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I am running AOKP M3 with franco kernel #15.2, turtle governor, 350/1000 w/ stock franco voltages. I also modded the auto brightness levels to ones of the MID mod. I use WiFi at home; I have set the power saver to switch to 2G after 1m of screen off time. However, I an unable to get more than 2-2.5h of screen on time no matter what I try. I plan to purchase the extended battery, but in the meanwhile what can I do to improve the battery life? I have the GSM phone.
Thanks in advance!
I've tried all sorts of stuff and 2 and a half hours is the most i've been able to get.
In order to do that I was using mostly wifi, auto brightness and I had undervolted as much as possible.
I've tried all different kernels and i've just accepted the fact that with this phone and the way I use it that's as good as it's going to get. To be honest i'm satisfied with that because in order for me to get 2+ hours of screen on time it has to be my day off, otherwise i'm too busy.
Also, i'm pulling 14-16 hours per charge with 2-2.5 hours of screen on time which in my opinion is great. I just want it to last all day and for me it does.
Try LeanKernel.
I get at least 4 hours battery life with:
Version: GSM GNex
ROM: AOKP Milestone 3 (power saver mode off)
Kernel: Lean Kernel
Battery: 2000 mAh
Frequency: 350/1200 Conservative
UV: Stock
3G/HSPA/LTE: 3G/HSPA and my network doesn't support 2G
What's off: BT, WiFi unless I'm home, Sync for Calender Contacts Browser and Photos.
Brightness: About 40-50%
Daily, I use: Netflix/Poweramp/Spotify/Reddit on my daily commute. Phone/Poweramp/Spotify/Reddit/Browser+ in between commute.
Even without the extended battery like you I would at least get 3.5 hours.
#1- people getting over 3 hours of screen time are on wifi the whole time, have 4g off, are minimalists with no syncing and no voice calls, or a combination of any of these.
#2 - based on your graph you have a lot of wake locks. Look at how often your phone is awake when your screen is off. That is KILLING your battery life. Disable or uninstall rogue apps, and turn off GPS and location services seems to help with this. Also reduce your amount of sync intervals if you can.
I have stock 4.0.2 unrooted GSM with extended battery.
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#2 - based on your graph you have a lot of wake locks. Look at how often your phone is awake when your screen is off. That is KILLING your battery life. Disable or uninstall rogue apps, and turn off GPS and location services seems to help with this. Also reduce your amount of sync intervals if you can.
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Look at the betterbatterystats for wakelocks; looks like lookout kept half an hour, the rest are mostly sync.
Try to remove all widgets for a while. This can rule things out.
I'm running the exact same thing M3 with Franco 15.2 except I have the extended battery. This is with almost 0 idle time. Literally playing games, rrading forums, texting, etc.
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Sorry posted wrong one. Here is my screen time.
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Aww c'mon *cry*
I only have the calendar, clock and palmary weather widges (6 hour auto update). As far as I can tell Lookout and Sync are the *****es - literally. But that doesn't solve the idle drain, with the phone sleeping, it seems like 2-3% every hour or something like that.
That doesn't sound right. I have everything running as well. I don't use lookout any longer though. I'm sure if I just did the idle test I can get over a day of on battery time and still reach nearly 5 hours of on screen time. That's mostly Wifi which is suppose to drain more battery life, but I haven't seen the difference from being on 3G. This is a good set up.
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I don't know if this is important but its a good note, I have not touched the performance settings or done any UV, not experienced enough, but I still produced those results.
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I think you should try removing lookout. Take for example my awake times when screen is off. I sync Gmail, photos,remember the milk, and beautiful widgets.
Also major battery awake drain in beginning of my graph is due to streaming Google music when screen was off so perfectly normal.
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Alright, I will remove Lookout. What alternative do you recommend, in case someone pick pockets my phone? Preferably free or cheap w/ Internet access. I'm thinking of Cerberus, as it'll be impossible for any wanna be thief to remove; I suppose the 3 EUR license is for device, right? Does it persist through ROM flashes (i.e. based on IMEI).
As for WiFi drain, on 3G it would be worse - it's longer range thus it needs more power and if the signal is bad (lucky I get top notch at home, not so at school), it's even worse.
When I get some more cash I'll order the extended battery and a dock off eBay, then I'll have a large main battery and the original one as a reserve.
EDIT: I've added the stats for this day. Better overall, the phone was used more intensively so getting a bit higher screen on time is good. I disabled Google Talk, I see it keeping the phone awake for a significant time, but I never use it. I also get rid of Palmary Weather and switched to the built in app, I'll see tomorrow how it goes.
The screenshots on the original post show sharp increase in battery drain when there is a) screen on and b) no mobile network signal.
In my opinion, these are two if the biggest culprits. The screen is obviously a power hog, especially with max brightness, and the lack of a network signal forces the phone to increase power to the radio in order to find a stable connection.
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In my opinion, these are two if the biggest culprits. The screen is obviously a power hog, especially with max brightness, and the lack of a network signal forces the phone to increase power to the radio in order to find a stable connection.
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Well with the screen there's nothing you can do; A big screen will use a lot of power, a dense screen with use a lot of power, both is even worse. If this were an LCD instead of OLED the battery life with Holo would be horrible. Turning the brightness even lower than my tuned auto levels is not an option - the phone would be impossible to use due to the glossy nature of glass. As for the network, I can't do anything about that - the school building is built from reinforced concrete, that sucks up the signal pretty well and it's downtown, where the signal is already quite shoddy; at home I have a celullar tower 1km away so I get excellent reception, not so downtown.
But I'm not complaining about those. I mean the background activity, mostly the idle wake time. I'll see what I get tomorrow now that I killed Lookout and Talk, those seemed to be two major hogs.
Seems like you have a lot of awake time. Try disabling Maps, Google+ and remove all widgets and test it for a day. If it is better now, you have ruled out signal problems.
Is there any way to reduce the interval of Google sync events? (gtalk_async_conn) When I was at home on WiFi I got a sync maybe once every few hours (seen as wake). As soon as I left and turned WiFi off the sync was like every 10 minutes, which is weird, as in the AOKP ROM Control power save settings I set it to PREFER WiFi.
Why do I get a LOT more sync wakelocks on mobile data than on WiFi when the ROM is set to prefer WiFi syncs?
best pattery save I have found is turning off various radios
I use an app Profile that can turn on/off bluetooth and wifi based upon the time of day. So it turns on wifi at 7 PM M-F and turns it off at 6 AM when I leave for work. I get great battery life, and I think it is due to the radios I turn on and off.
LeanKernel stable... all the way!!... ive tried his OC 1.42/230 but you start feeling the drainage...
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Believe it or not, activating wi-fi when I'm at home has actually increased my battery life substantially. No need to even turn it off; at the end of the day, it takes about 2% of your total battery life.
Care to post the "Power saving" app you are using, TC? The one that can activate 3G after the screen turns off? For so long I've been looking for such a powersaving app.
I amusing Battery XL at the moment, can't see that much energy savings..
Not using it
Seriously, though, there is a thread in the General forum that goes through many of the ways to improve battery life. I personally have found that battery savers just do not do what I want, and sometimes they use more battery when installed. I like to set it all manually. It is a lot of work to set up, but the battery savings can be great.
A lot of it requires root access, but I think this is a must in any case, even if only to be able to set up a firewall.
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I amusing Battery XL at the moment, can't see that much energy savings..
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It's useless,
there're steps for saving batteries.
1. Reduce brightness to less than 30% during indoor, this should be enough for most people;
2. Turn off mobile data and use only wifi whenever you in wifi-spot
3. Don't always use live-wallpaper
battery saver apps are designed to kill apps/processes to reduce battery usage. however, this ends up being a waste of time as these apps and processes will often reopen themselves after. so you end up in a boot-kill loop for every app, which ends up using more CPU cycles which ends up killing the battery faster.
you're better off leaving these apps in the background since they dont use CPU cycles when theyre inactive.
if you want to save battery, turn off wifi and bluetooth when youre not using them. otherwise your device will constantly waste battery by trying to ping local wifi hotspots and bluetooth devices.
turn the screen brightness down and use dark backgrounds. on amoled displays, black means LED off which means no power consumption. white means LED on which means full power consumption (a white screen on an amoled display consumes more than twice the amount of power an LCD display would use).
dont use live wallpapers.
turn off mobile data when youre not using it. or if this is inconvenient for you, disable any widgets that constantly use your data (ie. weather widgets) or set their update interval to every 3 hours or so (lets face it... who needs to know how much the temp changes every minute...).
I open this thread to help the users having bad battery life and find out the possible resolutions. Whenever you see the bad battery life, in most of the cases it would be caused by some specific apps or the way you are using the phone and it's not from the ROM itself.
As you may know, I'm working on Kobridge Tweaks and trying to improve the performance and battery life but there're lots of variances that we still don't know and have to know.
So, let's work together to find out the better solutions!
In here, please share your screenshots and your settings. But, don't post with just simple words - it's good or it's bad. We need the following information when you post;
1. Your ROM related info - Rom name, version
2. Kernel/modem version
3. Any additional apps installed
4. Any tweaks that you did by yourself
5. When you post, please add the screenshots -
(how to capture screenshots -> ICS: vol down + power button at the same time or if this function does not work then try screenshot it (trial) or pro (paid)
Full screenshots showing (from better battery stats, download it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 )
a. Since unplugged - other, partial wakelocks, kernel wakelock, alarms, process
b. since charged - same as 'since unplugged'
(Be sure that when you take the screenshots, reset the counters between since unplugged & charged)
System tuner pro or cpu spy -
c. CPU utilization diagram.
d. CPU times (system tuner pro)
Download - System Tuner, System Tuner Pro (Paid), CPU Spy
Other Tools Download -
Battery Monitor Widget, Battery Monitor Widget Pro(paid), Badass Battery Monitor, Badass Battery Monitor Pro (Paid)
Just normal screenshots from
e. settings > battery (1)
f. click on the graph (2)
g. click on the screen (3)
h. all Kobridge tweak log files - /data/log/kobridge_tweakxx.log if you are using Kobridge tweaks.
Kobridge - General Settings to extend the battery life
General Settings or Configuration to extend battery life
This is an initial edition. I'm going to update and add more information here.
Original post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625299
I've worked on this part so long time since I've started using ICS ROM. I also tried almost every battery saver apps but didn't get any better result using my own method because sometimes there are lots of overheads using it (I'm trying to avoid describing any individual app's pros and cons in here and just provide you the better way to configure your phone).
The information in here is based on FF18 rooted stock rom/modem/kernel. But it's not limited to any specific phone or build. You could probably use it in any phones or builds.
1. Wifi
Some of you understand that wifi is faster than 3G and use less battery than 3G. You also say that 4G is the biggest monster consuming lots of battery. But that would be true and false.
Sometimes, wifi uses lots of battery to get the faster speed and keep the connection.
There could be multiple scenarios in here and below is based on my test -
Original post can be found in here
WIFI - I always turned on at home (because wifi is available) with 'never' option. In this case, 3G will cover the data communication if 3g turned on during the deep sleep. If wifi signal is so strong, even you don't need to turn on 3G and use the wifi during the sleep mode by changing the wifi option.
If you don't need the data communication during sleep mode, then turn off 3G and make wifi sleep (never) during the sleep mode. With this option, your battery could last about 2 hours per 1% drop.
3G - you need to compare between 3G and wifi. Which one is better and use less battery based on the signal strength.
For me, I'm using both 3G and wifi turned on. Using these two options turned on, I make the data communication available always and these two are compromising each other.
OK, here are some screenshots from 3.4M (check the original post link above). From 100% to 65%, I turned on 3G, so it covers the wifi when wifi sleeps during the deep sleep. From 65% to 45%, I turned off 3G, so during the deep sleep, both wifi and 3G were not available. When screen turned on wifi only came back (if you are not a heavy user, this method will save lots of battery).
Based on what I said, I've tested couple of things-
1. Battery life when wifi turned on 24x7
2. Battery life when 3G turned on 24x7
1. When wifi turned on 24x7 (turned on even screen is off), my phone shows that there were about 2.5% drop in every hour (100% > 73% about in 9.5 hours)
2. Wehn 3G turned on 24x7 (no wifi, no 4G), the battery consumption was much slower than wifi. (73% > 62% about in 14 hours). A little more than 1 hour per 1% drop.
Based on my test with minimum wifi, 3G usage, it shows that 3G saves a lot more battery during the standby mode. This result could be different based on your area and signal strength.
Now I showed many things related to wifi, 3G and how it affects the battery life.
Only one thing that I did not test is 4G. It's really hard to make a test using 4G inside of my office because I don't have 4G signal at all. What I can try is, 4G random reboot issue. I'll try to turn on 4G and see if it happens....
2. 3G
Keeping 3G turned on is a good habit. Because it covers wifi and 4G whenever those are not available. 3G uses battery a lot less than wifi and 4G (it could be different based on your signal strength)
Howto keep it on: setting -> more -> mobile networks -> check 3G DATA
Like I said before, if you have a reasonably good 3G signal, then you may want to turn off wifi and 4G to save the battery.
3. 4G
Just like wifi, minimize turning on 4G network. This use a lot of battery if you are in the bad reception area. If the signal strength is really good, then it would be probably ok keeping 4G turned on. In some cases, 4G would be the only solution to watch the movies, streaming videos when the wifi is not available.
Based on my limited test, using 4G in good reception area is much better than using wifi with low/weak signal.
4. Call option
Mark checkbox for Turn on proximity sensor for your convenience even there would be a little battery drain. But if you are a heavy talker, then I recommend to uncheck this option and use the power button to go back to control mode.
5. Sound
Lower the sound/vibration level within the acceptable range for you. There would be some differences on battery behavior by turning off or on of sound/vibration. But I don't want to recommend anything in here because I don't want you to lose any incoming calls/messages/etc.
6. Display
Automatic brightness should be fine in most cases. It's really related to screen on time battery consumption. I don't want to deal with this option at this time.
Pulse notification light, display battery percentage - turn it on or off based on your preference. Battery consumption by turning on these options would be minimal. I saw that some people said that they recommend to turning off the 'pulse notification light'. But I don't agree with that. One blinking LED light almost does not use any battery!
display timeout - I set it with highest value provided. After using the phone, I manually press the power button to go to sleep mode. With short timeout value, I have to keep press the button or screen to keep the screen on. I don't like this method.
Turn on 'Auto adjust screen power'.
7. Power saving mode
I always keep this option off because I do not want to lose anything because of low battery. I would rather change the numbers in my tweak (battery profile 2 in scaling tweak).
8. Account and sync
Most of time, I keep this option turned off. This would be one of the battery eating monster. I would rather individually sync the apps whenever I need it or from the actual apps.
9. Battery
when you charge the battery and phone shows that 100% charged, unplug the cable few seconds and plug-in again to charger. Repeat this couple of times and your battery would be really fully charged. Many times, even phone shows 100% charged, it could be the minimum 100% range. Actually, there's some voltage allowed and considered as 100% charge. But by maximizing the voltage during the charge, your battery life could be extended.
10. Motion
Turn off this option if you don't need this.
11. email
If possible, turn off the option that pushing email immediately. Instead, put the retrieval interval as long as you can. Based on my test, it could extend your battery life as maximum as couple of hours. In my case, I put the 2 hours interval. By doing this, your phone is much easier to enter the 'deep sleep' mode.
12. Startups
For me, I don't allow the apps automatically start during the boot as much as possible. If it's the system app and critical app for the phone's normal operation, then you have to allow those startups but otherwise, you can disable the startup apps based on your test.
For this, I usually use Rom Toolbox and/or System Tuner Pro. These apps allow us to enable or disable the startup apps.
For any apps like I don't use frequently or at all, I disable the apps from the 'event' (rom toolbox) or startups (system tuner pro). Once you disable the startups, you may need some test to see what happens when you manually launch the apps. If your app does not start normally, then go back and enable the event again.
There's also one more battery eating moster - widgets (currently doing some experimental test on it)
Regardless of widgets are in foreground screen or just stays in widgets folder, almost same amount of battery could be used by widgets to make it upto dated and refresh the connections, etc.
So, if you don't need the widget or don't use, go to (from Rom Toolbox) Auto Start Manager -> Applications -> select app you want to check -> it will show that widget updating is enabled or not. If it's enabled and you don't want it, just disable it. Then the app is not going to use that specific widget and actually widget will disappear from widgets folder.
Kobridge - Recommended APK settings to save the battery
I'm going to add the recommended APK settings in here to save the battery.
How to adjust Kobridge tweaks - guide to modify the Kobridge Tweak settings!
Known Battery Monsters
Best screenshots - worst ever or best ever!
It's a good thing that no one is posting here
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Maybe should change name to good battery life? I've used your tweaks sense I 1st flashed a ROM even though I'm still noobish I never had a problem...
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before i saw who posted this, i thought someone was calling u out kobridge =P
fryingpan0613 said:
It's a good thing that no one is posting here
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epic4gfaded said:
Maybe should change name to good battery life? I've used your tweaks sense I 1st flashed a ROM even though I'm still noobish I never had a problem...
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It doesn't matter that even you have a good battery life, then please show us how you are getting the 'Good one' with your screenshots and settings if you think it would help others.
Thank you guys!
I saw that some people said that they recommend to turning off the 'pulse notification light'. But I don't agree with that. One blinking LED light almost does not use any battery!
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It's not that the blink uses battery, it's that the blink causes your phone to wake up from its Deep Sleep and use the 200 MHz state of your processor. This wakelock takes away battery.
Thanks for the guide though. Looking forward to getting better battery life. I'm currently on CM9 though so I can't use your tweaks Just waiting for an AOKP build that switches /emmc and /sdcard back around to the way it should be
Edit: Just got System Tuner Pro... seems very complicated but I followed your startup advice
Per OP's request. Thread closed for now.
What's a good figure for battery life on the GS3? The best I've got is about 31 hours using on demand and bfq. Any one got better life using other settings? I heard someone getting about 43 hours life but that seemed to be a little unbelievable. Let me know what your getting
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What you reported is definitely "the average". Most actually only get a day, if they're lucky of moderate use and have to plug in before sleep every evening and get going on charge in morning. So its more like 15 hours actually. And your 31 max is very common high end for people who've stretched it out.
I'm not sure if you're stock rom or not and if rooted either but that makes a big difference.
I'm rooted ( and would ALWAYS RECOMMEND ROOT FOR EVERYONE EVEN UF NOT FLASHING ANY ROMS AND STAYING ON STOCK. The ability to have full control is important.
Changing kernels and more importantly, undervolting, will give you that longer life you're looking for.
I'm currently on KyanROM with either Ktoonez or Faux kernel (heavily tweaking and testing both) and have this phone beautifully undervolted to exceptionally low and very stable mv numbers! Thus getting me that lovely 36-45hour average (you mentioned you saw posted elsewhere - yes it is possible and many are doing it). I basically only need to plug in every OTHER EVENING or night between 6pm and midnight depending on usage and I'm a moderate to heavy user (with a lovely 3-5 hours of screen time as well) AND I also have my phone overclocked to 1.8Ghz! Surprisingly, the oc doesn't make much battery life impact at all because the phone isn't constantly having to run at high levels, only in short spurts. Actually, due to rooting and kernel change I'm able to have my phone run as low as 192Mhz during much of its general activity and deep sleep ( which I get a ton of as my phone basically always goes into it when the screen goes off). This saves me A LOT of battery life.
I also use LTE, which is actually one of the biggest if not the largest battery hog, next to screen time of course. But with that being said I only use it when needed and have it turned off when not in use.
As for my peak I was able to squeeeeeze out 87 hours once, on my stock battery BUT that was with some abnormal(for me) measures that really help conservation. Ie, no LTE, under clocked to 1.2Ghz for good part of the three days, much less then normal screen time over the period of which I used it at lowest level with even further reduction via screen filter, I actually used airplane mode during my three overnight sleeps (which I seldom use but if you can hack it, do it! It can really save battery overnight. My current setup basically SIPS MY BATTERY AT 1% EVERY 3.5-4 HOURS OVERNIGHT WHEN IN AIRPLANE MODE), mobile data was off for most of time but did use my wifi at normal level (wifi uses less especially if good signal with few reconnects/scans), used my typical low UV numbers, kept my notification updates/syncs/wakelocks to a minimum and lastly kept my memory virtually clear if unnecessary background apps.
Doing ALL of this allowed me to get OVER THREE DAYS BATTERY LIFE. But keep in mind I seldom do many of these battery saving tips on a regular basis but some do and if you can, they WILL work to extend your life substantially!
To wrap up (this long winded post/reply) I'll give you my general UV mv range numbers and the typical everyday simple battery saving methods I use.
1.My voltage at lowest clock of 192mhz=800mv with gradual (smooth and almost linear curve) increase up to a mere 1200mv at a whopping 1.890Ghz clock.
I use NOOP scheduler with ONDEMAND governor most of the time, sometimes SmartassV2.
My screen off and deep sleep use this lowest 192 clock speed and with no wakeup lag.
2. I use my screen at 0% brightness most of the time (except when outside or in high lighting environment). I use the brighrness widget app to control this as it is easier and works better then stock settings. I actually even further reduce my brightness with Scree Filter App. That app is awesome and often use it solely for brightness control because it has full control and can dim it to basically full black if wanted. Which is MUXH lower then stock control. Fyi I use my phone a LOT more at night or in dark environment thus allowing me to dim screen HEAVILY yet it still is actually plenty bright with ample contrast in dark environments to do everything. This saves on my battery HUGE!
3. I use LTE when needed and GSM/HSPA+ when not. Seldom turn of mobile data altogether. I do turn off wifi when out and only using mobile data.
4. I use Screebl app to have screen turn off when not in use. Its great liitle app. Basically let's you turn down screen timeout to 15 seconds or less so screen is never unnecessarily on but it always stays on when in use due to the accelerometer and it knows when the screen is not flat on table! Its very annoying when browsing or doing stuff where screen isn't touched for long periods and the screen goes to sleep! But this stops that! So its always on when upright or in use and when phone down it turns off immediately.
5. Very important step and can take some time and research but making sure to keep partial wakelocks and apps keeping device awake to a bare minimum! DEEP SLEEP IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SAVE BATTERY! You basically want it to go into that every time your screen goes off and to stay in it uninterrupted for as long as possible. And many users phones are NOT making it into deep sleep due to partial wakelocks and they don't even know it or how to fix it. Not getting deep sleep can unnecessarily kill your battery!
I use a few tools here: Better Battery Stats/GSAM Battery Monitor/Battery Monitor Widget from within System Tuner Pro (which is my also my main and highly recommended tuner app for CPU oc/uc and UV,etc.).
These apps really help to determine what, if any, apps are causing partial wakelocks ( displaying in wake number amounts and overall wake time) allowing you to determine what to do to fix the problem and let the phone gets as much battery saving deep sleep as possible.
6.I'm not big on auto app killers and actually recommend against them as Android ICS does this already very effectively but do keep in mind that the more active background memory that is used, the more battery the battery is drained. So I personally kill unnecessary apps myself from the background whenever possible to save a little battery here and there. Using the apps listed above in #5 can really help to detect a nasty background app or service that is quite possibly unknowingly using a ton of CPU and/or memory, thus draining more battery and also often just slowing down your phone!
7. For those who can use it Airplane Mode is a big saver! Try overnights if wanted as long as missing notifications, emails, calls, updates, etc is alright for you. I seldom use it but it does help.
8. I almost never use my Bluetooth and GPS but when I do that is the ONLY time they are on. They get turned off immediately and really be careful with the GPS in particular because you might be surprised how many things on your phone will use it in the background, sucking your battery!
9. Be careful with sound and vibration levels. Haptic feedback too. I don't do much here but its anotherctip nonetheless.
10. Lastly is treating and charging your battery right! I found an amazing site linked down below in a couple of articles that really explains these batteries and how they work in a very in depth technical level this is still not too hard to follow. Aside from the two links I posted check out the others on the left menu as there is a ton of useful and educational info!
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_increase_the_runtime_of_your_wireless_device
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
OK I've rambled on waaay too long here. Maybe I'll take this and post a battery savings tips thread with it lol. "10 points"!
Btw I've just received both my 3300mAh and 4400mAh capacity batteries. So I have much testing to do on those too and I plan on reporting back on them as well. Also with screenshots for data and proof...I can and will also post screenshots for all of the numbers and stats I've posted here today with my personal phone/battery accomplishments.
Hope this helps some of you out there because yes this phone can be known for terrible battery life but it CAN be tweaked to SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVE that life to high standards and keep up with the best of them!
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On Stock battery - Kyan Rom/Ktoonez kernel (at this moment)
Seems about right. My phone is completely stock and if I really wanted to I could even use it for 2 work days. I usually charge it over night though. I used it for 2 days though while at work, and with 3 hours of screen on time I was down to 7% battery. Around 40 hours on.
I was stocked rooted using Sammy kernel. On demand BFQ. I'll try on demand noop and see if that helps. My screen was about 35% brightness.
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Can I hijack a little here? My battery seems to be atrocious. It was okay stock after my first 3 full charges I was getting about 12 hours and 2.5 screen time.
Here is what I've done with my phone since:
Flashed to debloated stock Rom
disabled remaining unneeded apps (example ATT wifi app)
disabled Wifi
disabled bluetooth
disabled GPS
disabled GPS autorun states
disabled 4g
disabled autobrightness, set to 15%
disabled location reporting
disabled Push email with Exchange
disabled Motion
disabled auto google backup
disabled keytones and vibrate on all button presses
disabled touch key lights
disabled Svoice
disabled streaming on googleplay, only plays from memory card
disabled Google Now
fixed the cell standby bug (even though it may not impact battery figured wth)
Uninstalled FB
Set all Autosync accounts and email to sync only once per day
No widgets (only Google play music, Smemo note, flashlight, and folders)
Running save power mode for low power screen, no haptic, and auto adjust screen to blacks
Running mostly black wallpaper, No live wallpaper.
Running medium intensity vibration
I ran battery stats and got a lot of wakelocks from googlemaps and exchange so I disabled the push email and set it to once a day. Google maps I disabled latitude, and shut down the autostarts with gemini.
It's getting to the point where the phone is basically a dumbphone just so the battery can make it while it sits next to me at work. Today I have 48% after 8 hours and 50 minute screen time and 20 minutes of google play (only playing from on SD card not streaming).
Any ideas? It seems like I'm getting less than average.
All I did was also flash debloated rooted stock. Set to top out at 1.5ghz power save on. On demand BFQ schedule. Screen brightness as low as I can to still read. And got 32ish hours. I'm going to try OnDemand and noop like the other guy said and UV a lot more and see how close to 40 hours I can get
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All I did was also flash debloated rooted stock. Set to top out at 1.5ghz power save on. On demand BFQ schedule. Screen brightness as low as I can to still read. And got 32ish hours. I'm going to try OnDemand and noop like the other guy said and UV a lot more and see how close to 40 hours I can get
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Can u link me on the bfq? Having troublefinding what that is.
Also, is that the built in power save that limits the processor or some other software?
I believe if you flash Sammy kernel it has bfq. I am on task's CM10 and kernel and battery life seems poor compared to CM9 or stock rooted
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I have a rooted G2/Desire Z. What are some ways that I could save battery? It seems it takes only a few hours for it to reach 50%. Granted the phone is now >2 years old and the battery is probably aging. I've done all the basics such as screen brightness set to auto, dim after 30 seconds, etc. etc. etc. What more could I do?
Alternatively, are there any apps that can control the phone/cpu to work a certain way to save battery life?
Thanks
valeous said:
I have a rooted G2/Desire Z. What are some ways that I could save battery? It seems it takes only a few hours for it to reach 50%. Granted the phone is now >2 years old and the battery is probably aging. I've done all the basics such as screen brightness set to auto, dim after 30 seconds, etc. etc. etc. What more could I do?
Alternatively, are there any apps that can control the phone/cpu to work a certain way to save battery life?
Thanks
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Setcpu,set screen off profile to lower clock..freeze some bloatware up..and also try v6 supercharger
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Easiest way:
Uninstall fabebook app, flash a sense rom where you can access most fb functions without the app.
For real, my battery life went from about 10% an hour to 4% an hour on average.
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Honestly, way number 1 is to get a new battery. Old batteries just start to drain much faster as they get older. Pick up an Evo Design 4G stock battery for a nice boost.
2. Turn brightness off auto and put it as low as you can handle. Keep a brightness slider on your notification bar for those situations you need to turn it up quickly.
3.Turn everything that "syncs" off of push and set it for 1hour+ intervals if possible.
I have had great standby time using the OC daemon that is packaged with the mimicry ROM as well.
There is this trick that helps. On a monthly bases drain the battery and re-charge with the phone on ie also a good Rom an a good radio version like .19 will keep your battery good don't use lots of ram manager apps and bettery saver apps the run backgroung processes that drain your battery fast
HIT THANKS IF I HELPED
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With 2 year-old battery there are only 2 options:
1. Replace the battery
2. Buy a new phone
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With 2 year-old battery there are only 2 options:
1. Replace the battery
2. Buy a new phone
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^This (regards to #1), and working batteries are rather cheap, the fat one I got (3500mAh) was 9$, but you can easily get a stock replacement of the 1300-1500 range to fit with the default battery cover.
Far as tips, rooted or not:
1) Screen to automatic, or avoid 'full brightness'. Your screen consumes the most of your battery, automatic or lower brightness can improve the life significantly. This is the big one as your screen will typically be 80-90% of your battery life.
2) If you are near wifi often, System Setting -> Wifi -> Advanced (via menu) -> Sleep profile to always on. This will set it so that the wifi connectivity is always on even with the screen off. A connected good wifi connection uses far less battery than your 2G/3G data constantly searching for a good or better data connectivity. Simply turn off wifi completely when not in an area with wifi (or if you're driving around).
3) Avoid unnecessary applications. Don't use twitter? Freeze/Disable the application under manage app or under Titanium Backup (generally it's not good to 'uninstall' an application completely if it came with the rom).
4) SetCPU with profiles is one way to do it, unless your rom comes with a CPU Daemon already (ie: mimicry with virtuous OC Daemon), When setting a "screen off" profile, try not to go below 768mhz for the maximum, as going with 384mhz for example may be too slow for the phone to effectively wake up when a call or notification comes in.
5) You can use an app such as Tasker (not to be confused with task killer). Where you can assign automatic tasks, such as automatically setting Radio to 2G when connected to wifi (some roms like AOKP do this automatically under power control), or other tasks depending on the circumstances.
6) The first time you get a new battery, make sure you leave it on the charger for a good 5-6 hours so that it accurately 'tops off', the phone won't know accurately what's 100% and what's 0% until it has been fully charged (least 6 hours minimum), and fully drained, after which it'll more accurately report your battery % as it's used and will have more accurate usage stats.
7) If you're a T-Mobile subscriber, consider the 26.13.04.19 radio as well as the T-Mobile Wifi calling app, wifi uses less power in the long run than your radio via cell towers. If you'll be in a location that has wifi often you will benefit from this over not using Wifi Calling. (The main downside is you cannot currently send/receive MMS over wifi calling, but Calls and SMS[txt] work fine). Even if you don't use the wifi calling app, the 26.13.04.19 radio provides better battery life over the older one.
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strip419 said:
There is this trick that helps. On a monthly bases drain the battery and re-charge with the phone on ie also a good Rom an a good radio version like .19 will keep your battery good don't use lots of ram manager apps and bettery saver apps the run backgroung processes that drain your battery fast
HIT THANKS IF I HELPED
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Course it helps to clear battery stats before performing this task so that the OS/Battery-Stats records the new maximum and minimum values of the battery. Though you don't need to do it monthly, I would say closer to 6 months would be appropiate if you don't want to make a monthly habit of it.
You mainly only do this on account of battery aging (over time the battery will not hold as much charge as it once did), You normally know if you need to do this task again if it appears to be on 98% or 99% forever never reaching 100%, meaning that the battery is no longer able to hold the juice to provide the former-maximum mV value, re-doing the battery stats simply makes the new maximum marked as 100%.
PS: Strip419, on an off-topic note, I tend not to 'thank' people who ask/beg for it. If your post is worthy of thanks, they'll be clicked on their own accord.
OK MAN I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND
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Best rom I've ever used for battery life is EliteMod. That rom did something crazy, cause my phone lasted for days before it need charging, and I use facebook and all that good stuff. It's not as fast as other roms, but battery life is certainly the best on that rom.
Also yea, before with stock battery my phone would last a day at best, and now I have a 1800 battery that makes it last for 2 days easy. So if your phone is at least 2 years old, get a new battery. They're dirt cheap on Ebay or Amazon. The phone comes with a 1300 stock.
simply change for normal use 2G instead of 3G.
A couple of questions--I'm using EliteMod CM7
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2) If you are near wifi often, System Setting -> Wifi -> Advanced (via menu) -> Sleep profile to always on. This will set it so that the wifi connectivity is always on even with the screen off. A connected good wifi connection uses far less battery than your 2G/3G data constantly searching for a good or better data connectivity. Simply turn off wifi completely when not in an area with wifi (or if you're driving around).
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My Advanced settings don't look quite like yours, alas. (I'm using EliteMod cm7.) The section is entitled "Wi-Fi sleep policy, Specify when to switch from Wi-Fi to mobile data" and the only options are " When screen turns off," "Never when plugged in," and just plain "Never." I assume that the "Never" option, that is, never switch from Wi-Fi to mobile data, is what you mean...that is in any event the default (set by this particular ROM?)
But my problem goes beyond not quite understanding the semantics of "Never" (off?) vs. "Always on." What I continue to find odd is that my highest battery usages, at least according to Battery Monitor Widget, are never the screen at all; rather they are cell standby, Wi-Fi, phone idle and Android System...Display is down at 6% just now, for example (and I've been up for hours, have read the news on the phone, emailed, texted, etc. This is on EliteMod only, btw, I used Flinny's latest build (.94?) for a few days recently, and while battery usage was worse, at least the display was at the top of the list, where it (presumably?) belonged.
I have all the latest and greatest tweaks from the the forums (for cm7 roms, that is) the .19 radio and sd-ext and all ext4 partitions. Am running the generic 3500mah "fat boy" battery...drained and refilled several times, all according to instructions...mine only shows maybe, umm, 2300 or so mah, but that's not the issue for just now...it's why my usage looks so odd, and how to fix it, if need be.
thanks to all,
p-d
oh yeah. I have long used (pre-rooting) Lookout and Pouzerate's Green Power free apps...have now turned them off (well, uninstalled them, in fact) just to see if, indeed, battery helper apps make things worse, running in the background... any thoughts on that topic would be welcome as well.
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