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I'm starting to not like this phone

It seems like there's literally no internal storage. Does anyone know exactly how much it is? I have about 10 mb of email, 15 mb of Facebook data, 20 mb of contact storage, and about 5-6 applications installed that are over 1 mb, and somehow the little "Low Space" notification keeps popping up. I already uninstalled so many apps and right now I'm down to the essentials plus 2 games. It's annoying and I don't understand why the internal storage is so low that you can't even install more than 2 apps without it going crazy. My Hero never had this problem and I have 20-30 apps installed on there plus 3 email accounts and I never once saw the "Low Space" notification.

App2SD? Clear cache?

So, youre complaining about an issue that everyone on any Android has if they havent rooted?

Upgrade to Froyo
Move Apllication´s to SD
be happy

It's the biggest problem on all android phones. It's being fixed (if you have group 2.2 youll notice an improvement). But the best solution so far seems to be root. Read into it, and Google things like apps2sd.
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Problem is, at least in my case, most of the apps just don't support installing in SD, like Google maps, Adobe reader, Gmail or even YouTube apps. No use of being in Froyo then.
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pramitroy said:
Problem is, at least in my case, most of the apps just don't support installing in SD, like Google maps, Adobe reader, Gmail or even YouTube apps. No use of being in Froyo then.
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Then Root your phone and use apps2sd!
Make a 1 gig ext3 partition and you have lots of space!

Lets be honest, though. You shouldn't have to root to make your phone do something that should be standard on Android. Not everyone will want to invalidate their warranty

EddyOS said:
Lets be honest, though. You shouldn't have to root to make your phone do something that should be standard on Android. Not everyone will want to invalidate their warranty
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Oh please, quit *****ing. Root process is reversible.
rpimps > bottom line : use the tools available.

phentex said:
Oh please, quit *****ing. Root process is reversible.
rpimps > bottom line : use the tools available.
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Mate, stfu - I've rooted and know full well it's reversible. Was just stating that we shouldn't HAVE to do it, it should be standard. Apple managed to do it with the iPhone so why can't anyone else...you telling me that someone who's not that computer literate** should have to root their phone just to install some more apps??
**NOT saying the OP isn't computer literate, btw

EddyOS said:
Mate, stfu - I've rooted and know full well it's reversible. Was just stating that we shouldn't HAVE to do it, it should be standard. Apple managed to do it with the iPhone so why can't anyone else...you telling me that someone who's not that computer literate** should have to root their phone just to install some more apps??
**NOT saying the OP isn't computer literate, btw
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No no, please don't give Apple credit, Iphone have loads more internal memory than any android device which relies on "external" SD storage. If iphones worked the same way, this limitation would be advertised as a freaking "feature"
Ok so we shouldn't HAVE to do it, but I fully understand Google taking time to think things out. Just plainly installing on the SDcard (i.e. copying apk packages) with no piracy preventing measures is not viable. The froyo way is already a nice step forward. If you want full control, well at least you DO get the opportunity to take full control of your phone through rooting and apps2sd.
Please don't compare to iphone which still doesn't even know what file browsing is

That's what I meant about the iPhone doing it, Apple got it right by cramming the iPhone with internal memory!!! HTC could've easily done the same
Agree with the 'feature' pun, though

Hm, even in my unrooted, old 2.1 days i had more than a few apps installed. 20 MB of Contacts?? How many do you have... a million?
Sorry, even without app2sd i had 30+ apps installed.
Btw, rooting is so easy... Right now i have about 50 apps installed and 105 MB free space.

Hey dude,
I wouldn't advise just rooting your phone on the spur, research it first...
Also upgrade to Froyo, then you get to trnsfer your apps, if thats not enough then download App2sd and if thats not enough then clear cache and if thats not enough delete some apps that you never really use.
Finally IF thats not enough, sell your phone and buy something else...

Sibbi said:
Hm, even in my unrooted, old 2.1 days i had more than a few apps installed. 20 MB of Contacts?? How many do you have... a million?
Sorry, even without app2sd i had 30+ apps installed.
Btw, rooting is so easy... Right now i have about 50 apps installed and 105 MB free space.
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HTC's Quietly Brilliant Contacts management downloads your friend's Google pictures, Facebook pictures and Twitter pictures. Ta-da, magically lost memory.
kalfou said:
Hey dude,
I wouldn't advise just rooting your phone on the spur, research it first...
Also upgrade to Froyo, then you get to trnsfer your apps, if thats not enough then download App2sd and if thats not enough then clear cache and if thats not enough delete some apps that you never really use.
Finally IF thats not enough, sell your phone and buy something else...
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Totally agree that you shouldn't just root without understanding the whole process and what it means. I was troubleshooting two other users that nearly bricked their Desires by rooting improperly.
But back to the OP's comments, I was like him. I rooted because I was running out of space to install apps

same here i struggled with performance when my internal got full even with force 2 SD
i finally gave up and rooted my device, never looked back
a reminder: if you want to root and install a2sd make sure it's done with a full wipe

rpimps said:
It seems like there's literally no internal storage. Does anyone know exactly how much it is? I have about 10 mb of email, 15 mb of Facebook data, 20 mb of contact storage, and about 5-6 applications installed that are over 1 mb, and somehow the little "Low Space" notification keeps popping up. I already uninstalled so many apps and right now I'm down to the essentials plus 2 games. It's annoying and I don't understand why the internal storage is so low that you can't even install more than 2 apps without it going crazy. My Hero never had this problem and I have 20-30 apps installed on there plus 3 email accounts and I never once saw the "Low Space" notification.
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Still and always will be better than a iPhone so be happy
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The Desire is way better than the iPhone. Only thing that keeps people going back to iPhone - is cause they used to it - they don't know what they are missing. iPhone can't take SD card......iPhone SUCKS !!!!!!

Dya know what gets to me? Idiots that spend hundreds of pounds on a device without even researching the device specification, only to end up creating pointless threads, not because there is anything wrong with the device just because they didnt educate themselves about what they were about to buy, any google search will show the desire has a total rom of 500mb, knowing that the system, cache, radio and recovery partitions were going to take a sizeable chunk of that, i fully expected about 150mb of internal storage so i wasnt disapointed
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Rizla-xda said:
The Desire is way better than the iPhone. Only thing that keeps people going back to iPhone - is cause they used to it - they don't know what they are missing. iPhone can't take SD card......iPhone SUCKS !!!!!!
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Well that was a fail of a statement. It sucks because of no micro SD card...I'd rather have internal memory as it's quicker to access anyway. One reason why HD videos on the iPhone are so good. But in the end they are both phones nothing to argue over. Both have good and bad points it's all opinion.

No space

Friend of mines got a WildfireS but keep running out of space on it, theres not many apps installed and the 8Gb card is virtually empty.
I've moved the apps than can be to the SDCard but other than that I'm not really "up" with the phone.
Any ROM's or anything else I can do to improve the situation, its getting to the point where she wants to go back to her old Nokia :lol:

Trig0r said:
Friend of mines got a WildfireS but keep running out of space on it, theres not many apps installed and the 8Gb card is virtually empty.
I've moved the apps than can be to the SDCard but other than that I'm not really "up" with the phone.
Any ROM's or anything else I can do to improve the situation, its getting to the point where she wants to go back to her old Nokia :lol:
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A data2sd rom would be an option or link2sd. Look at the Index thread, there is a link2sd tutorial at the general guide section.

Will see if I can get the phone off her for a few days and give it a tweaking..

Moved the apps that would let me to the SDCard, its out of space again though, something wrong here surely, I know its a cheap device but really, this sucks balls..

Did you "get" more space?
Hi Trig0r,
I have that phone and the problem is that they took too much of the RAM for system files and other junk apps. Its supposed to have 500MB of ram, but we are only allowed about 120MB to install apss.. I rooted my phone and got about 40MB more of memory. Good luck getting space for your friend's phone.
V/R
PV

Trig0r said:
Friend of mines got a WildfireS but keep running out of space on it, theres not many apps installed and the 8Gb card is virtually empty.
I've moved the apps than can be to the SDCard but other than that I'm not really "up" with the phone.
Any ROM's or anything else I can do to improve the situation, its getting to the point where she wants to go back to her old Nokia :lol:
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best bet is to root and install link2sd if possible. i've done this on VM USA, and after removing the crap apps that came on the phone, i have almost 60 apps installed and have 43.08mb free on internal.

Back on this phone again, its running
2.3.3
2.1
1.33.206.5
Gonna see if I can have it for a few days.

Got it now, ota'd to 2.3.5 still sucks balls, gonna drop a custom on it if I can get an unlocked bootloader..
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pedro.velez said:
Hi Trig0r,
I have that phone and the problem is that they took too much of the RAM for system files and other junk apps. Its supposed to have 500MB of ram, but we are only allowed about 120MB to install apss.. I rooted my phone and got about 40MB more of memory. Good luck getting space for your friend's phone.
V/R
PV
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ROM, not RAM...

I have the exact same problem on stock...can you please tell me the most stable sense rom with link2sd built in?

[S-ON] remove/disable crap from htc

Seen on the main XDA page, edited it for Wildfire S: Cleantool
This tool disables HTC bloatware. It keeps taking space on internal memory (APK is still there) but the advantage is that there's more free ram, less background processes and a cleaner app drawer. This way, you should multitask longer and maybe a bit better battery life.
Also device will start up a bit faster.
It disables:
HTC facebook
HTC peep
HTC friend stream
HTC search app
HTC stocks
HTC greader
update version 2
Cleaned it furher up! If you use another launcher then stock, you can use option disable Sense.
download
Instructions:
- unzip to desktop
- be sure HTC drivers are installed, here they are.
- enable usb debugging: go to settings, applications, development and select usb debugging.
- connect phone to pc, select charging mode.
- run the cleantool.2.1.1.bat file.
- select first option, then second option.
- select then reboot and disconnect phone.
For going back to stock: go to settings, storage and choose reset data option.
Credits to scrosler
Hit thanks don't say thanks!
Post a comment to keep this thread alive!

This method delete the apk from /system/app permanently with s-on, too?
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ONeill123 said:
This method delete the apk from /system/app permanently with s-on, too?
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if you would just READ his post ....

And does it stay that way after reboot?
EDIT :Yes, I see.
Can we choose what to disable?
EDIT 2: Don't see any diference in phone memory.
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:s aren't most of those HTC apps less than 100Kb anyways? I wouldn't have thought removing them would save much space? :s

thanks!!!
just an update.
while i was on temp root i tried to install superuser.apk
and titanum backup.. i can now freeze apps!! this is exciting!

Why the double post Henry?

aperture said:
thanks!!!
just an update.
while i was on temp root i tried to install superuser.apk
and titanum backup.. i can now freeze apps!! this is exciting!
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I must try this, with temp root.
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Thanks
Its working fine, now more free RAM earlier in my WFS showing RAm usages 150MB after applying this tool 200+ MB available free RAM.

victorharsh said:
Its working fine, now more free RAM earlier in my WFS showing RAm usages 150MB after applying this tool 200+ MB available free RAM.
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Hmm, mine stayed the same. Before and after applying this tool, around 150 mb.
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No.12 said:
Hmm, mine stayed the same. Before and after applying this tool, around 150 mb.
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Guys, I am sorry but - do you have any idea how to use your phone ?!? 150MB free ?!? WTF dude
At the moment I have 258MB free with S-On Wildfire S, installed bunch of software and left with 35MB free phone memory, all home screens are full of widgets ...
The less I have ever saw is around 190MB free...
Could you please explain to me and the comunity how to NOT use our android phones please ?
P.S. - BTW I am using an antivirus software too which is permanently activated and checking, and now have 259MB free and 131MB used even checked through settings which consumes another 11MB RAM...
P.S. 2 - thats with DATA on, accounts - gmail(calendar, mail, contacts), live mail, contacts, htc sense, weather, twitter, fliker, facebook, google+ = all is set to sync, what else ?

Thanks for sharing this, Henry.
I don't really know if this tool will bring any advantage to me.
Actually I don't have any of those apps (bloatware) running in memory so I guess that it's just good news for some roms, not all.
On the 2.3.5 RUU those apps aren't loaded into RAM unless you use the widgets or open the apps at your will.
This should be nice for earlier/other ROMS that load all that crap on phone startup.
When my phone was branded to Vodafone I had stocks, peep, facebook for sense and other crap occupying memory.
Now without running the Clean Tool I have 267MB free memory for the system and 80MB free for apps.
Considering that I have installed a lot of stuff including: App Monster Pro, GPS software, Poweramp, musiXmatch, ES File Explorer, Google Goggles, Traffic Counter, Wikidroid, YouTube latest version, Battery Indicator Pro, Google Street View, Facebook, AK Notepad, Fast Discharge, History Eraser, Voice Search, Google Translate, Klondike, Gmail latest version, JuiceDefender Ultimate and other small apps I think I cant complain.

Almost 60 downloads keep on going!
Great to see it works!

Yes, I know how to use phone, thanks for asking. :banghead:
I have pretty the same app running, but again, only 130-160 mb available. And that's after using advanced task killer.
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No.12 said:
Yes, I know how to use phone, thanks for asking. :banghead:
I have pretty the same app running, but again, only 130-160 mb available. And that's after using advanced task killer.
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No.12, I strongly recommend you don't use any task killer on your phone. Since Froyo (at least) the O.S. keeps reopening apps all the time.
This is crap I know but that's the way to make some apps load faster.
The task killer will only kill your battery because the phone will spend lots of time closing and opening apps again and again.
Memory access drains battery at a very quick pace.
I know this from my own experience. When I stopped using task killers the battery started lasting much longer. Already happened on my defunct HTC Desire...

But won't I get to the point where memory usage will increase so much and phone will become slow?
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No.12 said:
But won't I get to the point where memory usage will increase so much and phone will become slow?
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Eventually that will happen if you don't restart your phone once in a while...
I had two HTC phones that had less memory than the WFS. A Tattoo and a Wildfire. On those memory ran out and made the phone slow.
That never happened to me on the WFS... but I have a habit of restarting the phone every week and clear app cache with History Eraser frequently. This helps for sure.
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Thanks for this Henry! I'm now Senseless. xD [Pun]
P.S. Wildfire (Buzz)'s screen is too small, sucks.

stocks app is still there why is superuser installed now on my phone? is something i can do with him?

zegi69 said:
stocks app is still there why is superuser installed now on my phone? is something i can do with him?
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Superuser is installed because you are temp rooted. You can always uninstall.
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[Q] Few Questions before buying the phone

I have had HTC Desire for 2 years now and I am planning to buy this phone in couple of weeks. I have few questions if someone could answer them for me.
1. How is the loud speaker feature? Is it better than the Desire?
2. Out of 32GB memory, how much is available after all the preloaded system apps?
3. Since there is no SD slot, how an individual would transfer the data from PC to the phone? can an individual use a USB cable and place them in designated folder of the phone?

rangeela2331 said:
I have had HTC Desire for 2 years now and I am planning to buy this phone in couple of weeks. I have few questions if someone could answer them for me.
1. How is the loud speaker feature? Is it better than the Desire?
2. Out of 32GB memory, how much is available after all the preloaded system apps?
3. Since there is no SD slot, how an individual would transfer the data from PC to the phone? can an individual use a USB cable and place them in designated folder of the phone?
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1. (My last phone was a Desire) The speaker is A LOT better, it sounds even better then the speakers in my laptop.
2. 25GB left. (+ You get 25 GB free with Dropbox, which you can use for your documents,photos,video)
3. Through Dropbox is the easiest way, you get 25 GB free storage which makes transfering files very easy to do. (And if 25 isn't enouf you can always buy more/also use Box which offers another free 50 GB.) USB transfer also works, but believe me once you get used to Dropbox you don't want anything els. When I take a picture on my phone it is a few seconds later already on my Dropbox account available for all my other devices.

Thanks.

H-Cim said:
2. 25GB left. (+ You get 25 GB free with Dropbox, which you can use for your documents,photos,video)
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I saw in a review that only 2GB is available for installing apps. Is this going to be a problem? The only thing I really disliked about my Desire was the dramatically limited space for apps and I don't really want to fall into that again.

psinno said:
I saw in a review that only 2GB is available for installing apps. Is this going to be a problem? The only thing I really disliked about my Desire was the dramatically limited space for apps and I don't really want to fall into that again.
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Can someone confirm this if only 2GB is available for installing apps?

rangeela2331 said:
Can someone confirm this if only 2GB is available for installing apps?
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I should have said that indeed, there is 2GB dedicated for installing apps but you can move pretty much any app to the "SD CARD" which has 25 GB of storage. My apologies for the confusing answer the first time.
PS : Keep in mind that within the 6 months pretty much all apps will be optimised for "Move to SD-Card".
PS2: Since all the storage is located on one physical storage unit (as far as I know?) I think devs might be able to make the 2GB partition a 10 (or any number) GB partition. But you better ask this to a real developper.

H-Cim said:
I should have said that indeed, there is 2GB dedicated for installing apps but you can move pretty much any app to the "SD CARD" which has 25 GB of storage. My apologies for the confusing answer the first time.
PS : Keep in mind that within the 6 months pretty much all apps will be optimised for "Move to SD-Card".
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Call me paranoid but after the Desire I am a bit wary of moving apps to sd being some magical fix. It didn't seem to help me that much when I was HTC stock (pre root and roming). I thought the point of Android switching to MTP was to make all the space available for apps.

psinno said:
Call me paranoid but after the Desire I am a bit wary of moving apps to sd being some magical fix. It didn't seem to help me that much when I was HTC stock (pre root and roming). I thought the point of Android switching to MTP was to make all the space available for apps.
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Yeah I had that same problem with the Desire, some apps didn't work after moving them to SD. But I think app-devs will start optimizing this, apps become larger and pretty much every phone has very limited memory (without the SD-Card).
+ I'm pretty sure Devs can make the 2GB partition larger, if you root the device and use a costum rom that is.

[Q] Low phone memory htc desire

HI, im really sorry if this has been posted already but i did look and all i found was for other phones and not mine.
So my phone has had the low memory icon since December 31st, 2011 and has only gone away a few times. I clear the cache, took off photos, even cleared out my music and did a factory reset...all the while took off all the apps and put them back on one by one. Now my phone has decided to deny me access to my photo's, music and text messages. yesterday my internal phone memory was 10.93 and this morning it is 8.88. My sd card is 8 gigs and has 4.77 available space. I went to the telus store and the representative told me just to force stop applications running which I do that all the time and even go to the manage applications and stop the large ones. and I spoke to multiple representatives and all they would do if I sent it away would be update the software and do a factory reset. my phone wont even update any application....
please help me!!! I'm ready to throw my phone against a brick wall.
THANK YOU
MELISSA

I think that this hasn't been asked yet. Furthermore, in no case there are a billion of custom ROMS whose primary task was to circumvent this issue.
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Have a look in the development section of this forum. There are custom roms (phone software) that allow apps to run from your memory card rather than the very limited phone memory. This will give you 5 times or more amount of space
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Unfortunately you have to start a root and install a modded rom.
The Htc desire has this big problem. You can install apps only in the internal memory (about 520mb).
The modded roms allow you to install apps also in the SD card with (virtual) unlimited space.
Tom

tomtomxxx said:
Unfortunately you have to start a root and install a modded rom.
The Htc desire has this big problem. You can install apps only in the internal memory (about 520mb).
The modded roms allow you to install apps also in the SD card with (virtual) unlimited space.
Tom
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The Desire has only 150 MB Internal Storage (/data-partition).

MatDrOiD said:
The Desire has only 150 MB Internal Storage (/data-partition).
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It has about 500mb, but 350 occupied by the sense data...
So you're right... Only 150 mb...:sly:
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