Straight Talk ATT sim VS. true ATT plan ? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

Is there a network difference between Straight Talk with an ATT sim, vs a true real ATT plan ?
I am looking at getting the Note 2 off contract for $649, and currently on Straight Talk ATT sim with my international One , but I do have issues with Straight Talk, and not sure if I would have those exact same issues, if I signed up with a true real plan directly with AT&T themselves ?
- Some people tell me, they try call me, and it goes straight to voice mail, or won't go through to me. Clients tell me they tried calling, but I not answer. But I never even seen those calls as missed at all. So that is strange.
- Another issue with ST I have is, is group messages rarely if ever go through. I have to send individual texts to one person at a time to make sure they get it. When I send to two or three people at the same time, it's like 50/50 if it goes through. And picture texts take forever to go through, most of time only like half actually get sent.

Just to add to this. I spoke to a family friend who is an account executive with AT&T on pricing and plans.
I found this strange, he said if I go on contract with AT&T the Note 2 is $299, but even if I buy the phone outright for the full $649, that will not lower my monthly plan, would still be the same he said. I thought the $299 was a subsidized price, you are paying for the phone over the course of the two year plan, so shouldn't buying the phone for full retail price out of contract, give me a lower monthly bill, since I would not be subsidizing the phone ?
He said best plan now for two on a Family / Shared plan is $150, includes; unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, and 4GB data shared.
My guy replied;
Correct the $649 price, you would be month to month, no contract. Taking the subsidy that AT&T offers would lock you into a 2 year contract. But the monthly bill would still be the same @ $150/month. So the only deal you get for buying it out full retail of $649, over $299, is not being in a contract, but still the same monthly bill.
For that, I may as well pay full retail, and just stick with Straight Talk, for two phones is $97.50 / Month. Why go to AT&T for $162/ Month, if paying the same $649 for the phone ? Am I missing something here ? Sure for the $162 I get 4G LTE, and supposedly the real true AT&T network, that he says is much better than ST, but is there truly a difference in network between Straight Talk's ATT sim, vs the real AT&T contract ?

I thought with Straight Talk you do not have access to LTE.

homegeek said:
I thought with Straight Talk you do not have access to LTE.
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That is correct, you get HSPA+ only on Straight Talk.
But is LTE and going on the true AT&T network worth the extra $ ? My bill now is $97 w/tax, and on AT&T would go up to $162 w/tax. Is the increase of 70% ?
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Zorachus said:
Just to add to this. I spoke to a family friend who is an account executive with AT&T on pricing and plans.
I found this strange, he said if I go on contract with AT&T the Note 2 is $299, but even if I buy the phone outright for the full $649, that will not lower my monthly plan, would still be the same he said. I thought the $299 was a subsidized price, you are paying for the phone over the course of the two year plan, so shouldn't buying the phone for full retail price out of contract, give me a lower monthly bill, since I would not be subsidizing the phone ?
He said best plan now for two on a Family / Shared plan is $150, includes; unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, and 4GB data shared.
My guy replied;
Correct the $649 price, you would be month to month, no contract. Taking the subsidy that AT&T offers would lock you into a 2 year contract. But the monthly bill would still be the same @ $150/month. So the only deal you get for buying it out full retail of $649, over $299, is not being in a contract, but still the same monthly bill.
For that, I may as well pay full retail, and just stick with Straight Talk, for two phones is $97.50 / Month. Why go to AT&T for $162/ Month, if paying the same $649 for the phone ? Am I missing something here ? Sure for the $162 I get 4G LTE, and supposedly the real true AT&T network, that he says is much better than ST, but is there truly a difference in network between Straight Talk's ATT sim, vs the real AT&T contract ?
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What is subsidizing the phone is the 2 year contract, not the actual plan. They figure if you are locked in for 2 years, then you are repaying the phone costs no matter the plan you have.
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I have my gnote2 on ST and pay about 48 ish tax included on the 45/month plan.
I get data speeds at a consistent 2.5-4mbps with hspa+ and ever so slightly lower on 3g.
There is no lte but honestly is it worth another almost 70 bucks for a little more speed and stuck in a 2 year contract?
Hell No.
Im very happy with what I have
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My Wife and I need Unlimited minutes and unlimited texts. We use our smartphones, for phone calls too, which seems unheard today to some people, to me a smartphone is a phone #1 most importantly.
For business during the workday, I use maybe 2000+ minutes a month, my Wife uses 1000 minutes during the weekdays month.
So on Straight Talk for two people it is $97/Month unlimited x 24 months = $2,328, plus buying the Note II off contract @ $649 x 2 phones = $1,298. Grand Total = $3,626 over two years
On AT&T, best unlimited plan for two people w/tax is $162/ month x 24 months = $3,888, plus buying two Note 2's subsidized @ $299 x 2 = $598. Grand Total = $4,486 over two years.
Straight Talk, plus paying full price for the smartphone is a HUGE savings, over the course of 24 months, almost $1,000 cheaper. The upfront cost buying the Note 2 full retail is the biggest hit, but then saving almost $70/Month is a big deal x 24 months. Is LTE and true AT&T service worth that extra cost over Straight Talk ATT SIM ?

If I were you I would stick with straight talk. LTE, based on my experience, is nothing to ride home about.
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Android_Noob_2k12 said:
If I were you I would stick with straight talk. LTE, based on my experience, is nothing to ride home about.
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Just left ATT store with brand new white Note 2 for $649, will stick my Straight Talk ATT sim in after rooting and installing new ROM
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I see that net10 has unlimited plans now to u can get 4 lines for around 170 a month. Is There a difference in straight talk and net10?
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I see that net10 has unlimited plans now to u can get 4 lines for around 170 a month. Is There a difference in straight talk and net10?
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Net 10 is garbage
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Don't they use the same att towers
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Don't they use the same att towers
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It depends where you are. In Southern California I use Straight Talk only unlocked international S3 and international One X. I average 5-7MB down. Now Simple Mobile $50 unlimited everything I was averaging 6-9MB down bit also 3-4MB up. I have been told Net 10 is not too good
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Currently have a Galaxy Nexus pre-ordered on Bell on a 3 yr contract should i switch?

Hey Everyone,
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus pre-ordered on Bell on a three year contract ($185 and $50/month for 500mb of data + 150 minutes). I found out that Mobilicity is also a GSM network that will work with the Galaxy Nexus and the price per month is only $17.50/month (for unlimited data, unlimited local calling and caller ID!) but the only downside is that many people report that the network drops often and there is no HSPA+ speeds. I know this may seem like a REALLY stupid question to ask, but do you guys think I should cancel the order, and then re-order the Galaxy Nexus unlocked for $800? (Taxes + cancellation fee). I mean with the network not supporting HSPA+ and the network itself not being supported in some areas in Canada (although I don't travel much and according to the coverage map I'm fully supported), is it really worth it from switching from my current order with Bell on a 3 year contract to Mobilicity?
Note: I realize its a fairly stupid question, but I haven't been thinking straight for the past few days and your comments will be extremely appreciated.
I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around ~$700 shipped. So for most in his situation it'd be more like ~$1420 for 2 years + phone. And you got a good deal on your SGSII, as T-mo advertises it for $229. So we can say most people's annual cost in your situation is ~$1670.
So if we go with real-world math its ~$1420 vs. ~$1670....
Not to mention that you're on a contract, and he isn't. Some people don't like being in a contract and that's worth it for them.
Yea I'm a heavy data user.... so I thought. But looking at several past invoices I realized I only use about 200 minutes and about 1.5-2gb a month data. I utilize wifi at work, work, and hotels when I can.
I pay $60 a month on T-Mobile for 1000 minutes and 5gb cap.
Buying the phone outright and using the Nexus on a cheap plan (Simple Mobile or Walmart special) is the way to go.
I also have a Verizon blackberry through work. I'm ditching my personal line, buying the Nexus on a new contract price on the corporate account and saving my money.
500mb of data would kill me... especially if there are overages and penalties.
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Towle said:
I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around $700 shipped.
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Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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Towle said:
Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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Look at my post again for a better breakdown... And even if he's paying 10% sales tax on his monthly purchases (there's no carrier fees involved with a pre-pay plan), that's only another $72 over 2 years.
That walmart/T-mo prepay play is an amazing deal. I'm looking to switch to it myself from my EM+ plan.
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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pinky up i need that plan!!
The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan (when comparing apples to apples with the plans). The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan. The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I'm on someones employee t-mobile plan : ) 2k minutes my faves unlimited txt web tethering and insurance for $10 a month : )
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Towle said:
I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I simply covered the fact that most people are buying their Nexus' for ~$700, and T-mobile advertises the SGSII for $229.
That aside, I think his statement still holds strong. You've obviously crunched the numbers but most don't. Most people don't realize that there are fantastic off contract or pre-pay options that can save them $100's per year. Especially if they're coming from Verizon or AT&T, we're talking about moving from ~$100 per month to ~$30.
Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Hopefully it will be unlocked from Bell. The Nexus S was, and some people have reported Bell reps saying the Galaxy Nexus will be as well.
You should ask Bell for 6 GB though. I talked to a rep and told him that Rogers was offering me 6 GB for the 500 MB price (unadvertised, but it was all over mobile sites a week or two ago), and asked if Bell could do the same for me if I was signing a 3-year contract. He said they would. It's common for Bell and Rogers to offer the 6 GB at times... ask for it, and if you're signing a 3-year contract you might just get it. Why have only 500 MB if you can get 6 GB for the same price?
Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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I can confirm that the Bell GN is unlocked. Just popped a Telus sim in and it worked.

[Q] Best carrier for Florida, bringing a Galaxy Nexus GSM

Hey all.
I'm going to Florida in June for just over three weeks and am wondering about carriers.
What carrier will work best with a GSM Galaxy Nexus and provide sufficient coverage to where I'm going? (Miami / Key West / Daytona Beach / Hollywood / Tampa / Orlando and roads inbetween).
What I want is to get a refill card, stick it in my phone and have some kind of data plan on it as well. 500MB or so for the whole duration.
Where do I turn? AT&T ?
Somewhere else?
Data speed isn't the most crucial, better to have it working than working fast in limited areas if you know what I mean.
Thanx in advance
// Stefan
There's a big thread here about Prepaid service on the galaxy nexus.. you should check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
if you only going to be here for three weeks close to a month you might as well get a prepaid plan for like $30 bucks a month with 500mb-2gb a data then just cancel it. without that all carriers will charge you like 50cents per kbs.. its no credit check needed btw. just read that thread
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There's a big thread here about Prepaid service on the galaxy nexus.. you should check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
if you only going to be here for three weeks close to a month you might as well get a prepaid plan for like $30 bucks a month with 500mb-2gb a data then just cancel it. without that all carriers will charge you like 50cents per kbs.. its no credit check needed btw. just read that thread
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Thanx a bunch.
Sounds like what I should do!
// Stefan
$50 at ATT should get you unlimited nationwide text+ 250 minutes + 500MB data. Plus potentially the price of the sim card depending on where you get it activated.
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If I were you, I'll go with AT&T.
I spend about 2 weeks in Orlando every year.
I have an AT&T GoPhone SIM that I load up. For $2/day, you get unlimited calls in the U.S., unlimited SMS (and long-distance to Canada is about 10c/min I think). You can add 500MB of data for $25.
Now, that said, I can tell you that, based on my personal experience, AT&T's coverage in/around Walt Disney World and Universal Studios sucks big time.
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I live in south Florida and I have tmobile. I really like it down here, I never really lose service anywhere!
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FWIW, i Live in Orlando.
i have friends on AT&T, T-mobile, and Sprint.....and no one ever complains about coverage. so you are pretty much all set in orlando no matter who you go with.
Att owns an enormous amount of spectrum in florida, most of any other carrier or state. So i think att typically is good there...
I travel to Florida regularly from the UK and I use t-mobiles's pre paid plan. $3 a day gets unlimited calls and texts - US numbers - and 200mb of data.
Its usually more than enough for emails, whatsapp, Google's excellent navigation etc.
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Guys (and any potential girls)!
Thanx a lot for all the info and help you've given me.
From what I read here it's basically:
Go with either of the big two (AT&T/Tmobile) and choose whichever suits me best.
Look at prices in the thread linked in the beginning of this thread and pick one.
Can't be easier than that.
Probably gonna go with Tmobile's "$60/mo unlim min unlim text 2GB".
I'm assuming I can just pop into any Tmobile store (if they have stores?) ?
// Stefan
Go to Wal-Mart, electronics section and you can get the TMobile Unlimited pre paid for what is it $45 somebody help me out on price I think its $45 USD.
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Go to Wal-Mart, electronics section and you can get the TMobile Unlimited pre paid for what is it $45 somebody help me out on price I think its $45 USD.
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Walmart has TMobile prepaid unlimited text, 100 voice minutes, and unlimited days (5 GB 4 G speed, after at 3 Go believe) for $30.
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Walmart has TMobile prepaid unlimited text, 100 voice minutes, and unlimited days (5 GB 4 G speed, after at 3 Go believe) for $30.
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Thanx. That is an option as well. Hm. Do they have only that one at Walmart or do they have the other options as well ? (The $60 one I wrote about above for instance).
Now to find a Walmart somewhere between MIA and Key West and I'm set
EDIT: Walmart Supercenter
33501 S Dixie Hwy
Florida City, FL 33034
// Stefan
If you are looking for a budget go with T-Mobile, if you are looking for coverage, go with AT&T.
I live in Miami, and AT&T has better coverage than T-Mobile. I spend most of the summer at the Keys and AT&T has a lot more coverage down there as well. Is not that T-Mobile is bad but if you plan on going to the keys, you are going to find a lot of dead spots, while in Miami it is very solid.
Note: I was a T-Mobile customer for 5 years before switching to Verizon on November.

[POLL]Which provider do you use on unlocked Gnex?

Curiosity mostly, but I plan on dumping verizon soon and getting on the prepaid train.
T-Mobile Prepaid.
My past experience with Pre-paid is the network signal is weaker, I use Cincinnati Bell wireless and they told me I had to get a contract plan to get better service. This was years ago, not sure how pre-paid is these days, would love to find out more anbout it.
Optimus pre paid
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My past experience with Pre-paid is the network signal is weaker, I use Cincinnati Bell wireless and they told me I had to get a contract plan to get better service. This was years ago, not sure how pre-paid is these days, would love to find out more anbout it.
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That's a great post. I have a well paying job but even I can't justify 100+ bucks a month for verizon, much less the verizon gnex. I will probably be joining the GNex with straight talk. Even though I will miss verizon customer service, I think I can deal with paying half that.
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Great article, thanks bud. But I don't think it's for me. I pay $260 a month for 3000 min. on 5 business phones shared and unlimited everything else, that includes insurance on all my phones,. Probably gonna drop the insurance. My contract is up in November and I am about to buy a GNex, so not sure what I'm gonna do.
T-Mobile: 2 lines, unlimited talk, text, and 5gb of data (before throttle) for both. Total after taxes comes to $124/month.
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LibertyMonger said:
Great article, thanks bud. But I don't think it's for me. I pay $260 a month for 3000 min. on 5 business phones shared and unlimited everything else, that includes insurance on all my phones,. Probably gonna drop the insurance. My contract is up in November and I am about to buy a GNex, so not sure what I'm gonna do.
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For large numbers of business phones (or large family plans), you're almost always better off with a shared/contract plan, unfortunately. When you need to manage multiple phones/upgrades/shared minutes, contract plans really help.
Has anyone had any experience with Pure Talk? I am out of luck with tmobile. AT&T is the only signal choice I get unfortunately.
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Has anyone had any experience with Pure Talk? I am out of luck with tmobile. AT&T is the only signal choice I get unfortunately.
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i use straight talk at&t. i had t-mo postpaid & made the switch. in my area, (westchester, ny), straight talk at&t provides me with service in places t-mo didn't, however, data speeds are considerably slower for me. t-mo i consistently saw speeds averaging 10mbps/3mbps vs. straight talk at&t averaging around 3-5mbps/1-2mbps. the speeds are bearable & for $45/month (vs. $100 on t-mo), i really can't complain. good price, good service. have had no problems refilling on a month-to-month basis via their website.

Why waiting Note II USA Version?

Hi, sorry i just want to know why a lot people like Note 2 US version? And they're waiting AT&T or T-Mobile version. So they want to sacrifice high money monthly bill to get LTE? Or something else? I'm apologize i dont mean to offend you guys, i just recommend using STRAIGHT TALK, it works because StraightTalk using AT&T network. Right now i'm using Note 1 with Straight Talk. Only $45 per month (clear without any taxes, by OnLine payment). If you buy 6 month/1 year package will be cheaper(total each month). Remember Straight Talk is NOT LTE/4G, but for me as long we can play smoothly HQ high quality YouTube then that's will be enough. So you guys can save money, instead HIGH monthly bill from AT&T. So we may get Note 2 International version using Straight Talk. Sorry my English is not perfectly. Peace out, dude.
There are a few reasons:
1) straight talk coverage isn't nearly as large as the coverage of AT&T
2) You don't want the AT&T network. There are plenty of areas where service X is better than AT&T.
I happen to live in an AT&T dead zone. And the international network basically only works on AT&T (unless you give up 3g for t-mobile)
3) Some people do do a lot of streaming and want LTE
4) AT&T doesn't give you a discount on plans if you are off contract,
So if you are going to be on AT&T anyway, you might as well have them help pay for the phone.
5) If you want repair/warranty work, it's much less hassle to buy it in a local store.
6) Local stores may let you try out a phone for 30 days, if you aren't sure.
7) Many people don't even know about straight talk
T-mobile has pay as you go plans which are cheaper than on-contract plans. Unfortunately the international note doesn't work on those plans.
If I didn't live in a dead zone, I would do simply mobile for sure. But I do, so I'm going to buy the t-mobile phone (in full),
and get the cheap monthly 4g plan. It's my cheapest option by far.
- Frank
I'm waiting for the T-Mobile version because from what I've read it is in the international version. I guess we'll have more details once the phones are actually out there.
LOL, I alone pay $35 a month on AT&T under a family plan. Which only includes the stupid 2GB Data allowance and unlimited text. With very little shared minutes (I don't talk to much unless the recipient is on AT&T and or on a mobile phone. And weekends is free on voice.).
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Hi, sorry i just want to know why a lot people like Note 2 US version? And they're waiting AT&T or T-Mobile version. So they want to sacrifice high money monthly bill to get LTE? Or something else? I'm apologize i dont mean to offend you guys, i just recommend using STRAIGHT TALK, it works because StraightTalk using AT&T network. Right now i'm using Note 1 with Straight Talk. Only $45 per month (clear without any taxes, by OnLine payment). If you buy 6 month/1 year package will be cheaper(total each month). Remember Straight Talk is NOT LTE/4G, but for me as long we can play smoothly HQ high quality YouTube then that's will be enough. So you guys can save money, instead HIGH monthly bill from AT&T. So we may get Note 2 International version using Straight Talk. Sorry my English is not perfectly. Peace out, dude.
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gsm is crap. we need cdma. otherwise there's nothing! just a phone and never any signals.
bongbongcong said:
Hi, sorry i just want to know why a lot people like Note 2 US version? And they're waiting AT&T or T-Mobile version. So they want to sacrifice high money monthly bill to get LTE? Or something else? I'm apologize i dont mean to offend you guys, i just recommend using STRAIGHT TALK, it works because StraightTalk using AT&T network. Right now i'm using Note 1 with Straight Talk. Only $45 per month (clear without any taxes, by OnLine payment). If you buy 6 month/1 year package will be cheaper(total each month). Remember Straight Talk is NOT LTE/4G, but for me as long we can play smoothly HQ high quality YouTube then that's will be enough. So you guys can save money, instead HIGH monthly bill from AT&T. So we may get Note 2 International version using Straight Talk. Sorry my English is not perfectly. Peace out, dude.
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I am thinking of going to straight Talk myself. So I was going to buy a gsm phone and buy there sim card. I guess I am confused on which version of the note 2 I should get it know at&tt just opened new 4G in my area but I am sick of contracts and high prices. I am willing to pay 4-5 hundred usd and still save money over a two year period.
So does the note2 international version get released before the USA version?
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Have too
I have too for now.
I am on Verizons network
and dont pull in a whole lot of change monthly,so its a wait for me for bigred to announce,I figure monday or tuesday they will,they had to wait till apple got the opening sales out of the way,..
I'm on Sprint SERO-P plan. $50+tax a month for 500mins, unlimited text, data(3g &4g), night&weekend, data roaming. Sure I will get suck with another 2years contract but I'm not sure if there is a better plan?

Reception near pittsburgh pa

Is anyone on here from or near pittsburgh pa if so how is the 4g speeds and coverage I'm asking because I might switch from verizon but I dont want to get it if there is bad coverage or no 4g
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Check the t-mobile website for the network coverage..
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Check the t-mobile website for the network coverage..
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I'm in Pittsburgh specifically North Versailles and my speeds are pretty good. I have a constant LTE signal pretty much any where I go around town and the burbs.
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I was going to go with tmobile but with the new plan you have to pay like 200 down then $20 a month for 24 months it makes it almost the same as verizon it kinda sucks cause I was looking forward to unlimited data
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I was going to go with tmobile but with the new plan you have to pay like 200 down then $20 a month for 24 months it makes it almost the same as verizon it kinda sucks cause I was looking forward to unlimited data
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That's not new, it's been that way for 2 years. It's not a bad deal, Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data anymore. I have two lines with t mobile one with an EIP on the Jump program and 500 mb of data, the other line with unlimited everything plus insurance averages $160 a month after taxes. I priced Verizon and for everything unlimited it's a lot more.
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That's not new, it's been that way for 2 years. It's not a bad deal, Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data anymore. I have two lines with t mobile one with an EIP on the Jump program and 500 mb of data, the other line with unlimited everything plus insurance averages $160 a month after taxes. I priced Verizon and for everything unlimited it's a lot more.
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I have 3 phones on verizon we share 8gb of data and have unlimited talk&text I pay 220 a month
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Okay but you mentioned unlimited data, Verizon doesn't have unlimited data anymore, that's my point. Verizon CS is horrible, you wait two years to upgrade and they won't upgrade you early. I have been with AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon, horrid customer service, I switched to T Mobile two years ago and could not be happier. To each their own. If I took off unlimited data my bill would be $150 a month.
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I have 3 phones on verizon we share 8gb of data and have unlimited talk&text I pay 220 a month
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My monthly bill for 2 phones on their truly unlimited plan is only 130 after taxes. Thats counting eip on my note 2. Wifes lg is paid off. Was 140 then. If you ask me.... no matter how you look at it , 60/month ( not counting eip ) is a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
Now lets do tmobiles math
60/ month for 24 months = $1440
200 down + 480 (20/month for 24 months)= 680
Over 2 years you will have spent $2120
For verizon, not even counting the initial cost of the phone pre-subsidizing ( 300 ), you already spent more lol.
Verizon= $99/month
$99*24= 2376 + 299 for the note2 = $2675
Mind you, tmobile charges 680 outright and verizon charges 699 off contract for the note 2. You can clearly see they get much more money from you and give you less.
Edit. Last I checked verizons unlimited plan was 99. I cant seem to find anything on their website comparable. Going by my usage on tmobile and their (verizons) family share plan..... id be at the 40gb shared plan....ouch! Its even more ! $300/ month for 2 lines unlimited talk/text and 40gb ( 20gb each if split evenly ). Thank god I have Tmobile!
Id chew through 8gb of data alone in a few days just on netflix. My son watches while we are out of the house. Thats not counting my wife who skype video calls her family everyday overseas. How can you survive on only 8?
I even use wifi while im at home and at work too. When I dont, I can hit 60+gb alone! Keep in mind, each rom download is 1gb, 1 netflix movie is 1gb, and pandora / slacker / youtube add up fast too. Heck 1 movie a day puts you at 30gb / month + lol. I got hooked watching Merlin on netflix. That was 86 episodes and I finished it in 2 weeks. I could only imagine how much data id have used if I weren't on my homes fiber line.
Why buy a phone like this if you are limited in how / when you can use it?
Oh and I have LTE at work and pretty much everywhere when I'm out of the house. Can't beat it!
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I would love to switch to tmobile but I cant see only saving a few bucks to switch to less coverage ....when I looked originally at tmobile I figures about 160 for all three of us then I found out you have to pay about 200 and 20 bucks a month for each sevice which puts it at about 210 I cant see myself switching to save 10 dollars now if it was the 160 a month for all three I would have switched yesterday like I wanted to
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My monthly bill for 2 phones on their truly unlimited plan is only 130 after taxes. Thats counting eip on my note 2. Wifes lg is paid off. Was 140 then. If you ask me.... no matter how you look at it , 60/month ( not counting eip ) is a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else.
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Do you have any insurance on your phones? Are you on post paid or pre paid?
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I did have their php protection but recently had a bad experience with asurion. I dropped it on both lines out of principle. She had her phone for 2 years, never used insurance once. I had it for 2 on my galaxy s2..... never used it. 2 years of 7.99/month on 2 lines = 383.92 mind you.The first week i had my note2, i dropped it and broke the screen. Paid the deductible, sent in the phone, and figured all was well. I didnt save any of the tracking numbers they gave me. Well they couldnt find the phone. Billed me another 300 .... wtf. Luckily Tmobile worked with me through it and helped alleviate the $300 charge after weeks of fighting it. It was a "we found it". Oh wait we didnt ". Oh wait we did find the imei in our warehouse. Oh wait again..... we didnt" kind of scenario. Next phones will get a squaretrade warranty methinks.
Had I said I lost it like everyone else would have, they wouldnt have gotten it back anyway. Nope.... im honest... see where it got me?
Anyway my plan breakdown is like this
2x family plan =79.99 /month
2x unlimited data =40 /month
Eip = 20/month
Thats 140+tax but I also get a small discount which knocks about 15-20 off my bill.
Granted im in a major city (Baltimore MD ) and even cricket wireless gets decent coverage. Regardless, I was paying over 220/month for 2 lines on AT&T. That was without unlimited data.
Cricket was 50/ month and tmobile was 60....wasnt a hard choice knowing tmobile had 4g and was getting lte at the time lol
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I did have their php protection but recently had a bad experience with asurion. I dropped it on both lines. My plan breakdown is like this
2x family plan =79.99 /month
2x unlimited data =40 /month
Eip = 20/month
Thats 140+tax but I also get a small diacount which knocks about 15 off my bill.
Granted im in a major city (Baltimore MD ) and even cricket wireless gets decent coverage. Regardless, I was paying over 220/month for 2 lines on AT&T. That was without unlimited data.
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Thanks, I have the same plan but enrolled in Jump on the EIP line because it's cheaper than the insurance alone. What happened with Asurion?
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Thanks, I have the same plan but enrolled in Jump on the EIP line because it's cheaper than the insurance alone. What happened with Asurion?
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I edited my post with a whole story lol. Lets just say ill never use asurion again. Tmobile basically ate the 300 for me. Excellent customer service. They treated me better than at&t ever did... and I was with them there way back when they were cellular 1, then Cingular Wireless. 15yrs or so.
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I edited my post with a whole story lol. Lets just say ill never use asurion again. Tmobile basically ate the 300 for me. Excellent customer service. They treated me better than at&t ever did... and I was with them there way back when they were cellular 1, then Cingular Wireless. 15yrs or so.
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Thanks, I have used Asurion before when I was on Nextel, I always said that I lost the phone for that exact reason.
T Mobile customer service is outstanding, when I switched from AT&T and had a $200 etf, I told T Mobile and they gave me a bill credit of $120. I wasn't asking them for anything I was switching my mom over from Sprint and mentioned the ETF from AT&T and they just gave me a credit. I wasn't happy with the HTC Sensations I had purchased and they upgraded me 6 months early and again gave me a $120 credit. Outstanding customer service!
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Thanks, I have used Asurion before when I was on Nextel, I always said that I lost the phone for that exact reason.
T Mobile customer service is outstanding, when I switched from AT&T and had a $200 etf, I told T Mobile and they gave me a bill credit of $120. I wasn't asking them for anything I was switching my mom over from Sprint and mentioned the ETF from AT&T and they just gave me a credit. I wasn't happy with the HTC Sensations I had purchased and they upgraded me 6 months early and again gave me a $120 credit. Outstanding customer service!
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Thats just awesome! Most times I call them, I reach the customer service center in the Philippines.... They are always so pleasant
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I would love to switch to tmobile but I cant see only saving a few bucks to switch to less coverage ....when I looked originally at tmobile I figures about 160 for all three of us then I found out you have to pay about 200 and 20 bucks a month for each sevice which puts it at about 210 I cant see myself switching to save 10 dollars now if it was the 160 a month for all three I would have switched yesterday like I wanted to
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You forget that after the phone is payed for your bill will reflect that. With verizon you keep paying for the phone after you payed it off because it is not a separate line item on the bill.
I have both verizon and t-mobile. When I am in a city I use strictly t-mobile, unlimited (real unlimited) data is a hard thing to beat. The t-mobile LTE speeds aren't bad, I can live with them. Verizon LTE speed is just insanely fast.
I drive all over the country for work. I tried using just t-mobile, but once you get outside of a major city you are looking at edge networks at best on data, if at all. I have to use google maps, and pre-caching a journey from New Jersey to California is just not happening.
When t-mobile couldn't cut it on the dark spots between city lights, I got verizon. I will say I was 4G when I drove from New Jersey to California, LTE even almost the whole way.
If you are in a place where you will tend to stay there, and it is a city with 4G/LTE on T-mobile, they are fantastic. Just don't go to nowhere, usa and expect service.
My verizon bill of $110 versus my t-mobile bill of $70-something.
If I had to pick one or the other, i'd choose t-mobile because of the unlimited data, and then figure something else out for getting navigation off-network outside of major cities. My minimum network data is something north of 12 gigs a month and I can't afford buying it from verizon by the megabyte.
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You forget that after the phone is payed for your bill will reflect that. With verizon you keep paying for the phone after you payed it off because it is not a separate line item on the bill.
I have both verizon and t-mobile. When I am in a city I use strictly t-mobile, unlimited (real unlimited) data is a hard thing to beat. The t-mobile LTE speeds aren't bad, I can live with them. Verizon LTE speed is just insanely fast.
I drive all over the country for work. I tried using just t-mobile, but once you get outside of a major city you are looking at edge networks at best on data, if at all. I have to use google maps, and pre-caching a journey from New Jersey to California is just not happening.
When t-mobile couldn't cut it on the dark spots between city lights, I got verizon. I will say I was 4G when I drove from New Jersey to California, LTE even almost the whole way.
If you are in a place where you will tend to stay there, and it is a city with 4G/LTE on T-mobile, they are fantastic. Just don't go to nowhere, usa and expect service.
My verizon bill of $110 versus my t-mobile bill of $70-something.
If I had to pick one or the other, i'd choose t-mobile because of the unlimited data, and then figure something else out for getting navigation off-network outside of major cities. My minimum network data is something north of 12 gigs a month and I can't afford buying it from verizon by the megabyte.
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All that does make sense but I would be buying a new phone every 2 years or even 1 so I would always be paying the $20 dollars a month per phone idk if I want that and traveling to my wife's parents I would only get 2g there at least that's what the tmobile site shows on the map. ..I appreciate the info guys maybe I'll switch to tmobile after my dads plan is up and see how it is
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