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Telus Samsung Galaxy S II X [SGH-T989D] questions

Looking at this phone and have some questions:
-if the T989 receives CyanogenMod support will it work with this variant?
-any indication that Android 4.0 ICS will be ported in a timely manner?

StepanLevin said:
Looking at this phone and have some questions:
-if the T989 receives CyanogenMod support will it work with this variant?
-any indication that Android 4.0 ICS will be ported in a timely manner?
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I've got the Telus SGH-T989D, it's identical to the t-mobile version. Any rom I've tried that was made for the t-mob works fine on the telus.
CM is in the works, in fact early alpha ports have started popping up, ICS can't be far behind.
Tons of love out there for this phone, you seriously can't go wrong w/ this.
m.

I'm new to all this rooting and I'm a bit cautious...
I've seen some posts say that when they rooted with the T-Mobile instructions, it made the 4G icon disappear... Was that the case for you?
What instructions did you use?

DeNitE said:
I'm new to all this rooting and I'm a bit cautious...
I've seen some posts say that when they rooted with the T-Mobile instructions, it made the 4G icon disappear... Was that the case for you?
What instructions did you use?
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4G icon only disappears if you flash a T-Mobile custom ROM. BUT, if you use Juggernaut, you can change that in the ROM Control. Rooting will not affect your Telus ROM in any way.

DeNitE said:
I'm new to all this rooting and I'm a bit cautious...
I've seen some posts say that when they rooted with the T-Mobile instructions, it made the 4G icon disappear... Was that the case for you?
What instructions did you use?
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I've still got the 4G icon, running Juggernaut 3.5.
I rooted my phone using [REF] ROOT via ZergRush Exploit Superoneclick v2.2 (confirmed working)
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emmdub said:
I've got the Telus SGH-T989D, it's identical to the t-mobile version. Any rom I've tried that was made for the t-mob works fine on the telus.
CM is in the works, in fact early alpha ports have started popping up, ICS can't be far behind.
Tons of love out there for this phone, you seriously can't go wrong w/ this.
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Thanks for the quick and informative reply. I've loved what I've read/watched from the Samsung Galaxy S II X but heard significant criticism about Samsung's OS updates and support. Took me a bit to find the thread showing early alpha of CM for T-mobile and just wanted to double check there'd be no hiccups with Telus' version. I'm quite excited to get this phone and see what it is capable of!

StepanLevin said:
Thanks for the quick and informative reply. I've loved what I've read/watched from the Samsung Galaxy S II X but heard significant criticism about Samsung's OS updates and support. Took me a bit to find the thread showing early alpha of CM for T-mobile and just wanted to double check there'd be no hiccups with Telus' version. I'm quite excited to get this phone and see what it is capable of!
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The manufacturer is always going to be slow bringing out updates... I know on my old Milestone, it was close to a year after Froyo came out that it finally got that update. This right here is one of the best reasons to use a custom rom... that, and you get rid of most of the garbage that the manufacturer and the carrier pre-installs.
Personally, I'm gonna stay with Juggernaut til CM gets a stable release.
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DeNitE said:
I'm new to all this rooting and I'm a bit cautious...
I've seen some posts say that when they rooted with the T-Mobile instructions, it made the 4G icon disappear... Was that the case for you?
What instructions did you use?
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This phone is the first Android phone I've used. Rooting and the like may seem daunting at first but the steps are pretty simple and well documented. Make sure you read the entire thread (yes, I read 150+ pages in the Juggernaut ROM thread before I even did anything), this will save you much grief.
I haven't had any problems in terms of bricking my phone or experiencing boot loops.
Also, there is no issue with using T-Mobile ROMs on our Telus phone. There may be some bloat that you don't want but it can be easily removed.
I would highly suggest rooting and installing a custom ROM. You'd be surprised to see how limited the stock ROM is compared to some of these customs.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

Anyone else sticking with Stock?

Coming from the Vibrant and G2X, I use to flash roms about once or twice, maybe more, a day! With this phone, I just think it's perfect the way it is. I want to run the OS the way Google intended without much intervention. I tried the HD rom last night and it looked and felt the same as the stock rom, so I quickly switched back. No offense to Mike, but if I'm gonna have something so similar to stock, might as well have stock with official support.
Anyone doing the same?
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i refuse to stick with stock anything regardless of how 'good' it may be. even with this Nexus, i didn't like stock.
i want to be able to change things however i want them, including overclock/undervolt/etc...
the last time i stuck with 'stock' was probably when i had the original RAZR back in the day(that and the Rezound as i believe they're still waiting on root for that thing)

you'd be surprised what kind of battery life you get with a custom rom and kernel. it's a significant upgrade. that fact alone justifies going custom
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I'm going to wait until the custom roms and kernels establish themselves before I go with a non-stock build. I will leave stock sooner or later though for sure.
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I'm also going to be ruining rooted in stock room.
It is been a very long time since I don't see a clean stable room. Number one priority today is to support as many devices as possible, quality and stability comes last. Sad.

kangxi said:
Coming from the Vibrant and G2X, I use to flash roms about once or twice, maybe more, a day! With this phone, I just think it's perfect the way it is. I want to run the OS the way Google intended without much intervention. I tried the HD rom last night and it looked and felt the same as the stock rom, so I quickly switched back. No offense to Mike, but if I'm gonna have something so similar to stock, might as well have stock with official support.
Anyone doing the same?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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How could u go from flashing multi roms a day then out of all the phones u choose not do it with the nexus that's just unheard of

I used to flash a lot of roms on my old phone, trying to stick to stock on this one. I keep getting tempted though.. especially as I haven't had the 4.0.2 update yet. It's only a minor update but just the fact that I don't have it yet keeps bugging me and making me want to root

PaulG1488 said:
How could u go from flashing multi roms a day then out of all the phones u choose not do it with the nexus that's just unheard of
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Nope, not unheard of at all. I have the same position.

This is the first phone I like 100% stock. I will probably get a custom kernel / cm9 when it comes out.

Im sticking to stock rom till my store warrenty is up. Just wanna make sure that the phone works the way its meant to before I start messing with it.

I came from the galaxy s captivate. I used to flash a lot but with the galaxy nexus, I didn't even unlock the boot loaders. I will just stay stock forever!
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Waiting for things to get a bit better understood/stable before doing ROMs, but definitely will at some point for better battery life, tether etc...

I guess I'm waiting for Google to put out a very stable build that developers can go from. Google is very quick with updates so this should happen soon.
My previous flashing was done to make up for staggering shortcomings with the device and manufacturers that dragged their feet with updates. I don't think this will be, and hasn't been, the case with the Nexus.
4.0.3 is a good start for a base with roms but there are still some issues that I want officially resolved by Google before I start flashing a bunch of stuff from independent developers.
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Mine's still stock, I'm just enjoying ICS as it is for the moment.
When I do decide to root and flash ROMs/kernal, I'm just glad that the partitions aren't like the partitions on the GSII, the recovery and kernal on the same partition had me spinning for a while on my Sprint GSII.

case0 said:
I used to flash a lot of roms on my old phone, trying to stick to stock on this one. I keep getting tempted though.. especially as I haven't had the 4.0.2 update yet. It's only a minor update but just the fact that I don't have it yet keeps bugging me and making me want to root
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I believe if you go Settings->About Phone->System Update, you can hit the button that says check for update and it will ping the server and ask if an update is available. You can do that if you want 4.0.2 which honestly why wouldn't you, it's just a bug fixer.

Like many others, I've rooted every other Android phone I've owned, usually within the day of purchasing it. However, in this case I don't feel a need. Maybe once a fully stable CM9 build is available I'll bother, but for now it's not worth my time and effort.

I will at least root and use wireless tether for now.

I am keeping mine stock for a few more weeks until the rooms start getting stable. I find that known issues get fixed in rooms much quicker than waiting for Samsung to address them.
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stock for now. the only reason for me to root is for wireless tether, but i dont need that right now.

I can't live without the ad blocking host file
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Two problems with ICS.

Well, maybe two and a half.
I was using FB17 on my old black ET (bought on launch week), before it was bricked.
GPS would not connect. Vlingo was very broken - would not work with a bt car kit unless you manually unlocked the screen.
It was very snappy in my testing though.
I now have a brand new white ET, and I tried FC14.
Exact same problems. None of those were fixed in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
Thank god someone has figured out that you can simply remove vlingo garbage and replace it with a number of dialing apps like google voicedialer. I don't know if it can be done on ICS, but it works very well in EL29 gb roms.
So, GPS is a deal breaker right now, possibly on two somewhat different versions of hardware (old black et vs white new et.) What the hell are the developers thinking not fixing gps?
Also, FC14 was noticeably choppier than both EL29 and FB17. Maybe it was because of the particular widgets/software I used, I don't know. Could be a problem too.
Anyway, any thoughts?

nabbed said:
Well, maybe two and a half.
I was using FB17 on my old black ET (bought on launch week), before it was bricked.
GPS would not connect. Vlingo was very broken - would not work with a bt car kit unless you manually unlocked the screen.
It was very snappy in my testing though.
I now have a brand new white ET, and I tried FC14.
Exact same problems. None of those were fixed in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
Thank god someone has figured out that you can simply remove vlingo garbage and replace it with a number of dialing apps like google voicedialer. I don't know if it can be done on ICS, but it works very well in EL29 gb roms.
So, GPS is a deal breaker right now, possibly on two somewhat different versions of hardware (old black et vs white new et.) What the hell are the developers thinking not fixing gps?
Also, FC14 was noticeably choppier than both EL29 and FB17. Maybe it was because of the particular widgets/software I used, I don't know. Could be a problem too.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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When I started flashin ICS Roms...Couldn't get a lock or very spotty coverage...I tried all the Apps out there for GPS...None worked...What worked best has been used by many people on here...for me it worked the first time and I always get a lock...Here's the deal...
If you are willing to take the time to do it, this seems to work for everyone:
Odin one click back to Gingerbread
Odin flash kernel w/ recovery
Restore nandroid (optional)
Get GPS lock on Gingerbread and keep it on.
Boot to recovery and flash format all zip and ROM.
So Odin one click back to el29 GB...
get CWM there as well...Get your lock...leave it on...Go to CWM...restore your ICS Rom of choice...Reboot...ICS will open up and you will have GPS lock...works everytime...At least it has for me and a lot of people on here...
GPS was the Deal breaker for me as well...I use it a lot...Now I have an ICS Rom for my Daily Driver...

Well GPS hasn't been a strong point for Samsung in general. The devs your referring is Samsung, right? They have the necessary tools, like source code and non-gpl drivers. I'm pretty sure Samsung will get GPS better on ics at some point.
El29 is very refined. I would totally expect it to run smoother than any ics leak at this point.
I don't use any car/voice mode, so I cant comment on that.
Sent from my SPH-D710

ronny71 said:
When I started flashin ICS Roms...Couldn't get a lock or very spotty coverage...I tried all the Apps out there for GPS...None worked...What worked best has been used by many people on here...for me it worked the first time and I always get a lock...Here's the deal...
If you are willing to take the time to do it, this seems to work for everyone:
Odin one click back to Gingerbread
Odin flash kernel w/ recovery
Restore nandroid (optional)
Get GPS lock on Gingerbread and keep it on.
Boot to recovery and flash format all zip and ROM.
So Odin one click back to el29 GB...
get CWM there as well...Get your lock...leave it on...Go to CWM...restore your ICS Rom of choice...Reboot...ICS will open up and you will have GPS lock...works everytime...At least it has for me and a lot of people on here...
GPS was the Deal breaker for me as well...I use it a lot...Now I have an ICS Rom for my Daily Driver...
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It works for a while. Then you lose gps again. It's too much trouble flashing and reflashing, whereas it should just work.
EL29 calks roms is very nice and smooth. Everything works, with a proper theme it looks a lot like ICS. It's just not worth it putting up with ICS bugs right now.
The only thing I'm really missing from ICS was the browser.

In the two days I've been running FC15 I've experienced none of what you mention. I think it's the luck of the draw with hardware/software and sprint service in your area. Are you updating your profile and PRL after flashing new modems?
FC15 is the smoothest build I've experienced since EL29 (which remains my goto version if the current ICS build doesn't do the job).
Did you do a complete wipe before installing? Did you make sure to flash the full rather than the nodata version if going from GB to ICS?
I'm certainly not insinuating you are incapable of knowing how to flash new builds but sometimes we overlook the simplest steps which leads to major complications.
If you've done all the above (including using Calkulin's format all) and still experience these issues then I'd definitely stick with EL29 for awhile longer.

My gps locks faster than ever. It's insane. I used gps all over CT, RI, and MA this weekend and was perfect. Didn't even get confused by 95 exchange in Providence.

Esoteric68 said:
In the two days I've been running FC15 I've experienced none of what you mention. I think it's the luck of the draw with hardware/software and sprint service in your area. Are you updating your profile and PRL after flashing new modems?
FC15 is the smoothest build I've experienced since EL29 (which remains my goto version if the current ICS build doesn't do the job).
Did you do a complete wipe before installing? Did you make sure to flash the full rather than the nodata version if going from GB to ICS?
I'm certainly not insinuating you are incapable of knowing how to flash new builds but sometimes we overlook the simplest steps which leads to major complications.
If you've done all the above (including using Calkulin's format all) and still experience these issues then I'd definitely stick with EL29 for awhile longer.
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Yeah, I've done all those things and even more you never heard about.

nabbed said:
Well, maybe two and a half.
I was using FB17 on my old black ET (bought on launch week), before it was bricked.
GPS would not connect. Vlingo was very broken - would not work with a bt car kit unless you manually unlocked the screen.
It was very snappy in my testing though.
I now have a brand new white ET, and I tried FC14.
Exact same problems. None of those were fixed in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
Thank god someone has figured out that you can simply remove vlingo garbage and replace it with a number of dialing apps like google voicedialer. I don't know if it can be done on ICS, but it works very well in EL29 gb roms.
So, GPS is a deal breaker right now, possibly on two somewhat different versions of hardware (old black et vs white new et.) What the hell are the developers thinking not fixing gps?
Also, FC14 was noticeably choppier than both EL29 and FB17. Maybe it was because of the particular widgets/software I used, I don't know. Could be a problem too.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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Of course el29 will be smoother it's an official release. It isn't the developers fault GPS is goofy on ics either they been working hard to fix it... maybe you should read the bug list before you flash anything. Nothing will be completely stable until an official release is out thank the devs they got us this far and at least we can use most ics roms as a daily driver... a couple months ago no one can even get ics to function now look were we Are.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

musikalharmony said:
Of course el29 will be smoother it's an official release. It isn't the developers fault GPS is goofy on ics either they been working hard to fix it... maybe you should read the bug list before you flash anything. Nothing will be completely stable until an official release is out thank the devs they got us this far and at least we can use most ics roms as a daily driver... a couple months ago no one can even get ics to function now look were we Are.
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I was talking about Samsung developers, not xda developers. Maybe I should have clarified. But I thought it was self-evident, since there's no source code for ICS available yet (and probably won't be for months.)
As for bug lists - ICS roms threads simply don't have them. So please don't patronize and act all butthurt for no reason.

nabbed said:
Yeah, I've done all those things and even more you never heard about.
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Well if you've tried all those and many you 'assume' I've never heard of then I think you've answered your own question.
Stick with EL29 until the official ICS is available. With any luck we aren't far off.

Esoteric68 said:
Well if you've tried all those and many you 'assume' I've never heard of then I think you've answered your own question.
Stick with EL29 until the official ICS is available. With any luck we aren't far off.
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It's hard.
The flashaholic in me wants to try fc15. I know gps wont work in it, from the review qbking77 posted. But maybe it will be as snappy as FB17 was...
BTW, when is the official Sprint ics release due?

nabbed said:
It's hard.
The flashaholic in me wants to try fc15. I know gps wont work in it, from the review qbking77 posted. But maybe it will be as snappy as FB17 was...
BTW, when is the official Sprint ics release due?
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FC15 gps does work. I'm getting a lock right now on 8 satellites.

The Root said:
FC15 gps does work. I'm getting a lock right now on 8 satellites.
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It doesn't work for qbking77, so I assumed it won't work for me.

nabbed said:
It's hard.
The flashaholic in me wants to try fc15. I know gps wont work in it, from the review qbking77 posted. But maybe it will be as snappy as FB17 was...
BTW, when is the official Sprint ics release due?
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It is hard to not flash and I'm only a recent flashaholic (boy do I wish I'd paid more attention to XDA when I had my EVO 4G, would've saved me the mistake of buying the POS 3D).
After FC07 I was going to stick with EL29 until the official release came out but then the 13, 14 and 15 leaked builds came out with overall good reviews so I dove in again and so far I haven't regretted it.
Official release date, who knows, this is Sprint after all but with the leaks coming fast and furious common sense would dictate it can't be too far off (at least we hope).

nabbed said:
It doesn't work for qbking77, so I assumed it won't work for me.
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Believe me mine works...EveryTime...Im runnin on FC14 at the moment ...didn't think there is a need to update to 15 since 14 is runnin fine...Everything runs on My Rom...But like I told ya if GPS didn't work Id be back on GB...Right now Im runnin an EL29 Modem on MIJJz BLEND ICS "THE GOODNESS" 2.3...IMO its the hottest ICS Rom out there hands down...Its smooth quick snappy...uou name it...With functioning GPS for me...But if you think you'll be happy with GB go back...Im stickin with the ICS leaks till the final and I think they are Damn close...

nabbed said:
I was talking about Samsung developers, not xda developers. Maybe I should have clarified. But I thought it was self-evident, since there's no source code for ICS available yet (and probably won't be for months.)
As for bug lists - ICS roms threads simply don't have them. So please don't patronize and act all butthurt for no reason.
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You are aware of the difference between "unknown dev-state leaks" versus "official releases", right? Also that devs post leaks for us to test and report back bugs, of which there are multiple threads containing these lists, right? The issues you report have been answered in several threads, several times.

My gps has worked in every FC ICS build so far. (Lucky me I guess)
Few things that don't work, error out.
Accuweather daemon sometimes FC's.
Moving apps to SD card a bit wonkey. Currently doesn't move them to the ACTUAL SD but to "usb storage" on the phone. FC15 only.
A handful of apps still aren't compatible with ICS. (NOT the rom fault).
Signal bar info isn't correct on any build pre FC15.
Market sometimes takes awhile to actually start downloading apps.
GPS sometimes doesn't turn OFF. <- eating your battery VERY quickly.

Toleraen said:
You are aware of the difference between "unknown dev-state leaks" versus "official releases", right? Also that devs post leaks for us to test and report back bugs, of which there are multiple threads containing these lists, right? The issues you report have been answered in several threads, several times.
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I wasn't reporting anything. I was just reflecting on how in 3.5 weeks of my absence, the most blatant deal breaker bugs have not been fixed.

I've never flashed an ICS rom but I use FC15 modem with blazer 4.0 and It's possibly the best modem I've used with this phone. Smooth as can be and what seems to be better data speeds than the other modems.

I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
I've never flashed an ICS rom but I use FC15 modem with blazer 4.0 and It's possibly the best modem I've used with this phone. Smooth as can be and what seems to be better data speeds than the other modems.
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Im on an ICS Rom...just flashed FC15 for test run...
I see 17 and 19 are due out soon...

Keep VZW Gnex?

Hey everybody. So I've had this device since December and when the 4.0.4 update was released for VZW users, I was not able to update. Upon further research, I found out that there was a mistake in the factory and the recovery image was not flashed, meaning I could not update software or perform factory resets. I brought it into Verizon and got a replacement, but I got a refurb with terrible signal issues. I went back to Verizon and they told me I could get a new phone. I am now eligible to get a new phone for free as a replacement. I purposely kept the Gnex until now so I could swap it out for the SIII that is releasing tomorrow. I actually fixed my Gnex on my own by flashing stock images of the 4.0.4 manually. So the question is, should I revert my phone back to 4.0.2 and leave out the recovery image when flashing in order to get the SIII, or keep my Gnex which is now working perfectly fine?

jttate04 said:
Hey everybody. So I've had this device since December and when the 4.0.4 update was released for VZW users, I was not able to update. Upon further research, I found out that there was a mistake in the factory and the recovery image was not flashed, meaning I could not update software or perform factory resets. I brought it into Verizon and got a replacement, but I got a refurb with terrible signal issues. I went back to Verizon and they told me I could get a new phone. I am now eligible to get a new phone for free as a replacement. I purposely kept the Gnex until now so I could swap it out for the SIII that is releasing tomorrow. I actually fixed my Gnex on my own by flashing stock images of the 4.0.4 manually. So the question is, should I revert my phone back to 4.0.2 and leave out the recovery image when flashing in order to get the SIII, or keep my Gnex which is now working perfectly fine?
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Keep the gnex and flash jellybean or cm9/aokp
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

If you want the extra RAM and locked bootloader, take it back and get the SIII.
If you want a phone with 4.1.1 today keep the Nexus, go to development section and flash jellybean already

Really wish people would grow a pair and just choose the device that they want, rather than asking a bunch of strangers that know nothing about them.

martonikaj said:
Really wish people would grow a pair and just choose the device that they want, rather than asking a bunch of strangers that know nothing about them.
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It's perfectly valid for someone to seek the opinions of others to help them in their decision.

Do mods matter to you
If you want to be able to easily load mods to your phone keep the Galaxy Nexus. If you want a painless, but Verizon-controlled environment get the SIII. If I was in your position I'd keep the Gnex, but your priorities may be different.

It really depends on what you're going to do with your phone. If you go the GS3 route, just be aware that given the current situation with the locked bootloader, your ability to customize the phone will be compromised, until devs really find an effective way to bypass the bootloader. There is the Developer Edition of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but that seems to be only available through Samsung and not Verizon.
At least by sticking with the Nexus, you have access to all the available custom roms now, as well as JB and so forth.
Sent from my Nook Color using Tapatalk

CKTurbo128 said:
It really depends on what you're going to do with your phone. If you go the GS3 route, just be aware that given the current situation with the locked bootloader, your ability to customize the phone will be compromised, until devs really find an effective way to bypass the bootloader. There is the Developer Edition of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, but that seems to be only available through Samsung and not Verizon.
At least by sticking with the Nexus, you have access to all the available custom roms now, as well as JB and so forth.
Sent from my Nook Color using Tapatalk
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Don't forget the wonderful gift of touchwiz

Has Google released the links for JellyBean for LTE Devices yet? I'm not using a GSM

jttate04 said:
Has Google released the links for JellyBean for LTE Devices yet? I'm not using a GSM
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No. There's no Verizon or Sprint OTAs yet. Source is out for GSM and Verizon though.

I'd get the GS3. If you find out you made the wrong choice you can sell the GS3 and re-buy a Nexus and make $.

You fixed terrible signal issues by flashing the phone? That's weird as signal issues have been reported as hardware related all over this forum.
But as its now fixed and working for you, I'd certainly keep it..There's a reason why you bought it in the first place, since its working why not keep it and save your upgrade.
For me, after having the freedom of a unlocked bootloader I'm not sure I can ever own a non-nexus device again!

[Q] Update to 4.4 KitKat Yes or No?

I had an i747M Galaxy S3 that I bought as an i747.
Had to send ot back, as thanks to DocHoliday77, I realized my network connectivity issues on AT&T in the US were because it was a Canadian version phone. Confirmed by AT&T as well.
I sent it back, got refunded, and now have a US version AT&T i747 running JB 4.1.1.
I keep getting prompted to update the software. (Firmware) According to AT&T TS, it would be an update to 4.4 KitKat.
My only option to avoid the update seems to be to root the phone. I really have no need to root the phone, but I don't know if I want the update.
I bought the phone outright, so it is mine. I do realize that rooting voids the warranty.
QUESTION 1: If I do root with the root injected firmware that does not trip the counter, will that prevent future OTA updates?
QUESTION 2: Is KitKat an improvement? Should I just let it do it?
I have gone to app mgr to try to force stop/ disable the "AT&T updater", but it is greyed out, so I can't disable it.
Thanks for any input!

I want to say there's a way to stop it w/o root, but I honestly can't remember!
I did want to suggest that while still on 4.1.1, take advantage and use the free Sim unlock method posted in General. That way if you ever sell it you can offer it to many more people than if it's locked.
Or if you ever need to use it on another network, you can.
As for kk, I can't do a full update unfortunately, but judging from the roms I've ported for the T999, I think it's great! There are plenty of people that will both agree and disagree though.
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I was only able to postpone it by doing a factory reset. No big deal as I do not have much stuff on the phone yet. It was going to do the update whether I wanted it or not, as I had postponed it a maximum of 3 times.
It's party the principle of the matter. I should not be forced to install a new version, but also I like this version fine, and AT&T has admitted problems with KitKat and the S4 (or maybe it was the S5?), and I don't want to run into any issues on mine. I own the phone outright, so I should be able to do what I want with it.
I still have 11 days to take it back to Best Buy and return it for full refund, so I guess I could let it update, and if I don't like it, I can return it, get another that has 4.1.1 on it, and root it.
I'll head over to general right now and do the free sim unlock.
Once again, thanks for your reply and insight Doc!

Evidently the update had already downloaded when I had the phone on wi-fi when I first got it. The install postponements were only allowed 3 times once the update was downloaded.
After I did the factory reset, I made sure I had wi-fi turned off.
Now, the check for updates button is the active one, whereas before, the continue update was highlited/active, and the check for updates was greyed out. This was because the update had already downloaded. Factory resetting got rid of it.
According to AT&T, the update can only be done when on wi-fi, so as long as I have my wi-fi turned off, it shouldn't be an issue.
I don't use wi-fi much at all, just my data plan.
This at least gives me some time to figure out a way to disable the updater, or root the phone, or go with the update. I may at some point want to use wi-fi, so I'll need to decide what to do.
Thanks again Doc!

I am using 4.4 and do not have any problems..... My battery life has been signicantly better on KK then JB and my ram sits at around 500mb.....this is my own opinion but I suggest to update after you do the free unlock

I will probably do that. I haven't unlocked the phone yet, as I guess I need another sim, non AT&T, to do the unlock?
Thanks for the info on the KK. I appreciate it!

Actually, no you don't need another sim! That's only if you unlock with a code.
There are unlock threads in all the forums, including this one. But I knew right where this one was so....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023709
Just follow instructions. Theyre the same for tmobile and att. I just knew exactly where to find the tmobile one.
Quite easy to do!
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