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This can be about anything... So this thread can be trash talk free, if you let it.
My question, Note 2 or Lg optimism g
I know this really isn't the best place to ask but I just have an opportunity to switch, and I'm curious.
Ps I love you. . Yes you
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I'd stick with the Note II as it has several advantages over the LG Optimus G - for example, the S Pen with excellent note taking capabilities, 3,100 mAh battery vs. 2,100 mAh battery, and the screen is much smaller on the LG (which depending on your preferences may throw you off a bit until you adjust to it.)
I also find the user interface on LG phones to be a bit lacking and, to be honest, an eyesore - I was looking at the Optimus G on display a few days ago when I was browsing around and it still feels like Gingerbread (mind you if you're planning to root and flash another ROM it's moot point, but if you want to stay stock then it's something to think about).
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I'd stick with the Note II as it has several advantages over the LG Optimus G - for example, the S Pen with excellent note taking capabilities, 3,100 mAh battery vs. 2,100 mAh battery, and the screen is much smaller on the LG (which depending on your preferences may throw you off a bit until you adjust to it.)
I also find the user interface on LG phones to be a bit lacking and, to be honest, an eyesore - I was looking at the Optimus G on display a few days ago when I was browsing around and it still feels like Gingerbread (mind you if you're planning to root and flash another ROM it's moot point, but if you want to stay stock then it's something to think about).
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Yeah, when I picked up the phone I liked the size vs the note 2... other than that I feel like the note 2 is a better phone. I really just want cm10 so the spen doesn't really matter. Plus I hardly use the pen. I find that with the lg build that phone could be a monster! With the right rom. Battery wise if it can last a day that's all that really matters, but I do enjoy 47 hours of battery. Thanks!
On another note, ****ing cowboys suxk!
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Another 5.5 inch phablet, what do you guys think ?
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/17/lg-optimus-g-pro-specs-na-launch-q2/
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I think $897 is ridiculous. Nothing really impressive other than the screen. For me... pass.
i like how lg made it so similar to our note 2
I wouldn't mind seeing that screen slapped on Note 2. Coming from higher PPI land (old phone was Evo 4G LTE), I can see slight fuzziness of the text on Note 2. But I love colors. Other than that, I think I would hold on to my Note 2 for quite some time.
No S-Pen = just another cellphone.
It's the first phone to feature the Snapdragon S600, which is significantly faster than the S4 pro.
The bezel is better than our device , but I still love my s-pen and its xing
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I'm glad lg made a phone with great specs that just means we can expect an even better note 3 lol cause samsung always kills the competition lol and wait no s beam lg lol y'all copied everything else lmao
wow I might sell my note and get that . 13mp cam 600 snapdragon @ 1.7 1080 screen ??? thats everything that shoulda been in the note 2
401PPI ??? Wow that combined with the 1080 display must blow the note 2 display out of the water.
It's gonna be a very nice phone. I hope tmobile carries it.
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loooks a lot like a note 2 doesnt it?
A few things jump out at me about the G Pro but the price is just atrocious... getting 500 out of me for the GNII was hard enough and to think GNII prices will surely dip once this $900 device hits the streets.
If nothing else but a marketing ploy, Samsung will provide the GNII just as the "cheaper, adequate" alternative (this time it really will be adequate).
Ultimately the smart buyer will go with the GNII, and Samsung will just "hedge" every LG or other Manufacturers "bet" by fluctuating their price accordingly.. lets face it, even at full price 700 is better than 900, and whenever LG does a sale, Samsung can afford to counter.
It will be a while before the GNII becomes obsolete, to the point where it has to be sold cheaply to gain sales
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I used to own a lg g slate and LGs support sucks horribly, id never buy an LG product because of that
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It looks nice and the specs are tip-top, but if it's got the glass back it's a non-starter.
meh, I like Samsung products better. Also I'm addicted to the SuperAMOLED displays.
Samsung will sink this with their next version of the Note, and that's most likely what I'll get after my Note 2.
I hope the price is a misprint. That is a crazy amount for a phone with marginally better specs.
I found a deal that would get me a Galaxy S3 or an Xperia ZL at the same price, the S3 is new, and the Xperia ZL is a used one. I've been having many problems with my Galaxy Nexus lately and am looking for a suitable replacement.
Which one is a better option?
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If ZL is in good condition then you can go for Xperia ZL becoz you will get latest tech spec compare S3, and S3 is now year old device..........
However, Galaxy S3 has an SAMOLED screen (far better blacks and far batter viewing angles), replacable battery and a way bigger developer community. It depends what you expect from your phone.
I had to face the same decision and decided to get the Xperia ZL for the Full HD resolution and hopefully better lifetime of my screen (SAMOLED screens tend to get worse over the course of years).
Greetings
Yeah, coming from a Galaxy Nexus, I was searching for a phone with a great dev support. I like everything about the S3 except the design. And I like the ZL because of it's newer innards and FullHD screen, but I've heard that it's really washed out, color wise..
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yeah the display appears washed-out when you don't look directly into the screen but in real life it does't matter much at least for me now its depend you...... i had same problem choosing between this phones but i wanted latest spec so that i can have good gaming experience as well as watching video on 5" Full HD screen its too Good, you can compare both phone online that may help you.....
Get ZL if its in good condition.
Its better than s3.
But just make sure ZL is not opened and repaired...before
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Well actually i came from S3, i love the viewing angles, and battery replace. but i decided to buy the ZL and let me tell you. ZL its like 1000 times better than S3 in terms of support, hardware, and even quality and design, viewing angles i dont really care, its not that bad at all. the truth is that the screen it the best screen i have seen on a phone, really 441 pixel per inch and a 5'? wow in a compact design even much smaller than S3.
In other words, go for the ZL if the phone is in excelent condition and never had been opened.:good:
Yeah, I went to a nearby shop and got a hands on of the ZL, really nice phone.
What's the battery like? Screen on with 3g?
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With 3G I'd say 3-4 hours but WiFi I get around 5 hours max.
Screen pixels are awesome but energivore. You'll get used to it tho.
The Sony UI is also a huge bonus over vanilla Android UI. At first I was annoyed by it but now I feel like I'm really using my Android phone for real.
I'd go for the ZL. It feels much better than the S3, and looks much better, too. On top of that, you get a better processor (Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412), a better graphics chip (Adreno 320 vs Mali 400), and twice the amount of RAM (1 GB vs 2 GB). On top of that, you get a full HD screen. There have been complaints about the viewing angles, but I'd say the viewing angles are not as bad as they are made out to be. Viewed top-down, though, the display is really, really good. For some reason--and I've observed this on a couple of units--the ZL's display is better than the Z's (I've actually got to evaluate both side by side with a Z).
So, if the ZL's in pristine condition, I'd say you go for it. Otherwise, if it's been "damaged" to some extent--you know, scratches and stuff--opt for the S3. Because personally, I wouldn't go for a damaged phone, no matter how good it might be specs-wise, and neither would I advise anybody to. That said, if you're going to be using your device heavily, and there's the need to carry around a spare battery, then it's obvious the S3's the best bet for you. So, weigh up your options, see what you need. If you're going to be carrying around a spare battery for backup, you're good with the S3. Otherwise, I'd definitely pick the ZL over the S3.
S3 is good, but ZL it's better, for me. :good:
Zl user here.. I was in similar confusion, well the chose zl over one x plus and s3 mainly its full hd display, I agree that viewing angles are not that great but normally the colors of the display cone out really well, camera though there is a problem with over compression and macro, it gives better results with manual settings, ir blaster is added feature, hardware wise its good too, not too old either. And frankly receiving updates faster than other companies. With every updates its improving, battery is better than s3 for sure. Interface is simple yet beautiful, no bloatware, I have tried most of the high end games, there is a heating issue.
Conclusion at this point of time I would buy zl over s3 or one x plus, or wait for mini version of z1
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Zl user here.. I was in similar confusion, well the chose zl over one x plus and s3 mainly its full hd display, I agree that viewing angles are not that great but normally the colors of the display cone out really well, camera though there is a problem with over compression and macro, it gives better results with manual settings, ir blaster is added feature, hardware wise its good too, not too old either. And frankly receiving updates faster than other companies. With every updates its improving, battery is better than s3 for sure. Interface is simple yet beautiful, no bloatware, I have tried most of the high end games, there is a heating issue.
Conclusion at this point of time I would buy zl over s3 or one x plus, or wait for mini version of z1
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the iverheating is firmware version the 67, have that issue. we are all w8ting for the fix ore the update
Thanks guys. Add a Note 2 and Htc One X plus to this mix.
Also, battery life is important for me.
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the iverheating is firmware version the 67, have that issue. we are all w8ting for the fix ore the update
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From 6.7 I got that issue... That's really strange, a repair might just fix that. Didn't get time to do it yet..
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Thanks guys. Add a Note 2 and Htc One X plus to this mix.
Also, battery life is important for me.
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Note is different kind of phone. Bigger screen, s pen, these are some added features, which is not there in any of these phones discussed. And all of these are priced at similar range. my suggestion, go to a store use all these phone side by side pick the one you like most, if you are routine phone switcher consider note 2 as is got good resale price of all these phones.
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Is the battery life on the One X+ really bad? I'm in love with this phone.
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Hi community,
I'm working in a Tele2 shop and have access to all kind of phones, owned all the flagships from all manufactures included S4, One, S3, Onex, Note2 etc.
Now I'm on Optimus G and don't have intention to leave it, as is by far the best phone from all of them.
My question is, what do you think why the LGOG is so underrated, underestimated?
I mean why such low interest in this phone, cause on 15 S4 that I sell one LGOG is sold.
The service repair rate is like on 20 S4 7 is back for repair between the first month, which makes it the most serviced phone in my store, and the rates for the LGOG is 1 over 20 phones.
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Hi community,
I'm working in a Tele2 shop and have access to all kind of phones, owned all the flagships from all manufactures included S4, One, S3, Onex, Note2 etc.
Now I'm on Optimus G and don't have intention to leave it, as is by far the best phone from all of them.
My question is, what do you think why the LGOG is so underrated, underestimated?
I mean why such low interest in this phone, cause on 15 S4 that I sell one LGOG is sold.
The service repair rate is like on 20 S4 7 is back for repair between the first month, which makes it the most serviced phone in my store, and the rates for the LGOG is 1 over 20 phones.
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There are little things called marketing, brand recognition and brand loyalty.
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I know that very well, as I said, I'm a shop manager in Tele2, but if you compare the price in my country for an S3 and the LGOG, the S3 is 50$ more expensive, which has no reason to be, you can't compare this two phones, I'm talking about the standard S3 not the LTE version. Lg has a quiet good marketing in my country.
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true,lgog is one of the best,but unfortunatelly it came unnoticed.not to mention it came late in europe.that's lg's biggest problem,then the updates issue. it doesn't matter you make the best phone,if you deliver it after 6+ months from release. meanwhile,the competition doesn't sleep.
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Galaxy phones have great marketing and support from Samsung and dev comunity, also they come packed with features that easily atract average buyers. After using SGS2 and HTC One S i just fell in love with Krait So I was thinging about buying SGS3 or LGOG, and they both had interesting features. Desided to get OG cuz it was 50 eur cheaper.
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Since this is my first LG I don't know about updates, but I do know that I sold the S4 and bought OG without blinking, earned 250$ and still having a better piece of hardware in my opinion. Maybe Samsung has better marketing but the S4 is a plastic piece of shi...
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LGOG is a beast in performance compared to sgsIII..... Since this was the LG's first flagship phone during the time of release, users had doubt to buy this phone. Also Samsung has almost occupied lot more ppls in globe which pushed OG to the drown..... Though this s a grt phone, camera quality is nt upto expectation..... LG shud ve released all versions of OG with 8mpx nd improved quality instead of 13mpx and avg quality...this s also the another reason for this phone not getting popularity..... Also LG is very very slow in pushing update to their flagship models slower than Internet Explorer...
The oly problem arises in this phone is NFC.... Duno wat t hell LG did... Within 6 months I visited service centr thrice and changed the entire motherboard 3 tyms.... :banghead::banghead:
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Yep, I agree OG deserves better visibility... I have been using SGS2 for a while, but am now putting it up for sale after buying OG for just $150 (used, but in a great shape). It's an awesome phone, even with some things that are still lacking in my books (i.e. camera quality, no OTG and no SD card slot). I am not worried too much about updates, as I am happy with 4.1.2 at the moment. And I used to have an O2X before, so I am aware of LG's crappy updates...
Well I'm very satisfied with the camera, just go to gsm arena and compare the camera of Xperia Z S4 and OG and you will see that the S4 camera is slightly better but not much, and the Xperia Z it's much much worst. If we compare prices then I think we're wining the game.
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Well I'm very satisfied with the camera, just go to gsm arena and compare the camera of Xperia Z S4 and OG and you will see that the S4 camera is slightly better but not much, and the Xperia Z it's much much worst.
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Yeah, I know... But simply comparing OG with my old SGS2, the camera on S2 is significantly better, in both stills and video. So, for me personally, the camera is a bit of a downgrade. This is just my subjective, non-scientific comparison...
Samsung has only stronger sharpen setting nothin more, It's just a software settings, that work indee very well.
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Well I'm very satisfied with the camera, just go to gsm arena and compare the camera of Xperia Z S4 and OG and you will see that the S4 camera is slightly better but not much, and the Xperia Z it's much much worst. If we compare prices then I think we're wining the game.
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Mine has 2 weeks and the camera has dust and is full of scratches...i'm a maniac of phones i treat them very vell...but it's not enoght...the glass is not very good....
Do you use a case? I use original LG flip cover case and not a scratch on it.
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Mine has 2 weeks and the camera has dust and is full of scratches...i'm a maniac of phones i treat them very vell...but it's not enoght...the glass is not very good....
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Yeah i use a cover!
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Try to change a cover, not all covers are good.
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It looks like the thread took a detour, but I have to add one more thing about the camera... I want to take back what I said about the image quality. Here is what happened. I was looking at the lens cover, and it seemed to me that I just couldn't clean it well enough, no matter what I did. Having a knack for taking apart everything that gets into my hands, without a second thought I decided to open up my OG. Apparently, on the inside of the lens cover there was some residue (not a dust, but more like a thin film or "haze"), which I easily removed with a Q-tip. Put stuff back together, and tried snapping the same pics I was taking yesterday, in the same lighting conditions and using the same stock camera app. Everything is crystal-clear now! I have to say I am much happier now, as this was one of the main things this phone was falling short in comparison to my old SGS2.
Getting back to the original thought about the OG being underrated, I think the lack of awareness actually has its advantages... I mean, if it was as popular as S3, for example, there would be no way in hell I could get it that cheap on Craigslist!
Agressive marketing won't make a device better. A good product sells by itself. If a product needs a lot of advertising,then it has flaws. Instead of investing in publicity,samsung should spend more on quality materials.
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kimitza said:
Agressive marketing won't make a device better. A good product sells by itself. If a product needs a lot of advertising,then it has flaws. Instead of investing in publicity,samsung should spend more on quality materials.
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I disagree with the quality materials statement. Just because its plastic, doesn't mean its not of quality construction or durability. Glass shatters and ads additional weight, whilst metal dings and bends. In the event a plastic case does break, a replacement can be cheaply sourced and its easy to refit. Samsung has a carbon fiber division that is rumored to be developing sgs5 housing.
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I disagree with the quality materials statement. Just because its plastic, doesn't mean its not of quality construction or durability. Glass shatters and ads additional weight, whilst metal dings and bends. In the event a plastic case does break, a replacement can be cheaply sourced and its easy to refit. Samsung has a carbon fiber division that is rumored to be developing sgs5 housing.
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Samsung is poor in quality.... Juz chk the first or second post of this thread... As a seller he mentioned how many Samsung mobiles he s getting back for servicing and the count s greater than LGs..... I've seen a brand new mobile of samsung giving hell lot of probs with in 3 months.... My sis had galaxy duo and she bought it recently... Suddenly it started behaving badly nd restarting by itself... Service centr guyzz asked her to change the whole motherboard...... Since Samsung has reached the market ppl still believing it as a quality product... Before buying my lgog even i had a doubt to buy Samsung SIII.... But this mobile is so cool than sgs3...:thumbup::thumbup:
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Mine has 2 weeks and the camera has dust and is full of scratches...i'm a maniac of phones i treat them very vell...but it's not enoght...the glass is not very good....
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Same here... It's bad,that the camera is a little bit higher than the back. Generally the Quality of the used materials is bad, the silver border arround the display is really soft. But the speed of the phone is insane and its cheap!
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Hello guys! I have recently decided to buy a new phone, and after some searching on the internet, I cannot decide between the following phones (they all have the same price from where I buy them): Optimus G, Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3 LTE. I would go for the nexus because of the fast updates coming from Google and the powerful hardware, but I don't like that it has the buttons on the screen and I would really like an LTE phone because it is more future reliable. I like the Optimus G and the S3, but I can't decide between them. I like both interfaces, they have similar hardware, and also the storage is much bigger. I don't think that the Nexus has enough storage and I am afraid that Optimus G won't receive many updates. I mean it's stuck on 4.1.2 for quite a long...
So, in conclusion, I would like a phone that will receive updates (like 4.4 kitkat) and that has a nice interface and powerful hardware. So which one should I choose? Thank you in advance.
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Hello guys! I have recently decided to buy a new phone, and after some searching on the internet, I cannot decide between the following phones (they all have the same price from where I buy them): Optimus G, Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3 LTE. I would go for the nexus because of the fast updates coming from Google and the powerful hardware, but I don't like that it has the buttons on the screen and I would really like an LTE phone because it is more future reliable. I like the Optimus G and the S3, but I can't decide between them. I like both interfaces, they have similar hardware, and also the storage is much bigger. I don't think that the Nexus has enough storage and I am afraid that Optimus G won't receive many updates. I mean it's stuck on 4.1.2 for quite a long...
So, in conclusion, I would like a phone that will receive updates (like 4.4 kitkat) and that has a nice interface and powerful hardware. So which one should I choose? Thank you in advance.
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you want lte or you use or will use lte?
if lte is a must S3 has better camera
if camera is not an issue optimus G
you can always use cyanogenMod for future updates.
I say the S3 cos it has the most customizability. If there's any thing u don't like. U can change it. Also. The S3 is the best for gaming, has the best camera, and it is more well known. Which means anytime u want to know something about your phone. Search it up and I almost guarantee that you'll find it. Oh yeah. People have started to repair soft bricked and hard bricked Samsung Galaxies. Whereas other phones don't get that kinda support. (Geez I'm acting like I'm in a dam commercial).
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Wait for nexus 5
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If you want it now and care about future, s3 1gb ram and the G 2gb, everything said. If not, wait for nexus 5
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you want lte or you use or will use lte?
if lte is a must S3 has better camera
if camera is not an issue optimus G
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I would like yto have lte because it seems more future proof and soon it will ne available in my city. i also heard that s3 has a poor quality built.
No s3 lte. Is worse than normal s3. Nexus4 or G. But n4 has no lte. It's a big deal,i see you're from romania. If you think 8/16gb are enough and you want the latest android on your phone,but no lte,then buy the n4. If you don't care about that,but you still want 32gb of storage,a sturdy device,with flawless lg ui(it's way lighter and better than samsung's tw),with a more than decent camera,lte connection,then go for the g. Make sure it will be e975. Other models will not have 4g in romania.
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I would like yto have lte because it seems more future proof and soon it will ne available in my city. i also heard that s3 has a poor quality built.
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S3 doesn't have poor built quality, its the material used what people bugged about.
if you are in US, S3 will be a dualcore with 2GB ram, rest of the world its quad core with 1GB ram, left the LTE version i9305 which is quadcore + 2GB RAM. so search your options.
Can never go wrong with Optimus G!
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Does the optimus g have good custom roms? My optimus one has very good and stable roms. And if i install a custom rom on it would the g be better than the n4?
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Does the optimus g have good custom roms? My optimus one has very good and stable roms. And if i install a custom rom on it would the g be better than the n4?
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If nexus 4 camera is same as optimus G, than yes custom rom like cm10.2 will make it better than nexus 4
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Does the optimus g have good custom roms? My optimus one has very good and stable roms. And if i install a custom rom on it would the g be better than the n4?
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Yes and also almost same kernel features
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Hi,
2 months ago I also had the same issue and went for the Optimus G. I left out the N4 because the 16GB maximum storage and the lack of LTE. Regarding the S3, from the hardware point of view, I don’t think it can compete with the OG.
OG
Slighty better CPU
Much better GPU
Better display (at least for me; colors more realistic)
Better materials; feels more robust
S3
Some say it has better camera (however, for a smartphone, my only complaint about the OG’s camera has to do with the autofocus. It's not a big deal but sometimes it gets a little erratic. I don't know about the S3; OG E975 has 13Mpx)
Lighter (the consequence of the materials used)
Probably better support regarding ROM updates (let’s hope LG has learned from their mistakes)
However, you can always opt for a custom ROM. OG is not as popular as S3 but you can easily confirm here at XDA that you have many options for OG. I’m still using LGOG original ROM (E97510H-EUR-XX) and it’s very fast and stable, even with 100+ apps installed.
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OG
Slighty better CPU
Much better GPU
Better display (at least for me; colors more realistic)
Better materials; feels more robust
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Just my 2 cents on the display... S3 has a Super AMOLED screen, while OG has an IPS LCD. People's opinions on the differences are quite polarized, but in my book a good LCD beats AMOLED anytime, hands down. More realistic colours, less "cartoonish". And the display on OG is just awesome -- I have a couple S3 owners commenting on how surprised they were about it.
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Just my 2 cents on the display... S3 has a Super AMOLED screen, while OG has an IPS LCD. People's opinions on the differences are quite polarized, but in my book a good LCD beats AMOLED anytime, hands down. More realistic colours, less "cartoonish". And the display on OG is just awesome -- I have a couple S3 owners commenting on how surprised they were about it.
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once you use a good super amoled plus you will never ever want to go anywhere no matter how greater the LCD screen is, but if you are like me or someone who don't like too vibrant colors (most people like vibrant color) newer LCD's specially from LG are very very Good.
also remember Samsung has altered the display of S4 and now S3 via software update to give you option to make is realistic color and many didn't realize this and never tried it.
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people also doesn't know amoled has a very short life span vs the LCD panels, and this lifespan is about the color reproduction not the working life. so a 2 year old amoled screen will look terrible in-front of a new amoled and more than 2 year old amoled will give you strange color balance, many doesn't know this and say amoled is Sh=t.
Samsung set the standard with those over saturated colours. Being the no1 player on the market,the average user take for granted this is how a screen should be like. And the other manufacturers play samsung's game too. Take lg for example,although we have ips lcd,the coulours ARE in fact a litle over saturated. So,mentioning the colours is irrelevant. I would go for sunlight visibility,which is better for lg. The materials,also a plus for g. S3 lte has about the same custom support like our g. And i said it before,neck to neck,the kicks the butt of s3 lte.
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All this arguement would really boil down to user preference.. just get what u think is best for you
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