AOSP roms.
topherk said:
Not possible. The stock Samsung phone runs a framework called TouchWiz (TW). The CM10.1 runs the stock Android framework (modified slightly from AOSP, Android Open Source Project). All of the Samsung Apps are fairly heavily dependent on the TW frameworks. Some apps can be modified to work marginally well on non-TW frameworks, but most of hem will have broken pieces.
There was a thread on here a while ago where someone posted a small guide on how to remove TW dependencies on an App, but I haven't been able to find it again (honestly haven't done a thorough search yet, I'll edit if I can find it). In that thread, they mention that a good number of Samsung Apps are too dependent on TW to run on AOSP roms.
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Bummer, but thanks for the response. Do you have any android 4.2.2 ROMS that you recommend that are as stable as CM and based on TW?
kane3262 said:
Bummer, but thanks for the response. Do you have any android 4.2.2 ROMS that you recommend that are as stable as CM and based on TW?
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There are no 4.2.2 TW roms.
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
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There are no 4.2.2 TW roms.
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
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This. Latest stock (from Samsung) ROM is 4.1.2, build MB1
Questions go in Q&A
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Thanks
is it possible to flash a standalone Functionality for the S-pen and Galaxy S-note app to be installed on a custom rom (resu remix n6.0 )... ive been missing those features but i also love the environment of the custom rom...
please give me the link to the files if any.. thanks!!!
Lhondy004 said:
is it possible to flash a standalone Functionality for the S-pen and Galaxy S-note app to be installed on a custom rom (resu remix n6.0 )... ive been missing those features but i also love the environment of the custom rom...
please give me the link to the files if any.. thanks!!!
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not supported since kitkat, so don't even search.
Devs can't implement it, cuz samsung didn't release source
good morning.
I'd like to know if there's any way to get an official (I mean directly from Google) Lollipop/Marshmallow rom and flash it on an i9195 and, if yes, what's the procedure to do that.
I don't mean custom roms that we can all find even here but just basic ones.
maybe I'm asking something strange/obvious, I bag your pardon but I'm not so expert...
thanx
frac82 said:
good morning.
I'd like to know if there's any way to get an official (I mean directly from Google) Lollipop/Marshmallow rom and flash it on an i9195 and, if yes, what's the procedure to do that.
I don't mean custom roms that we can all find even here but just basic ones.
maybe I'm asking something strange/obvious, I bag your pardon but I'm not so expert...
thanx
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No. Basically you have the "official" touchwiz rom for your region/carrier/device(developed by Samsung and the carrier) and you have custom roms.
Only Nexus devices have vanilla AOSP roms that are more or less stock android. It is possible to have stock AOSP on this device but it is a LOT of work for a developer to get it to work properly. This is why most roms are based on CM because of the existing development and code base
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No. Basically you have the "official" touchwiz rom for your region/carrier/device(developed by Samsung and the carrier) and you have custom roms.
Only Nexus devices have vanilla AOSP roms that are more or less stock android. It is possible to have stock AOSP on this device but it is a LOT of work for a developer to get it to work properly. This is why most roms are based on CM because of the existing development and code base
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thank you very much.
may I ask, due to my lack of experience, what do AOSP & CM mean?
frac82 said:
thank you very much.
may I ask, due to my lack of experience, what do AOSP & CM mean?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project
http://m.androidcentral.com/android-z-what-aosp
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CM is Cyanogenmod
Sent from my Galaxy S4 Mini using XDA Labs
I see there are 2 roms for S4 Mini on the Cyanogenmod website, one is the serrano3gxx and the other is the serranoltexx: what do they mean? how should I find out which to choose?
frac82 said:
I see there are 2 roms for S4 Mini on the Cyanogenmod website, one is the serrano3gxx and the other is the serranoltexx: what do they mean? how should I find out which to choose?
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3gxx is i9190. Ltexx is i9195
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I keep asking down here because I don't want to overload the forum, even though this new question of mine could be in another post: as I flash a new rom I guess I'm getting a "bulk" android, so does anybody know if there's a "good" (i.e. reliable and working!) tool/app/mod/wth that can bring TouchWiz back on the device?
I feel very comfortable with Samsung's TouchWiz and wouldn't like to lose it...
thanx again
frac82 said:
I keep asking down here because I don't want to overload the forum, even though this new question of mine could be in another post: as I flash a new rom I guess I'm getting a "bulk" android, so does anybody know if there's a "good" (i.e. reliable and working!) tool/app/mod/wth that can bring TouchWiz back on the device?
I feel very comfortable with Samsung's TouchWiz and wouldn't like to lose it...
thanx again
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I wish more XDA users would think before they overload or post off-topic in threads.
When you flash a custom rom, you are entirely overwriting the /system partition. This is where the touchwiz rom also needs to reside. To flash a stock touchwiz rom you need a tool called Odin(for windows; Heimdall is similar but works on Linux). You can get Odin from a lot of different places, I found one in here, there are a few versions but this one works well in my experience.
You can search for youtube tutorials or tutorials on XDA for how to use Odin. Search for "stock rom i9195" or "Odin tutorial" or something....
All you need then is the touchwiz rom in .tar.md5 format which you can get from a number of sites including sammobile.com and samsung-updates.com. You will get a .zip file which when unzipped gives you the .tar.md5 file. Be aware that most of these sites require a premium membership for fast downloads. You can still download at slow sppeds but it is really slow. Just choose the latest rom for your region
sorry, maybe I didn't understand well: can I put touchwiz back on a CM custom rom or not?
frac82 said:
sorry, maybe I didn't understand well: can I put touchwiz back on a CM custom rom or not?
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No, Touchwiz needs Samsung proprietary files etc to work.
Edit; but you may be able to get a similar feel by applying a "touchwiz" theme, but it's not real touchwiz
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frac82 said:
sorry, maybe I didn't understand well: can I put touchwiz back on a CM custom rom or not?
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No, it's either one or the other. When you flash a custom rom it completely wipes the /system partition(either manually or automatically within the installer script). Normally you need to wipe your data as well because of incompatibilities.
So, you don't "put touchwiz on" the custom rom or vice versa. You replace the whole operating system. Hope that makes it clearer
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what do you think about these things I found on Google Play?
CM13/12.x Galaxy S7
CM13/12.X GalaxyUI Themes
CM12.x/CM13 Galaxy S6
TouchWiz for CM13
TouchWiz Style CM12 Theme
Touchwhiz Apex/Nova Theme
noppy22 said:
3gxx is i9190. Ltexx is i9195
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now on LineageOS there's also a serranodsdd: is it for dual sim...?!?