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Battery usage monitor?

Hi Guys!
I am facing a very extreme battery draining situation...
Something is keep waking up my phone while my screen is turned off.
Is there any good app out there I could monitor / Find out what is constantly waking up my phone? I can not find any good app for that.
Thanks for your help in advance.

Rem-X said:
Hi Guys!
I am facing a very extreme battery draining situation...
Something is keep waking up my phone while my screen is turned off.
Is there any good app out there I could monitor / Find out what is constantly waking up my phone? I can not find any good app for that.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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Settings->About Phone->Battery->Battery Use
Get yourself rooted and grab SetCPU. I have a profile set on that which underclocks my CPU when the screen is off. Doing this GREATLY increased my battery life.
I also use Tom Hubalek's Battery Gauge Widget to help me monitor my battery. But, after using the RCMix S v2.0 ROM and calibrating my battery (and the mentioned CetCPU settings) I get a good day out of my phone with a lot of wifi and 3g usage.

Never had any issue so far with my battery... I am checking battery usage in the settings menu but it is not enough. Need to see what exactly using my battery 'cause its unacceptable to drain 60% in 5 hours... The only thing I can see that something is using (waking up) the phone even when the screen is turned off...
I am using SetCPU as well with Smartass governor... can not be the problem...

Also set a profile for screen off - i have it set to 245min-245max smartass. It seems to save battery more than just set on the main screen.

davebugyi said:
Also set a profile for screen off - i have it set to 245min-245max smartass. It seems to save battery more than just set on the main screen.
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Hmmmm... never tried that before... I'll give it a try. Thx
But ANYWAY... something is using my phone and thats not normal imo...

Rem-X said:
Never had any issue so far with my battery... I am checking battery usage in the settings menu but it is not enough. Need to see what exactly using my battery 'cause its unacceptable to drain 60% in 5 hours... The only thing I can see that something is using (waking up) the phone even when the screen is turned off...
I am using SetCPU as well with Smartass governor... can not be the problem...
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Have you tried changing the Wi-Fi sleep policy? Also, pocket mode and fastboot, if you have those options.
My SetCPU is set to OnDemand. I thought Smartass was unstable and gobbled more power than it should? I dunno, though, I use whatever the ROM developer uses for the ROM; I don't change anything.
But you're right, my phone has lost 61% in 14 hours. 60 in 5 is wrong.
I think JuiceDefender has some of the features you're looking for, though:
https://market.android.com/search?q=juice+defender+battery&so=1&c=apps

davebugyi said:
Also set a profile for screen off - i have it set to 245min-245max smartass. It seems to save battery more than just set on the main screen.
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Ach, I have mine to 245-600MHz when the screen is off. Any less and my rom is lacky when the screen wakes. Had the same settings as you for other none Sense 3.0 ROM's though. MAJOR power saving. If you leave your phone downloading, though, the screen off profile kills the download rate.
Check it out, upload a file to your phone via wifi, turn the screen off and watch the speed plummet to about 100kbs!
EDIT:
Anyway, I had a massive power saving when I used this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570
Still using it today!

Kryten2k35 said:
Ach, I have mine to 245-600MHz when the screen is off. Any less and my rom is lacky when the screen wakes. Had the same settings as you for other none Sense 3.0 ROM's though. MAJOR power saving. If you leave your phone downloading, though, the screen off profile kills the download rate.
Check it out, upload a file to your phone via wifi, turn the screen off and watch the speed plummet to about 100kbs!
EDIT:
Anyway, I had a massive power saving when I used this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988570
Still using it today!
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I am using LeeDroid 3.0.8.2, never had such problem... weird...

Dialer
If you're using a gingerbread based ROM, it could also be the dialer. At least it is for me. Sometimes he just goes crazy and I have to reboot the phone. Apparently the dialer checks the phones proximity using the sensors again and again.
For further reference and solutions see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069251

Juice defender and Setcpu are in the same basket as task killers.
If you are using Smartass you don't need any profiles. Check your widgets, probably you have one which updates every second and kills your battery.

[REQUEST] simple app: Help with overheat problem

Hello,
I need a simple app to help with an overheat problem on my EVO.
Let me recap the problem simply, when the phone gets too warm it will shut down and vibrate five times and then blink the green LED. The phone then cannot be turned back on until the battery has cooled down.
I have found a half solution, if my phone is in Airplane mode then it will not shut down even when it is warm. So, to avoid shutdown, I need a simple widget. The widget should be 2x1. On the left side, a simple battery temp monitor. On the right side, an airplane icon to let me know if the phone is in airplane mode or not.
What I need the app to do is to automatically switch the phone to airplane mode if the the phone gets above a user designated temperature. The only exception to the automatic airplane mode should be if the phone is in a current call. Seems like the phone will let me finish a call before shutting down due to heat. Hopefully the app can throw the phone into airplane mode immediately when the call ends. But if that exception is too difficult, the primary functionality would still be worth it.
This is my first app request, so I don't know if I'm being specific enough. I also know that other people can use this app. Hopefully someone out there can help us all out.
Thanks

There is an app called tasker that should be able to do that for you. At least untill someone can build an app for you.
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Not sure what your doing to over heat the phone, but I would try to fix the problem instead of usong a work around. It sounds like you have an inefficient kernel or its too far ovrrclocked. I'm thinking continual use in this overheated state will cause unrepairable damage to your phone.

Just looked at Tasker, from what I can tell it does not have Temperature as an event.
And the problem cause is not my kernel, from what I can tell. I've tried a few different kernels on a couple different mods. I've tried underclocking and under volting. Nothing seems to help. From what I've read, I might have a faulty sensor.

I had a hell of a time with cm7 and the jit compiler. Poor battery life and running warm even when browsing the web. Not sure what your running but it may be as easy as tapping a checkbox.

siris420 said:
Not sure what your doing to over heat the phone, but I would try to fix the problem instead of usong a work around. It sounds like you have an inefficient kernel or its too far ovrrclocked. I'm thinking continual use in this overheated state will cause unrepairable damage to your phone.
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It's a hardware cpu sensor calibration issue, according to Sprint tech Lokifish Mars. Search for my thread in Evo General.
I avoid shutdowns by keeping battery temp < 39°C.

mine overheated when i was charging and using hotspot/tether, somehow after i wiped my sd card and everything else and installed the rom again it never overheated again.
somehow the more apps get installed the more the chanse some of them be are gonna be running in the backgroung, who knows...

omenovi said:
mine overheated when i was charging and using hotspot/tether, somehow after i wiped my sd card and everything else and installed the rom again it never overheated again.
somehow the more apps get installed the more the chanse some of them be are gonna be running in the backgroung, who knows...
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Some phones overheat and shutdown regardless of installed apps, rom, or kernel. My Evo consistently shutsdown at 39°C, even when running bare aosp w/zero apps installed.
It's only an issue for me when playing games, using the phone in high ambient temps, and flashing mods. Keeping the battery & cpu cool with a fan or ac vent is the only way I can flash mods or roms.

Elixir is a free app on the market, you can make customizable widgets (1x1 up to 4x1), one for temp, the other to toggle airplane mode.
I use it to monitor temp, battery, cpu freq, and cpu %, and to keep an eye on ram.
Works well.

[INFO]Improve battery life when idle

Hey guys, I was getting terrible battery life when the phone is idle. I looked into it to see what was going on. First off, I am on the stock rooted deodex'd ROM that scrosler posted. The biggest problem was an app I installed called Light Flow Lite, it controls your LED. It had over 6 hours of wakelock today. Removed it, not worth it at all.
The second thing I found that was interesting was after that, the phone STILL wasn't hitting deep sleep. I poked around in BetterBatteryStats and didn't find anything in there that would explain that. I then ran a "top" (in terminal or adb shell, type top -m 5 -t). Everything looked normal, nothing crazy. But I turned the screen off and let it run for a few seconds. I got a massive spike in CPU (anywhere from 15-35%) for system_server with the thread "WindowManagerPo" (which is likely short for WindowManagerPolicy).
I did some searching and it turns out that there is a bug with auto rotation that causes this. Essentially, the sensors don't stop looking for orientation change when the screen is off. I found reports of this in the Nexus S forums, GS3 forums, etc. This leads me to believe it is a Samsung kernel issue, since that's the least common denominator when it comes to the phones that had this issue. If you don't use auto rotation, you probably aren't encountering this issue (but keep reading for some good info below!) But I use auto rotation, how can I fix this?
Download an app called Auto Rotate Auto Lock. This app will turn off auto rotation when your screen turns off and enable it back when you turn the screen back on. This looks like this should really help to combat this bug and it handy for people like me who like auto rotation but don't want to have battery life suffer from something as stupid as this. I have verified that my phone now does enter Deep Sleep easily, and it hadn't hit that all day!
I also recommend an app called CPU Spy Plus (XDA thread). This app shows some very valuable information about your processor. You never want to see "Deep Sleep" under Unused CPU States as this means your phone isn't sleeping and is wasting battery!
It would also be good to download BetterBatteryStats (XDA Thread). This will help you nail down battery drain that you won't see in the stock Battery graph found in Settings. Things or importance are Partial Wakelocks and Alarms.
Monitoring these apps can really help you to increase your battery life on your phone. If anyone else is having bad battery life when idle, please try this out. I'm sure this will help you Feel free to ask questions, I will try to answer them as best as I can!

I have autorotation turned on but not the face orientation sensing. I haven't noticed a significant battery loss, at 19 hours with 10 left according to battery spy, but I'll give this a try and see if it increases it any.

i'll give it a shot. i was wondering how at work it would drain 2-4% an hour but at home with a crappy signal i'd only lose 6% all night.
at work it's in my pocket and at home it's stationary.

madsquabbles said:
i'll give it a shot. i was wondering how at work it would drain 2-4% an hour but at home with a crappy signal i'd only lose 6% all night.
at work it's in my pocket and at home it's stationary.
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I have noticed Google Talk drains batteries when your signed in. By default your phone will sign in. If you don't use TALK, sign-out of the app and you will see increased battery life. Your wont ping the internet as much which saves batteries.

Thanks viperboy I took your suggestion and so far it seems to be helping.

I haven't tried that app yet, however I have definitely noticed an improvement in battery life by disabling auto rotation. Thanks for the info.
THIS NOTE 2 IS SENT FROM A GALAXY WHERE SAMSUNG SPRINTS TO THE TOP, AND JELLY BEANS EAT APPLES!!!!

after a bit of troubleshooting i found that battery monitor widget pro was the cause of my drain. after removing it i went from 2 to 3% an hour to 3% overnight. this really sucks as i love the info bmw colleects. this is the only device i have that suffers drain from the app.

Thanks for the info. I have been losing % 15 battery every night while I'm asleep and was wondering why
...from a Galaxy Note II

-viperboy- said:
Hey guys, I was getting terrible battery life when the phone is idle. I looked into it to see what was going on. First off, I am on the stock rooted deodex'd ROM that scrosler posted. The biggest problem was an app I installed called Light Flow Lite, it controls your LED. It had over 6 hours of wakelock today. Removed it, not worth it at all.
The second thing I found that was interesting was after that, the phone STILL wasn't hitting deep sleep. I poked around in BetterBatteryStats and didn't find anything in there that would explain that. I then ran a "top" (in terminal or adb shell, type top -m 5 -t). Everything looked normal, nothing crazy. But I turned the screen off and let it run for a few seconds. I got a massive spike in CPU (anywhere from 15-35%) for system_server with the thread "WindowManagerPo" (which is likely short for WindowManagerPolicy).
I did some searching and it turns out that there is a bug with auto rotation that causes this. Essentially, the sensors don't stop looking for orientation change when the screen is off. I found reports of this in the Nexus S forums, GS3 forums, etc. This leads me to believe it is a Samsung kernel issue, since that's the least common denominator when it comes to the phones that had this issue. If you don't use auto rotation, you probably aren't encountering this issue (but keep reading for some good info below!) But I use auto rotation, how can I fix this?
Download an app called Auto Rotate Auto Lock. This app will turn off auto rotation when your screen turns off and enable it back when you turn the screen back on. This looks like this should really help to combat this bug and it handy for people like me who like auto rotation but don't want to have battery life suffer from something as stupid as this. I have verified that my phone now does enter Deep Sleep easily, and it hadn't hit that all day!
I also recommend an app called CPU Spy Plus (XDA thread). This app shows some very valuable information about your processor. You never want to see "Deep Sleep" under Unused CPU States as this means your phone isn't sleeping and is wasting battery!
It would also be good to download BetterBatteryStats (XDA Thread). This will help you nail down battery drain that you won't see in the stock Battery graph found in Settings. Things or importance are Partial Wakelocks and Alarms.
Monitoring these apps can really help you to increase your battery life on your phone. If anyone else is having bad battery life when idle, please try this out. I'm sure this will help you Feel free to ask questions, I will try to answer them as best as I can!
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Thanks for the suggestions. I have heard so much about the great battery life, but that has not been my experience. I had a Note 1 and I had no problems. With Note 2, the battery drains to about 1/4 after about 7 hours with limited use. I have turned off auto rotation, lowered the screen brightness, changed auto check settings for email, and don't see much difference. In addition, it seems a shame that I should have to figure out ways to use fewer functions to make battery last for phone calls, since I never had to do that before. Any ideas?

Thank you for this info. I consistently get a full days charge of of my phone but was pretty clueless when it came to what was draining my battery. I've used the rotation lock app and will report my results to see if I get even more remaining battery each day.
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Thanks for the helpful advice Viperboy! I've definitely been having wake lock issues with my phone. Hopefully these apps will help me eliminate the problems.

kat3k said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I have heard so much about the great battery life, but that has not been my experience. I had a Note 1 and I had no problems. With Note 2, the battery drains to about 1/4 after about 7 hours with limited use. I have turned off auto rotation, lowered the screen brightness, changed auto check settings for email, and don't see much difference. In addition, it seems a shame that I should have to figure out ways to use fewer functions to make battery last for phone calls, since I never had to do that before. Any ideas?
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As viperboy mentioned, BetterBatteryStats is your friend. It really will help you figure out why your phone isn't sleeping like it should. It definitely takes some time to monitor and figure out what the readings mean to help point you to the apps or settings that're affecting your battery, but well worth it. I also like having a better understanding of how things work on my phone.

i did a double check on battery monitor widget pro and it started draining my phone again. as soon as i uninstalled it everything was fine again. this is with both cleanrom and blazer. i'll just wait til official support comes and try it again.

-viperboy- said:
Hey guys, I was getting terrible battery life when the phone is idle. I looked into it to see what was going on. First off, I am on the stock rooted deodex'd ROM that scrosler posted. The biggest problem was an app I installed called Light Flow Lite, it controls your LED. It had over 6 hours of wakelock today. Removed it, not worth it at all.
The second thing I found that was interesting was after that, the phone STILL wasn't hitting deep sleep. I poked around in BetterBatteryStats and didn't find anything in there that would explain that. I then ran a "top" (in terminal or adb shell, type top -m 5 -t). Everything looked normal, nothing crazy. But I turned the screen off and let it run for a few seconds. I got a massive spike in CPU (anywhere from 15-35%) for system_server with the thread "WindowManagerPo" (which is likely short for WindowManagerPolicy).
I did some searching and it turns out that there is a bug with auto rotation that causes this. Essentially, the sensors don't stop looking for orientation change when the screen is off. I found reports of this in the Nexus S forums, GS3 forums, etc. This leads me to believe it is a Samsung kernel issue, since that's the least common denominator when it comes to the phones that had this issue. If you don't use auto rotation, you probably aren't encountering this issue (but keep reading for some good info below!) But I use auto rotation, how can I fix this?
Download an app called Auto Rotate Auto Lock. This app will turn off auto rotation when your screen turns off and enable it back when you turn the screen back on. This looks like this should really help to combat this bug and it handy for people like me who like auto rotation but don't want to have battery life suffer from something as stupid as this. I have verified that my phone now does enter Deep Sleep easily, and it hadn't hit that all day!
I also recommend an app called CPU Spy Plus (XDA thread). This app shows some very valuable information about your processor. You never want to see "Deep Sleep" under Unused CPU States as this means your phone isn't sleeping and is wasting battery!
It would also be good to download BetterBatteryStats (XDA Thread). This will help you nail down battery drain that you won't see in the stock Battery graph found in Settings. Things or importance are Partial Wakelocks and Alarms.
Monitoring these apps can really help you to increase your battery life on your phone. If anyone else is having bad battery life when idle, please try this out. I'm sure this will help you Feel free to ask questions, I will try to answer them as best as I can!
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Have you tried the Perseus kernel? I hear the battery life is improved with it. So may be it doesn't have the rotate issue.

I've been using cpu sleeper and I easily get about 30 hours. Looks like the new apk fixed quad core. So when the phone is off it only uses one core and shuts down the other three and lights them back up when you need them.
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ZenInsight said:
Have you tried the Perseus kernel? I hear the battery life is improved with it. So may be it doesn't have the rotate issue.
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I'm on it now, but I haven't looked to see if it fixed the auto rotation bug yet,
rudyrude432 said:
I've been using cpu sleeper and I easily get about 30 hours. Looks like the new apk fixed quad core. So when the phone is off it only uses one core and shuts down the other three and lights them back up when you need them.
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That app is unnecessary. Pegasusq governor already does that by default. Goes to 1 core and 200mhz when screen off, at least that's how my Note 10.1 was. I assume it is the same here since the International GS3, GN 10.1, and GNII basically share the same kernel with a few minor differences.

I think I may try the perseus kernel today to see if it improves battery.. I haven't heard it does.. I just been seeing people do that benchmark stuff with it
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

Interesting... I have a script that reports on CPU freq and, when plugged into USB (maybe the wall charger too, didn't check), it appears that the kernel runs cpu0 and cpu3 all the time, even when screen off. With the phone unplugged, it went to using only cpu0 but didn't cap the freq. It was spending a good amount of time at the higher frequencies even though I had nothing running.

MiguelHogue said:
I think I may try the perseus kernel today to see if it improves battery.. I haven't heard it does.. I just been seeing people do that benchmark stuff with it
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959898&page=5
Post #42

I installed the app to turn the rotation off when the screen is off so far everything good but when I get a call this goes crazy because the screen goes while in call. I know this because I have an smartwatch which it has a notification app and every message that the phone has my watch vibrates with that message and I had a call few minutes ago my watch started vibrating non stop until I hang up.
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battery draining too fast new or old

im on a stock rom not rooted and new battery and old battery both discharge really fast. Totally dead in 5-6hrs light use. Im guessing there is a hardware issue with the phone as this isnt normal. Any ideas?
lets see I did a factory reset after Jellybean update
changed the battery for a new one
biggest power drain is showing up as screen 33-39%
I have the thing on power saving mode and mobile data I turn off when not in use.
only thing I can think of that I didnt try is flashing another radio. But I doubt thats it because ive put it in airplane mode and it still looses power fast.

craig198 said:
im on a stock rom not rooted and new battery and old battery both discharge really fast. Totally dead in 5-6hrs light use. Im guessing there is a hardware issue with the phone as this isnt normal. Any ideas?
lets see I did a factory reset after Jellybean update
changed the battery for a new one
biggest power drain is showing up as screen 33-39%
I have the thing on power saving mode and mobile data I turn off when not in use.
only thing I can think of that I didnt try is flashing another radio. But I doubt thats it because ive put it in airplane mode and it still looses power fast.
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Get Better Battery Stats and check your wake locks. A lot of information in that thread. Might have a rogue app draining you.
Edit: also screen on is always going to be your biggest drain. Keep brightness down as much as you can. App called screen filter is good for achieving lower brightness than system allows. You could try the ktoonsz kernel, undervolted as well. Turning off sounds in settings (key press, vibrate, etc as well). Toggle data and WiFi when not using. These are just some basic suggestions.
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This is my second s3 and the first one never had a problem going 10-12 hrs normal use. Im thinking it is a hardware issue as I did a factory reset and it still persists on fast draining.
Edit.. I just disable google talk maybe that was causing it?

It's not Google Talk. Check your battery and it'll show you what's drainage ng it the most. Also check screen brightness
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Benconquerer said:
It's not Google Talk. Check your battery and it'll show you what's drainage ng it the most. Also check screen brightness
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well after the screen 40% we have android OS @ lower 30%

Do you have an SD-Card in?
I was getting the same battery life, took out my SD-Card, and I'm getting 7 hours on screen time with stock battery.

andybones said:
Do you have an SD-Card in?
I was getting the same battery life, took out my SD-Card, and I'm getting 7 hours on screen time with stock battery.
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lol sd card?? well I tried it anyway and no, it still drains like a pissing racehorse. Ive noticed this phone gets pretty warm sometimes even with light use. Im not sure what is causing this but must be a factor in why the battery life is so poor. When I talk on phone, not very often, the ear piece actually gets hot. Im gonna send this puppy to samsung and see what they can do.

GSam Battery Monitor can offer better details about your battery usage, including wakelocks, cpu usage, etc.. It's more detailed than what Android offers.
I'd also recommend using an AOSP based rom as they include out any carrier/Samsung services that may adversely affect your battery life, particularly in a fringe coverage area or with many sync and push items. I'd also stay away from powersave mode for the time being.
If you want to know for sure, I'd do something like this:
- update PRL on current rom
- wipe and format everything in CWM
- flash rom as per developer suggestions
- wipe battery stats
- boot and do not sign in with your Google account (very important!)
- do not install or restore any apps
- turn off auto-sync and leave data on
- enable auto brightness
- confirm that phone signal is somewhere between -50 and -90dbm
- turn off phone and charge overnight
- turn on in the morning and use normally for the day
- install GSAM if issues persist
Please post back with updates.

It could be a hardware problem also you know.... if something ground off in the phone then the battery will drain faster than anything....I had a n96 with a grounded problem and it use to dead in 4 hrs....

NY Times

Anyone notice problems with the NY Times app recently? I noticed some high network activity out of my Note Pro over the last few days, and dug into it last night. Turned out, my tablet never went to deep sleep, and looking at battery usage, the NY Times app was behind only the OS and System.
I can't uninstall the NY Times, but I can revert to the factory image, and that seems to have put a halt to the network activity, and also the tablet is now going into deep sleep again. So it looks like it was an app update, somewhere along the way?

What's deep sleep as opposed to sleep as opposed to going into airplane mode?? Your posting about the ny times and sleep is difficult to understand.
ericbergan said:
Anyone notice problems with the NY Times app recently? I noticed some high network activity out of my Note Pro over the last few days, and dug into it last night. Turned out, my tablet never went to deep sleep, and looking at battery usage, the NY Times app was behind only the OS and System.
I can't uninstall the NY Times, but I can revert to the factory image, and that seems to have put a halt to the network activity, and also the tablet is now going into deep sleep again. So it looks like it was an app update, somewhere along the way?
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nychotxxx said:
What's deep sleep as opposed to sleep as opposed to going into airplane mode?? Your posting about the ny times and sleep is difficult to understand.
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Not difficult to understand at all, this is apparently a wake lock issue with the application.
Tapping the power button to turn off the screen puts the device in sleep mode but CPU speed still varies as background activity continues. Application processes can place wake locks on the CPU to keep it from going into deep sleep which is the lowest power consumption setting. A device that never goes into deep sleep will experience higher battery drain with the screen off for extended periods than one that does go into deep sleep. Sleep has nothing to do with airplane mode, which turns off all radios and has no direct impact on CPU.
First thing I would try with the NY Times app is turn off all notifications for it. Personally I don't use it and have it frozen so I can't verify the wake lock issue on my device.
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muzzy996 said:
First thing I would try with the NY Times app is turn off all notifications for it. Personally I don't use it and have it frozen so I can't verify the wake lock issue on my device.
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Much better explanation than I could have given, thanks! So wish I could root my tablet (a Verizon...), feel like I'm trying to debug things with both hands tied behind my back!
So far, the NYT problem hasn't come back - can't freeze or uninstall it without root, but have removed it from Magazine UI and basically backed out all updates by restoring it to its factory image and clearing its data. BTW, it was set to only get updates every 4 hours. Obviously it had a different idea.

Yeah I hate it when apps get like that.
It's times like that where I'll use Greenify sparingly to push the misbehaving app into hibernation. Otherwise I'll just let android do it's thing.

A few days ago, I noticed the NY Times app only it's you view 10 articles for free every month. I was going to say, why not trash that garbage? It requires root, though, since it's actually a system app. That is just profoundly stupid.
At least Samsung didn't pick CNN as it's news app, amirite?