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I've only been and gone and rooted it!

Phew that was nerve wrecking
But successful
Thanks to the wonderful guides here and supporting posts by the community, it was pretty painless. Now its just a matter of finding which ROM I'd like to stick with for the time being. I just couldn't wait any longer to play with Froyo, and I like the roughness of the N1 version but for now I've gone back to the Mocado Sense ROM until all the issues have really been ironed out with the custom Froyo ROMs. I have both images on the SD and it takes about 2 mins from boot to switch now, I'm impressed that I can back up and recover so easily.
I'm soo impressed actually, you guys are fantastic.
I guess really this is just an ass licking thread in the end

that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.

Nice one. It's a great feeling when you root successfully first time isn't it
You get a great sense of satisfaction.
If you like 2.1 roms over froyo at the minute, you should try one of pays roms in the dev section. They are a few pages down now as he hasn't kept the thread updated because he had to send his phone to HTC for repair (not rom related) lol.
His roms are very good, and a lot of people including me really like them. I'm on a froyo rom now though because I can't stop changing. lol.

al89nut said:
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
@socktug, okay I'll look at those.. I do like the inclusion of Wavesecure in the Modaco ROM but now its rooted I'm sure I'll look around before I settle. No point getting too cosy cos in a month or two an official sense Froyo will come and I'll have to flash that anyway.
(edit) I mean a custom version of the Sense Froyo of course

al89nut said:
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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to each his own
seriously though, we are indeed fortunate to have such a talented and generous membership at XDA. things will get even better once Desire is sold in the US and more even people get on board.

I think ass licking would leave more of a bitter taste in your mouth and i imagine the texture would be something similar to Nutella.
+1 for the idea of ass kissing as opposed to ass licking (and no, i am not gay if that is what you were thinking!)
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This thread is in danger of falling into brokeback mountain territory

Welcome to the rooted world
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socktug said:
This thread is in danger of falling into brokeback mountain territory
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ROFL... indeed

MasDroid said:
ROFL... indeed
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You mean ROLF!
oursoul said:
Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
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Yet you still haven't edited your first post At least we know what your preference is

Actually i did mean ROFL (rolling on floor laughing)...
Just a coincidence that Socktug is called Rolf!
Now that is what i call funny!
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Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!

Yeah, you do sacrifice a lot of useful functionality moving away from Sense to a froyo rom, including the way it mingles all of your contacts together. It's a personal preference really but I prefer the mail app, HTC browser and photos app in Sense to Android 2.2, the mail app is actually far superior as you can use contacts from any of your accounts and the corporate address book when you cmopose a new message.
Not wanting to start rom wars here but I think Pays roms are the best - they include a lot of nice features like automatic ad blocking, I've tried pretty much everything on this board and I always end up going back.
As for rooting, it is necessary when HTC have given us such a pathetic amount of phone storage, I ran out after a week and only had about 20 apps installed. Rooting was necessary so that I could install apps to the sd card and use my phone without having to constantly do housekeeping in my market downloads.

Hey carrige, I just rooted 2 days ago, and I can say that I am seeing a lot of difference in speed and quality, compared to the stock ROM. Yeah I too miss the HTC contacts widget, since it used to sync every contact detail together, and liked a lot how the images on facebook were ported to my phone contacts. However I found something similiar to that, it only ports the photos though, and not the info.
As regards to ROMS, I only tried DeFrost and Mondaco's and I can tell you they are pretty amazing!
carrige said:
Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Well, I'm still on the fence. My phone runs very smooth, does almost everything I need, the only reason to root would be aps2sd but I think I can wait for the official Froyo+Sense update that should come any day now [sarcasm].
Of course, I haven't tried any of the custom ROMs, so, what am I missing? What would be the 3 most amazing things that you could say about the current rom you're using?

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Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Not at all, I dont do off topic.
3 things:
1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
5- You can stick 5 up your arse.
Since rooting my phone has felt complete (even tho I've flashed it about 100 times in the past 23 hours), stable.. more unique, solid, cool, better.
I remember when I had my PSP and I butchered my only battery to make a pandora and got the m33 custom firmware on it. This is the same thing.
It makes the boundries clearer about who the device belongs to.. I'll give you a clue... it's MINE.
"Those who dare Rodney, Those who dare...!"

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1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
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Hmmm ... so let me summarize:
[BACKGROUD: I had a G1 and flashed it countless times, I know how the game goes]
1. why would you need that on a rock solid device? Backups areonly needed if you feel unsecure, if you flash it over and over again, so you can go back if something goes wrong.
2. OK, I get it, but this one is soooo small, it's not worth counting. Not worth the risk (don't tell me it's risk free because it NEVER is)
3. so you don't even get the benefits of Froyo but you (maybe) lose Sense. I for one love Sense.
4. OK, that is ONE. (I already stated thiswould bea reason).
So, bottom line, you are saying CUSTOMIZATION. Hmmm, not worth the risk IMHO.
P.S. I'm not trying to play smart, I'm doing this for the sake of arguments / counterarguments.
P.P.S. If you feel we are going off-topic here please say and I will start a new thread.

There's no such things as offtopic on an oursoul thread okay.
1- True say, cos obviously if you've rooted you're gonna try some crazy **** sometimes, its just good to know that with the Recovery patched you will never completely **** it up. And the backup just means that when you've made that perfect setup you can freeze it in case you have to replace your handset or unroot for any reason. Means you can Test a new ROM and if you dont like you can recover in minutes to your happyROM.
2- Come on mate, its ****ing cool.. I hate the Sense lockscreen, its bollocks.. I like the rotary one personally .. round and round hehe. This point was more than that, its about pure customisation.
4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
3- I said test Froyo, I'm not interested in keeping it cos I love sense too.. I might have kept Froyo if the N1 camera app wasn't so shoddy. I already miss my c905 camera quality. I love how on the MoDaCo rom you can move the homescreens about in 'helicopter' view
PS dont worry about it bruv, you're safe with me..
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu

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4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
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Missed that one, very true, I agree with you, I hate a lot of those apps too.
oursoul said:
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. Still, I don't feel like going through the "pain" if my phone performs SO well. The G1 was a completely different story, it needed to be rooted to make it a true Android phone. When I got my Desire I was (and still am!) blown away by the speed and all those things it could do right out of the box. I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old, but at some point I'm wondering if I'm actually using the phone or just trying to make it do things.
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Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu
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Oh NO, it's not! Mine is better for a lot of reasons! Want one? BECAUSE IT'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
BACK ON TOPIC (beware, I changed the topic now):
You still haven't convinced me. Anybody else would like to take a shot here?!
P.S. I'm surprised Market Enabler didn't show up as a reason to root. Maybe you are all Brits or whatever but for a lot of us Market only offers free stuff. But I decided it's not a reason to root since I can find everything I need on the "dark side". Sorry developers, I know it's not your fault but it's not mine either. If Google enables payed apps for Romania I will start buying again. Until then I'm a pirate!

I've got to admit, as someone that constantly flashed roms to my HTC Magic, I was very happy on the stock desire rom aside from the running out of storage issue. HTC did a good job. If the phone had enough storage I would still be running the stock rom now. I don't see any real reason to root other than the lack of phone storage. Froyo roms still don't work properly anyway - for me they ALL have an echo on the line. I would stay with stock if you are happy, don't crumble under the peer pressure!!

to unroot or stay rooted, that is the question.

....going borderline shakespere there, sorry about that.
for those users, if you are on a custom GB rom, like Buisiness Gingersense, Pure Speed, Shift, etc, you can do all the mumbo jumbo to go back to stock to grab the 2.3.4 update that you want. but, consider this, you will lose root, and not be able to obtain it for quite a while, remind me if i am wrong, but didn't it take a few months to get root when the dinc orginally got froyo back in september of 2010? (thank god for unrevoked)
but, again, losing root would mean some apps won't work right. and mainly, no CWM, and no custom roms right of the bat. yes i have the stock rom backed up here on my pc. but, as far as waiting, i'd do it. if you ask me i'd rather wait.
now, those that are not rooted, and have everything stock still, by all means, grab it up.

wanting and needing are totally different,if you don't absolutely have to have it then wait. the difference between what's new around the corner and what we have now isn't much different anyway. new radio isn't guaranteed to make data/signal better or worse. custom sense kernels doesn't help much for aosp with exception of glitchy 720p record/playback. this isn't highly needed by everyone. best to wait anyway since newer doesn't always mean better. might backfire if you take the plunge of impatience

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wanting and needing are totally different,if you don't absolutely have to have it then wait. the difference between what's new around the corner and what we have now isn't much different anyway. new radio isn't guaranteed to make data/signal better or worse. custom sense kernels doesn't help much for aosp with exception of glitchy 720p record/playback. this isn't highly needed by everyone. best to wait anyway since newer doesn't always mean better. might backfire if you take the plunge of impatience
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i guess some people got ahold of the 07.07 radio...no real discernable difference, it's just an update.

Why unroot? Once it's posted on here give it 3 hours and a completed stock rooted rom will be released.

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i would bet money that once the exe is up someone will rip it apart and may a rom and from there wildstang and joelz will have a rom out in hours and not months.
remember when the first leak was out? it was less then a day we had a working rom. then a week later we had a working rom with 3.0 sense.

I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!

DustinBooyah said:
I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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ROFL! i just want the damn radio. i wounder how long before the RUU exe shows up.

synisterwolf said:
i would bet money that once the exe is up someone will rip it apart and may a rom and from there wildstang and joelz will have a rom out in hours and not months.
remember when the first leak was out? it was less then a day we had a working rom. then a week later we had a working rom with 3.0 sense.
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I remember that RMK had a flashable zip of the leak up in about an hour or two. Granted, it wasn't "tweaked" at all, it was just made available so you could keep root while trying the leak out.
Since everyone is anxious about it, especially since it went from "no the Inc won't get it" to "it's coming out in stages this week", I'll bet within a day we'll have a rooted stock ROM available to flash, and tweaked ROM's within a few days.
Just my $0.02.

Im staying rooted, waiting for the update to be flashable.
Sent from my Business Gingersense incredible. U haz permission to b jelly nao.

I may be wrong but if you have s-off you should be able to flash a custom recovery and there for be able to root the new ota or at least restore an old already rooted nandroid. At least thats what the unrevoked/forever site makes it sound like. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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I may be wrong but if you have s-off you should be able to flash a custom recovery and there for be able to root the new ota or at least restore an old already rooted nandroid. At least thats what the unrevoked/forever site makes it sound like. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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Basically football or somebody else is going to post a PB31IMG. zip. Somebody is gonna download it strip out everything but the boot.img, system and data folders. Add root and busybox and reupload. It's a little more complicated then that, but that's about it.
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No way i would give up root.
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DustinBooyah said:
I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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So did Unrevoked work with the OTA?

jstrom23 said:
So did Unrevoked work with the OTA?
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It's a completely different ROM, and most importantly, kernel. It's not going to work.

I unrooted my Incredible, never used any roms anyway.

watt9493 said:
Im staying rooted, waiting for the update to be flashable.
Sent from my Business Gingersense incredible. U haz permission to b jelly nao.
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already is flashable as of a few minutes ago

POQbum said:
already is flashable as of a few minutes ago
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And here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219407
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after the last update, I'm unconvinced that this update will be better than the Synergy ROM. I'd rather stay rooted, wait for flashable custom kernels to come out, and if the radio is any good, snag that, too. the last one was a nightmare with all that bloatware; can't imagine what sort of crap they added this time.

The rooted version has already been released here on XDA. I for one will never unroot my phone. The OVO Community Rom RC5 is AMAZING.

pippenz said:
The rooted version has already been released here on XDA. I for one will never unroot my phone. The OVO Community Rom RC5 is AMAZING.
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I will never unroot either.. I'm running OVO RC4.. LOVING IT... Sence 3.0 is great. I'm guessing you are testing RC5? Its not public yet right? Looking forward to it.
Do you know if I will have to do a full wipe again before i upgrade to 5? Trying to decide if I should set up my phone the way i like it, or wait on 5...

Question for the Droid Incredible XDA Community

Hello everyone, I'd like to start this out by saying that I hope to not get flamed with this post. I do not own an Incredible (however I have played with MANY roms over the past two years with my various Android Phones). That being said, I've got a very... Well known client (public figure) who uses an Incredible. He has had *nothing* but trouble with it, especially since after the Gingerbread update (low storage space issues, needed to restore phone more than once, etc etc).
He is talking about getting an iPhone, but I would like him to get the "pure" Android experience before he makes a definitive decision. Essentially, he is tired of all the bugs and wants something that "just works".
My question to you guys:
Without me having to go through countless pages upon pages of posts, what in your guys' opinion is the best "stock" (whether that be CM7 or AOSP ROM) for the Incredible? What bugs (there area always bugs in ROMS right?) should I expect from the ROM and what should I notify him of in advance?
At this point in time, i'd say anything is better than stock gingerbread with HTC bloat that screws everything up constantly.
I just really need to make sure I put a solid ROM on his phone so that A) He will be happy and B) I will not be discredited on the air to hundreds of thousands of listeners.
Again, i'm not looking to be flamed for "not searching". I run a business, I do not have time to go through every single AOSP/CM thread to see every minute bug that is reported. Also, since this is not my phone, and he is a very busy person, I will have limited time to get this "right". I am just merely looking for your recommendations and experiences.
Thank you in advance everyone!

CM7 if you want a full pure android experience. If you want Sense, try one of the stock Sense roms that gets updated (Not mine. My inc died ) like Stock+ or McSense. Best of luck with your client! Don't let him switch to an iphone lol
Very few bugs (If any) on these. I can provide links if needed

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CM7 if you want a full pure android experience. If you want Sense, try one of the stock Sense roms that gets updated (Not mine. My inc died ) like Stock+ or McSense. Best of luck with your client! Don't let him switch to an iphone lol
Very few bugs (If any) on these. I can provide links if needed
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Excellent thank you. I was leaning towards getting away from Sense entirely (AOSP or CM7) because he is absolutely sick of the way HTC has treated his stock incredible. All of these bugs are simply inexcusable. I know that the versions of Sense here on XDA most likely do not get the low storage issue... But i'd rather get him on pure Google. Them upgrade him to ICS when that hits

CM7.1, definitely. Mine's stable as a rock. It's a lot more stable than ANYTHING I've messed with on it, including stock.
I'd recommend putting CM7.1 on it until the Galaxy Nexus comes out, then convince the client that they need it.

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CM7.1, definitely. Mine's stable as a rock. It's a lot more stable than ANYTHING I've messed with on it, including stock.
I'd recommend putting CM7.1 on it until the Galaxy Nexus comes out, then convince the client that they need it.
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Oh believe me, i've already planted the Nexus seeds! Any major bugs with CM7.1?
I know previously on CM7 builds (not for the Incredible) i've had broken wifi at times, broken GPS, etc, etc. As long as this is "rock" solid like you say... I'd say that is the most viable option! Thanks man!

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Oh believe me, i've already planted the Nexus seeds! Any major bugs with CM7.1?
I know previously on CM7 builds (not for the Incredible) i've had broken wifi at times, broken GPS, etc, etc. As long as this is "rock" solid like you say... I'd say that is the most viable option! Thanks man!
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No bugs that I know of. I only ran it for a couple of days though. The nightlies tend to fix any bugs, but may have bugs of their own.

Bugless Beast is an aosp alternative to CM. It still runs on nightlys but the latest build is like 99% working and is rock solid. Stock GB.
Wtf is an iPhone.
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Bugless Beast is the best AOSP option you can get. So smooth and fast. I haven't had any issues so far.
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Just wondering also, is there a solid MIUI build for the incredible? Just curious because I know that really impresses people as well lol!

CM7.1 is my vote. McSense if going the sense route.
I've not tried bugless beast yet simply because I love the ring lockscreen that the CM team cooked up. I also love the theme chooser that CM7 has.
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EmperorX said:
Just wondering also, is there a solid MIUI build for the incredible? Just curious because I know that really impresses people as well lol!
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Yeah. I personally don't like MIUI, but if you check their website, they have the latest build up. The last one I tried had a few minor bugs, but not bad. I'm sure they have been fixed though.

Cm 7.1. With the flashable adrenaline mod and incredikernel. Its been rock solid for me for almost a month.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

Root that thing and throw CM7 on it. They wont complain anymore. Ive been doing CM7 since it came out for the DInc and it has only gotten better. 7.1 is incredibly (pun intended) stable. And runs very smoothly. I think its probably more stable than stock. My DInc used to restart on its own all the time. I have not had that happen once with CM7. Battery life is great. With heavy texting, email, facebook, reddit usage. I get thru a day and usually have some juice left over. It can get to around 18% but still would last overnight if i forgot to plug it in, and still be at 18% in the morning!
Mine flies with CM7 and hasn't had any problems. My sister also has a DInc. She has been experiencing the low memory problem, I finally talked her into letting me root it and Rom it. CM7 is the way to go for a flawless experience. It is a little tidius to flash CWM and downgrade using ADB. It actually really inst necessary to downgrade and get s-off. I was able to install CWM on her phone and flash CM7 and gapps without a hitch. You have to use unrevoked 3.22 exe and do a custom recovery in administrator mode. (there is a write up somewhere here.)
after CWM was installed I flashed CM7. and it works great with s-on. The only time i think there would be a problem is if you wanted to flash an unsigned rom. but CM7 is signed so no biggy.
I will be sad to let my DInc go when I upgrade to either a galaxy nexus or a rezound in the next few months.
Good luck.

Use Bugless Beast if you want him to stay on Android, otherwise there is a highly underrated ROM called IncDeck 1.3... It's probably on the second page of the forums but that is the single best pure google ROM. The reason no one posts anything to the forum is because they have no issues to speak of lol.
Edit: I typed this from my droid 2... but I got it on friday lol. I'm not just talking out of my ass.
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Excellent thank you for the suggestions everyone! I have to say, the Incredible userbase is much more friendly and forthcoming than many others I have encountered here on XDA (coughSamsungDevicescough)!
As of right now, I am leaning towards Bugless Beast, as I really want him to be impressed by the speed. Also, since he wants things to "just work" I think the less options (like those extras presented in CM7) the better.
Should I worry about the rooting process for the Incredible with the Gingerbread update? Do I need to downgrade firmware, etc?
Also, I know right now he is using stock Verizon VVM... Is that an issue to get working on this?... I may try to convert him to Google Voice if that is the case.
Thanks again, you guys rock!

I would possibly suggest using the ext4 no limit mod as you had said he was getting the storage full message.
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pete_kowalski83 said:
I would possibly suggest using the ext4 no limit mod as you had said he was getting the storage full message.
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I was hoping that would be resolved by getting off of stock gingerbread alone? I've met numerous people with this issue... Even though their phones have HUGE amounts of free space, the Incredible reports that their storage is full. This results in FC's getting no emails etc. I've tied it to the HTC mail app, the Peep app, and a few other programs. If you clear cache/data it is a temp fix but then it will occur again at some point, much to their frustration.

EmperorX said:
Excellent thank you for the suggestions everyone! I have to say, the Incredible userbase is much more friendly and forthcoming than many others I have encountered here on XDA (coughSamsungDevicescough)!
As of right now, I am leaning towards Bugless Beast, as I really want him to be impressed by the speed. Also, since he wants things to "just work" I think the less options (like those extras presented in CM7) the better.
Should I worry about the rooting process for the Incredible with the Gingerbread update? Do I need to downgrade firmware, etc?
Also, I know right now he is using stock Verizon VVM... Is that an issue to get working on this?... I may try to convert him to Google Voice if that is the case.
Thanks again, you guys rock!
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People have had success downgrading to 2.2 with THIS.
As for VVM, I'm not quite sure if it works on AOSP so it may be better to put him onto Google Voice. It's free and it is much easier to use.
pete_kowalski83 said:
I would possibly suggest using the ext4 no limit mod as you had said he was getting the storage full message.
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The full storage error is what many Inc users that updated to the GB 2.3.4 update faced. That particular update screwed up a lot of peoples phones but after rooting and flashing a different ROM, he should be fine.

One final issue i've had... This client has always saved his contacts as "phone contacts" rather than "google contacts". Does anyone know of an app that will batch upload them to Google?

EmperorX said:
One final issue i've had... This client has always saved his contacts as "phone contacts" rather than "google contacts". Does anyone know of an app that will batch upload them to Google?
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Use Backup Assistant and backup all their contacts then login to MyVerizon and export contacts to a csv file. From there you can import then into your Google account.
I made that mistake when first rooting my phone. Never again...lol

To Root or Not To Root?

Coming from an Evo 4G that I had rooted right after I got it... ran a ton of different ROMs and that phone seemed like it needed to be rooted to really make it run right... I'm finding that I really don't see any benefit to rooting this phone (other than free tether)...
So, am I missing something? What are these improvements in these custom ROMs that are making it worth it to root... this thing is so freakin awesome already I just can't think of anything else I need...

There are tons of perks in the custom ROMs: themes, TSM-mod, cm7, MIUI, faster lighter ROMs, debloated, Rouge recovery to name a few. If you flashed roms on the EVO im sure its just a matter of time until you dive into the ET4g dev section.

ignore this

phatmanxxl said:
There are tons of perks in the custom ROMs: themes, TSM-mod, cm7, MIUI, faster lighter ROMs, debloated, Rouge recovery to name a few. If you flashed roms on the EVO im sure its just a matter of time until you dive into the ET4g dev section.
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What's "TSM-mod" and "Rogue recovery".. Or more precisely, what are the advantages of them?
I've looked around at the Dev section but the phone's been out long enough that it's hard to find threads that actually explain what all this is.. it's just assumed that I already know...
I know, I know.. use the search fxn... you dont have to flame me... I'll find out on my own

blakjak220 said:
Yeah, I'm not saying I can deny the "flash bug" for long... but I'm so impressed with the phone as is that I'm content for now I guess...
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If your impressed now, just wait till you start flashin'.
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Reason to flash=MIUI.
Calkulin's rom is great for a boost of performance on a stock rom as well...

Honestly, if you're happy with the phone as is, then maybe you should just leave it as it is until something comes along that makes you change your mind. Having a stock/unrooted phone is not a sin

blakjak220 said:
What's "TSM-mod" and "Rogue recovery".. Or more precisely, what are the advantages of them?
I've looked around at the Dev section but the phone's been out long enough that it's hard to find threads that actually explain what all this is.. it's just assumed that I already know...
I know, I know.. use the search fxn... you dont have to flame me... I'll find out on my own
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Tsm is like Cyanogen settings from the cm7 roms, but compatible with Samsung ROMs, Rogue recovery is clockwork recovery but redone, the options are grouped better, better theme, a lot less pain in the ass to use.
Oh yea check out qbking77's videos, he does a lot of how to's and reviews of ET4g ROMs, great stuff.

cds0699 said:
Honestly, if you're happy with the phone as is, then maybe you should just leave it as it is until something comes along that makes you change your mind. Having a stock/unrooted phone is not a sin
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I completely agree. That's what I do with my phones. It also gives you time to get really comfortable with the new device as I know quite a few things change going from an htc phone to a samsung device. I generally will use the phone as is out of the box until I find something I can't bear, don't like or if there is actually a defect of some sort in the software. At which point, I check xda and see if there are fixes for said problems. If there are fixes and you're comfortable, root it and give it a shot. I'd suggest Calkulin's as it kinda seems like the go to rom for just about everyone on here, then maybe venture into the abyss. I'd suggest staying away from modems and other mods until you understand them and are comfortable.

I agree as well, nothing wrong rocking a completely stock phone. There are times I run a stock (debloated) rom just for a change.

I'm running a rooted with no fancy rom phone here. The only reason I haven't flashed a rom yet is because my first phone had GPS problems and this one doesn't. And plus, my evo with 3.0 rom has its own issues too. So I just don't want to jinx it. My wife's phone has the GPS problem. Thinking about bringing it in to the store for a replacement.
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Root? Root... ROOT!!!!!!

phatmanxxl said:
Tsm is like Cyanogen settings from the cm7 roms, but compatible with Samsung ROMs, Rogue recovery is clockwork recovery but redone, the options are grouped better, better theme, a lot less pain in the ass to use.
Oh yea check out qbking77's videos, he does a lot of how to's and reviews of ET4g ROMs, great stuff.
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Thanks man, for the info and the referral. I'm comfortable enough with rooting and tech that it's just a matter of learning the different names for things, as it all goes by something different over here.
And thanks to everyone else for their input... I think I'm just gonna run it stock until I find something I can't live with.. Because right now, I love this thing.

Ok, scratch that.. I rooted yesterday.. just couldn't help myself, I need to be able to tweak the notifications toggles...

Like a drug, its good stuff you probably don't like nascar anyways either or kies or the allinone messenger battery sucker or the.... well ya dig..?
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Mynaga said:
Like a drug, its good stuff you probably don't like nascar anyways either or kies or the allinone messenger battery sucker or the.... well ya dig..?
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Dig.........

blakjak220 said:
Coming from an Evo 4G that I had rooted right after I got it... ran a ton of different ROMs and that phone seemed like it needed to be rooted to really make it run right... I'm finding that I really don't see any benefit to rooting this phone (other than free tether)...
So, am I missing something? What are these improvements in these custom ROMs that are making it worth it to root... this thing is so freakin awesome already I just can't think of anything else I need...
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To be perfectly honest with you the way to go is stock rooted. None of the TW roms are really offering anything so much more exciting than stock TW. But definitely root it. On the practical side you can use the Wireless Tether app (if needed) block ads (a big thing for me) and access all files through Root Explorer. IMO those are reasons enough to root. In a nutshell, if you root your stock ROM you aren't really altering it and it is super easy to revert to non-rooted so there really is no downside as far as i can tell.

I debated the same thing... to root or not to root? I rooted and i am glad i did!

I held off for a while too but miui and the xplode roms are awesome. Just something different.
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Well I rooted and flashed Calk's ROM... within 5 minutes it was having freezes and what not so I said screw it and restored my nandroid of stock... I'll be stayin here for a while.
Edit: not saying anything bad about Calk's work... It prolly would've been resolved with a wipe and clean install and some tweaking but I'm just wanting fast stability right now and stock TW is super fast and my battery life is awesome

[Q] old man old phone old roms? help Please!

ok Hi everyone!
no i do not have ADO (Attention deficit order) or any other brain dissorder! just old slow and feeble!
i got the HTC EVO 4G my two year contract with the sprint WOGS is up about two months ago my phone died and best buy got me a brand new one!
then i see that new samsung galaxy note 2 and ooooowww
So my old brain kicks in and says mod your evo
ok at this point
so i rooted mt evo 4g with HTCDEV and revolutionary some how i ended up installing revolutionary but the phone still works
but yes i did not do a backup of the original system on the phone!!
well i am now thinking since i am rooted and s-off abot a custom ROM??
ok this is were the old man comes in
i only wish do do this once and most of you all here it seems do this every day as a type of hobby
what i would like to find in a custom ROM is everthing to work as the phone works now but hopefully even better
and to get rid of all this BS poopwear sprint has loaded into this phone
a ROM that looks great and new and as stable as stock?? with maybe some new apps to play with
So the Question is? Is there a ROM out here filled with the above???
Question 2
when you root a phone and s-off then do a custom rom, does sprint know what you have done or can they find out
and if so can they mess with you or bug you??
no i do not see men in black everywere!
just have seen post about watermarks and sprint knows! just was hoping to get the truth here!

I will start with your second question. The only way Sprint will know is if you have to take it on for service. So no worries there.
As far as a ROM goes there are many solid, stable, fully working roms. You will be limited to the older gingerbread roms. All the newer ones lack drivers for front camera and Wimax (4g). Now to find what you want will take searching on your part. There are a few different versions of sense which is HTC's launcher and then you have AOSP which looks completely different. When I get on a computer I will give you some links to check out.
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HTC EVO 4G yup the old phone
i was looking at this rom
DigitalKarma v8: Reincarnation http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1561680
and this one
[ROM] The Classic v0.1.0 - finale http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414
or this one
Unnoficial XenonHD [Supersonic] [UPDATED 02-11-13] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116627
but i am not a geek sorry if that word sounds snoby to me it is more of a praise too all of you that can do this stuff then some dummy like me comes along and says duuu what? or how do you do that again?? it is just for some people that have never grown up around technology like you youngins have what is that old saying grandma use to say??? oh ya Johnny come lately!!
if you know what rom out here that looks good and everything works like 4g connection and wifi and is stable
i will very much say THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!!!

From one old guy to another...
MerlinTT said:
ok Hi everyone!
no i do not have ADO (Attention deficit order) or any other brain dissorder! just old slow and feeble!
i got the HTC EVO 4G my two year contract with the sprint WOGS is up about two months ago my phone died and best buy got me a brand new one!
then i see that new samsung galaxy note 2 and ooooowww
So my old brain kicks in and says mod your evo
ok at this point
so i rooted mt evo 4g with HTCDEV and revolutionary some how i ended up installing revolutionary but the phone still works
but yes i did not do a backup of the original system on the phone!!
well i am now thinking since i am rooted and s-off abot a custom ROM??
ok this is were the old man comes in
i only wish do do this once and most of you all here it seems do this every day as a type of hobby
what i would like to find in a custom ROM is everthing to work as the phone works now but hopefully even better
and to get rid of all this BS poopwear sprint has loaded into this phone
a ROM that looks great and new and as stable as stock?? with maybe some new apps to play with
So the Question is? Is there a ROM out here filled with the above???
Question 2
when you root a phone and s-off then do a custom rom, does sprint know what you have done or can they find out
and if so can they mess with you or bug you??
no i do not see men in black everywere!
just have seen post about watermarks and sprint knows! just was hoping to get the truth here!
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Since you have been using the EVO for a few years and are used the the Sense UI I would recommed
starting out with The Classic. A very solid ROM by tommytomatoe. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414

So many out there, all great, most of devs remove all the crap when we buid the roms guess it comes down to what you like.
You like stock, or themes,
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The first two you listed will work 100% but the last one is a jelly bean ROM that has no front camera or 4G. Plus other minor issues. The classic would be like your stock ROM only way better.
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HTC EVO 4G yup the old phone
Sorry if i sound like a dumb ass
i have gone to alot of web sites trying to dig all the info in can from the words i can make sence from!
i am not here to beat no one up or down!! i had asked help from one site when i went to root my phone
and was kind of kick for being a noob and asking a question the guy thought everyone should have known!
that is why i am here! i am sure you all have looked at other web sites about all this rooting around and roms.
what you all do in customizing the cell phones is ??? really i do not have a better word GREAT!! (each generation has there own words and phrases,and sometimes we have to teach the old people like are parents the new stuff that has come out)
i would say this i am like all of you! but way older i think and definitely not any way near as smart as you all are here
as to stock or theme? i take it theme is the way the new rom will look??
i will say this as the way for the last 2 years looking at my phone well im borrrred with it
if it had a big pair of breast attached to it well i would not be here "SORRY LADIES!!!"
so yes new looking and way better to play with! STOCK ? no i had that
stable is my concerne with a new rom as once i do the flash (flahing the rom) to the phone i do not want to have to worry about this software to fix this bug or that bug then digging up this file to get this or that to work!
does this make any sence to you all??
ok an old man would think (sorry if im wrong here!!) if one was to install a new rom on ????phone all that would be needed
would be one file! do the vol. and power button go to revolutionary install zip file from sd card wait and poof your done!!
ya ya what joint is that old fart smoking!!!
AGAIN THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP HERE

Classic.
Maybe Synergy if you don't care about CIQ.
I ran AlterROM for awhile: it might be in your comfort zone and it provides a ton of installation options if you want to explore a little.
But really just start with Classic. The "updater" app included with Classic may need some kind of fix , read the last few pages of that thread to get current.
Have fun!
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MerlinTT said:
Sorry if i sound like a dumb ass
i have gone to alot of web sites trying to dig all the info in can from the words i can make sence from!
i am not here to beat no one up or down!! i had asked help from one site when i went to root my phone
and was kind of kick for being a noob and asking a question the guy thought everyone should have known!
that is why i am here! i am sure you all have looked at other web sites about all this rooting around and roms.
what you all do in customizing the cell phones is ??? really i do not have a better word GREAT!! (each generation has there own words and phrases,and sometimes we have to teach the old people like are parents the new stuff that has come out)
i would say this i am like all of you! but way older i think and definitely not any way near as smart as you all are here
as to stock or theme? i take it theme is the way the new rom will look??
i will say this as the way for the last 2 years looking at my phone well im borrrred with it
if it had a big pair of breast attached to it well i would not be here "SORRY LADIES!!!"
so yes new looking and way better to play with! STOCK ? no i had that
stable is my concerne with a new rom as once i do the flash (flahing the rom) to the phone i do not want to have to worry about this software to fix this bug or that bug then digging up this file to get this or that to work!
does this make any sence to you all??
ok an old man would think (sorry if im wrong here!!) if one was to install a new rom on ????phone all that would be needed
would be one file! do the vol. and power button go to revolutionary install zip file from sd card wait and poof your done!!
ya ya what joint is that old fart smoking!!!
AGAIN THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP HERE
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Can give mine a spin if u like.
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Definitely go with classic. It was my first rom and I fell in love with it. Great battery life, has themes, and is very smooth.
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HTC EVO 4G yup the old phone
Ok i will jump in here and do the ROM] The Classic v0.1.0 - finale
and i will download the ]TN_Elousions_3_Rooted_latest_OTA_5.07.651.6_supers onic_Deoxed_2/19/1
and try that one later
so my dumb old man question is now
1 do the vol down and power
since i have revolutionary installed i go to recovery then the revolutionary screen pops up and from that i chose install zip file from sd card
and that is it?? or do i do the same for both files this one v0.1.0p3 Supermagic Finale and this one classic.cx entry
from this web page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414
or is this more over my head

The Tn elousions 3 is stock I have not done anything with that yet other then deoxing it.
My elousions 2.2.2 is the trixed out one. Just to let you no.
Don't forget to wipe dalvic and dalvic cache
Better yet wipe everything except SD card.
Make a nandroid backup before you do anthing.
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HTC EVO 4G yup the old phone
well i did the classic rom
the first time i flashed it and it all loaded up anything to do with the internet would not work
thought maybe i got a bad download from this crappy satellite hughes.net system we are on
so i redownloaded it again and wee hee it all works!!!
just wished the bottom screen buttons had some kind of lay out like the evo 4g did
phone, apps, etc.
i will run this and see what happens i hope no bugs pop up
ya and you are right there is alot of do-hickies added to this!
i just hope i do not mess something up now
if he had put in the butttons for the phone, apps, etc
from my stand point this rom would be the greatist
but it is my first rom i have flashed so who knows maybe there is one that is better out there!!!
I would like too THANK YOU ALL!!! Very much for your GREAT WORK HERE!! and your help with me on this venture!!!
THANKS ALLOT!!
Bill

Haha actually I agree with you, I was never a fan of what Tommy called the "Ghost Rosie". Ironically it's one of the things that really distinguishes the ROM and it took a lot of work for him to make it do that.
Anyway I'm pretty sure you can "turn off" that feature and bring back a always-visible phone button, either by a tweak (changing a setting that Tommy provided in some control panel somewhere) or via a mod (some flashable zip that modifies that Rosie).
Or you can always download a custom launcher from the market.
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One vote for Mazwoz or Evervolv Jelly been 4.2.1 Roms
MerlinTT said:
ok Hi everyone!
no i do not have ADO (Attention deficit order) or any other brain dissorder! just old slow and feeble!
i got the HTC EVO 4G my two year contract with the sprint WOGS is up about two months ago my phone died and best buy got me a brand new one!
then i see that new samsung galaxy note 2 and ooooowww
So my old brain kicks in and says mod your evo
ok at this point
so i rooted mt evo 4g with HTCDEV and revolutionary some how i ended up installing revolutionary but the phone still works
but yes i did not do a backup of the original system on the phone!!
well i am now thinking since i am rooted and s-off abot a custom ROM??
ok this is were the old man comes in
i only wish do do this once and most of you all here it seems do this every day as a type of hobby
what i would like to find in a custom ROM is everthing to work as the phone works now but hopefully even better
and to get rid of all this BS poopwear sprint has loaded into this phone
a ROM that looks great and new and as stable as stock?? with maybe some new apps to play with
So the Question is? Is there a ROM out here filled with the above???
Question 2
when you root a phone and s-off then do a custom rom, does sprint know what you have done or can they find out
and if so can they mess with you or bug you??
no i do not see men in black everywere!
just have seen post about watermarks and sprint knows! just was hoping to get the truth here!
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The jelly bean roms are not filled with bloat ware, they come with the apps needed for a root user to do the right things. Plus they are pretty stable at this point, just minor things that don't work, except it would be nice if we could get 4G Wimax back on the latest roms. Front facing camera just needs a driver as well as Wimax, but I do not miss those things as I am connected to wifi mostly.