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[Q] Internal storage

Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance

Your wildfire could install what....20-40 apps before getting a low storage warning?
Install an SD card, all your apps go to internal, (except app data...ie games) and your SD card is your "user storage".
Unless you install over 200 apps, most of them large, you will never get a low storage warning on the One V and that is a good thing.
When you want to upgrade to a new SD card, just copy the contents over to your new one, install and go........that simple.
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Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage

Compizfox said:
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
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Please free ur internal memory as free as possible....only keep frequently used apps in it, we have 4GB internal memory of which 1GB is available to us...in es file explorer click on favorites and there will be a phone icon.if u want to paste something not ur internal storage as writable through settings
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Compizfox said:
Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
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Ahhh, you mean that 95 or so mb of user storage?
1. No, you cannot move apps there
2. Really, not alot of place for music, some photos sure, just select internal storage in the camera app.
The 95 mb or so HTC left us is basically a joke, if youx have a suitable sd card (16gb ones are twenty bucks or less) I really sugest using that and consider that small space as a buffer if your card is removed and you want to suddenly snap a photo......or whatever.
In the future, when we have s-off and can repartion the nand that tiny space will be irrelevant.
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I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.

Compizfox said:
I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
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No problems man, I'll start at the beginning.
Go to settings > storage, you will see:
Internal storage, total space 0.94GB...........it will report apps, and available. The two together should add up.
This is where your apps go
Phone storage, total space 95.23MB.........then available (mine is 95.21MB!!!!)
Storage Card, same total space / available.....this depends on what card you have
This is where app data goes, "user storage" ie. photos, videos, music, email attachments, downloads, etc. It will default to using your SD card if installed. If there is no SD card, or you temporally remove it, it will save stuff to your phone storage.
What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
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The "partions" are as listed above. There are some directories that you may not be able to view because you may not have "root access". If you root your phone, you will now have access to view and edit the entire file system (kinda like being an admin on a windows machine). Unless you are an advanced user, this is not really required. Some system files are hidden by default for good reason, change them or move them (or delete them like my Dad on his home computer**#@!) and you can really mess things up in a way you do not realize until later.
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
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Like I said before, the "internal storage" is for apps only, your "user storage" on your phone is only 95.23MB. Not enough for music really, maybe some photos (In the camera app itself under camera setting > storage > you can select storage card or phone storage) but....you are limited to the 95.23MB of space.
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
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Yes, but they obviously will not be able to access any data on the card that is no longer in your phone!!!
It is easy to upgrade your SD card from the one that came with the phone. hook a USB cable to your phone, select "disk drive" from the drop down menu, copy the contents all at once onto the new SD card (if hooked upto your computer as well), power down the phone, swap cards and reboot......boom....more storage!!!
I hope that answered your questions, if not we'll have to talk S-off, hboots, nand partioning etc!!!!
Regards.

Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw

Compizfox said:
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
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Yup, you've got it right.
The CWM probably has that option for other devices. The HTC desire, by default (similiar to the wildfire), 512MB nand, approx 105MB for the user (apps, user data, everything!). With s-off, we had scripts in which the ext3 partion of the sd card would be read as part of the "internal" storage, so not all was lost.
But, back on topic, yes just nandroid to your sd card.
Cheers man, glad to hear your enjoying your phone.
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it's because i put the option in..
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Lloir said:
it's because i put the option in..
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Cool, what partion does this option use?
Edit: disregard the question dude, read the dev thread and got ky answer. Good work.
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[Q] How do you guys deal with the limited (2GB) USB Storage?

Hi all,
I know that Samsung likes to mount the external SD Card at "sdcard/external_sd" and uses it's built in space as the "SD Card" when viewed by the OS/applications for the purposes of installing applications/data.
For a phone which is powerful enough to play some decent games which have large data files this is a huge problem because the USB Storage fills up after installing only a couple of games with no option to move the data to the real external SD Card.
I have tried "Directory Bind" and it actually does work with the stock ROM, until I plug the phone into the computer and mount USB Storage. The phone barely enters USB Storage mode and right away the directory binding is broken until the phone is rebooted, with the SD Card sometimes not remounting on its own.
My question is, is there a way to install applications to the external SD Card? Is this a problem with the custom ROMs like Arco's CM9 or any of the derivatives? Is it to do with the partition structure? Can this be fixed or are there other applications I could try besides Directory Bind?
Thanks

juzza87 said:
Hi all,
I know that Samsung likes to mount the external SD Card at "sdcard/external_sd" and uses it's built in space as the "SD Card" when viewed by the OS/applications for the purposes of installing applications/data.
For a phone which is powerful enough to play some decent games which have large data files this is a huge problem because the USB Storage fills up after installing only a couple of games with no option to move the data to the real external SD Card.
I have tried "Directory Bind" and it actually does work with the stock ROM, until I plug the phone into the computer and mount USB Storage. The phone barely enters USB Storage mode and right away the directory binding is broken until the phone is rebooted, with the SD Card sometimes not remounting on its own.
My question is, is there a way to install applications to the external SD Card? Is this a problem with the custom ROMs like Arco's CM9 or any of the derivatives? Is it to do with the partition structure? Can this be fixed or are there other applications I could try besides Directory Bind?
Thanks
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You could try to move the apps you installed to the external SD by using app2sd. Download it from the playstore
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Hi there, if you're running a custom rom like cm9, you have a really useful option.....
Goto settings>>storage press menu and select storage configurations....then 'check' the box.....this basically swaps the storage volumes and uses your external SD as internal storage.....you will have to reboot your phone so that the change takes effect.....
CM9...I don't HAVE to.....I just.....can..

Swapping your storage, it is the simple way to deal with that kind of this problem.
And just for your information, using the directory bind will preventing your phone to enter the deep sleep, so it will drain your battery much faster than you don't use that application.
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App2SD doesn't work well for me on stock ROM, moves data from USB storage to... USB storage
Thanks switched from modified GB 2.3.6 based ROM to CM9, as much as I hate CM9 performance wise it's working exactly as described, all application data is now on external SD card! Thanks

Thanks you guys,this has been of HUGE help to me seeing I'm new to all this android stuff. I'm really glad I loaded CM9 on my phone now,finally I can use my 16gb sdcard easily
Just one last question,now that my external_SD is actually my SD_card,if I were to restore to factory settings or return to my default ROM,will all the data on my external sdcard (SD_card) be wiped out?
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RaxToTheMax said:
Thanks you guys,this has been of HUGE help to me seeing I'm new to all this android stuff. I'm really glad I loaded CM9 on my phone now,finally I can use my 16gb sdcard easily
Just one last question,now that my external_SD is actually my SD_card,if I were to restore to factory settings or return to my default ROM,will all the data on my external sdcard (SD_card) be wiped out?
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Nope it won't. If you wipe data and restore factory settings your sd card won't be deleted. Unless you format your external sd which is refering to your sd card
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RaxToTheMax said:
Thanks you guys,this has been of HUGE help to me seeing I'm new to all this android stuff. I'm really glad I loaded CM9 on my phone now,finally I can use my 16gb sdcard easily
Just one last question,now that my external_SD is actually my SD_card,if I were to restore to factory settings or return to my default ROM,will all the data on my external sdcard (SD_card) be wiped out?
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It won't get deleted because it's just symbolic mounting location placed within the phones file system but it doesn't hurt to keep a rolling backup of your SD card somewhere else (once when changing ROMs on my Xperia Play I lost about 2/3 of all photos on my SD card, it was a freak random bug but was devastating).
Also note that different ROMs store photos from the camera in different locations which can be a bother for some gallery applications (having to go through folders). If you're using the default setting of storing photos from the camera or music/downloads on the internal 2GB "SD card" then this data will be erased with a factory reset

With GB, I installed Bionic Cow 2; out-of-the-box it swapped Internal & External SD, allowing me to use my 16GB Class 10 microSD as "sdcard".
For good measure, I partitioned the microSD into 2; the 1st as FAT32, the 2nd as ext2. Then I installed Link2SD to help clean up the 'internal storage'.
With ICS (CM9), it's much easier. After *completely* wiping the phone ( /system, /data, /cache, internal SD, and external SD), after 1st boot of CM9, I go into System Settings and swap the internal / external SD, and immediately rebooted.
On CM9, I *still* partition my microSD to enable Link2SD.
Keeping 'internal storage' less than 50% used makes my phone zooooooooooom

Frustrating sdcard issue.

First I'll start by noting that I haad my n2 several days before purchasing a 64gb sd card. So system was already setup with a few apps installed pre-sdcard.
However now that I have it in, nothing saves to it. Everything still saves to the internal sdcard. I dont care about apps and such installed from market or xda, those are fine.
But anything I download from Tapatalk or the web browser automatically saves to internal. Pictures taken as well.
Im coming from an evo3d where pics and all media/files I downloaded would go to the sd card and not internal.
I do see that for whatever reason samsung nsmed there internal as sdcard which probably makes a lot of apps think that is the external and not internal but its extremely annoying. I dont know if its because I started using phone before I had an external one in or if thats by design.
But its ridiculous to think I'd have to manually copy everything over from internal to external sfter downloading something when my 3d used to place on external.
Do I need to factory reset to correct this or what. Whats the point of an external card that isnt being utilized??
Also it isnt recognized at all in twrp which after some reading I see it doesn't support 64gb? What gives?
Do I need to format it a certain way?
Thanks in advance.
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I have not been able to move my Tapatalk download folder, but you can relocate where things download to under settings in the browser and camera apps.
For formatting, I'd format the card via the phone under storage if you haven't already tried that.
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I changed camera to external so it now saves to /storage/extSdCard/DCIM which is good but dolphin broswer only lets u select /storage/sdcard0 which is default internal storage. Doesnt even show the extSdCard as an option. Why in the world would they do it like this. Very gay.
Had no issues on previous HTC models going to the correct place.
Would I be able to use root explorer to rename the directories?
Need this fixed more than anything. Some apps dont even give you the option to change path as they assume sdcard0 is your actual sdcard. :/
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sdcard0 to extsdcard
I found a scripts the tricks ICS to use your external sdcard as your internal storage. So when apps write data to sdcard0 it is actually writting to your external sd. I tried it and it works!
I dont have permission to post outside links but you can find it at galaxynote2root in the tutorials section.

[Q] Note wont see internal memory, but reads ext sd

So after numerous times of flashing the 27. img it finally took. phone is rooted and Multi view is working perfect.. Now my internal drive is saying its full and out of storage. i am in the process of updating the modem.. my wifi works fine. what can i do to restore the diskspace on my internal storage? any suggestions? thanks

Format?
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cdshepherd said:
Format?
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what is the process for formating an internal drive that says i have 225 apps stored on it. Actually its only about 60, which means some how the internal was partitioned when the new load was being installed.. is there something i can do to have access of whole drive save stock apps and rom.. let me know please.. I cant install the modem until i create space on the internal drive.. thanks again

You can flash from external as well. For formatting go to menu> settings> storage. You should find it there. Formatting will wipe everything off of your internal sd.
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[Q] Help q and a

So im a rogers S3 user. I have a Sd card and internal storage of 16 gigs. currently I am running cyanogenmod...and for some reason I cannot view all the files of my internal storage. I keep moving pictures over to my SD card but not all pictures go nor do they even come off as what is being used in the internal storage. currently under miscellaneous there are 10 gigs of memory being used on what i do not know. any recommendations on how to lower this..should i just delete the entire miscellaneous and start new? its really confusing as I looked into my SD card and I had moved everything but i am not sure why the SD card is not showing all my pictures yet on my phone the pictures are somewhere yet i cannot see all of them from the internal storage either..any ideas?!

Well you can always transfer your stuff to a PC then go into recovery and make a nandroid. Then completely wipe everything, then restore your system
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The thing is it looks like everything I save to sd is going to internal

Well just transfer everything you want from there onto your PC and wipe it all including your sd card if you have one. That's just what I would do I've never cared to mess around. I'll just wipe all then go from there, doesn't take long
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So I would just wipe all using cwm?

adeolshivraj said:
So I would just wipe all using cwm?
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Yea absolutely after you've got everything you want of course
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