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Hi, yesterday i got a massage that i can download new ota update 2.29... i've decided not to dwnl. it cause phone is rooted but it is on custom rom and i have data to sd as it says in my signature. Quest. is, what hapend in that case when upgradeing?
htc desire data2sd
Never apply OTA on rooted phones!
You most likely will mess up your phone.
If you want the changes from the update either use the matching RUU or find a custom rom based on that version.
Oh and your signature is empty.
Thx, for reply. It is the main problem i can't decide what is the compatibile rom. I know it is verry newbe quest but it so hard for me to get it on cause there is so much of everything that can brick the phone. As much as i read that less i understand. Can't find the rom that is up to date and that it is compatibile. Don't know how to decide which is ok. About signature, english isn't my native lang. and it is hard to find the right expression .
htc desire data2sd
There isn't that much that can brick your phone, people use the word brick to much for every little problem they have. As far as I know there are only three ways to brick a phone:
Hardware damage
Faulty radio install
Messing up the hboot
There might be more but can't think of any other right now. Non of these are relevant to you right now.
For all the desire compatible rom's check this thread. StarBurst is probably your best bet if you want to keep the normal Sense. Make sure to read the thread for requirements and instructions.
Thank you for your patiente, one more newbie q. I can`t find on the google how to see which recovery mode do i have? There i see some notes to whatch out with which recovery to oprate but i can`t find how to see which version is mine.
Just boot in recovery, there should be a line telling what recovery it is. Most likely you have CWM 2.5.0.7.
You are right once again . So from now on i should find the newest rom. Is gingerbred for desire yet out and should it be something much better then those roms you've sugest me in the privious post? As i saw on the forum those custom roms are eaven more up to date and provide more options than those "original" roms, and another confusing thing is that in star burst is option to update ota, is this correct or i do not understand it correctly?
htc desire data2sd
Same concern here:
I've rooted the phone, I've installed Rom Manager, wasn't convinced to install any ROM. How this will affect the OTA update ?
To be honest I'm waiting for the official 2.3 from HTC and I've rooted the phone mainly to get access to some Market software unavailable outside the US (maps, voice actions, etc).
I've also unlocked the phone using seempi's method.
If you're rooted you can't apply the OTA, simple as that.
If you want OTAs then you'll need to go back to stock
Whats the full version number of ota update?
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Hi,
I just got my dhd back from repair and they updated it to 2.50.405.2 -.-
Is this downgradable yet to root ? I ****in hate standard roms
Please help..
Thanks
i think versions above 2.37 can't be downgraded yet.
i am waiting for downgrade of 2.42 as well. just wait
I to have 2.50.405.2 after repair.
I found rooted this version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155634&highlight=2.50.405.2
But dont know will it help to change ROM.
If some one will find some solution please share it.
gingerbreak 1.2 not working with 2.50
Well, u need clockworkmod to flash it which u need rom manager for. And for rom manager u need root
I think we'll have to wait.. But the 2.37+ downgrade has been in development for about 2 months now.. Taking way to long
Probably waiting to see which bootloaders are unlocked, as promised.
Due out in September.
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Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
+Nybras+ said:
Any more on the matter, I want to downgrade so I can root?
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If u are S-OFF then u can downgrade to 2.36 by using the RUU version then root ur device,
edit:- i´ve done it more than 3times after updating from 2.36 to 2.50 "OTA" (believe me u can)
U can get the 2.36 ruu here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13381205
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
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dwyaneW said:
So,if i'm novice and i don't have s-off with 2.50 only thing i can do is wait for downgrade?is that right?
Sent from my Desire HD
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Now you can..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152233
I was waiting for this too, and now it seems like we can downgrade and root our devices. What could worst case scenario be, if something went wrong?
Have you ever rooted a device before?
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
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dwyaneW said:
Nn,im freshmani didn't do anything about this..so i need some simple manual how to do it?this link seems complicated for me nowi dont have,root,s-off etc..
Sent from my Desire HD
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Dont worry, in a couple of hours we'll have an updated method and toolkit available to downgrade.
Edit: My Method and Toolkit have been updated.
http://driphter.com/index.php?topic=3867.0
Thanks a lot ,,, Guide from JSLEnterprises was so amazing and very helpful
can't wait to get my new ROM !
Edit:
DONE!
DHD is now rooted with Radio and ENG S-OFF.
Thank you so much.
Now moving on to flash another rom, and try and figure the whole fing about the radio out..
I successfully downgraded and rooted my desire hd 2.42.415 at last. Thanks a million JSLEnterprises. You are awesome
Trivial Question
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
gixer131 said:
I have a trivial question, I am very interested in rooting using this method, however I have recently encountered an issue with my stock rom ever since I did the OTA update to 2.43.611.1 The issue is HTC Sence has stopped unexpectedly window pops up quite often & in talking to telus my provider & HTC them selves, they both say the phone needs to be repaired,
My question since I encountered the problem immediatly upon doing the OTA update should I get it repaired first or just try rooting to see if that fixes it.
Also if possible can I be pointed in the direction of how to return to stock Telus if I end up rooting & the probelm still persists?
My thanks to thoes who have diligently be working & involved in helping others & myself reach root status on higher Build numbers.
Great Work!
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The reason you're getting the error after the ota update is the same reason why people get issues after installing custom roms and not wiping their device... the old cache and user data conflicts with the update.
Downgrading and then flashing a custom rom along with flashing an updated radio will remedy the problem. I dont believe you'll want to use the initial radio release, I highly recommend flashing the radio from the 2.52 korean release to your Telus DHD, along with the ril's from that release and replacing the ones in the rom you will flash via cwm recovery. ENG S-OFF is required to flash a new radio or recovery img.
Once you downgrade, you can always return to the stock 2.43.661.1 rom. There is a thread in the Desire HD/Inspire 4G Forum on Driphter.com where I've placed the RUU's of common builds (especially for Telus and AT&T). If returning the device for warranty purposes, you must Radio S-On prior to Installing the stock rom via the RUU. The RUU Itself will set ENG to SHIP, and unroot.
Excellent, Greatly appreciated.
Might try rooting as soon as tonight. Kind of excited to have a functional device again!
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
Cheers guys I will try that downgrade guide. Just a note though. The file fize of the version of HTC Sync for the Desire HD I'm downloading is 66.6MB. I hope that isn't an omen for this to go horrendously wrong
giusdk said:
I am glad that it worked, i thought OH **** the other day, when i found out that i shouldn't have updated to 2.50, if i was about to root..
Big thanks to you JSL, nice work, and easy tuturial!!
I can see that in /HTC ACE TOOLKIT
is a splash screen changer, and a boot animation changer.. how do i use them?
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they're explained in coles notes way at the bottom of the 9 step thread
Anyone else get stuck with the warning triangle / sign with green android bot logo figure on reboot after OTA 2.3.5?
HTC seems to block the official OTA update to android 2.3.5 on rooted phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20091257&postcount=25
Should we reverse engineer the updater to remove the blocking check or do we have a full stock rom for EU with this update to flash using
alquez said:
Clockworkmod Recovery v5.0.2.6 for HTC Wildfire S (Marvel)
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already?
woprr said:
Anyone else get stuck with the warning triangle / sign with green android bot logo figure on reboot after OTA 2.3.5?
HTC seems to block the official OTA update to android 2.3.5 on rooted phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20091257&postcount=25
Should we reverse engineer the updater to remove the blocking check or do we have a full stock rom for EU with this update to flash using
already?
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Who needs OTA? We have the stock RUU here already.
But did anyone seriously expect a different behavior?
HTC won't unlock the WFS bootloader as we already know... so how can anybody expect they would allow OTA updates on rooted phones?
Since I own HTC Android phones I never saw an OTA update working on a rooted or debranded phone (HTC Tattoo, HTC Desire, HTC Wildfire, HTC Wildfire S).
Before rooting or debranding (unbranding) everything is fine. When we "cross the line" we are on our own.
Any updates must be installed by us. Anyway that shouldn't be difficult to do...
IMHO that should be simple to understand.
I guess installing a modified recovery and then expecting for a free software update would be like showing the middle finger to HTC and still asking for candy.
Android is "open source" software but only until some extent. HTC puts a lot of modifications on their releases (mainly Sense and some addons).
If we want to "kit" or "mod" or phones we should be conscious of what we're doing.
The price to pay for being impatient or for wanting to have complete control of our devices is now pretty obvious.
I'm not saying I agree with this... on the contrary! HTC should unlock the booloader and let us do what we want.
However if we decide to take that path it's our problem.
If I put myself on HTC's boots I understand that rooting/debranding/modifying recovery is a valid reason for voiding warranty and locking future updates. With an user modified phone there is no guarantee that HTC can predict what will happen during the update process.
If something goes wrong there are possibly too many variables involved that are out of their control.
Just my two cents... sorry for my long posts mates.
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Who needs OTA? We have the stock RUU here already.
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And unrooted and probably s-on bootloader after flash?
Forget it. Trash this HTC ****, I backup and participate in sense- less custom roms
woprr said:
And unrooted and probably s-on bootloader after flash?
Forget it. Trash this HTC ****, I backup and participate in sense- less custom roms
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I don't understand why people buy HTC phones which are mainly "famous" because of Sense and then want to get rid of it.
It's like buying a Ferrari and removing the logo with the horse.
If I wanted a plain Vanilla Android phone there would be plenty of cheaper solutions available. Many of them with custom roms being developed.
So why buy HTC and remove it's main feature?
This is obviously just my opinion. No flaming intended.
Well, it was my first smartphone ever, and what I got for 200€ is a nasty brick of bugs with hours extra work of fixing.
This piece of crap is not even capable of setting the clock correctly without rooting.
Then comes a update and they block my phone.
I'm really fed up of HTC "Quality", and want most of their "commercialware" removed now.
I will never buy any HTC again. I've had it.
d33ps1x said:
Who needs OTA? We have the stock RUU here already.
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I'm from mobile and I can't find the link for the official RUU. Can you please pm or post the link here? Thx
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
That's normal, once you get rooted, you're on your own.
Here.
TerrAme0 said:
I'm from mobile and I can't find the link for the official RUU. Can you please pm or post the link here? Thx
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The RUU
Kind of off-topic, but on topic for the RUU update. Is it possible to installed Data2SD on this and be greater then 2 GB?
No, it's an official update.
miguelca said:
But did anyone seriously expect a different behavior?
HTC won't unlock the WFS bootloader as we already know... so how can anybody expect they would allow OTA updates on rooted phones?
Since I own HTC Android phones I never saw an OTA update working on a rooted or debranded phone (HTC Tattoo, HTC Desire, HTC Wildfire, HTC Wildfire S).
Before rooting or debranding (unbranding) everything is fine. When we "cross the line" we are on our own.
Any updates must be installed by us. Anyway that shouldn't be difficult to do...
IMHO that should be simple to understand.
I guess installing a modified recovery and then expecting for a free software update would be like showing the middle finger to HTC and still asking for candy.
Android is "open source" software but only until some extent. HTC puts a lot of modifications on their releases (mainly Sense and some addons).
If we want to "kit" or "mod" or phones we should be conscious of what we're doing.
The price to pay for being impatient or for wanting to have complete control of our devices is now pretty obvious.
I'm not saying I agree with this... on the contrary! HTC should unlock the booloader and let us do what we want.
However if we decide to take that path it's our problem.
If I put myself on HTC's boots I understand that rooting/debranding/modifying recovery is a valid reason for voiding warranty and locking future updates. With an user modified phone there is no guarantee that HTC can predict what will happen during the update process.
If something goes wrong there are possibly too many variables involved that are out of their control.
Just my two cents... sorry for my long posts mates.
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I don't rally want or expect the OTA update, but have it disabled in wifes phone, but it still comes up in menu bar n says update available.
Anyway to stop it displaying this?
Ron173 said:
I don't rally want or expect the OTA update, but have it disabled in wifes phone, but it still comes up in menu bar n says update available.
Anyway to stop it displaying this?
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Freeze the update notifier with titanium backup
Or just disable automatic update check..
Hi all, I've now a Vodafone branded phone, as for now I only have to wait for official updates (I'm no rooted and locked bootloader), I was thinking of what will happen when no more official updates are released, will I be able to install custom ROMS with the latest Android distribution or will I be stuck on the last one I will have officially received?
Because as for now I can't update to custom jb ROMS due to the incompatible hboot, bus as far as htc doesn't release more official updates shouldn't the hboot be the same for everyone?
I know this couldn't be a clear explanation, sorry for that, but I need to know if I've to sell my phone to get an unbranded one or not... I'd like to be able to use this phone as long as I don't break it, so this is so important to me,
Thanks
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you just have to wait longer, you will get your JB update. Every hox will get it. Unbranded have it earlier because the provider don't need to add bloatware !
If HTC pushes out a update you will also get it, doesn't matter if you have vodaphone or any other provider.
This also counts for future updates.
Yes, i know that, my thoughts were for when htc will not release updates anymore, what will happen then? Will we be able to flash custom ROMS based in aosp builds or not because of the hboot?
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MarcelHofs said:
you just have to wait longer, you will get your JB update. Every hox will get it. Unbranded have it earlier because the provider don't need to add bloatware !
If HTC pushes out a update you will also get it, doesn't matter if you have vodaphone or any other provider.
This also counts for future updates.
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I think he wanted to know if he will get his JB update, will he be able to flash custom roms which need a newer hboot.
So as far as i know, if you get your OTA update, your hboot will also be updated to the new hboot and then you will be able to use all the custom roms which need the new hboot.
But nobody knows what will be if newer versions of Android will come out, maybe they will need again a newer hboot version. And as long as you have a carrier branded device you will always need to wait for your carrier update.
If the Dev's could achieve S-Off there wouldn't be a problem, but so far nobody has made it.
Edit:
AOSP works better with older hboot (under 1.23), for some reason the gps and some things are broken on newer hboot (over 1.23) and they often need a seperate kernel (boot.img) to work.
But there are also a lot of custom roms for the newer hboot in the other developement section.
However i don't know if dev's will decide to work only with the never hboot in the future.
Thanks, then as I thought there is no clue of what will happen for branded phones, so going for an unbranded seems the best choice, wouldn't it?
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Involved said:
Thanks, then as I thought there is no clue of what will happen for branded phones, so going for an unbranded seems the best choice, wouldn't it?
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It's always the best choice.
But much likely if HTC releases a update, the carriers will / should follow, even though they will need more time.
Also if HTC won't release any more updates we will all be stuck on the latest version and maybe devs won't be capable of developing the newest android version for our device.
And even unbranded devices need the right CID for the right update unless we have achieved S-Off.
However i think there will always be enough experimental and also stable versions for any hboot version - thx to all the devs.
I didn't consider that even unbranded phones would need the right CID and hboot, so we're all in the same boat, branded and unbranded... Won't definitely buy another phone with locked bootloader, unless the s-off has been already achieved..
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
Because of the above I will NEVER go to a carrier store for a phone again!!
I think in a way we got unlucky this time round, since the hboot is not forward compatible with the sense ROM. Let's hope it's a one off rather than a new sinister plan, and future updates do not require an updated hboot.
Let's hope that, seriously.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
The very ....very best thing that could happen now is S-OFF so we can downgrade the hboot at any time so we can flash newer and older hboots in an instant !
But this is still very unlikely ! :thumbdown:
So I get this new OneX, and as usual, I come here to find a good rom and all that
I find ARHD 31.3 to be good thing, nearest to Sense 5(actually, is sense 5) and I read all Mike's OP. But somethings bug me, as I've never seen them, or did them before.
Firstly, do I need to do the CID thing that's there like how to flash a JB ROM...? Is it ICS specific, like coming from ICS...? I don't know whether HOX came with ICS, cuz mine runs 4.1.2 and I'm on HBoot above 1.3, or whatever.
Secondly, Mike's ROM got an boot.img in itself, so why do I need to download the extra boot.img file..? I know we gotta flash boot.img separately again, but why providing it extra...? If its ROM related, then explain, if its got to do something with noobs, then consider query answered.
Third, why is Mike's ROM 700MB!!!! When the OTA is about just 300 mb...? Just kidding I don't care if its 700GB Just need first question answered.
If you received JB update via OTA your good to flash arhd 31.3.
Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.
maxilick said:
If you received JB update via OTA your good to flash arhd 31.3.
Sent from my mind, eyes and fingers.
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the primary thing that bugs me is CID thing. surely by now, most of the HOX are running a JB ROM, so why does mike include all that confusing stuff in hi OP...? I'm no noob to android, and I've flashed my fair share of mods and ROMs, but this OneX is an exception. like i mentioned before, my hboot is 1.36.0000. my handset was manufactured in November. and yes the Sense5 update is trolling me, so I'm good to flash arhd now...?
alicarbovader said:
my hboot is 1.36.0000. my handset was manufactured in November. and yes the Sense5 update is trolling me, so I'm good to flash arhd now...?
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Yes, you are. Just go for it. My phone is on 31.2, with 1.36 hboot.
[email protected]|-|oR said:
Yes, you are. Just go for it. My phone is on 31.2, with 1.36 hboot.
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One more thing, will rooting and unlocking my HOX erase data on the sd partition too...? Cuz that kinda happened with my old htc desire and i wasn't too happy with that...
alicarbovader said:
One more thing, will rooting and unlocking my HOX erase data on the sd partition too...? Cuz that kinda happened with my old htc desire and i wasn't too happy with that...
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Didn't happen to me. You may be luckier
Seriously, while unlocking the bootloader, your data partition gets wiped, but system and sd card should remain untouched. Rooting, on the other hand has no impact to your phone's partitions.
With Desire it was different (had it too). I heard that One has the same situation.
With HOX things are like this...
[email protected]|-|oR said:
Didn't happen to me. You may be luckier
Seriously, while unlocking the bootloader, your data partition gets wiped, but system and sd card should remain untouched. Rooting, on the other hand has no impact to your phone's partitions.
With Desire it was different (had it too). I heard that One has the same situation.
With HOX things are like this...
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Got it unlocked and rooted. Now running ARHD for starters. Will soon be shifting to aosp