Galaxy Nexus (virtual) SDCARD as fast as internal memory?? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I know Galaxy Nexus doesn't have any sdcard. But its internal memory does have a mnt/sdcard which the phone treats as SDCARD.
Say you have an app, you move that app on SDCARD, for a phone with real SDCARD, the app will work slow from SDCARD....
(For e.g. just after boot, apps on SDCARD take a while to load, apps on internal memory load fast...)
But say you move that same app to (virtual) SDCARD on your Galaxy Nexus , so
Q1. Will that app work slow.???
Q2. Will moving an app with widget to (virtual) SDCARD (which is actually internal.memory), disable Widgets?
Q3. If there's no SDCARD, then why there should be any option like move to SDCARD then. Why Google wants me to do that same old thing of managing apps,every time going to.manage app settings.
Why not give less strain to my brain. Don't you feel like that???
Q4. On my current android, moving any app to SDCARD increases free space on my internal memory. Does same happens when you move an app to SDCARD on your Galaxy Nexus???

Sdcard on your gn is just a directory. You wouldn't be moving it off your internal flash so, no to all of the above. Actually it wouldn't go anywhere. Your app that will let you "move to SD card" only sees it as an option because of the legacy symbolic link. In other words, Google has set up links to make software that is looking for SD cards function properly.

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Sony SOLA - file storage

Missing the discussion on the phone SONY Sola ..
I have a 32GB phone memory card.
Example - install the game Real Racing 2 or Navigon navigation. Maps are downloaded via wifi, but stored in the internal phone memory (8Gb), but I need to make these files stored on a memory card (32GB), because the phone memory (8Gb) is already full.
It is a 100% solution to this problem?
Sorry for my English (Google translate)
Whats with APP2SD? I dont know if your device can do it but search for it or ask a SOLA User
App2SD memory card does not only displays the phone's internal memory.
Have you tried moving them from settings?
Settings /applications /manage applications click game in the list and click move to SD card
Yes it is a solution to free phone memory. Resource heavy games are quite large. Also you could move other media files in phone memory to the sdcard,just check using file manager if any songs/videos are in the phone. Also,apps such as whatsapp keep messaging history and are better off in your sdcard.
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Can not move
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Can not move
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That is very strange. What class is your memory card? Should be written on it or the packaging it came with.
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The card is Kingston 32GB Class 10. That is not the problem. This problem has even tablet SONY.
Files from the games (Gameloft) stores only in the internal memory.
try moving de game data from the internal memory to sd
Actually, that is exactly the problem, your phone (and most Sony for that matter) support upto class 4. Your SD Card is too powerful.
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I have the same problem. The internal storage is divided into the internal storage and "sdcard". The real sdcard is namned ext_card and you can't really save app data there, because the phone (and the apps) think that the "sdcard" folder is your real SD. Stupid decision of Sony...
Ziroo said:
I have the same problem. The internal storage is divided into the internal storage and "sdcard". The real sdcard is namned ext_card and you can't really save app data there, because the phone (and the apps) think that the "sdcard" folder is your real SD. Stupid decision of Sony...
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Ah.
Now that's just messed up.
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It is indeed messed up
I have been looking around a bit, and found some suggestions involving changing the vlob.fstab file to mount the external_sd as "sdcard" and visa versa. Effectively swapping the microsd card and the internal storage. However, this seems like a rather dirty trick, and effectively makes the internal storage less usefull.
An ideal solution would be the have a firmware that uses the entire 8gb internal memory as "phone memory", and that mounts the external sd card as "sdcard".
I have no idea if this is poosible however...
Cheerz
Dracorius
Editing vlob.fstab to solve this problem even Galaxy W.
It's the Sola Sony root? Root "oneclick" ?
Dracorius said:
It is indeed messed up
I have been looking around a bit, and found some suggestions involving changing the vlob.fstab file to mount the external_sd as "sdcard" and visa versa. Effectively swapping the microsd card and the internal storage. However, this seems like a rather dirty trick, and effectively makes the internal storage less usefull.
An ideal solution would be the have a firmware that uses the entire 8gb internal memory as "phone memory", and that mounts the external sd card as "sdcard".
I have no idea if this is poosible however...
Cheerz
Dracorius
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This one is definitely going to need new firmware to fix. Hope Sony don't sit on their behinds.
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It maybe the same file editing "voldfstab" as the Samsung device? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474
I've modified vold.fstab from Xperia Sola to mount SD card as sdcard and internal phone memory as ext_card. Archive http://download.hellshare.com/sdswap-zip/7773277/ contains original vold.fstab.bak and modified vold.fstab.new. Rename particular file to vold.fstab and use directions from link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088474. You should move aplication back to phone from internal memory (if there is any) and copy data from internal memory to SD card before you change vold.fstab.
i'm using directory bind
it's bind the dir in sdcard with dir in ext_card
i found in this forum..search it

[Q] How does the mounting work on the note2? Confusing.

I have my device set to save pictures to the SD card. I took a 20 burst shot to make some space be used.
I use FTP to access my SD card, the folder I access is /sdcard. That is also the folder I open in ES file explorer.
For pictures, they are saved in /sdcard/dcim
All makes sense, right?
Now, in the settings, I see:
http://i.imgur.com/W43Hg.png
http://i.imgur.com/uhQ0U.png
So really, my SD card is not used by anything, also, the internal storage seems to be 10GB.
So there is a fake SDcard 6GB big? Which is apparently the only one I can access?
How do I use my REAL SD card for pictures saving? And what is even the location of the actual SD card?
This all seems really strange to me. In my previous phone (HTC EVO3D) there was just the root folder, which had an sdcard folder, which was the actual SDcard. I wonder why there is a fake SDcard in this device? Anyone that can explain this?
Also, it is possible to have it like this:?
Main storage: 16gb
SDcard storage: 32gb, location of this: /sdcard
That would make SO MUCH more sense.
Have you tried /storage/extSdCard ?
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Have you tried /storage/extSdCard ?
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That is correct, that is indeed the place of my external SD.
I did some testing, and found out:
Normal pictures are saved on the actual sd: /storage/extSdCard/DCIM
Burst shots are saved on the "fake" /sdcard/DCIM
I guess burst shots need more speed then my class10 sd? STUPID!
So again back to the other questions: why is this? And is there any way to combine this? THIS SUCKS for storage organization via FTP etc, also, downloaded game data is saved to the fake sd, which is again STUPID. Some games take 1gb or more. What if I need more then 6gb of apps/gamedata storage? WHY did they do it this way? This REALLY frustrates me already.
Somebody please tell me there is some way to make the actual SD the default SD.
On older (Gingerbread) Android devices there was internal storage, and the sd card that you plugged in was "sdcard". On almost all newer devices there are actually three or more places things are stored:
internal (~2gb depending on the device, holds the android system, "personal" which stores phone info like contacts. This is what you flash/odin stuff to)
sdcard (Looks like any sdcard to android. Usually mounted to /mnt/sdcard. This is the "internal" sd card, built into your device)
sdcard 2 (The external sd card you put into the sd card slot. Usually mounted to /mnt/extSdCard, as noted above)
There are a few ways this is implemented. The internal sd card might be partitioned, with "internal" being on the first partition and "sdcard" on the second. This way you can format the internal sdcard without bricking your device.
Acorns said:
On older (Gingerbread) Android devices there was internal storage, and the sd card that you plugged in was "sdcard". On almost all newer devices there are actually three or more places things are stored:
internal (~2gb depending on the device, holds the android system, "personal" which stores phone info like contacts. This is what you flash/odin stuff to)
sdcard (Looks like any sdcard to android. Usually mounted to /mnt/sdcard. This is the "internal" sd card, built into your device)
sdcard 2 (The external sd card you put into the sd card slot. Usually mounted to /mnt/extSdCard, as noted above)
There are a few ways this is implemented. The internal sd card might be partitioned, with "internal" being on the first partition and "sdcard" on the second. This way you can format the internal sdcard without bricking your device.
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But that sucks? I also just noticed moving apps to sd is no longer an option. But how about gamedata? GTA3 takes 1GB. Some games take 2GB, but the only place to put those apps is in the internal 10GB storage? And pictures are storable on external SD, but not burst shots, which are saved in the internal SD? Stupid.
I just can't imagine any way this is positive.
Apparently it's a jellybean limitation - it's really putting me off ATM - there are many threads complaining about this feature but most feel that it is not going to change.
This next bit is all from my reading (I do not use android yet because of this storage holdup):
Apparently Google either doesn't want us to, or can't, use SD cards to store apps etc (makes sense - too easy to pirate etc) but why codes encrypting them to your device can't be included I don't know. Due to something to do with the file structure, particularly of the SGS3 and SGNII, JB can't/won't link to them. There are work rounds - nearly all (if not all) of which require rooting - they do work (according to reports) - just search the xda SGNII forum to find many posts on this. Unfortunately, even App2SD can't move the apps due to this file structure (this bit is samsung design)
For me it's a real shame, I am a Bit of an app addict, and, although I don't have many games (use mostly productivity apps) the game I do get are the "console games" which have a large footprint and larger installation files - I'd fill 16GB in a day. So I'm having to make a choice - 16GB and root, wait for the 32GB (looks likely the 64GB will never make international release) or just not bother at all. Ill probably go 16GB and root as it would save me a fortune on contract (due to Tethering feature). Shame really, for me, 90% of the attraction of android was "unlimited" storage - it still is, but just a bit more difficult to get.
Didn't know about burst shot storage (annoying but can see why) - presumably you can transfer them to external SD afterward if needed?
Snote only saves on the internal SD too!
Hey I just put in a 64gb microsd and formated it. It shows up mounted and avaliable space but I cant view the photos I had on it on my phone. When I connect it I get to see them on my computer. So how do I access extsdcard

[Q] question: how can I use an SD as internal storage

I have a 16gb sprint galaxy s3. I have a 16gb card in it. Is there a way to seamlessly make the sd be added to the internal so it functions as a 32gb? I need more storage for apps bad. If I could make my sd add to the internal storage I'd be set! Any help would be appreciated.
Try "Droidrail Super App2SD Lite" from the market if you're rooted. It allows you to move almost any app to your SD. I don't believe that you can make the phone recognize the external SD as internal though
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I am rooted. will tis allow me to install apps to the sd card and run them from my android menu like any other app?
i tried this app, thanks but all it does is go to the screen on the manage apps menu for that app when I go to move it. doesn't actually work.

Moving Apps to External SDCard??

I found an app that lets me "replace" my internal sdcard with my external
"Root External 2 Internal SD"
Directions are to move my Android folder to the external card and then run the app
I also found an app called "AppMgr III"
Are there any disadvantages to moving my external sdcard to the internal?
foldermount works better imho.......root to external on custom roms is a bit tricky
I ended up just moving the whole android folder over to the external. Then deleted the contents of the data and obb folders in the internal and reboot. All is well
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Really need an app!
We really need an app that will do this easily. Or, google needs to make this function a part of the OS. It should be an option where to install the apps. imho

[Q] Move apps to the EXTERNAL SD card??

Any way to truly move apps to the external SD card?
I have just recnetly learned that moving apps "to the SD card" in the settings>apps menu doesnt truly move them to the external SD card.
Why is that?
I dont have many apps yet, but it seems the apps i do have slowly get larger and larger as i use them and they save user data. (game progress for example).
Id like to know that I could at least move things that i dont care how fast they load to a truly external SD card (along with my wallpapers, ringtones, etc)
Even if theres a manual way via USB, thats cool. Just hoping someone with more than about a months worth of experience with a captivate glide (or really, i guess any phone that by default wont let you) could give some advice.
thanks!
Pawprints1986 said:
Any way to truly move apps to the external SD card?
I have just recnetly learned that moving apps "to the SD card" in the settings>apps menu doesnt truly move them to the external SD card.
Why is that?
I dont have many apps yet, but it seems the apps i do have slowly get larger and larger as i use them and they save user data. (game progress for example).
Id like to know that I could at least move things that i dont care how fast they load to a truly external SD card (along with my wallpapers, ringtones, etc)
Even if theres a manual way via USB, thats cool. Just hoping someone with more than about a months worth of experience with a captivate glide (or really, i guess any phone that by default wont let you) could give some advice.
thanks!
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You have sd card integrated to the board, its not true sd card. You can swap internal sd to external sd, then you can use same move function to use external micro sd card as application storage.
bubor said:
You have sd card integrated to the board, its not true sd card. You can swap internal sd to external sd, then you can use same move function to use external micro sd card as application storage.
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So theres no way to just manually tell it to move there without messing up whats already on the internal storage?
The Android system still has no option to move app to external sd. You can copy everything from internal (built-in) sd to external and apply change-fstab.zip to make Android think that your external sd is internal and vice versa. Works on every 4.4 rom. No performance drawbacks if using class 10 sd card. Worked for me flawlessly and thanks to bubor for this great feature.
And for manually... There's an app called Link2SD. It's some sort of workaround. You make second partition on your external SD and move apps there, leaving links for Android system on your internal storage. You can find it in google market, be sure to read instructions first.
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The Android system still has no option to move app to external sd. You can copy everything from internal (built-in) sd to external and apply change-fstab.zip to make Android think that your external sd is internal and vice versa. Works on every 4.4 rom. No performance drawbacks if using class 10 sd card. Worked for me flawlessly and thanks to bubor for this great feature.
And for manually... There's an app called Link2SD. It's some sort of workaround. You make second partition on your external SD and move apps there, leaving links for Android system on your internal storage. You can find it in google market, be sure to read instructions first.
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I remember trying link2sd on a friends tablet recently. it recognized certain apps as moveable, but when i actually tried to move them (on an SD that i had already partitioned) it said failure every time.
But im not sure i want to switch my storage entirely. I would just like to allow, say another 4 gigs on my SD card (with the other 4 being for wallpapers, ringtones, etc). i have an 8 gig card right now.
Then you should try link2sd here. Basically, no other options, unless you wish to emulate Link2SD work with some scripts and move apps manually. I saw some patches for Lenovo phones to combine internal storage or something like that, but they will not work on Glide obviously.

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