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[Q] What kind of thread qualifies for general exactly???

Just wondering really? they keep getting locked for off-topic, when general is a pretty wide topic... i would think anything pertaining to the epic that isnt a question or a development, should go there... maybe im wrong??

Exactly... moderators really need to do a MUCH better job at communication. I have sent PM's and do not get responses, so please explain moderators.

they only communicate by banning and closing threads.. theimpaler was one of the few mods here that could communicate... the rest put this place on auto pilot and ban/mod without reading or communicating and half the time without thinking...

Thank you
Thanks Chris for speaking up for the new people around. Means a lot
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I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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JohnCorleone said:
I am wondering this as well and I was also wondering why threads that bash our developers are kept open long enough for people to pop in and take pot shots.
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Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.

thomasskull666 said:
Agreed, seems as if they get amusement from watching us bicker but once something actually important gets posted they're on it like flies on ****.
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Hopefully the mods get this under control because we are losing some of our kindest and most helpful devs. Also, what the flamers fail to realize is they are only hurting the rest of the community because a lot of the developers, themers, and testers are just choosing to communicate via G-Talk anyway. Its truly sad that developers spend hours, days, and weeks of their free time, often working all night long to provide their great projects, and they seem to get less respect than someone who spreads nothing but negativity and provides no help whatsoever.
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superpaperman said:
+1, I'm a noob and I know that...
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Well welcome. You would be surprised by some of the things you see posted around here.
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Lets keep it in one place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177144

[Q] NVM

cp320703 is right probably wrong place to ask oh for the record i buy apps, just like lucky patcher

I wouldn't expect a whole lot of help with lucky patcher on xda since as far as I know it has no use other than warez, and talk about warez is obviously against the rules here due to not only the legal ramifications, be those as they may, but also the fact that the "d" in xda stands for developers, not exactly the right group of people to be asking for help with software piracy. If I am mistaken and lucky patcher has some legitimate use currently unknown to me I appologise, however should it not I would suggest that you simply pony up the buck or two and pay for the damn app, your phone will run better and a developer somewhere will get the money they deserve. Have a nice day.
Edit. Forgot to inb4lock, bush league mistake... hi jay!
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[DISCUSSION] iOS on XDA

Seeing as this is a discussion about XDA and not about general phones, I thought this is the most appropriate place to put this thread. I have also checked for similar threads but have found nothing.
If a mod thinks otherwise I am sorry for posting in the wrong place.
I have created this thread as you can probably tell, to ask why there is no iOS in the listed platforms on XDA.
With iOS on XDA the site itself will recieve: - A much much larger audience
- More users
So why not include it.
This is not a request even though it may seem like it. There is obviously a reason as to why there is no iOS and I simply want to root it out. Even if it only takes one or two posts and the thread has to be moved around by mods for posting in the incorrect place.
Please contribute to the thread. I have also created a poll. If you do not have time to leave a comment, use the poll.

Anything relating to iOS can be found on XDA's sister site, forum.iphone-developers.com. The reason they don't put that section on this site is because it would inevitably cause too many flame wars between iOS fanboys and Android fanboys.
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Why people cannot just accept ios as simplicicty and android as power I just do not know.

I wouldn't know because I've never owned an apple product. I've only ever used them whilst trying to sort problems out for my family & friends who own them.
I just simply couldn't own one because I mainly customize my phone through widgets, launchers etc. There isn't the ability to do that from iOS.
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baddaman54 said:
Why people cannot just accept ios as simplicicty and android as power I just do not know.
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I think they do, just not in the tone that you mean. Discussions of this sort invariably take on a nasty tone due to the scorched earth policy decided upon by one of the involved companies.
On a different note, would you please consider reducing the font size you are using? Honestly, it comes across in exactly the same manner as all caps does by "yelling". I do not believe you mean it that way, but it does come across that way in effect. Thank you.

mf2112 said:
I think they do, just not in the tone that you mean. Discussions of this sort invariably take on a nasty tone due to the scorched earth policy decided upon by one of the involved companies.
On a different note, would you please consider reducing the font size you are using? Honestly, it comes across in exactly the same manner as all caps does by "yelling". I do not believe you mean it that way, but it does come across that way in effect. Thank you.
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Thanks for letting me know about the font. I just thought it was clearer for people to read. :laugh: Now I see why people write in this font so much.
Well at least someone said it.

i have used iphone 3g and 4s but for me iphone is a crap but there are lots of stuffs/mods that you can do with an android phone but you cant do it in an iphone

That is true. I've always loved android for that. But because so many hipsters get iphone. The support is through the roof. Jailbreak will permit anything.

I will literally troll the sister forums to the point it blows up.
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KidCarter93 said:
Anything relating to iOS can be found on XDA's sister site, forum.iphone-developers.com. The reason they don't put that section on this site is because it would inevitably cause too many flame wars between iOS fanboys and Android fanboys.
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I agree with this, also i belive that iOS has such a large following it needs it's own dedicated forum, as give it a section under platforms would not be enough.

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I will literally troll the sister forums to the point it blows up.
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:laugh:

Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feeling. iOS and Android, both are great and should be here, someone agrees or not, doesn't really matter.

ithehappy said:
Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feeling. iOS and Android, both are great and should be here, someone agrees or not, doesn't really matter.
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What about iPhone developers? They have a site. And the differences can lead to mayhem.
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ithehappy said:
Of course iOS should be here in XDA. Only Android discussions looks XDA a biased feelings.
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You really need to look around more. This sight covers Android, WM as well as WP. IOS has its site.
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zelendel said:
You really need to look around more. This sight covers Android, WM as well as WP. IOS has its site.
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If this was captivate forum u could close this jk
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leezrd said:
If this was captivate forum u could close this jk
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He can still close this
And I'm not joking...
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iOS has its own forum unlike android or any other operating system. Why not use that

go on some <No idea>iOS forum.. :laugh:

Ios on xda... let's not mess with that pandora's box...
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go on some gayiOS forum.. :laugh:
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Think before typing or don't type at all :laugh:

Xda members read!!!

I am dissapointed to say that xda has fallen off, it used to be a great community where people could come and learn and others share their knowledge. Now its just a bunch of snobs not willing to help someone instead just bash someone for being a "NOOB" thats just b.s and i didnt pay for something to get bashed on buying this app is contributing to android. Its just embarrasing being part of a community like this idk what happened or when it happened but i wish people would get off the rag and reach out to others in time of help instead of being arrogant pricks about simple things, this isnt a rant its just a persons opinions on whats been happening if you dont like it then f**** off im only trying to figure out why, with that being said
WHATS THE DEAL XDA????
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You're always going to have ass holes making ass hole comments. I remember it going back to when I joined. As xda gains in popularity you get more and more people a certain percentage of those people will be ass holes......
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You're always going to have ass holes making ass hole comments. I remember it going back to when I joined. As xda gains in popularity you get more and more people a certain percentage of those people will be ass holes......
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Well of course, and you'll also get a higher percentage of people that don't give two ****s to spend five minutes searching for an answer to their problem and just want to ask away. In the galaxy nexus forums it's the worst because people will ask questions that have been answered when they're on the SAME PAGE as the question they're asking.

most aren't A Holes just because they like to be, almost half of them are fed up and tired of lazy people. It's like working on the same exact issue over and over and over... Unfortunately both parties are right when there are always going to be lazies, and the A Holes. If it's that simple of an answer and I know has been answered/discussed about 5 times or more, I'll just ignore as most will do, or answer by linking them to all the threads about the same topic. Ya it's a little on the A Hole side, but it also answers their questions and tells them how easy and informative searching can be.

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What's the deal with people that post questions that are often posted already? Or even Googling answers? WHATS THE DEAL THERE TOO???
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This story will never end. It's just the way it is. Either you ignore those who bash and move on or do a little hw before posting a question that has been answered multiple times. The G2x section was filled with repeated questions. Personally I get annoyed and irritated after a while.
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As do I! More irritating is when you try to help them help themselves and they think you're slamming them for being a noob.
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my favorite part is how everyone is bashing people who don't use the search function, yet there's like 90 threads that talk about how XDA isn't how it used to be and here is yet another thread about it
The reason everyone thinks XDA is "not like it used to be" is because the developer to user ratio has been diluted as XDA gains popularity. There are the same number of devs on this site as there's always been (probably more, actually), but there's waaaaaaay more users interested in rooting their phones and flashing custom firmware.
No internet community is perfect, and gigantic ones like this are going to have their problems...but the true XDAers suck it up, move on, ignore the jerks, and do what they came here to do. they certainly don't sit and complain about it.

@sisekickSquad817, It can be tough to get answers to your questions at times, and there are definitely users that are nicer about it then others. Here's my suggestion, send a couple of friend requests to the users that you speak with the most. Send me a friend request, and while I'm no developer, if I can't answer your question then I'll probably be able to point you in the direction of someone who can. Just PM me with your question, and as soon as I have a free moment then I'll do my best to help. Soon you'll find you have a few solid friends, and those friends will have a few solid friends, and the answers will be at your finger tips with a little patience. I know things can be frustrating, but threads like this can bring unwanted attention from the not so nice users, and then the mods get involved. Its probably best to avoid situations like that, or at least that's my opinion. Good Luck and I look forward to hearing from you

I've noticed this as well and I've been wondering when someone was going to make a thread about it.
I'll just add my plea for civility. Everybody was a noob at one time.
Back in the vibrant forum everybody tended to be very friendly. Let's try to keep it friendly here too.

You can't change anything, so why ***** about it, just give help to the users who have at least tried to read. Most ALL the answers are there anyway. If you watch, the people who are just looking for a quick answer post the same thing over an over. And in different forums. Saw one idiot post the same post in 5 different forums. 3G user asking questions in the mt4g forum. Moron.
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Good response to the ops question. I'm here too for anything I can help. But all users in xda must really understand that if your going to participate you need to read and and comprehend basic terms or follow instructions. Now sometimes you won't find something and that's ok you can ask. But there is a section for everything and many users don't care enough to see that. This is why the majority of people will be d**ks with you.
Not mainly because you ask a question in the wrong sectionbut because if the answer is obvious to the majority of users than it must be something you are missing. If you know android think of this like your debugging something. The error is clear just for back and start slowly this time.
There's a place for everything. Including xda.
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I've noticed this too. I originally joined about three years ago ( this is a new account because I hated my old username) and have noticed both an increase in noobs and assholes. However, it isn't as bad as some of the Mustang forums I lurk. Most of those guys are total douches.
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jnewman1991 said:
I've noticed this too. I originally joined about three years ago ( this is a new account because I hated my old username) and have noticed both an increase in noobs and assholes. However, it isn't as bad as some of the Mustang forums I lurk. Most of those guys are total douches.
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As a former camaro owner, I completely agree that mustang owners are douches
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This topic has been discussed one million times. Stop creating useless threads covering issues that have been beaten to death. If you would bother to search, you'd find that this topic has been discussed countless times already, noob. Go post in one of those threads instead of wasting space here.
This thread doesn't even ****ing belong in this forum section. It has nothing to do with the SGS3. NOTHING.

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This topic has been discussed one million times. Stop creating useless threads covering issues that have been beaten to death. If you would bother to search, you'd find that this topic has been discussed countless times already, noob. Go post in one of those threads instead of wasting space here.
This thread doesn't even ****ing belong in this forum section. It has nothing to do with the SGS3. NOTHING.
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I think you just perfectly made the OPs point.......
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Exactly, no point in posting if ur just gonna be a **** about it, if it doesn't belong in this area *****ing about it won't move it. I got my point across so that's all I have to say about it
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Why is wild child jb rom locked?

Just noticed its been locked for ever... The one with jb aroma... What's wrong with it?
I haven't seen any of his work lately, just curious...
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I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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Noobiologist said:
I'm not sure either but apparently, wld child kanged Wicked ROM.
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So is he banned now or something?
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Crisisx1 said:
So is he banned now or something?
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Yeah, probably. That's what usually happens.
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he's still deving
See note 2 development
I think he still devs for us, too
Just not that Rom
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Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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chrisram88 said:
Give credit where credit is due. Should be xda motto lol
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He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.

xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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shahkam said:
He knew how things work around xda rules are rules its not because hes a dev he could do what pleased him..
B4NN3D.
Not to be a **** or anything i loved his rom but still ...
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Im not against the rules or anything else Im sure they are helpful for the bigger picture.:cyclops: I am however stating its ironic that he did better with there stuff than they did. IMO when a dev does that its usually buggy or simply not as good , his roms were always up to date and he had stuff out much quicker than others.
At the end of the day everyone here is modding someone elses work to begin with so getting banned for using a modification to an open source or Samsung based software is just weird to me.
Isnt that why theres two dev forums to begin with ?

Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).

xManMythLegend said:
He should have just added some credits. His roms were better than those he "borrowed" from. He also updated far more frequently and was always responding to questions.
What a shame.
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He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy

evil1art said:
He "borrowed" from me! And alot of other people, he wasnt a dev he was a kang artist! And got caught! You have no idea buddy
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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.

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Seems like you're arguing semantics. Only thing I see wrong is not giving credit. (ill surrender the end point that it's xdas way of managing things and that's fine.)
However you and everyone else are working off Google and to a lesser extent Samsungs work to begin with he only borrowed what you tweaked in someone else's code to begin with ;don't know why devs feel they should have special treatment. Having followed android *devs* since the early G1 days I find the current state rather egotistical and counter productive at times.
Again I say... I understand about not giving credit but alluding to him being a thief is ironic considering what is actually being done.
You say I have no idea, that's fine perhaps I don't . But proclaiming thievery with exclamation points doesn't exactly educate or inform anyone of anything let alone show that I'm in the dark on the matter.
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Doesn't matter. You don't give credit you get banned. Thievery!!!!!!!:thumbup:
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Credit is the least he can ask. Do you know or even have an idea how long it takes to make a rom? De compiling recompiling apks tweaking smali. **** I tried to theme a couple pngs and 15 toggles and it took me a couple days just reading to figure out what to do! They have to edit a lot of files. It's long tedious work and they do it all for free!!
Regardless if it was based off Google code. They edited and made it unique. It is now theirs. For example for school you have to write a paper about Lincoln. You research about Lincoln and final write your paper. What your saying is that the paper you wrote is not yours because you pretty much just reworded facts you read online. (provided you didn't copy paste) the paper is now your own paper that you can claim rights too.
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not banned
WC has personal health issues and chose to close his public site for a bit. He has not been Banned and has some awesome new stuff for both the Htc Vivid and the new Htc One. He has been going through a lot and hopefully will be back up and running soon. Gary
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Woody said:
Just so that we are all clear on this subject. He is not Banned.
Like someone above said, he still has a ROM in one of the Note sections (can't remember if NI or NII atm). I am one of the Mods over those sections as well so I have seen his threads and activity.
Now I don't know what exactly went down and why the thread was locked and even if I did, I'm not sure I can speak freely. I was called away on a family emergency that weekend and when I got back it was locked and the other thread about this was in full swing. It seemed like a kang job, but as I said, I do not know the particulars. I am only posting in this thread to let you know that he was not banned and chose to host his S3 ROM elsewhere.
Please don't make this thread into a pissing contest about who's was better and random speculation about what happened. Plus, if he is not here to defend himself, he shouldn't be attacked (not saying that any of the ones that posted attacked him in any way *more for future posters, if this thread stays open).
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