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How do you disable sense on my Evo without rooting? I heard some nonsense about force closing sense outer whatever but it doesn't work, just curious.
All answers/suggestions are much appreciated.
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You can't. Only thing you can do is use a different launcher like LauncherPro or ADW.

Them what was all this nonsense about just force closing htc sense?
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Exactly what you said, it's nonsense.

If you don't like Sense, just flash a rom that's AOSP based and there won't be any Sense on it to disable.

It used to be that you could shut down Sense but I think HTC fixed it so you couldn't in one of their updates.
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-turn-sense-evo-4g-and-return-stock-android-home-screens

HTC fixed the bug that allowed you to forcecrash sense ui. It used to stay not running until you reset the phone or relaunched sense (assuming you had a diffrent launcher as default). they fixed that so now it jsut restarts sense either way.
your best bet is to root and flash a AOSP rom or flasha sense rom and use one of several sense removal scripts which will remove the ui and many widgets etc while keeping full functionality

I know all that I was just curious to see how a non rooted, non sense-less experience would be without installing all the hipster launchers and themes from the marketplace.
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SENSE UI or NO SENSE?

I have been using sense ui virt rom.
I loved it but noticed a bit of lost of speed when I flashed cyanogen v7.
Cyanogen was really fast for me compared to virt. rom.
What do u guys prefer?
Idk which one I shud stick too.
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Cyanogen
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xandermpls said:
Cyanogen
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I wud prefer cyanogen too but the video app can't touch focus.
And I use video a lot...
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Well sense is slower due to the fact its "packed". Well I really like sense, it looks really good. Love the wigets the most but I like cyan more because.... umm I just like it better lol.
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Sense widgets aren't as fast, but I do love the Sense clock app, the Sense clock widget, contacts widget and photo gallery widget.
the calendar widget is very laggy compared to Launcher Pro, and the actual dock/launcher bar at the bottom is a very wasteful way to use precious screen real estate. I mean - who really needs such a large button for the phone?
Launcher Pro/ADW Ex and other launchers make it really easy to save screen space by having scrollable launcher/docks...but with Sense it just wastes space.
I am using a GingerVillain ROM with ADW Ex and it works pretty well. But I am missing some of those Sense apps/widgets!

cyanogenmod is faster ,has better battery life,its more up to date and is more customizable.
sense/virtouos has much better apps and widgets such as camera,contacts,keyboard,phone,etc...
it really comes down to personal preferences.
I personally have set them both exactly the way i like and installed all the
apps that i need on them and made a back up so i regulary change between
them whenever i feel like it.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I like Sense better now than Vanilla. I have been using the vanilla for a long time now and then tried switching to sense a week ago and I love it.
I'm not a fan of the sense homescreen though but I love the camera app, phone app, gallery, and the minor quirks you get with it.
The only downside though is that IMO it drains twice as fast as stock.

chobie said:
I can't believe I'm saying this but I like Sense better now than Vanilla. I have been using the vanilla for a long time now and then tried switching to sense a week ago and I love it.
I'm not a fan of the sense homescreen though but I love the camera app, phone app, gallery, and the minor quirks you get with it.
The only downside though is that IMO it drains twice as fast as stock.
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Is there a camera app like sense on the market? I'm missing the touch to focus.
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Sense, no question. The superior camera, music, and contacts apps are a no-brainer, IMO. I don't use the Sense launcher, though - LauncherPro for me. I tried Cm7 and honestly didn't see that big of a difference. I get 12-15hours of moderate use with Virtuous v1.0, which is the best Sense ROM out there.

the orange bandit said:
Sense, no question. The superior camera, music, and contacts apps are a no-brainer, IMO. I don't use the Sense launcher, though - LauncherPro for me. I tried Cm7 and honestly didn't see that big of a difference. I get 12-15hours of moderate use with Virtuous v1.0, which is the best Sense ROM out there.
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What do u think about the speed on virtuous vs cyonagen
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CM is definitely faster, mainly because its built for that, specifically. Sense is built to give a better user experience. Apples and Oranges. With the stock Virtuous kernel, I don't notice a significant speed difference vs CM.
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Without sense. No question.
From my permarooted overclocked HTC G2 with cyanogen 7 nightly via XDA app

Is there any way to get the alarm clock to put a notification in the notification bar on the Sense UI like it does in the Vanilla ROMs? Everytime I hit snooze I wonder if I hit the right button. I'm currently using Virtuous v1.0.0 for the G2/DZ.

I like the sense over the "vanilla" the G2 came with. I've been using virtuous since the day it came out and have loved it. I haven't used CM but I' am comfortable with sense

i currently use MIUI but i loved sense when i used it the only thing i didint like was that you couldnt get it to not autocap , i know it sounds stupid but its really one of my pet pev's , i switch back and forth from now & again but does anyone know how to make it so it doesent autocap on sense virtu rom ?

aad4321 said:
only 1 thing i love about sense. CAMERA!
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thats exactly why i staied with Virtuous Rom.
i would go to CM but the camera app sucks..

[Q]Turn HTC Sense Off[Q]

So I saw a video on YouTube on how to disable HTC Sense and use the default stock launcher, however that device was running 2.1 and so it won't work on my device...
I was just wondering is there anyway to disable sense without installing a separate ROM on 2.2, thanks.
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I think the only way is with a new rom

You can't turn in off, as you can't install Sense on a non-sense rom.
However, you can install a different launcher, i think the gingerbread stock launher is on the market.

Because HTC Sense is built onto the Android interface, shouldn't closing HTC Sense enable the stock launcher? All HTC did was take the 2.1 nexus Rom and write Sense into it, they never removed a thing so surely there is a way?
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jaaystott said:
Because HTC Sense is built onto the Android interface, shouldn't closing HTC Sense enable the stock launcher? All HTC did was take the 2.1 nexus Rom and write Sense into it, they never removed a thing so surely there is a way?
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They removed it ;-)
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andQlimax said:
They removed it ;-)
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Ahh thanks, they should give people a choice between Sense and the Stock Launcher. Fair do's people should just get the Nexus if that's what they are looking for, but the Nexus in the UK was only available on one network, and I for one completely prefer the standard Launcher, HTC Sense 1.0 (Desire Version) is very buggy and laggy.

It surprise me that you know how HTC made Sense and at the same time you don't even know what it is.
Like mentioned by Surfy89, Sense is way more then the htc launcer (rosie). If you want to get rid of Sense you need to flash a alternative rom (AOSP).
If you are talking about using a different launcher then the sense launcher (rosie), you can just install a alternative launcher from the market. So you do have the choice to use whatever launcher you want. Al tough the sense widgets won't work with a alternative launcher.

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It surprise me that you know how HTC made Sense and at the same time you don't even know what it is.
Like mentioned by Surfy89, Sense is way more then the htc launcer (rosie). If you want to get rid of Sense you need to flash a alternative rom (AOSP).
If you are talking about using a different launcher then the sense launcher (rosie), you can just install a alternative launcher from the market. So you do have the choice to use whatever launcher you want. Al tough the sense widgets won't work with a alternative launcher.
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This is the video I saw: YouTube
I got the wrong info, sorry for wasting time

Even the comments under the video are saying it's an old feature.
Either install different launcher from the market (Launcher Pro, Zeam, Go Launcher ... plenty of them) or root and flash a custom AOSP rom. That's the way to go.

Surfy89 said:
Even the comments under the video are saying it's an old feature.
Either install different launcher from the market (Launcher Pro, Zeam, Go Launcher ... plenty of them) or root and flash a custom AOSP rom. That's the way to go.
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Watched the video on my mobile, and didn't see the comments for this reason, would just like to say thankyou for everyone that has corrected my wrongs I now have Oxygen 2.0.

[Q] Using another launcher

Hi,
I was getting a little tired of Sense and have seen other "launchers". I understand the principle behind this but I'm unsure of the finer details!
Does running another launcher completely disable Sense? (Stock, not rooted)
Does Sense + Launcher take up RAM or just the current launcher?
Any disadvantages you can think of (trying Nova)?
Thanks
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dannysmith43 said:
Hi,
I was getting a little tired of Sense and have seen other "launchers". I understand the principle behind this but I'm unsure of the finer details!
Does running another launcher completely disable Sense? (Stock, not rooted)
Does Sense + Launcher take up RAM or just the current launcher?
Any disadvantages you can think of (trying Nova)?
Thanks
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If you're completely stock then while the main Sense interface won't be running alongside the new launcher (Apex/Nova) however much of the Sense framwork will be and it will still be ram intensive.
The best option to running an alternative launcher alongside sense would be to root and use something like ROM cleaner to remove as much of Sense as you can or suits you best and to then select the option within the launcher to have it kept in memory to stop crashes or restarts of the launcher itself.

Using a launcher or no ?

I am typically a big Nova Prime Launcher guy. But trying a launcher on this M8 didn't feel right for some reason. It took away the beauty of the One or something.
I am running a custom ROM with tweaks, as well as Sense 6 Alpha toolbox xposed framework.
But think I'll hold off on a launcher for awhile, and enjoy Sense.
Anyone else ?
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I thought the same thing, was a adw ex user on my evo. Probably won't use a launcher until I get sick of sense when cm variations come into the game with stability.
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Zorachus said:
I am typically a big Nova Prime Launcher guy. But trying a launcher on this M8 didn't feel right for some reason. It took away the beauty of the One or something.
I am running a custom ROM with tweaks, as well as Sense 6 Alpha toolbox xposed framework.
But think I'll hold off on a launcher for awhile, and enjoy Sense.
Anyone else ?
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I don't enjoy really anything about sense. Using the Google now launcher.

How do I install the Google Now Launcher ? When I look it up, says my device is not compatible.
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So far I'm sticking with the stock Sense, but will likely go back to using Apex at some point.

Does motion gestures still work to unlock screen with Google launcher?

Zorachus said:
How do I install the Google Now Launcher ? When I look it up, says my device is not compatible.
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Get it from Android Police...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...patible-with-nexus-and-gpe-devices-right-now/

I completely agree about wanting to use sense...the issues for me are:
-hard to back up and restore the homescreen for sense
-not as many customization and gestures
-doesnt show notifications on custom apps like nova does.
I do think that sense has really upped their game in design

Using apex with a shortcut to blinkfeed. Like it a lot.
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Sense is a lot better than some of the other OEM options, but still the first thing I installed when I got my One was Nova Prime. I've just gotten so used to all of the customisations I can (and want to) do with Nova that the experience without it just feels off.
For starters, I lose my swipe/tap gestures on the homescreen which I've now developed muscle memory for.

memekmek said:
I completely agree about wanting to use sense...the issues for me are:
-hard to back up and restore the homescreen for sense
-not as many customization and gestures
-doesnt show notifications on custom apps like nova does.
I do think that sense has really upped their game in design
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It's not hard to backup and restore the homescreens for sense. I use titanium backup for that and backup BlinkFeed (homescreens). This will backup your homescreens the way you have them.
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I used Nova Prime on my EVO 4G LTE and EVO 3D before that... but am still using Sense 6 on my M8. Although I absolutely love Nova and got really comfortable with all the gestures and other customizations I had set up, I decided I'd run Sense 6 until I get bored of it. Another thing is that I actually like the Sense widgets and was always a bit bummed that I had to download alternatives to use in Nova.

Used the Google experience launcher on note 3 but haven't felt the need with the m8
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using nova launcher since nexus 4 :good:
i dont like vertical scrolling

ferhatugur said:
using nova launcher since nexus 4 :good:
i dont like vertical scrolling
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Yeah same here, if it had horizontal scrolling then I would probably use sense. I'm currently gpe with Google launcher
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