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Who would prefer Sense on the ET4G instead of TW?

I love the ET4G. I came from the 3D and as much as I hated the problems with the signal on that phone I liked Sense better.
Which would you prefer?

I love my EVO but I actually despise Sense. I think HTC has done a very thorough job of creating an identifying UI and I can see why some like it, but I can't stand the bloated pretense it harbors. IMO.
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I am one of the few who likes HTC Sense. TW is a nice change.. something different.

No way. Hate sense. "touchwiz" is just a launcher. We are as close to bone stock as we could be without being totally bone stock and I love it.
To each his own, of course.
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I prefer zeam
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I liked certain aspects of Sense... but I prefer TW on this phone for sure. Much more simple.

I like TW4.

Big fan of Touchwiz here.

Tw good *hulk speak*
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wont lie, if i could get sense running butter smooth like tw4 id take it.
i miss the contact intergration with sense when it comes to facebook and twitter.
by the way if anyone wants to follow me its @JUICEDUP216 lol

coming from the OG Evo, i really like touchwiz 4.0 over any version of sense i was running - tops 2.1

I haven't touched a Nexus phone in over a year - is that raw android or does that have a launcher?

boe said:
I haven't touched a Nexus phone in over a year - is that raw android or does that have a launcher?
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Nexus is always stock Android.

prefer the look of sense but like the fuctionality of tw4

Give me a pure AOSP with adw ex anyday over sense/blurr/tw
They all have great little functions but when it comes down to it all of them have something I hate
Id choose tw over sense if a gun was to my head and I couldnt ever get pure aosp
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Coming from a Nexus and having a Evo before i prefer Pure naked android over anything but this new touchwiz is my favorite manufacturer skin.

Really only miss my Evo 3D lockscreen.
Aosp is boring as hell. I use LauncherPro.
From what I've seen Ice Cream Sandwich will be something worth jumping to.

ICS launcher is already in XDA

difrent7 said:
Coming from a Nexus and having a Evo before i prefer Pure naked android over anything but this new touchwiz is my favorite manufacturer skin.
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I keep hearing this sentiment echoed. Is touchwiz any deeper than a launcher? I don't see any evidence of that. Sure, there are a few Samsung customizations here and there. Device specific options like the Screen mode, etc. Then there is the camera.apk and dialer.apk which is often different from phone to phone. But aside from that touchwiz seems to be just a launcher.
Sense, on the other hand, has it's hooks way deep down in the OS and at times probably in the hardware as well.
I haven't rooted yet, I've been busy, but I will tonight and I'm going to try to yank out touchwiz completely and make it as 'stock' as possible...something tells me that is going to be very easy.
All that said I've gotta admit Touchwiz is nowhere near the abomination that the Sense loving HTC crowd has always made it out to be. Sure, the icons are kinda goofy and the stock homescreen configuration (especially the main screen and wallpaper) is just embarrasing. But that can all be fixed with 10 minutes of no-root-required changes. It's fast, it's straight forward, it's light weight. It just looks like a mildly modified form of the stock launcher. I don't understand what the hate is, but, I also don't see how it is anything more than a launcher with native widgets...there are tons of those out there.
...I've always hated Sense....

I like TW because they aren't trying to do too much. I prefer it over Sense, but just by a little bit. I've gone back to Launcher Pro+ though. I am experiencing a little stutter at the start of switching homescreens however, but it's not horrible. I have widgets on every page which is causing this, but I know it's not the phone, but the OS.

Launcherpro

Anybody has a problem with Launcherpro on EK02?
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Launcher pro hasn't been updated in months. Switch to go launcher.
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kingsway8605 said:
Launcher pro hasn't been updated in months. Switch to go launcher.
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Not sure what problems he's having with launcherpro onEK02, it's running fine on mine but I could swear the options for themes had more than just a selection for what icons to use - which doesn't work. I can manually change them on the home screen though. Other than that everything is perfect.
I highly doubt development for launcherpro has stopped so the "just use go launcher" statement is a bit much. I've used it and love it but the general consensus is it drains the battery pretty quick. Other than that it's great but most people like to get that extra edge on battery life.

Development on LPP has been dead for almost a year. Users are pretty disappointed, and some flat out upset, judging by the hundreds of posts at the dev's last update feed (about gmail notifications being broken).
I have yet to make the jump because the paid version suits me so well, a bit better thsn GO/ADW.
With that said what problems are you experiencing with LPP and ek02? I'm running this without issues.

Launcher Pro has always worked well for me. I picked up ADW on the 10¢ sale, but haven't played with it much yet. But, my question is what problems everyone is having with Launcher Pro. I've used it for years across all my devices, including a Nook Color and it has always been great.

Sense = crap

after a few days i dont like how the syncing is handled, im getting a bit tired of the whole ui in general. it's just not pleasant anymore. I even tried to switch launchers to nova. Then realized how much better ics stock would be on this. Then nova decided to force close on me so its unusable on the one x. man these roms cant come quick enough, ditching sense asap. Anyone else feel sense gets real old really fast? Don't get me wrong i love the phone, and the screen really has me in awe. Just tired of sense and want a more stock experience.

I've got the one x after a year of using a Wildfire. I don't have any problems with sense 4.0

I actually like Sense 4, its more pleasing to use than vanilla ICS in my opinion but still keeps the best parts of the plain ICS theme.
At the end of the day, if you don't use the Sense widgets everything else is pretty much the same as stock to look at. The app drawer even flows the same way.
But messaging and other parts look better.

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No-Sense or Sense?

Hey guys,
I recently flashed between ARHD and LeeDroiD, both already fantastic ROMs, considering the Device just launched. Great respect for that dedication and support!
Tho, it seems both ROMs offer a No-Sense installation, or its possible.
AFAIK, Sense UI 4.0 still is pretty buggy. Memory Management is fuxort and causes Rosie Reboots every now and then. Plus, it seems like Sense / Rosie is causing the Phone to slow down a tad. When I use Trebuchet or Apex Launcher, Screen scrolling is WONDERFULLY smooth. Noticeably smoother than on my previous devices (Desire HD, Galaxy S2 i9100).
Question is: Even tho I always loved Sense UI, does removing Sense / Rosie speed up the phone in general? I would be perfectly fine with Apex or Trebuchet, as they run absolutely smooth so far, even with quite some widgets.
Thing is: I noticed alot of games acting up after a while, little lags every now and then, most likely a sign of cleaning up memory in the background to get the active App (in this case the game) more spare Memory to fill up. Sense UI and its Widgets seem to consume quite alot Memory, and because of the bugged memory management, it starts to lag more and more. After quitting the game, Rosie usually reboots.
I love Sense, always have, missed it alot after switching to the Galaxy S2 back in the days, but to speed up the phone and get rid of occasional lags, I would sacrifice Sense for the time being (until a new Firmware fixes issues).
I am still running Sense 4.0, but before I flash again, I would like to have your opinion and maybe experience with this matter.
Thanks guys!

You can use my ROM in pair with ROM cleaner and Nova Launcher
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Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Whoa, the chiefs are answering themselves
Guys, you 2 got GREAT ROMs running. Still flashing between them
I will try both Non-Sense'd ROMs. Sense really seems effin memory hungy. Hopefully it speeds things up for now
And you 2 keep the goodies commin'!

Your thread just got their attention, because you asked this question in the wrong forum. (-;
Next time pls ask such things in the Q&A forum or in the threads of the roms.

Moved to Q&A.
Please don't ask questions in Development Section.
Cheers
Whiskey
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A lot of users are waiting for AOSP Rom and I am of course one of them.
I am now using ATHENS in pair with From Cleaner and it is very fast.
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Hey,
This looks like a good place to ask this question ....
How are the Widgets in Sense 4.0 compare to Sense 3.x in quantity & options ?
Thank you in advance,
Itai.

LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Yeps and my rom on the phone arm
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Sorry for asking in the wrong section. I should've known better, considering for how long I am already a Member
I am currently trying No-Sense. The phone feels faster, indeed. Better response, apps start a little faster, haven't had a Launcher Reboot ever since (but I am using Apex instead of Nova as for now).
Too bad the Lockscreen-Shortcuts are gone, but thats normal since there's no HTC Sense Launcher anymore (Dock-Icons).

LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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LOL, Lee's sense stripper

I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on. Especially with launchers like Apex out there, lightweight and very fast plus customizable, I just don't get it.
Anyhow, we need a good camera alternative asap so we can go AOSP...

Sweeeeet, will try this as soon as I get my new unit.
Does anybod know if the camera UI is gone too or not?

geenyous said:
I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on.
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!

The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC

Ruudfood said:
Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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I don't like the calendar widget at all - I use a combination of simple calendar widget and business calendars week view, gives me more info over the next few days than a bunch of dots
As for notes I use catch, but there is one very good post it style note app out there but thats not the way I am using notes on my phone and my player of choice, PowerAmp has several nice widgets, so this is also not something I would miss.
What I like and would really miss are the camera app obviously, the tasks widget (for the ability to sync with G and exchange) and the mail app which is really nice. The AOSP is nice too though, so its acutally onle the camera app that will prevent me from going AOSP.
Most probably I am going to try this ROM, AOSP themed sense ROM, once the unlock before answering a call bug is squashed.

why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd

atrako1973 said:
why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...

geenyous said:
Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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I don't know how you like the stock camera app >.< Only thing good about it is the UI. Photo and video quality is atrociously bad. I LOVE the UI, but I can't take the horrible compression so I use Camera360 and save my images with no filters instead >.<

geenyous said:
After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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And did someone die in those "several secs"?

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Looks intressting!
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I've tried it and it is really nice, but I uninstalled it because it consumed too much battery and ram. The final version when it comes out I will definitely try again

I use it, it works pretty good.

I installed this launcher to try the Chrome OS theme from mycolorscreen, The Launcher is pretty good, but i just cannot leave the fast and fluid stock one.
http://mycolorscreen.com/2013/03/23/os-transfer/

Likes good...has anybody got it to work on Nexus 7?
Edit: never mind I got it working on Nexus 7

Nice launcher, but it needs a bit more development.

This is amazing. Just downloaded it and it runs beautifully and love how it comes pre set up.

Rather confusing launcher, I think I will try it out again and try to get the Chrome theme on it, but honestly wasn't impressed.

This is not just another launcher. A completely new launcher.
Congrats guys, very innovative. More innovative than apple and Samsung all together

Gotcha, now after watching the tutorial video I see the potential this launcher has. Great work!

Just a very very good launcher, I'm impressed !
Buy it's very annoying to have to download a lot of gadgets for it to be perfect.
And some french traduction of the main app and of the widget are awful, that makes the application hard to configure.

battery
it indeed eats too much battery...but i have to admit, it does look good

freeintruth said:
it indeed eats too much battery...but i have to admit, it does look good
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Drain battery but overall really nice launcher :good:

vicino said:
+1
Drain battery but overall really nice launcher :good:
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yea it does eat battery on more ram but wait till they sort that out i think mite be up there with nova apex ect one day

second thought: after a couple of days using this launcher and paying close attention to the battery usage, I have to say that it does not drain as much as i thought. I guess it depends on what homepack you download/use.
This launcher really makes my phone a lot better looking, with very little time and energy. And the customization freedom is huge!
I have now officially uninstalled Go Launcher.

freeintruth said:
second thought: after a couple of days using this launcher and paying close attention to the battery usage, I have to say that it does not drain as much as i thought. I guess it depends on what homepack you download/use.
This launcher really makes my phone a lot better looking, with very little time and energy. And the customization freedom is huge!
I have now officially uninstalled Go Launcher.
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Its alot closer to SSL Launcher but in a clean more user friendly interface. Can't wait for it to be stable now. I put the Chrome theme on it that was shared earlier and its sick! Trying to replicate the Chrome theme on other launchers like Apex and Nova using Multi-Live Wallpaper and its becoming even more tedious. This makes things alot easier when creating a theme for mycolorscreen.

Corrupt colors and textures.. I was seeing alpha channel instead with some textures.

Beautiful and innovative home screen, high battery+ram usage, boring app drawner
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This is a fantastic tool for customization, a congratulations to the app developers on this one. Let's hope it catches on and we get an influx of themes.