I have a rooted G2/Desire Z. What are some ways that I could save battery? It seems it takes only a few hours for it to reach 50%. Granted the phone is now >2 years old and the battery is probably aging. I've done all the basics such as screen brightness set to auto, dim after 30 seconds, etc. etc. etc. What more could I do?
Alternatively, are there any apps that can control the phone/cpu to work a certain way to save battery life?
Thanks
valeous said:
I have a rooted G2/Desire Z. What are some ways that I could save battery? It seems it takes only a few hours for it to reach 50%. Granted the phone is now >2 years old and the battery is probably aging. I've done all the basics such as screen brightness set to auto, dim after 30 seconds, etc. etc. etc. What more could I do?
Alternatively, are there any apps that can control the phone/cpu to work a certain way to save battery life?
Thanks
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Setcpu,set screen off profile to lower clock..freeze some bloatware up..and also try v6 supercharger
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Easiest way:
Uninstall fabebook app, flash a sense rom where you can access most fb functions without the app.
For real, my battery life went from about 10% an hour to 4% an hour on average.
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Honestly, way number 1 is to get a new battery. Old batteries just start to drain much faster as they get older. Pick up an Evo Design 4G stock battery for a nice boost.
2. Turn brightness off auto and put it as low as you can handle. Keep a brightness slider on your notification bar for those situations you need to turn it up quickly.
3.Turn everything that "syncs" off of push and set it for 1hour+ intervals if possible.
I have had great standby time using the OC daemon that is packaged with the mimicry ROM as well.
There is this trick that helps. On a monthly bases drain the battery and re-charge with the phone on ie also a good Rom an a good radio version like .19 will keep your battery good don't use lots of ram manager apps and bettery saver apps the run backgroung processes that drain your battery fast
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With 2 year-old battery there are only 2 options:
1. Replace the battery
2. Buy a new phone
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With 2 year-old battery there are only 2 options:
1. Replace the battery
2. Buy a new phone
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^This (regards to #1), and working batteries are rather cheap, the fat one I got (3500mAh) was 9$, but you can easily get a stock replacement of the 1300-1500 range to fit with the default battery cover.
Far as tips, rooted or not:
1) Screen to automatic, or avoid 'full brightness'. Your screen consumes the most of your battery, automatic or lower brightness can improve the life significantly. This is the big one as your screen will typically be 80-90% of your battery life.
2) If you are near wifi often, System Setting -> Wifi -> Advanced (via menu) -> Sleep profile to always on. This will set it so that the wifi connectivity is always on even with the screen off. A connected good wifi connection uses far less battery than your 2G/3G data constantly searching for a good or better data connectivity. Simply turn off wifi completely when not in an area with wifi (or if you're driving around).
3) Avoid unnecessary applications. Don't use twitter? Freeze/Disable the application under manage app or under Titanium Backup (generally it's not good to 'uninstall' an application completely if it came with the rom).
4) SetCPU with profiles is one way to do it, unless your rom comes with a CPU Daemon already (ie: mimicry with virtuous OC Daemon), When setting a "screen off" profile, try not to go below 768mhz for the maximum, as going with 384mhz for example may be too slow for the phone to effectively wake up when a call or notification comes in.
5) You can use an app such as Tasker (not to be confused with task killer). Where you can assign automatic tasks, such as automatically setting Radio to 2G when connected to wifi (some roms like AOKP do this automatically under power control), or other tasks depending on the circumstances.
6) The first time you get a new battery, make sure you leave it on the charger for a good 5-6 hours so that it accurately 'tops off', the phone won't know accurately what's 100% and what's 0% until it has been fully charged (least 6 hours minimum), and fully drained, after which it'll more accurately report your battery % as it's used and will have more accurate usage stats.
7) If you're a T-Mobile subscriber, consider the 26.13.04.19 radio as well as the T-Mobile Wifi calling app, wifi uses less power in the long run than your radio via cell towers. If you'll be in a location that has wifi often you will benefit from this over not using Wifi Calling. (The main downside is you cannot currently send/receive MMS over wifi calling, but Calls and SMS[txt] work fine). Even if you don't use the wifi calling app, the 26.13.04.19 radio provides better battery life over the older one.
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strip419 said:
There is this trick that helps. On a monthly bases drain the battery and re-charge with the phone on ie also a good Rom an a good radio version like .19 will keep your battery good don't use lots of ram manager apps and bettery saver apps the run backgroung processes that drain your battery fast
HIT THANKS IF I HELPED
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Course it helps to clear battery stats before performing this task so that the OS/Battery-Stats records the new maximum and minimum values of the battery. Though you don't need to do it monthly, I would say closer to 6 months would be appropiate if you don't want to make a monthly habit of it.
You mainly only do this on account of battery aging (over time the battery will not hold as much charge as it once did), You normally know if you need to do this task again if it appears to be on 98% or 99% forever never reaching 100%, meaning that the battery is no longer able to hold the juice to provide the former-maximum mV value, re-doing the battery stats simply makes the new maximum marked as 100%.
PS: Strip419, on an off-topic note, I tend not to 'thank' people who ask/beg for it. If your post is worthy of thanks, they'll be clicked on their own accord.
OK MAN I'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND
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Best rom I've ever used for battery life is EliteMod. That rom did something crazy, cause my phone lasted for days before it need charging, and I use facebook and all that good stuff. It's not as fast as other roms, but battery life is certainly the best on that rom.
Also yea, before with stock battery my phone would last a day at best, and now I have a 1800 battery that makes it last for 2 days easy. So if your phone is at least 2 years old, get a new battery. They're dirt cheap on Ebay or Amazon. The phone comes with a 1300 stock.
simply change for normal use 2G instead of 3G.
A couple of questions--I'm using EliteMod CM7
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2) If you are near wifi often, System Setting -> Wifi -> Advanced (via menu) -> Sleep profile to always on. This will set it so that the wifi connectivity is always on even with the screen off. A connected good wifi connection uses far less battery than your 2G/3G data constantly searching for a good or better data connectivity. Simply turn off wifi completely when not in an area with wifi (or if you're driving around).
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My Advanced settings don't look quite like yours, alas. (I'm using EliteMod cm7.) The section is entitled "Wi-Fi sleep policy, Specify when to switch from Wi-Fi to mobile data" and the only options are " When screen turns off," "Never when plugged in," and just plain "Never." I assume that the "Never" option, that is, never switch from Wi-Fi to mobile data, is what you mean...that is in any event the default (set by this particular ROM?)
But my problem goes beyond not quite understanding the semantics of "Never" (off?) vs. "Always on." What I continue to find odd is that my highest battery usages, at least according to Battery Monitor Widget, are never the screen at all; rather they are cell standby, Wi-Fi, phone idle and Android System...Display is down at 6% just now, for example (and I've been up for hours, have read the news on the phone, emailed, texted, etc. This is on EliteMod only, btw, I used Flinny's latest build (.94?) for a few days recently, and while battery usage was worse, at least the display was at the top of the list, where it (presumably?) belonged.
I have all the latest and greatest tweaks from the the forums (for cm7 roms, that is) the .19 radio and sd-ext and all ext4 partitions. Am running the generic 3500mah "fat boy" battery...drained and refilled several times, all according to instructions...mine only shows maybe, umm, 2300 or so mah, but that's not the issue for just now...it's why my usage looks so odd, and how to fix it, if need be.
thanks to all,
p-d
oh yeah. I have long used (pre-rooting) Lookout and Pouzerate's Green Power free apps...have now turned them off (well, uninstalled them, in fact) just to see if, indeed, battery helper apps make things worse, running in the background... any thoughts on that topic would be welcome as well.
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my battery drains like a bugatti veyron doing 252mph constantly
so what would you advise . is the kernal i have now the best or should i change .. i dont want to reall lose much performance on what i have now but would like the battery to maybe improve if possible ...
from full charge taking plug out searching market for 2 mins the battery drains 5-8% in matter of mins
and i have only had the phone a week
With that kind of drains the problems the kernel won't change that much. There is probably a app that causes the battery drain so looking in to that will have more effect. Also the brightness/screen on is the biggest drain and kernel won't do much about that.
You said that you have the phone a week, the battery needs some time to reach it's full potential and you probably use the phone a lot because it's new. So use the phone normally for another week, after that week let the phone drain until it shuts itself off, leaf it off and charge it till it's full. (there is a different calibration method but this always worked for me)
What do you have now? Stock or rooted?
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First of all, I would assume that you don't use the phone non-stop (it would be justified to lose power in a few hours if you're on it non-stop).
I recently had issues with power consumption as well. What I did was:
1) check the built in battery monitor: menu-settings-about phone-battery-battery use. The bad thing about this monitor is that it does not differentiate well the apps consuming power, but you can still see if there's something wrong, as the most consumption should come normally from the screen and voice calls. For me, the most consumption was made by com.htc.bg, which, if I let the monitor on for a few seconds, would transform in the calendar app. Weird stuff. I unchecked the calednar auto sync from menu-settings-accounts and sync. It may have slowed the power loss down, but not significantly. I noticed a significant loss of battery by WiFi. I realized, I needed more information so:
2) I installed an app called 'Power Tutor'. What it does is, it calculates which apps consumes power, and it shows you in percentages. After install, you need to start the 'power profiler'. It will appear in your notification bar. If you let it run, after a few hours, you can see in "view application power usage" who is using power. That's how I discovered that my winamp app was really off the charts using power like crazy. So I went in the winamp settings, and I unchecked some options that could have determined this power consumption, like wireless sync, automatic mount as USB drive, etc. There was actually an option that was overriding the wifi power management, stating that the wifi does not stop after 180 seconds of standby. Basically, if you have wifi on, and you stop using the phone for 3 minutes, the phone automatically turns off the wifi. This was not happening any more, due to winamp. So I unchecked all those options, and voila. It worked, I have now normal battery life.
Good luck!
be aware of a couple of things
1. battery drain for the 1st few weeks are high because of a couple of factors, the battery "learns" and gets conditioned over a period of time (doesnt use the old 16hr charge process). its a new device for you so its a novelty, you probably mess about with it with the screen on more than you think.
2. there is a configuration within HTC's builds and in the memory chip of the battery to stop over charging. the device will charge to 100 and then slowly deplete to 90% while still saying full on the phone. as soon as you disconnect it recalibrates to the correct value which is anywhere between 90% and 100% depending at which part of the cycle you catch it
Some other tips to increase battery life, from a friend of mine in the Romanian forum:
1) use the app watchdog, it will warn you when an app is using too much of the processor and will ask you if you want to close it.
2) juice defender with the paid add-on 'ultimate juice' - with the correct settings... it's amazing.
3) Dial *#*#4636#*#* - phone information-network type: select gsm auto prl. The phone will stay on 3G when it has good signal, and switch to 2G when it doesnt, saving battery
4) Change the wallpaper to a static one, not a live one.
5) Go to menu-settings-accounts and sync and increase sync intervals for weather, news, or even set them to sync manually when you choose.
i will try and answer everything at once ..
ok my screen is on 13% brightness
i hardly ever use my phone , the only real use was to root , s-off, put ROM ETC ON
I reply to about 50 texts ish per day and search the market for literally 1-2 mins to see what new apps are in
i dont play games or anything
the thing the battery uses most is the screen and as i say i have it on monochrome theme with 13% brightness, there is nothing synced , i check automatically for email etc .. actually beautiful widgets is set to auto update every 4 hours
i never use wifi as i have a 3gb download/data usage, i dont use gps ...well i do but i have had no need to .. thats about all i can tell ya
rastaman the pt2 is a bit weird it should stay at 100 if just taken out of charge
I calibrated the battery and that made no difference.
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When I got my Dinc2 last week I automatically ticked the "Best WiFi performance" checkbox in the WiFi advanced settings, without thinking about it much. But then I realized it must be the WiFi setting that's draining my the battery so quickly overnight. As an example, during a 7-hr period last night with hardly any email polling, my battery drained from 50% to only 15% capacity (that's about 5% per hour). My wife's original Inc only dropped 2-3% during the same period, sitting right beside mine. And you could see the graph in my battery stats take a constant straight-line nosedive from the moment I turned the WiFi on. So I unchecked the "best performance" feature immediately this morning, and will see how the phone performs tonight without it.
What does this "Best performance" setting do? Is it only necessary for something with a high data need like VoIP or media streaming?
Thx,
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When I got my Dinc2 last week I automatically ticked the "Best WiFi performance" checkbox in the WiFi advanced settings, without thinking about it much. But then I realized it must be the WiFi setting that's draining my the battery so quickly overnight. As an example, during a 7-hr period last night with hardly any email polling, my battery drained from 50% to only 15% capacity (that's about 5% per hour). My wife's original Inc only dropped 2-3% during the same period, sitting right beside mine. And you could see the graph in my battery stats take a constant straight-line nosedive from the moment I turned the WiFi on. So I unchecked the "best performance" feature immediately this morning, and will see how the phone performs tonight without it.
What does this "Best performance" setting do? Is it only necessary for something with a high data need like VoIP or media streaming?
Thx,
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Never seen that? What rom you running?
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Never seen that? What rom you running?
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Its on the stock sense rom and I have seen it on Skyraider Zeus' roms.
Settings > Wireless & networks > WiFi Settings > (press menu button at bottom) > Advanced
It's buried deep in the settings.
I wonder if it decreases the wifi scan interval? That would certainly explain the battery drain.
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Its on the stock sense rom and I have seen it on Skyraider Zeus' roms.
Settings > Wireless & networks > WiFi Settings > (press menu button at bottom) > Advanced
It's buried deep in the settings.
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Right you are. And because my Dinc2 is only a week old, it's still running the stock 2.1 Sense rom on Gingerbread 2.3.4
Tonight I'll start some testing... one night with the "standard" performance WiFi, the next night without any WiFi (or 3g) on.
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Tonight I'll start some testing... one night with the "standard" performance WiFi, the next night without any WiFi (or 3g) on.
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So the results are in. Over the past 3 nights, I let my phone sit overnight in different wifi configs, to get an idea of the effects of the different WiFi configurations. In each case with the same minimal email polling and no other main apps running. It's a brand new phone, running 2.3.4 and Sense 2.1 (I haven't rooted it yet).
It turns out that Sense's "Best performance" WiFi setting eats up battery at a MUCH higher rate than anything else, approximately 10x hungrier than the regular wifi settings or no wifi or 3g at all. And the regular WiFi setting uses virtually no battery when there's nothing much downloading. Here's the raw data:
Best performance WiFi > 7 hrs produced a 35% drop in battery (5% per hour)
Regular WiFi (Best perf unchecked) > 10 hrs produced a 2% drop (0.2% per hour)
Both WiFi and 3g off > 7.5 hrs produced 2% drop (0.26% per hour)
So it's the regular WiFi config for me; YMMV.
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So the results are in. Over the past 3 nights, I let my phone sit overnight in different wifi configs, to get an idea of the effects of the different WiFi configurations. In each case with the same minimal email polling and no other main apps running. It's a brand new phone, running 2.3.4 and Sense 2.1 (I haven't rooted it yet).
It turns out that Sense's "Best performance" WiFi setting eats up battery at a MUCH higher rate than anything else, approximately 10x hungrier than the regular wifi settings or no wifi or 3g at all. And the regular WiFi setting uses virtually no battery when there's nothing much downloading. Here's the raw data:
Best performance WiFi > 7 hrs produced a 35% drop in battery (5% per hour)
Regular WiFi (Best perf unchecked) > 10 hrs produced a 2% drop (0.2% per hour)
Both WiFi and 3g off > 7.5 hrs produced 2% drop (0.26% per hour)
So it's the regular WiFi config for me; YMMV.
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Hmm... It has been a while since I ran stock, so I am not sure what 2.3.3 said, but on that ROM, I found that the settings performed similarly to the AOSP Android Wifi Sleep Policy. So Maximum Performance = never shut wifi off and the normal setting shuts off wifi when the screen is off. I never ran stock 2.3.4, so not sure about that one. On 2.3.3 I always had mine on Maximum performance because I use a lot of background data and having wifi on the whole time uses less battery than all the 3g would use overnight.
So, unless something changed, Regular shuts off wifi with the screen and max performance keeps it on all the time.
And stock I would only drop about 2-4% overnight with wifi on max and everything syncing. So unless something changed to 2.3.4, then something is either over-using your wifi because it is available or there is something else at play.
At any rate, everyone's usage is different, so use what works for you.
Actually I have the sleep policy set to never turn WiFi off and hand back to 3g... mostly because I use the "Unlock with WiFi" app and I don't want the phone relocking just 'cause the WiFi went to sleep. So Sense's "best performance" setting must do something else.
Who knows; I don't need better WiFi throughput so I'll stick with the regular WiFi settings which don't drain battery juice hardly at all when you're not actively using it.
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Actually I have the sleep policy set to never turn WiFi off and hand back to 3g... mostly because I use the "Unlock with WiFi" app and I don't want the phone revoking just 'cause the WiFi let go. So Sense's "best performance" setting must do something else. Who knows; I don't need better WiFi throughput so I'll stick with the regular WiFi settings which don't drain battery juice.
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Hmm... Must be a 2.3.4 thing. I don't remember it from 2.3.3. Maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't remember seeing it because I would have enabled it. I need some wifi boost at times. I am wondering if it is setting the wifi to keep it at max tx/rx power... Maybe if I can get some time I will try to see what I can find in the code.
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Well I checked the xml real quick as I am not at a workstation with all my software on it and 2.3.3 had it too. I always set the sleep policy right away, so it is possible I just set it and forgot about it.
I will see what I can drum up about what it does, as I am curious. If it is some sort of power boost, maybe it can be adapted to AOSP.
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I will see what I can drum up about what it does, as I am curious. If it is some sort of power boost, maybe it can be adapted to AOSP.
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Thanks for sleuthing...
So -
I just discovered this setting. I was downloading some google music after returning to Andy Bones Stock Rom - and figured I would give it a go.
When I get home, I am gonna use the speedtest app to see if I can actually move data faster or not. It seems like that would not be true, but who knows.
The setting DEFINITELY crushes the battery. It seems to be really fast DL (especially for pulling a large number of music files) but... I have no empirical verification for that claim.
Testing to come.
I found I average 1-2 mbps faster without it.
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Hi to all
After many fights with my loved Desire i'd found an excellent solution for the high battery drain.
I have the OxygeN ROM 2.3.2 (very very very nice and stable ROM) but the average life of a charge was 1 day.
Searching on the market i'd found the app "Green Power" (free version). This app allows to manage the WiFi and/or 3G connections when the smartphone is in stand-by (SLCD turned off). Setting the parameters it is possible to swith-off (i.e. every 30 minutes) the WiFi and/or the 3G. This make a big decrease of energy consuption. So my average life of the battery between two charges is 2-2.5 days .
Very very very excellet solution
Hope to help anyone
BR
If you just want to do wifi its already build into the roms. You just need to go too wifi settings and hit the menu button and select advanced settings then play with "Wifi Sleep Policy" I have mine set to "Never when plugged in"
I read before that the WiFi radio actually uses less power than the mobile data connection, so leaving WiFi on and Data Off would drain less battery. Although obviously both off will increase it, which is how JuiceDefender works as well. But i find if you can live with all data off for periods of time you probably don;t need a smartphone in the first place, the whole point of them it to be always online for push notifications and the like.
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I read before that the WiFi radio actually uses less power than the mobile data connection, so leaving WiFi on and Data Off would drain less battery. Although obviously both off will increase it, which is how JuiceDefender works as well. But i find if you can live with all data off for periods of time you probably don;t need a smartphone in the first place, the whole point of them it to be always online for push notifications and the like.
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not 100% true
with my actual configuration (30 minutes OFF and 2 minutes ON) i receive all emails and notification of the day. obviously not instantly
I am running AOKP M3 with franco kernel #15.2, turtle governor, 350/1000 w/ stock franco voltages. I also modded the auto brightness levels to ones of the MID mod. I use WiFi at home; I have set the power saver to switch to 2G after 1m of screen off time. However, I an unable to get more than 2-2.5h of screen on time no matter what I try. I plan to purchase the extended battery, but in the meanwhile what can I do to improve the battery life? I have the GSM phone.
Thanks in advance!
I've tried all sorts of stuff and 2 and a half hours is the most i've been able to get.
In order to do that I was using mostly wifi, auto brightness and I had undervolted as much as possible.
I've tried all different kernels and i've just accepted the fact that with this phone and the way I use it that's as good as it's going to get. To be honest i'm satisfied with that because in order for me to get 2+ hours of screen on time it has to be my day off, otherwise i'm too busy.
Also, i'm pulling 14-16 hours per charge with 2-2.5 hours of screen on time which in my opinion is great. I just want it to last all day and for me it does.
Try LeanKernel.
I get at least 4 hours battery life with:
Version: GSM GNex
ROM: AOKP Milestone 3 (power saver mode off)
Kernel: Lean Kernel
Battery: 2000 mAh
Frequency: 350/1200 Conservative
UV: Stock
3G/HSPA/LTE: 3G/HSPA and my network doesn't support 2G
What's off: BT, WiFi unless I'm home, Sync for Calender Contacts Browser and Photos.
Brightness: About 40-50%
Daily, I use: Netflix/Poweramp/Spotify/Reddit on my daily commute. Phone/Poweramp/Spotify/Reddit/Browser+ in between commute.
Even without the extended battery like you I would at least get 3.5 hours.
#1- people getting over 3 hours of screen time are on wifi the whole time, have 4g off, are minimalists with no syncing and no voice calls, or a combination of any of these.
#2 - based on your graph you have a lot of wake locks. Look at how often your phone is awake when your screen is off. That is KILLING your battery life. Disable or uninstall rogue apps, and turn off GPS and location services seems to help with this. Also reduce your amount of sync intervals if you can.
I have stock 4.0.2 unrooted GSM with extended battery.
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#2 - based on your graph you have a lot of wake locks. Look at how often your phone is awake when your screen is off. That is KILLING your battery life. Disable or uninstall rogue apps, and turn off GPS and location services seems to help with this. Also reduce your amount of sync intervals if you can.
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Look at the betterbatterystats for wakelocks; looks like lookout kept half an hour, the rest are mostly sync.
Try to remove all widgets for a while. This can rule things out.
I'm running the exact same thing M3 with Franco 15.2 except I have the extended battery. This is with almost 0 idle time. Literally playing games, rrading forums, texting, etc.
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Sorry posted wrong one. Here is my screen time.
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Aww c'mon *cry*
I only have the calendar, clock and palmary weather widges (6 hour auto update). As far as I can tell Lookout and Sync are the *****es - literally. But that doesn't solve the idle drain, with the phone sleeping, it seems like 2-3% every hour or something like that.
That doesn't sound right. I have everything running as well. I don't use lookout any longer though. I'm sure if I just did the idle test I can get over a day of on battery time and still reach nearly 5 hours of on screen time. That's mostly Wifi which is suppose to drain more battery life, but I haven't seen the difference from being on 3G. This is a good set up.
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I don't know if this is important but its a good note, I have not touched the performance settings or done any UV, not experienced enough, but I still produced those results.
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I think you should try removing lookout. Take for example my awake times when screen is off. I sync Gmail, photos,remember the milk, and beautiful widgets.
Also major battery awake drain in beginning of my graph is due to streaming Google music when screen was off so perfectly normal.
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Alright, I will remove Lookout. What alternative do you recommend, in case someone pick pockets my phone? Preferably free or cheap w/ Internet access. I'm thinking of Cerberus, as it'll be impossible for any wanna be thief to remove; I suppose the 3 EUR license is for device, right? Does it persist through ROM flashes (i.e. based on IMEI).
As for WiFi drain, on 3G it would be worse - it's longer range thus it needs more power and if the signal is bad (lucky I get top notch at home, not so at school), it's even worse.
When I get some more cash I'll order the extended battery and a dock off eBay, then I'll have a large main battery and the original one as a reserve.
EDIT: I've added the stats for this day. Better overall, the phone was used more intensively so getting a bit higher screen on time is good. I disabled Google Talk, I see it keeping the phone awake for a significant time, but I never use it. I also get rid of Palmary Weather and switched to the built in app, I'll see tomorrow how it goes.
The screenshots on the original post show sharp increase in battery drain when there is a) screen on and b) no mobile network signal.
In my opinion, these are two if the biggest culprits. The screen is obviously a power hog, especially with max brightness, and the lack of a network signal forces the phone to increase power to the radio in order to find a stable connection.
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In my opinion, these are two if the biggest culprits. The screen is obviously a power hog, especially with max brightness, and the lack of a network signal forces the phone to increase power to the radio in order to find a stable connection.
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Well with the screen there's nothing you can do; A big screen will use a lot of power, a dense screen with use a lot of power, both is even worse. If this were an LCD instead of OLED the battery life with Holo would be horrible. Turning the brightness even lower than my tuned auto levels is not an option - the phone would be impossible to use due to the glossy nature of glass. As for the network, I can't do anything about that - the school building is built from reinforced concrete, that sucks up the signal pretty well and it's downtown, where the signal is already quite shoddy; at home I have a celullar tower 1km away so I get excellent reception, not so downtown.
But I'm not complaining about those. I mean the background activity, mostly the idle wake time. I'll see what I get tomorrow now that I killed Lookout and Talk, those seemed to be two major hogs.
Seems like you have a lot of awake time. Try disabling Maps, Google+ and remove all widgets and test it for a day. If it is better now, you have ruled out signal problems.
Is there any way to reduce the interval of Google sync events? (gtalk_async_conn) When I was at home on WiFi I got a sync maybe once every few hours (seen as wake). As soon as I left and turned WiFi off the sync was like every 10 minutes, which is weird, as in the AOKP ROM Control power save settings I set it to PREFER WiFi.
Why do I get a LOT more sync wakelocks on mobile data than on WiFi when the ROM is set to prefer WiFi syncs?
best pattery save I have found is turning off various radios
I use an app Profile that can turn on/off bluetooth and wifi based upon the time of day. So it turns on wifi at 7 PM M-F and turns it off at 6 AM when I leave for work. I get great battery life, and I think it is due to the radios I turn on and off.
LeanKernel stable... all the way!!... ive tried his OC 1.42/230 but you start feeling the drainage...
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Believe it or not, activating wi-fi when I'm at home has actually increased my battery life substantially. No need to even turn it off; at the end of the day, it takes about 2% of your total battery life.
Care to post the "Power saving" app you are using, TC? The one that can activate 3G after the screen turns off? For so long I've been looking for such a powersaving app.
I open this thread to help the users having bad battery life and find out the possible resolutions. Whenever you see the bad battery life, in most of the cases it would be caused by some specific apps or the way you are using the phone and it's not from the ROM itself.
As you may know, I'm working on Kobridge Tweaks and trying to improve the performance and battery life but there're lots of variances that we still don't know and have to know.
So, let's work together to find out the better solutions!
In here, please share your screenshots and your settings. But, don't post with just simple words - it's good or it's bad. We need the following information when you post;
1. Your ROM related info - Rom name, version
2. Kernel/modem version
3. Any additional apps installed
4. Any tweaks that you did by yourself
5. When you post, please add the screenshots -
(how to capture screenshots -> ICS: vol down + power button at the same time or if this function does not work then try screenshot it (trial) or pro (paid)
Full screenshots showing (from better battery stats, download it from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 )
a. Since unplugged - other, partial wakelocks, kernel wakelock, alarms, process
b. since charged - same as 'since unplugged'
(Be sure that when you take the screenshots, reset the counters between since unplugged & charged)
System tuner pro or cpu spy -
c. CPU utilization diagram.
d. CPU times (system tuner pro)
Download - System Tuner, System Tuner Pro (Paid), CPU Spy
Other Tools Download -
Battery Monitor Widget, Battery Monitor Widget Pro(paid), Badass Battery Monitor, Badass Battery Monitor Pro (Paid)
Just normal screenshots from
e. settings > battery (1)
f. click on the graph (2)
g. click on the screen (3)
h. all Kobridge tweak log files - /data/log/kobridge_tweakxx.log if you are using Kobridge tweaks.
Kobridge - General Settings to extend the battery life
General Settings or Configuration to extend battery life
This is an initial edition. I'm going to update and add more information here.
Original post - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625299
I've worked on this part so long time since I've started using ICS ROM. I also tried almost every battery saver apps but didn't get any better result using my own method because sometimes there are lots of overheads using it (I'm trying to avoid describing any individual app's pros and cons in here and just provide you the better way to configure your phone).
The information in here is based on FF18 rooted stock rom/modem/kernel. But it's not limited to any specific phone or build. You could probably use it in any phones or builds.
1. Wifi
Some of you understand that wifi is faster than 3G and use less battery than 3G. You also say that 4G is the biggest monster consuming lots of battery. But that would be true and false.
Sometimes, wifi uses lots of battery to get the faster speed and keep the connection.
There could be multiple scenarios in here and below is based on my test -
Original post can be found in here
WIFI - I always turned on at home (because wifi is available) with 'never' option. In this case, 3G will cover the data communication if 3g turned on during the deep sleep. If wifi signal is so strong, even you don't need to turn on 3G and use the wifi during the sleep mode by changing the wifi option.
If you don't need the data communication during sleep mode, then turn off 3G and make wifi sleep (never) during the sleep mode. With this option, your battery could last about 2 hours per 1% drop.
3G - you need to compare between 3G and wifi. Which one is better and use less battery based on the signal strength.
For me, I'm using both 3G and wifi turned on. Using these two options turned on, I make the data communication available always and these two are compromising each other.
OK, here are some screenshots from 3.4M (check the original post link above). From 100% to 65%, I turned on 3G, so it covers the wifi when wifi sleeps during the deep sleep. From 65% to 45%, I turned off 3G, so during the deep sleep, both wifi and 3G were not available. When screen turned on wifi only came back (if you are not a heavy user, this method will save lots of battery).
Based on what I said, I've tested couple of things-
1. Battery life when wifi turned on 24x7
2. Battery life when 3G turned on 24x7
1. When wifi turned on 24x7 (turned on even screen is off), my phone shows that there were about 2.5% drop in every hour (100% > 73% about in 9.5 hours)
2. Wehn 3G turned on 24x7 (no wifi, no 4G), the battery consumption was much slower than wifi. (73% > 62% about in 14 hours). A little more than 1 hour per 1% drop.
Based on my test with minimum wifi, 3G usage, it shows that 3G saves a lot more battery during the standby mode. This result could be different based on your area and signal strength.
Now I showed many things related to wifi, 3G and how it affects the battery life.
Only one thing that I did not test is 4G. It's really hard to make a test using 4G inside of my office because I don't have 4G signal at all. What I can try is, 4G random reboot issue. I'll try to turn on 4G and see if it happens....
2. 3G
Keeping 3G turned on is a good habit. Because it covers wifi and 4G whenever those are not available. 3G uses battery a lot less than wifi and 4G (it could be different based on your signal strength)
Howto keep it on: setting -> more -> mobile networks -> check 3G DATA
Like I said before, if you have a reasonably good 3G signal, then you may want to turn off wifi and 4G to save the battery.
3. 4G
Just like wifi, minimize turning on 4G network. This use a lot of battery if you are in the bad reception area. If the signal strength is really good, then it would be probably ok keeping 4G turned on. In some cases, 4G would be the only solution to watch the movies, streaming videos when the wifi is not available.
Based on my limited test, using 4G in good reception area is much better than using wifi with low/weak signal.
4. Call option
Mark checkbox for Turn on proximity sensor for your convenience even there would be a little battery drain. But if you are a heavy talker, then I recommend to uncheck this option and use the power button to go back to control mode.
5. Sound
Lower the sound/vibration level within the acceptable range for you. There would be some differences on battery behavior by turning off or on of sound/vibration. But I don't want to recommend anything in here because I don't want you to lose any incoming calls/messages/etc.
6. Display
Automatic brightness should be fine in most cases. It's really related to screen on time battery consumption. I don't want to deal with this option at this time.
Pulse notification light, display battery percentage - turn it on or off based on your preference. Battery consumption by turning on these options would be minimal. I saw that some people said that they recommend to turning off the 'pulse notification light'. But I don't agree with that. One blinking LED light almost does not use any battery!
display timeout - I set it with highest value provided. After using the phone, I manually press the power button to go to sleep mode. With short timeout value, I have to keep press the button or screen to keep the screen on. I don't like this method.
Turn on 'Auto adjust screen power'.
7. Power saving mode
I always keep this option off because I do not want to lose anything because of low battery. I would rather change the numbers in my tweak (battery profile 2 in scaling tweak).
8. Account and sync
Most of time, I keep this option turned off. This would be one of the battery eating monster. I would rather individually sync the apps whenever I need it or from the actual apps.
9. Battery
when you charge the battery and phone shows that 100% charged, unplug the cable few seconds and plug-in again to charger. Repeat this couple of times and your battery would be really fully charged. Many times, even phone shows 100% charged, it could be the minimum 100% range. Actually, there's some voltage allowed and considered as 100% charge. But by maximizing the voltage during the charge, your battery life could be extended.
10. Motion
Turn off this option if you don't need this.
11. email
If possible, turn off the option that pushing email immediately. Instead, put the retrieval interval as long as you can. Based on my test, it could extend your battery life as maximum as couple of hours. In my case, I put the 2 hours interval. By doing this, your phone is much easier to enter the 'deep sleep' mode.
12. Startups
For me, I don't allow the apps automatically start during the boot as much as possible. If it's the system app and critical app for the phone's normal operation, then you have to allow those startups but otherwise, you can disable the startup apps based on your test.
For this, I usually use Rom Toolbox and/or System Tuner Pro. These apps allow us to enable or disable the startup apps.
For any apps like I don't use frequently or at all, I disable the apps from the 'event' (rom toolbox) or startups (system tuner pro). Once you disable the startups, you may need some test to see what happens when you manually launch the apps. If your app does not start normally, then go back and enable the event again.
There's also one more battery eating moster - widgets (currently doing some experimental test on it)
Regardless of widgets are in foreground screen or just stays in widgets folder, almost same amount of battery could be used by widgets to make it upto dated and refresh the connections, etc.
So, if you don't need the widget or don't use, go to (from Rom Toolbox) Auto Start Manager -> Applications -> select app you want to check -> it will show that widget updating is enabled or not. If it's enabled and you don't want it, just disable it. Then the app is not going to use that specific widget and actually widget will disappear from widgets folder.
Kobridge - Recommended APK settings to save the battery
I'm going to add the recommended APK settings in here to save the battery.
How to adjust Kobridge tweaks - guide to modify the Kobridge Tweak settings!
Known Battery Monsters
Best screenshots - worst ever or best ever!
It's a good thing that no one is posting here
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Maybe should change name to good battery life? I've used your tweaks sense I 1st flashed a ROM even though I'm still noobish I never had a problem...
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before i saw who posted this, i thought someone was calling u out kobridge =P
fryingpan0613 said:
It's a good thing that no one is posting here
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epic4gfaded said:
Maybe should change name to good battery life? I've used your tweaks sense I 1st flashed a ROM even though I'm still noobish I never had a problem...
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It doesn't matter that even you have a good battery life, then please show us how you are getting the 'Good one' with your screenshots and settings if you think it would help others.
Thank you guys!
I saw that some people said that they recommend to turning off the 'pulse notification light'. But I don't agree with that. One blinking LED light almost does not use any battery!
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It's not that the blink uses battery, it's that the blink causes your phone to wake up from its Deep Sleep and use the 200 MHz state of your processor. This wakelock takes away battery.
Thanks for the guide though. Looking forward to getting better battery life. I'm currently on CM9 though so I can't use your tweaks Just waiting for an AOKP build that switches /emmc and /sdcard back around to the way it should be
Edit: Just got System Tuner Pro... seems very complicated but I followed your startup advice
Per OP's request. Thread closed for now.