Hello,
I have a HTC Wildfire which the phone company refuses to repair, but the phone is in warranty period. The reason given is that the phone has an unlocked bootloader, but I did not change the phone software. I suspect that they unlocked it and blame on me, because they do not want to repair the phone. The question is: can I find the date when bootloader was unlocked (S-OFF)? If so, the case is solved and I can win the situation, proving that they lie deliberately. Can you help me? Thank you!
rjecan said:
Hello,
I have a HTC Wildfire which the phone company refuses to repair, but the phone is in warranty period. The reason given is that the phone has an unlocked bootloader, but I have not changed phone software. I suspect that they unlocked it and blame me, because they do not want to repair the phone. The question is: can I find the date when bootloader was unlocked (S-OFF)? If so, the case is solved and I can win the situation, proving that they lie deliberately. Can you help me? Thank you!
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Howz that possible ? U didnt try to root phone but howz it possible that it is S-Off ?
I think there is a way to get S-on btw...
AND they wont repair your phone if it is S-Off. U need to S-On it.
I doubt that they S-off your phone.
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NO, I didn't try to root my phone.
It is useless to make it S-ON, because now the phone is it their database as unloked and warranty void.
But I didn't do anything to my phone. Do they try to fool me, or...?
How can I solve this situation, because I fight with this phone company since 11-th of December on this topic?
I want to make a counter-expertise, but can you advise me what to ask?
Thanks.
Odp: [Q] Date of bootloader unlock
Make s-on and flash ruu. Warranty will be yours (;
Sent from JokerDroid 4.3 (;
But can I find the date when the S-ON was changed in S-OFF? This is the main question.
rjecan said:
But can I find the date when the S-ON was changed in S-OFF? This is the main question.
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Woops ... tough one ...
I have no idea..
Maybe ADB shell can be used...
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Odp: [Q] Date of bootloader unlock
No I think so. It is just like jailbreak on apple devices. I had jailbroken ipod touch 4g. Soft broke down and i updated to non jailbroken ios6 and warranty was mine. If you back off s on and flash ruu then ur phone is like new (;
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drewniany92 said:
No I think so. It is just like jailbreak on apple devices. I had jailbroken ipod touch 4g. Soft broke down and i updated to non jailbroken ios6 and warranty was mine. If you back off s on and flash ruu then ur phone is like new (;
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I understand what you are saying, but at the date 17Dec2012, the phone was at the service center and they decided that I lost my warranty. Nobody will belive, if I will send back the phone to them and the same phone is like new, now. That's why I need to know the unlock date of bootloader. If this date is after 17 December, then I can penalize this service center and inform the authorities. I made some complaines, but I really need this date for confirmation. Thnx.
Odp: [Q] Date of bootloader unlock
I'm out of ideas. They told you that ur warraty is out because of date of unlocked bootloader? Anyway if u pull out sim and battery for longer time then phone should set up old data e.g. 01.01.2000 so they can't recognise when bootloader was unlocked or locked. Secondly if u flash ruu and s_on then they can't tell you that you have not warranty because ur phone is like new one so i can't catch the issue (;
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I'm out of ideas. They told you that ur warraty is out because of date of unlocked bootloader? Anyway if u pull out sim and battery for longer time then phone should set up old data e.g. 01.01.2000 so they can't recognise when bootloader was unlocked or locked. Secondly if u flash ruu and s_on then they can't tell you that you have not warranty because ur phone is like new one so i can't catch the issue (;
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They told me that the phone is out off warranty because of S-OFF, like is shown in the photo from my the first comment.
This is the only explanation which I received from the service center: "security is "OFF", so you're losing the warranty.".
I belive that they modified this security, because didn't want to repair my phone, I think they had no wish to fix my phone, because it was right before Christmas and probably were busy with other things. The phone had only one month remaining warranty and that's why I think that the service center lied. Anyway, the only thing that is broken at the phone is the speaker, but in any case, the phone must be repaired with no charge.
So, I'm asking again: can I find the date when the bootloader was unloked: S-ON became S-OFF?
Thanks again.
Odp: [Q] Date of bootloader unlock
No, you can't find (; that's better for you? (;
Sent from JokerDroid 4.3 (;
drewniany92 said:
No, you can't find (; that's better for you? (;
Sent from JokerDroid 4.3 (;
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No...
Is it possible to buy, from a well known company, a brand new phone in sealed packaging, and with the security OFF? But locked in this company's GSM network? And when appear a problem, the service center of this company tell you that the warranty is canceled, because of this S-OFF?
How is this possible? I don't understand. Do I miss something here?
If is S-OFF, that means someone modified the software, right? But not me...then who ????? And when?
rjecan said:
No...
Is it possible to buy, from a well known company, a brand new phone in sealed packaging, and with the security OFF? But locked in this company's GSM network? And when appear a problem, the service center of this company tell you that the warranty is canceled, because of this S-OFF?
How is this possible? I don't understand. Do I miss something here?
If is S-OFF, that means someone modified the software, right? But not me...then who ????? And when?
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It is entirely possible that htc has mucked up and shipped you the device security off. I believe you can check the cid of the device and if it is not 11111111 and if the device is not sim unlocked then it must be htc's mistake. The only methods to atain s-0ff is with a device called a xtc clip, which will write supercid 11111111 and will sim unlock the device. Or with software called revolutionary, but then your hboot would be 6.01.0001/2 (not sure on the last diget) and would say revolutionary at the top in big pink letters. I believe that if you can check you cid and sim unlock status then you can fight your case and get your warranty.
Install an app from the market called cid getter. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tritonsoft.cidgetter When you open it it will spit out quite a lot of information. What you are looking for is ro.build.cid ******** It will consist of 8 digets, both numbers and letters. If it is 11111111 then you may have a issue. Check that and report back pal.
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heavy_metal_man said:
It is entirely possible that htc has mucked up and shipped you the device security off. I believe you can check the cid of the device and if it is not 11111111 and if the device is not sim unlocked then it must be htc's mistake. The only methods to atain s-0ff is with a device called a xtc clip, which will write supercid 11111111 and will sim unlock the device. Or with software called revolutionary, but then your hboot would be 6.01.0001/2 (not sure on the last diget) and would say revolutionary at the top in big pink letters. I believe that if you can check you cid and sim unlock status then you can fight your case and get your warranty.
Install an app from the market called cid getter. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tritonsoft.cidgetter When you open it it will spit out quite a lot of information. What you are looking for is ro.build.cid ******** It will consist of 8 digets, both numbers and letters. If it is 11111111 then you may have a issue. Check that and report back pal.
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Thnx.
Unfortunately, CID Getter is incompatible with my Wildfire.
Odp: [Q] Date of bootloader unlock
So download apk from google. Maybe it runs (;
Sent from JokerDroid 4.3 (;
rjecan said:
Thnx.
Unfortunately, CID Getter is incompatible with my Wildfire.
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OK plan b.
Install htc sync if you have not done already on your windows PC. We only need the drivers it installs.
next go to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14693680 and download the adb fastboot package for windows. Should be the first link in the first post.
Unzip that folder on the root of your hard drive. ( to do so open my computer, double click on your hard drive. Extract the zip file here so the files are in a folder called adb.)
Push start (the windows button), then in the search section type in cmd and push enter. This should open a command prompt.
Type in these codes exactly, ignoring what Is inside the *'s
Cd
Cd C:\adb * c is the letter of the main hard drive you have. Change if needs be. this should be the location of your folder you downloaded and named. Watch out for caps lock.
Fastboot getvar cid * this will output your cid . Write it down! Just so you remember it.*
Job done. Delete the folder when you know you don't need it anymore.
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7
Thnx man,
as soon as I will receive my phone, I will do this. Now, the phone, is at second service center, because I want a second opinion about this S-OFF.
rjecan said:
Thnx man,
as soon as I will receive my phone, I will do this. Now, the phone, is at second service center, because I want a second opinion about this S-OFF.
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No problem man, keep us posted as this is a rare case and may be used to help others if you are successful
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http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Select the Option "All other Supported Models" and follow the instructions.
After this process, your device show "*** UNLOCKED ***" and "SHIP S-ON"
blubbers said:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Select the Option "All other Supported Models" and follow the instructions.
After this process, your device show "*** UNLOCKED ***" and "SHIP S-ON"
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...better wait for a time like revolutionary for a real S-OFF method.
Wonder how people can to this htc unclock without worries about their warranty.
I will wait for Revolutionary personally. More flexibility to flash radios, hboots, etc.
EDIT: And kernels (boot.img)
Confirmed. Unlock works.
SHIP S-OFF RL
I understand that unlocking your device via htcdev.com will irreversibly void your warranty, but is that also the case, if I unlock my device with the stuff from the revolutionary team ?
I never had a device, which could be unlocked that way. My first two android phones were Motorolas and they could always be converted back to stock, for sending them in for repairing or for selling them.
thedoginthewok said:
I understand that unlocking your device via htcdev.com will irreversibly void your warranty, but is that also the case, if I unlock my device with the stuff from the revolutionary team ?
I never had a device, which could be unlocked that way. My first two android phones were Motorolas and they could always be converted back to stock, for sending them in for repairing or for selling them.
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You probably can still revert completely back to stock, the point is that if you use htcdev.com they've got a record of the phone being unlocked (even if you return it to stock again), whereas if you do it yourself then revert it they wouldn't know it had been unlocked in the first place.
That sounds great, thank you.
Thank you !
Like the other I prefer another method...
i will also wait for revolutionary^^
luckily there is temp root so i can delete the crap i dont use
cant wait for it to come so i can flash the first coredroid beta on it^^
Temp Root isnt working...
If we use the htcdev.com or revolutionary HTC will find out that the phone was unlocked!
moom999 said:
If we use the htcdev.com or revolutionary HTC will find out that the phone was unlocked!
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No. Revolutionary is reversible. But htcdev does keep a record forever. However, that doesn't screw you out of every single warranty like many think. Only a small number of software issues, otherwise you still have warranty. We will see how long many of you will wait for revolutionary before you cave in and unlock through htcdev lol. All of us vivid users never got anything other than htcdev unlock. All the devs working on s off told us that HTC made it a hell of a lot harder to crack the newer phones.
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About htcdev unlock. They log your imei and serial number, yes. BUT the only thing you'll get after that is the posibility to unlock your device. Once we get Revolutionary s-off and then the ability to s-on again, how will they know if you really used the possibility to unlock your device? There's a final warning so no evidence you finally used it
Hopefully revolutionary team may be able to use the htc unlock method
Any way I just unlock it now using htcdev
Because I want it to try the temp-root to see if it will work with unlocked but did not work.
As I understood with unlocking using htcdev I still have the warranty for the hardware or I just lost all the warranty?
So just confirming that the htcdev unlock does not let the temp root work?
slapshot30 said:
No. Revolutionary is reversible. But htcdev does keep a record forever. However, that doesn't screw you out of every single warranty like many think. Only a small number of software issues, otherwise you still have warranty. We will see how long many of you will wait for revolutionary before you cave in and unlock through htcdev lol. All of us vivid users never got anything other than htcdev unlock. All the devs working on s off told us that HTC made it a hell of a lot harder to crack the newer phones.
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Being on the rezound I agree. And also the fact that before my rezound I sent back a dinc2 completed rooted because of hardware problems and had no issues.
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robt772000 said:
So just confirming that the htcdev unlock does not let the temp root work?
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Yes, confirmed
moom999 said:
As I understood with unlocking using htcdev I still have the warranty for the hardware or I just lost all the warranty?
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That's right, you still got most of your warranty intact..
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It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty.
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So; in some cases, not all, where the damage is caused by unlocking warranty will not be valid.
if the temp root doesnt work after the htcdev unlock why would you then wanna use it and tell them what you did^^
I've got permaroot working with an unlock by htcdev. Wai for mike to update his thread
Hey!
If I unlock my phone now via htcdev, s-on I guess, am I able to make it s-off later via 'custom' procedure?
Thanks for answer
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Your details will be logged with HTC so pointless. If you can wait then best to wait or if you just want to go ahead you can unlock via HTC dev.
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i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
stiffmast3r said:
i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
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Pretty sure it can still be done (going S-OFF) if you "relock" the device through HTC Dev.
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
stiffmast3r said:
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
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Yeah I think it's possible. Keep in mind that a "relocked" device is not the same thing as "locked" device. HTC will know that your device has been unlocked and the warranty is still less then with a locked device!
yeah, i think the warranty is not a big problem, i got a "good guy" at a store
Yes but if you want to send the device off to HTC for a warranty repair a year down the line that's where the issue will kick in. Hence making sense to wait for S-OFF. And potentially for resale value a locked bootloader sounds better than a relocked bootloader.
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I've heard HTC don't care if its unlocked. My friend told me as long as your issue isn't from overclocking till it fries or something, they don't care and will take it.
Plus with s-off, you can erase all traces on the phone that it was unlocked. Of course HTC probably still knows since you submitted but I've read and my friends told me HTC don't really care as long as you didn't cause it thru software.
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Considering the One X/S as my next device.
I read somewhere that htcdev.com registration (and bootloader unlock) will void your guarantee forever, and based on experience I will need HTC service at some point.
Did I understand it correct, that in order to unlock the bootloader and root, I would need to register at htcdev.com. There no other way?
HoundDK said:
Considering the One X/S as my next device.
I read somewhere that htcdev.com registration (and bootloader unlock) will void your guarantee forever, and based on experience I will need HTC service at some point.
Did I understand it correct, that in order to unlock the bootloader and root, I would need to register at htcdev.com. There no other way?
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From what I have been reading just unlocking your bootloader won't void your warranty. But HTC will be able to tell what software you have installed in your phone according to this post HERE
So it's really up to HTC whether or not they fix your under warranty if you ever decide to use custom ROMs.
shadowboy23 said:
From what I have been reading just unlocking your bootloader won't void your warranty. But HTC will be able to tell what software you have installed in your phone according to this post HERE
So it's really up to HTC whether or not they fix your under warranty if you ever decide to use custom ROMs.
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Hmmm...spooky!
So even if we manage to unlock and root without htcdev.com, HTC cache what roms we use in a hidden folder that cannot be flushed. I'm sure HTC is not going to use such information at my advantage.
If that's really the case, I guess HTC is no longer an option for me?
When I used htcdev to unlock my htc legend I was required to send what is a unique device token to HTC before they send me a unlocker binary file, obviously to me that device token tells HTC exactly which phone has been unlocked and is stored in a data base somewhere, so if you send it for repair, even if you do manage to get your phone back to stock again before, the records will show that the phone has been tampered with.
That's what i believe anyway.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
HoundDK said:
Hmmm...spooky!
So even if we manage to unlock and root without htcdev.com, HTC cache what roms we use in a hidden folder that cannot be flushed. I'm sure HTC is not going to use such information at my advantage.
If that's really the case, I guess HTC is no longer an option for me?
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Well I'm not sure about that. Maybe with S-OFF we can clean the cache, but not really sure.
ranger4740 said:
When I used htcdev to unlock my htc legend I was required to send what is a unique device token to HTC before they send me a unlocker binary file, obviously to me that device token tells HTC exactly which phone has been unlocked and is stored in a data base somewhere, so if you send it for repair, even if you do manage to get your phone back to stock again before, the records will show that the phone has been tampered with.
That's what i believe anyway.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
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Sending the token means you may have unlocked your phone. They don't void warranty for just unlocking your boot loader.
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too many conflicting statements........
yep thts too many for me
Hi everyone i googled a lot about s-off for htc one v, but there is no normal info how to do that... so there is now way to do that or i dont know something?
The one V can't get s-off indeed.
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So without setting up s-off i cant change cid?
lars1216 said:
The one V can't get s-off indeed.
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nutonas said:
So without setting up s-off i cant change cid?
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no u can't
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s-off
nutonas said:
Hi everyone i googled a lot about s-off for htc one v, but there is no normal info how to do that... so there is now way to do that or i dont know something?
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There are only hardware solutions [which don't make a lot of sense for a common end user]. lg(e) tool & riff box both offer methods for s-off on gsm one v. A local repair shop might have one of these tools. I have a riff box, but that doesn't do many ppl very good. No soft-unlock; I agree with previous posters there.
Can you post the pic sir? Cuz i dont hear any of that b4
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danishaznita said:
Can you post the pic sir? Cuz i dont hear any of that b4
sent from my katana
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Sure, as soon as I get cdma support for same.. I carry a Virgin Mobile [as of today].
The sticky part is you have to have a jtag tool.. found out medusa box also supports htc one v. Then, possibly even more sticky, you have to disassemble your phone and use testpoint to disable your emmc. Lots of people have totally screwed their phones not following that hairy step.. The rest is quite easy should you have and read your respective jtag support literature.
Rob
I don't think people will be willing to dissemble their phones for s-off
What i mean to say that its too risky
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aashukmehta said:
I don't think people will be willing to dissemble their phones for s-off
What i mean to say that its too risky
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I totally agree with you. S-OFF really is not needed unless you're a true developer. And by that I mean, unless you are wanting to look at and tweak your bootloader and/or radio.. why does one even need S-OFF? The HTC unlock should work just fine for 95% or more of the people out there. Those that dare to need more... they'll just have to pay to play [or take that risk].
Regards,
Rob
insink71 said:
I totally agree with you. S-OFF really is not needed unless you're a true developer. And by that I mean, unless you are wanting to look at and tweak your bootloader and/or radio.. why does one even need S-OFF? The HTC unlock should work just fine for 95% or more of the people out there. Those that dare to need more... they'll just have to pay to play [or take that risk].
Regards,
Rob
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CDMA ver should got S-OFF , GSM yet no S-Off yet.
S-OFF is super useful for who want to do custom rom/kernel without breaking the warranty because you can unlock BL without via HTC unlock and lock BL again at anytime when you want to send it back to HTC service centre.
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CDMA ver should got S-OFF , GSM yet no S-Off yet.
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1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
S-OFF is super useful for who want to do custom rom/kernel without breaking the warranty because you can unlock BL without via HTC unlock and lock BL again at anytime when you want to send it back to HTC service centre.
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2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
insink71 said:
1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
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There have been some One Vs that shipped with S-OFF
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MameTozhio said:
There have been some One Vs that shipped with S-OFF
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Companies, including HTC, do make a limited number of S-off devices [typically for qualcomm developers or the carrier development teams]. These have occasionally been shipped out in error to regular customers. It is like finding a golden easter egg though, not typical. In those rare cases HTC might take phone back [to save face since ultimately was a shipping error] but typically s-off will void a warranty. Truthfully though, if you have a s-off device, one would rarely need to utilize warranty. 99% of issues out there can be fixed with software [patches, replacing binaries, kernels, etc.] Only time warranty is needed is when hardware fails; which, hasn't happened to me ever i the many devices I've owned.
Rob
Only hardware faults I've seen with this particular model [HTC One V] are bad/fried emmc chips and/or bad resistor from emmc. These typically come from people that have tried to defeat the emmc write protection [purposefully or unwittingly]. Unfortunately, this is why with these devices test point must be used [which shorts the emmc disabling the write protection] or indeed hardware damage could occur to your device [if your determined to try but attempt to write w/o disabling the write protection]. Do I believe many will actually partially disassemble their phone for s-off? Nope. Will I still work on and publish [safe] method if I can? Yep. Hardware failures on this device are denoted by dropping into qhsusb_dload mode [w/o invoking it properly through test point].
insink71 said:
1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
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I don't know GSM got S-OFF now. Can you give me the link?
However, I don't fully agree S-OFF voids warranty as HTC said the only way to loss warranty is via HTC Lock Website and they can have an official record about you agree to loss the warranty. There are little devices ship with S-OFF. HTC doesn't willing to repair them?
One more stuff about S-OFF. You can flash the rom with kernel together in recovery mode and don't need to flash the kernel via fastboot separately.
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TheEndHK said:
I don't know GSM got S-OFF now. Can you give me the link?
However, I don't fully agree S-OFF voids warranty as HTC said the only way to loss warranty is via HTC Lock Website and they can have an official record about you agree to loss the warranty. There are little devices ship with S-OFF. HTC doesn't willing to repair them?
One more stuff about S-OFF. You can flash the rom with kernel together in recovery mode and don't need to flash the kernel via fastboot separately.
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S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
Ok links are to hardware tools [which cost money] but can s-off gsm devices:
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-t320e-htc-primo-unbrick-unlock-supercid-imei-repair-supported/
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/htc.html
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f664/medusa-box-v1-7-5-htc-repair-via-usb-added-1639081/
There may be others..
Regards
Rob
insink71 said:
S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
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Thanks for your links.
But with S-OFF, you can remove the tampered status in bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357624
I read it here from HTC One. You can even change it back to S-ON before you send it to HTC service center.
tampered flag not the same as checksum test, but yep [once s-off] should be able to remove tampered flag.
Some S-off solutions can S-on; Some cannot. For hope in the matter, always run a full dump [preferably on a clean, factory reset device] before you s-off.
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insink71 said:
tampered flag not the same as checksum test, but yep [once s-off] should be able to remove tampered flag. checksums called image crc in bootloader.
Some S-off solutions can S-on; Some cannot. For hope in the matter, always run a full dump [preferably on a clean, factory reset device] before you s-off.
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so what's the benefits of s-off?
and what''s the difference from s-on and s-off devices?
i just begin to learn all these things
jasperlin1996 said:
so what's the benefits of s-off?
and what''s the difference from s-on and s-off devices?
i just begin to learn all these things
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google is your friend mate.....
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insink71 said:
S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
Ok links are to hardware tools [which cost money] but can s-off gsm devices:
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-t320e-htc-primo-unbrick-unlock-supercid-imei-repair-supported/
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/htc.html
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f664/medusa-box-v1-7-5-htc-repair-via-usb-added-1639081/
There may be others..
Regards
Rob
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I was told that s-off can easily brick the phone.
Ok so I have installed arhd and want to revert back to stock for warranty service
I made a Nandroid backup before unlocking the bootloader
Please guide me through the process
specs:-
cid-11111111
hboot-1.36
s-off
U can't get completely to stock. You have to install your main version RUU after locking the bootloader, but u will face the problem where the bootloader says 'relocked' instead of 'locked'
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So will I be able to get warranty service or not
I don't think so dude.
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Can anyone else confirm this fact?
You can easily return to stock and run any ruu because you have s-off
with s-off you can also LOCK the bootloader instead of relocked, so lock it and send it for warranty
Depends on what is the problem with Your HOX. If they need to replace Your motherboard then You gonna pay for it. HTC official policy... I'm from Poland and I sent it for repair 3 times. Everytime they needed to replace motherboard. And they did it two times even with relocked bootloader (don't know why, maybe they always repair phones with broken autorotation? common issue with hox. coz it was the case with first and second repair). 3rd time I got problem with screen backlight and bang - ~$300 . I tried contacting with HTC Poland and HTC Taiwan but same answer. If bootloader was unlocked and motherboard needs to be replaced You need to pay for it. Any other issue with any other part and they fix it for free. So hard to tell really. You may be lucky What is Your issue with HOX? You may also consider burning down the motherboard... They will not be able to tell if You had bootloader unlocked... But it's kinda cheating... I just read somewhere that some dude did it and they replaced his motherboard for free
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You can easily return to stock and run any ruu because you have s-off
with s-off you can also LOCK the bootloader instead of relocked, so lock it and send it for warranty
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These are good news, am thinking of selling my phone and getting s-off HOX.
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Stefan0vic said:
You can easily return to stock and run any ruu because you have s-off
with s-off you can also LOCK the bootloader instead of relocked, so lock it and send it for warranty
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Can you explain how to lock bootloader
I have a nandroid backup can I use that for restoring my phone
Please explain
Thanks for everyone that helped really appreciate all replies
And I just realized that putting "urgent" in my title of the thread does not mean that my question is more important than others
Any help will be appreciated
An s-off hox also can show relocked only.