Hopefully somebody who has htis can shed some light on it.
If you're using MHL hdmi out, the unused micro USB port on the adapter needs to be fed power, correct?
So does that mean that if you're outputting via HDMI that you cannot utilize the USB OTG? Or will you have to use a powered hub to simultaneously drive the HDMI output and the USB OTG peripherals?
I don't think it will work like that. I tried plugging my OTG cable with a powered usb hub into the micro USB port on my MHL adapter. Even without an HDMI cable connected my phone would not detect my wireless mouse and keyboard.
Are you using the official mhl adapter?
erikikaz said:
Are you using the official mhl adapter?
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I'm using the official samsung S2 adapter with the samsung adapter tip
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I'm using the official samsung S2 adapter with the samsung adapter tip
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Weird, the whole point of Samsung going with the 11 pin was to enable USB OTG. Maybe it doesn't work with the adapter?
I guess I'll find out, the official adapter is in the mail, should be here Thurs.
Of course it wouldn't work with the adapter and an older cable. The adapter is only rearranging a 5pin power cable and hdmi to match the 11pin in the phone. 6 pins in the phone are still not used.
If I remember ill try it with the official S3 adapter later.
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i also really want to know if the samsung 11 pin (not adapter) will work with a powered USB hub and OTG ..
I think I saw somewhere that the adapter for the s2 and s3 are different. Don't know much just wanted to throw my 2 cents in
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773238
I tried this it worked.
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I was wondering if this would work so I won't have to buy a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and just use a USB combo with a powered hub instead:
Official MHL adapter -> hdmi to monitor
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>OTG cable> Powered USB hub> USB keyboard/mouse.
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Hi,
Is there some sort of USB hub for OTG?
I've ordered an adapter (micro usb to HDMI) to connect my note to the TV..
But i also wanted to connect my wireless keyboard & mouse.
Tried it with a hub but doesnt work..
Some ideas?
Can't have OTG and MHL work in the same time, choose one or the other.
You could go with DLNA and a wired OTG solution, you would fail.
Your only real option would be be MHL and using Bluetooth to connect keyboard/mouse/peripherals.
There's no dock. You can make your own though, just search the forum.
This thread can be closed down now.
I'll just add that MHL + Bluetooth is my method... although I've now lost MHL on CM10 so my dream combo is bust for the mo!
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You mean like this ?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12096140...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2577wt_702
and this is the one that I bought ...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17080557...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_3528wt_1193
basically what I want is a OTG cable that splits off to a regular mini USB as well.
what I'm trying to do is be able to plug my phone into the charger and be able to plug In a ps3 controller into the note 2 as well.
I know I can do this wirelessly because I already do this. But what if I'm gonna charge my ps3 controller and my note 2 at the same time?
the only way I see you can do this is taking USB OTG cable and then connect that to a USB Male to male. Take the one male and connect that to usb to adapter that splits into 2 males. One of those males will go into the charger and the other will connect to a USB mini adapter and connect ps3 controller to the mini adapter.
Sounds very confusing but sure if it work between all that.
What would be easier if they had a micro USB splitter that splits into a USB adapter and a mini USB.
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like this? http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Micro-US...Accessories&hash=item20cdc2cc21#ht_3873wt_906
I got this from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006365&highlight=otg+cable
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like this? http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Micro-US...Accessories&hash=item20cdc2cc21#ht_3873wt_906
I got this from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006365&highlight=otg+cable
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it's kind of like what I'm looking for but I'm kind of looking more of a micro USB with an adapter but also has a mini USB attachment too
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Or is there a micro USB to dual usb adapter so I can use a mouse and keyboard or other things
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umm... usb hub... they are everywhere. either that or unified receivers (one receiver that handles both the mouse and the keyboard) or since you are out buying all that crap just go out and buy Bluetooth keyboards and mice
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umm... usb hub... they are everywhere. either that or unified receivers (one receiver that handles both the mouse and the keyboard) or since you are out buying all that crap just go out and buy Bluetooth keyboards and mice
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That makes sense haha but here's a question can I use a 4 port usb hub to connect my charger to it to charge phone and connect mouse and keyboard as well as ps3 controller? Or do I need a hub with ac adapter?
Or will it not work? The usb connected to the wall charger connected to an adapter to the hub?
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I don't think it will work, the dock achieves this, probably by informing the phone that it's a dock, but the adapters rely on shorting the ground wire to tell the phone it needs to become an usb host. I don't have empirical data but my electronics training tells me the power supply (charger) wouldn't love a short on it's grounding and wouldn't charge the phone...also when going into usb otg mode the phone supplies power, so the charger would see this as a short or an over current situation and not charge.
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I don't think it will work, the dock achieves this, probably by informing the phone that it's a dock, but the adapters rely on shorting the ground wire to tell the phone it needs to become an usb host. I don't have empirical data but my electronics training tells me the power supply (charger) wouldn't love a short on it's grounding and wouldn't charge the phone...also when going into usb otg mode the phone supplies power, so the charger would see this as a short or an over current situation and not charge.
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Okay but could a use the usb hub and connect the keyboard and mouse and ps3 controller.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Okay but could a use the usb hub and connect the keyboard and mouse and ps3 controller.
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yes, just needs to be a powered hub
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yes, just needs to be a powered hub
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so this wont work i take it? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Q8UAWY/ref=gno_cart_title_1
because both mouse and keyboard would be using through Bluetooth adapter. i already use the mouse and it works through the regular Samsung otg cable.
Can that just work off from the Note 2's Power Supply?
it can only power 1 device, and barely. it outputs around 300mA which is enough for a usb stick, a mouse, a keyboard, or a controller, but not for external hard drives nor other phones your usb hub would have to be powered our else you may suffer reliability and connection problems with your keyboard mouse and controller. basically if you pressed a button on all three the phone would lose them all momentarily
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it can only power 1 device, and barely. it outputs around 300mA which is enough for a usb stick, a mouse, a keyboard, or a controller, but not for external hard drives nor other phones your usb hub would have to be powered our else you may suffer reliability and connection problems with your keyboard mouse and controller. basically if you pressed a button on all three the phone would lose them all momentarily
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Damn because that was cheap. Can you recommend anything of that sort then? Thanks for the help and info
Edit: could that 5$ hub I mentioned be able to just do both mouse and keyboard only without issues?
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Damn because that was cheap. Can you recommend anything of that sort then? Thanks for the help and info
Edit: could that 5$ hub I mentioned be able to just do both mouse and keyboard only without issues?
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not without issues... it would cut in and out specially if pressing them both at the same time
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not without issues... it would cut in and out specially if pressing them both at the same time
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anything you can recommend then? i saw this but not sure how it would work i mean its connected to the wall and if i connect a the mouse and keyboard how does my phone see it being connected seeing how its not connected directly to my phone?
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basically what I want is a OTG cable that splits off to a regular mini USB as well.
what I'm trying to do is be able to plug my phone into the charger and be able to plug In a ps3 controller into the note 2 as well.
I know I can do this wirelessly because I already do this. But what if I'm gonna charge my ps3 controller and my note 2 at the same time?
the only way I see you can do this is taking USB OTG cable and then connect that to a USB Male to male. Take the one male and connect that to usb to adapter that splits into 2 males. One of those males will go into the charger and the other will connect to a USB mini adapter and connect ps3 controller to the mini adapter.
Sounds very confusing but sure if it work between all that.
What would be easier if they had a micro USB splitter that splits into a USB adapter and a mini USB.
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What you want is a 11 PIN micro USB splitter (not made yet but will be) and a Mini female to micro male USB cable adapter (amazon).
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini...USB+Female+to+mini+USB+Male+Adapter+Converter
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What you want is a 11 PIN micro USB splitter (not made yet but will be) and a Mini female to micro male USB cable adapter (amazon).
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini...USB+Female+to+mini+USB+Male+Adapter+Converter
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Mini to micro isn't going to help me that only solves ps3 controller. But I already have that down with the otg cable or wirelessly. I want a cable like that has a micro to the usb adapter(otg) that also splits into a usb male. Or a micro to dual usb adapter.
Or to do all at once a powered hub like the other guy had mention
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only thing is to buy the dock
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only thing is to buy the dock
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1 thing is that it's 100 dollars. second thing is basically I can't put in horizontal mode if I want to use a keyboard and mouse and browse the Internet I don't want to browse it straight up and down. not to mention if I want to play games as well if I'm using ps3 controller to charge it at the same time I can't do that. who wants to play games tilting their head to watch because of the fact that the phone is mounted vertically instead of horizontally.
I mean I don't understand why it so hard to find a micro USB to a dual USB adapters I mean that shouldn't be that hard to make haha. with that I can use a keyboard and mouse using Unifying receiver. and then the other USB adapter can go straight to the ps3 controller.
So it would be called micro usb male to dual usb female
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1 thing is that it's 100 dollars. second thing is basically I can't put in horizontal mode if I want to use a keyboard and mouse and browse the Internet I don't want to browse it straight up and down. not to mention if I want to play games as well if I'm using ps3 controller to charge it at the same time I can't do that. who wants to play games tilting their head to watch because of the fact that the phone is mounted vertically instead of horizontally.
I mean I don't understand why it so hard to find a micro USB to a dual USB adapters I mean that shouldn't be that hard to make haha. with that I can use a keyboard and mouse using Unifying receiver. and then the other USB adapter can go straight to the ps3 controller.
So it would be called micro usb male to dual usb female
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here's what I don't understand if I take that USB hub connect it to the adapter that I have, and have the USB Bluetooth and keyboard bluetooth in there at the same time, I shouldn't have issues because if im browsing the internet I'm not going to be typing keys on the keyboard and moving the mouse at the same time. so in theory I can move the mouse around Lets say go to the address bar stop using the mouse and go to the keyboard and start typing on the keyboard. so basically I will only be using 1 port at a time. instead of moving the mouse and typing keys at the same time I won't be doing something like that just be ridiculous haha.
so can I use that Belkin USB 4 port and just basically use the two USB Bluetooth hooked up to it. so the port will be connected to the OTG cable. if this makes sense I'll connect the OTG cable to the hub and the 2 Bluetooth to the hub
because if I honestly wanted if I wanted to play video games like grand theft auto I can use the keyboard to type cheats and stuff. use the keyboard through the OTG cable. and connect my ps3 controller wirelessly.
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here's what I don't understand if I take that USB hub connect it to the adapter that I have, and have the USB Bluetooth and keyboard bluetooth in there at the same time, I shouldn't have issues because if im browsing the internet I'm not going to be typing keys on the keyboard and moving the mouse at the same time. so in theory I can move the mouse around Lets say go to the address bar stop using the mouse and go to the keyboard and start typing on the keyboard. so basically I will only be using 1 port at a time. instead of moving the mouse and typing keys at the same time I won't be doing something like that just be ridiculous haha.
so can I use that Belkin USB 4 port and just basically use the two USB Bluetooth hooked up to it. so the port will be connected to the OTG cable. if this makes sense I'll connect the OTG cable to the hub and the 2 Bluetooth to the hub
because if I honestly wanted if I wanted to play video games like grand theft auto I can use the keyboard to type cheats and stuff. use the keyboard through the OTG cable. and connect my ps3 controller wirelessly.
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wowowow, no, keyboard, mice and ps3 will only be afected if they are wiered or rf. bluetooth devices wont interfere with each other, you can have a ton of devices on bluetooth and not even need the usb otg... you dont need a buetooth adapter for this, phone, it comes with bluetooth, so any bluetooth item should work with the phone while it's charging without needing the usb otg cable at all. ps3 controllers are bluetooth by default. you dont need to plug them to the phone.
Now that my HOX has JB, I'm looking to get a USB OTG cable. However I want to know if there is a way to get say a USB hub to plug into the OTG cable and then connect a MHL cable into the hub to watch films and use a mouse to control it?
Good question. I don't think that will work. It would need to be directly connected to the USB port for MHL output. I don't have a phone with OTG, but as far as I know USB hubs can be used for keyboards, mice, gaming controllers and pen drives (someone correct me if I'm wrong), but not for MHL. You can use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse though, if you want.
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Just a quick question, can I use an MHL adapter and a USB stick at the same time?
With a Y cable like this one: (http://originus.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00023991/24159/) So instead of adding the power, I'll use a OTG with a USB stick.
Thanks in advance!
GN 3 Requires MHL 2.0, different interface
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I have used a usb hub with the mhl 2 adaptor and a wireless mouse so there should be no problem using a usb stick as well.