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Just a question.. if we can do that ... all we have to do it connect a keyboard and a mouse via Bluetooth and we will have here a tablet or something..
no ??
We probably would be able to, but you'd have to do a bit of hacking if you wanted it to run.
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Am I the only one interested in having this??
I mean its cool .. no??
having a complete computer and a cell at the same time... idk...
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Isn't that what we have in Android?
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Yeah I for one would like to run something like Ubuntu with a GUI that we can connect a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to.
Our physical screen size plus a little higher "resolution" through lowering DPI would be perfect.
Having an actual computer phone would be dope!
I think so.. that would be awesome ...
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christeeezy said:
Yeah I for one would like to run something like Ubuntu with a GUI that we can connect a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to.
Our physical screen size plus a little higher "resolution" through lowering DPI would be perfect.
Having an actual computer phone would be dope!
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One can increase resolution nicely with LCD Density Modder application, and I suppose others as well. The Bluetooth keyboard is a nice idea: has anyone tried it?
I have a BT keyboard I got from Amazon that I use with my phone sometimes. It's supposed to be for a Galaxy Tab but it works great.
I'd like to have an Android/Ubuntu dual-boot system, that's be rad.
I'm thinking it will eat the battery, plus ur gunna have to use vnc anyway which will ruin the experience?
-- i know its localhost
if that's a possibility, how can we add the cell applications to ubuntu though??
I remember doing it on my HTC G1 back in the day. It was actually VNC viewer but it was a full blown Linux that run and operated on the phone. Can't remember which distro it was. It had a lot of steps to get to work if I remember correctly.
I wouldn't be surprised if the method today was just a few steps and/or zip. I'm sure if you Google something, the methods should apply to our phone as well. I'd be nice if we could dual boot.
It was Debian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8yBHbwuKSU For the G1
This might help you in your quest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN4c61ETCWg
In all honesty we barely have any devs (mostly just modders), so to be able to port something of this magnitude of our phone is probably not going to happen for a long time if ever
I'll try to do this today, but im not sure if our kernels supports loop devices.
I had chrooted ubuntu working, although it messed with my efs partition :-\ the idea is to get the subsystem up and running, then vnc into it from the android side. Its still a "local" installation but no working x11
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how do we even start the installation ??
we copy it to the card .. and make the installation from it ??
and .. in both ways .. if it works .. or if it doesn't.. we just odin back ??
They had Ubuntu distros for the HD2, so it IS possible. Keeping my fingers crossed.
... Am I the only one interested in this ??
I mean .. where do we start from ??
We take that distro for HD2 and use it on our cell ??
The HD2 distro won't work on our phones, I was just giving that as an example that this CAN be done.
There will be more devs popping up, I'm sure of that. This phone has only been out for a few months, just be patient.
Help!
I think these links may be of help to those wanting to run Linux!
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
http://android.galoula.com/en/LinuxInstall/
Alaways been currious of this myself but dont see what the added functionality would be on a device like the gs2, now a distro on something like a prime makes me drool
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I like to automatize almost everything around me, but by self technology, turn on/off lights, stereos, curtains, home security system (home made) well almost everything that works with electricity, but not only that i do it with a microcontroler board based on dspics and bluetooth modems i designed and developed myself
Until now I use my own software visual. Net based and my own UI, and if I want to access and control the mainboard to modify any settings i got to connect to my comp via wifi/internet but i want something more cool, so i was looking forward to develop android apps that i could manage my dsp main board directly vía bluetooth, I installed sdk a. D all the android stuff following android developer official Google site, but i can not even make the thing run the Hello world program, they skip/asume pro java developers and im new to it.. Does any of you could give me a noob /starter guide.. For android apps dev
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You should check out this.
When ever u build this I would love to get a copy of it sounds interesting
for me, by me and I love you
You just have search tutorials on Google. That helped me get over the hump.
Haha ok no problems i plan to put all my apps for free in the Play store and sell the hardware for controling everything vía bluetooth with your phone xD
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Is it possible without needing to install a ROM? What I basically want is the ability to have the dockbar move to the bottom of the screen when I rotate it to landscape instead of staying on the short side like it currently does. I want my dockbar always along the bottom edge of the screen no matter what position I'm holding the tablet. Currently no launchers that I know of allow this as an option. Any ideas that don't involve ROMs?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418867
This should do that until a new mods gets released .
You have to be rooted for this mod to work.
Hope that helps.
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I don't think real tablet UI has a dock. And a launcher like apex would give you the option to disable the dock like in larger tablets.
if you want true tablet ui, buy an iPad mini
What exactly do you mean with real tablet UI - the failed UI experiment from google in the past?
The N7 has the current tablet UI.
TDO said:
What exactly do you mean with real tablet UI - the failed UI experiment from google in the past?
The N7 has the current tablet UI.
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The current N7 uses the phablet ui. He means the honeycomb like ui. Whether you consider it failed or not does not matter some (me included) prefer it.
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I prefer that tablet ui too... would love some insight if tablet ui is possible at all in a CarbonRom.
I like the Honeycomb look better as well. My biggest issue is that all of the apps from the play store are downloaded as the phone version, not the tablet version. I bought a tablet to have tablet apps, not phone apps - I don't care that the screen is only 7".
Honeycomb ui works fine for a tablet all operations takes place below the screen. Unlike this new ui were you always have to reach the notification area
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
stealthj said:
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
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Also a lot of wasted screen real estate on the N7 between the forced search bar and top & bottom bar.
stealthj said:
Most other android tablets ( like galaxy tab, acers and others) Have the tabletUI (honeycomb or whatever the hell you wanna call it)
Why? Because with the way you hold your tablet, its way easier to hit the buttons and swipe where you need to with that setup.
At least it would be nice to have the option to change it.
I use guest profiles and what not so i cannot use the method posted above
Hopefully we will get tablet UI on stock somehow working good....
hmm... the older I get, the lazier i get to mess with roms
I would install ParanoidAndroid if I were to flaSH....
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You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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RyanTX said:
You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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Email the devs of the apps you buy and state your want to get a tablet version. easy peezy.
Revieww apps on the play store, state your opinion.
When people don't buy apps that devs spent lots of effort on, its discouraging.
stealthj said:
Email the devs of the apps you buy and state your want to get a tablet version. easy peezy.
Revieww apps on the play store, state your opinion.
When people don't buy apps that devs spent lots of effort on, its discouraging.
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It's nothing to do with the devs. It's the way the play store sees the nexus 7. USA today has a tablet version of their app. Directv has a tablet version. On the galaxy tab 8.9 for instance, I could get those. Maybe it's something to do with build.prop?
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RyanTX said:
It's nothing to do with the devs. It's the way the play store sees the nexus 7. USA today has a tablet version of their app. Directv has a tablet version. On the galaxy tab 8.9 for instance, I could get those. Maybe it's something to do with build.prop?
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OOoohhh I see I'm so sorry I misunderstood.
I saw that the USA app though says its for both phones and tablets. the direcTV one though , says not compatible with my device... of course we can always download the APK from somewhere but i think this calls for a petition to google to make sure we are getting the maximum experience on our devices.
the Wallet app I can understand, with the security thing and whatever but this? this is recidulous. and Now that You've mentioned it, I actally had a few apps on my nexus 10 which i cannot install on my nexus 7 (tablet apps)
weird right?
stealthj said:
OOoohhh I see I'm so sorry I misunderstood.
I saw that the USA app though says its for both phones and tablets. the direcTV one though , says not compatible with my device... of course we can always download the APK from somewhere but i think this calls for a petition to google to make sure we are getting the maximum experience on our devices.
the Wallet app I can understand, with the security thing and whatever but this? this is recidulous. and Now that You've mentioned it, I actally had a few apps on my nexus 10 which i cannot install on my nexus 7 (tablet apps)
weird right?
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Do you think we can edit the build prop or something to fool the play store into thinking we are using a nexus 10?
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tomarsenal said:
I don't think real tablet UI has a dock. And a launcher like apex would give you the option to disable the dock like in larger tablets.
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He's not talking about the launcher tablet ui. He's talking about the honeycomb style combines bar.
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RyanTX said:
You can flash pa and get the tablet look but that doesn't mean you're gonna get the tablet apps - that's what I'm wanting.
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You DO get tablet apps if you want. Changes in DPI determine app layout. PA lets you choose DPI on an app to app basis without trashing your market. Meaning modifications to build.prop are broad and make your market think you are a tablet which for some apps is bad, so they don't do that.
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You DO get tablet apps if you want. Changes in DPI determine app layout.
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In most cases yes. However (for whatever reason) some companies/developers choose to publish two separate apps to the Play Store - one for phones and one for tablets, and unless your device is identified as a tablet the tablet version of the app is marked as incompatible (and the phone version doesn't include the tablet layout so it isn't available by dpi/layout changes).
Again, however, this is something that the app devs should be sorting - provide one apk that contains all layouts and the problem is solved (because then you can use PA or whatever to use whichever layout you like).
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Do you think we can edit the build prop or something to fool the play store into thinking we are using a nexus 10?
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I think there was a patched playstore apk that removes country/device restrictrions.... I don't remember if it needed Xposed or not.... I forgetbut im pretty sure i used it before on one of my old phones
Hello, I wonder if any developer has a project on ubuntu for the Galaxy Tab 7.0 3 (SM-T210), I'd love to try the ubuntu on my tablet, some developer? (Bad english = I'm Brazilian)
I've researched a lot about it. but the results did not reach.
K3VYNC said:
Hello, I wonder if any developer has a project on ubuntu for the Galaxy Tab 7.0 3 (SM-T210), I'd love to try the ubuntu on my tablet, some developer? (Bad english = I'm Brazilian )
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You could download Linux deploy from google app store.
halifax0 said:
You could download Linux deploy from google app store.
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I want to install native Ubuntu, without VNC connection D:
I know that there are several different Samba apps on playstore that my work for you.?
-sr
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samalama76 said:
I know that there are several different Samba apps on playstore that my work for you.?
-sr
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I was thinking something like download an ARM version of Linux to install / flash on my tablet..
Is there any way?
*** NATIVE, NO VNC ***
(Note: I'm using Ubuntu (GNOME) 13.10 on my desktop)
K3VYNC said:
I was thinking something like download an ARM version of Linux to install / flash on my tablet..
Is there any way?
*** NATIVE, NO VNC ***
(Note: I'm using Ubuntu (GNOME) 13.10 on my desktop)
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I am just throwing this out here because I'm not sure if its what you want exactly, but it may help.
The webpage is whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian
Check it out, hope it helps. It may give some ideas if nothing else, and if it doesn't help, sorry in advance.
-sr
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Oh, thanks bro!!
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Holy crap, that was my first topic ever created lol.
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Well.... did it work?
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Lol, everyone learns things there own way. you would be surprised at the amount of work involved to get a fully functional NATIVE port going. my first took me almost a year on Allwinner Hardware, second 2 went pretty smooth and still took 6 months. the biggest issue you have with a device like a Galaxy is drivers, and UART access to catch were your kernels are crashing (and trust me they will) but you can kinda work around that by having your init scripts dump the log to SD(assuming it is working).
As for drivers? Wifi is fairly simple to get going, its usually just configuration changes. Touchpanel drivers need to be heavily modified to remove muli-touch(not completely..read on) as Xorg and linux in general does not play nice with multi-touch. you CAN use multi-touch to emulate scrolling (ex:2 fingers enables scrolling) and right click events, really it is completely possible to use the full chips capabilities you just need to code the events properly in the source. bluetooth I have not bothered to use but I see no issue with it. GPU!!!!! god I hate the GPU mess. that is the biggest hurdle. I got lucky on my tablets as I was able to port X11 Mali drivers from rockchip over to Allwinner and AMlogic. I use my first Allwinner Tablet daily paired with a cheap mini-keyboard,touchpanel from DX.com. Its not easy, by any means but its a challenge(for me an addiction) and once you get it running on the NAND and power up watching your system log on the LCD...it just gives you that feeling of satisfaction. I am currently in the preliminary stages right now for the Tab 7 working around the OTG issues but there is hope! yes the PMIC chosen by samsung sucks and is partly responsible for our OTG problems( the powering portion anyway since it can only output enough to run low amp devices until I can find the LDO registers for the Boost regulator) but I will not stop until I get it done. KNOX is a major issue at this time as usual but won't be in the long run. It is tough probing the devices registers using i2c-tools so I bailed on that one and ported a tool I used for another platform which Is working out nicely to get valuable data from the chips via a kernel module/userland combo.
I try to keep everyone updated but when there is nothing substantial to report you will hear from me when their is. Ubuntu will run one way or another.
Hello everyone! I just saw some news about this phone releasing tomorrow, and the Intel Atom processor caught my attention, as it has a 64-bit processor. I remember, long ago in the days of the very first Galaxy S, there was a way to run Windows 98 through emulation using QEMU and Bochs, however it was PAINFULLY slow since it was emulating the x86 architecture from ARM. Since this phone will not have that step to go through, does that mean it would be possible to run a fully-featured version of Windows on it, such as Windows 7? (or XP, 8, or 8.1, I just stated 7 for reference) I used to have one of the even older Sony Vaio UMPCs when they were cool, but they're quite slow for any modern tasks. I've dreamed of any kind of successor to it, so that I could have a device running the full Windows experience in my pocket (versus in my bookbag with a laptop or tablet).
Thanks in advance for the replies!
I am a current owner and hoping for the same thing. It does have the 64 bit Atom in it, so in theory, it should be possible!
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in theory its possible.. except you won't have any driver support from asus whatsoever
so... basically everything wouldn't work properly..
i.e. EMMC storage
touchscreen
sensorhub
gps
cellular radio
you get the idea
Couldn't we write the drivers ourselves? I know it isn't an easy task, but it seems as though it should be possible.
Hydrocharged said:
Couldn't we write the drivers ourselves? I know it isn't an easy task, but it seems as though it should be possible.
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Everything is possible and doable, question is: what for?
grzsz said:
Everything is possible and doable, question is: what for?
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For installing steam and play CS GO on my phone x'D
well.. may be it would be nice to have a working linux chroot with a working X server (with audio also) so we can use native linux programs on our little diamond. I know also that it has hdmi out, so we can use it like a pc with bt keyboard\mouse or microUSB with usb keyboard\mouse and hdmi out
I did that on my old htc ONE m7, working debian chroot on hdmi monitor, but the problem is always the X Server.. i was using VNC and it doesn't support audio
sorry for bad english
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Everything is possible and doable, question is: what for?
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To have a way to run a full Windows installation that can fit in the pocket, without purchasing legacy UMPCs such as the: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-UX280P-4-5-inch-Laptop-Processor/dp/B000IALP88
I'm honestly pretty sad that they discontinued the UMPC concept, I wish it would have stayed.
tbh, I'm interested in seeing if we can get Wine compiled for a chroot'd linux on these beasties. If we can get that working, I could see fully working XP applications at some point.
There's a really good X Server already, XServer-XSDL, that's free on the Play store & plenty of chroot linux builds out there too.
ycavan said:
tbh, I'm interested in seeing if we can get Wine compiled for a chroot'd linux on these beasties. If we can get that working, I could see fully working XP applications at some point.
There's a really good X Server already, XServer-XSDL, that's free on the Play store & plenty of chroot linux builds out there too.
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About how fast is XServer as far as realtime applications go? Since it uses tunneling it seems like there would be some kind of delay, but I have no experience in such areas. If not, then getting Wine to run could open up a lot of possibilities!
XServer-XSDL is real-time since there's no tunneling. I've used it on a couple of my phones. Start up the chroot'd linux on the phone, start up XServer-XSDL, ssh into the chroot'd linux, export DISPLAY=:0 & start up your favorite windows manager. I like lxde or fvwm, personally.
I'm waiting for root so I can install backtrack.
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It is only a matter of time. Hope it is sooner than later. I'm interested in having Windows 10 on here.
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I'm waiting for root so I can install backtrack.
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Rooted versions of the Asus roms are available already... You just need to find them, herer...-https://mega.co.nz/#F!k4MHiAgL!dVuOKeH3eokcwPSNI79ffw
Big thanks to shakalaca for maintaining the rooted images...
Yeah but I'll wait for an official way to root it with an unlocked boot loader.
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So far have xserver-xsdl installed as the X server, installed debian Jessie to my sd card's 20 ish gig ext 4 partition using Linux deploy. Apt-get wine. Follow wine setup for first boot. I'll test some executables tomorrow.
Another thing is cpuinfo shows the vmx extension, so we could probably run qemu-kvm as well.
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Edit:
Wine works fine and starts up applications okay and is pretty snappy. BUT it looks like OpenGL in Jessie may be messed up, so either need to see if Mesa has been fixed and recompile or go back to an older distro.
Edit 2:
We may not be able to get hardware accelerated wine with the proprietary powervr video card. Mesa glx shows no support and es2_info shows support but es2 gears won't run.
Well that's not looking good :/