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I have had a Kindle Fire since they day they came out. I immediately disliked the stock Rom so I ran the kindle fire utility and installed Fire Fire Fire and TWRP, rooted it, and installed CM7 Rom which has been working great. Transferred files and programs between my PC and Kindle with no issue for months. Now with all the ICS roms available and working I decided to try and upgrade to one of those and thats when everything went wrong. Its in a bootloop and the triangle appears, fades, lights up again and immediately boots to TWRP. I have flashed the entire kindle using TWRP trying to get everything off of it. Upon plugging it into my PC BRIEFLY when the triangle logo pops up I get a "USB device not recognized" on my PC. I have tried using KFUtility to reinstall drivers, tried uninstalling n reinstalling drivers but the same thing happens. I cannot use TWRP to mount at all, nothing happens. Kindle Fire UTility keeps saying adb offline, CMD adb devices also results in 0 devices found. I have tried putting it on normal boot using both ADB and KFUtility and it says "wait for device" and nothing ever happens. Any idea? Not even sure if I have a rom installed on my kindle anymore but my PC wontread it so I cannot push another image to it. Got a plane trip on Saturday and would love to have this working to kill the bordom lol. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
It sounds like your bootmode is set to recovery. An easy way to fix this is download FFF1.4 to your computer and use the mount function in recovery to place it on your sdcard.
Flash it in recovery as you would a rom except don't wipe anything. When you reboot, hold the power button like you're trying to enter recovery and you'll be given the option to reset the bootmode.
Thank you so much for your advice but there in lies the problem. Inside the recovery console i choose to mount it and nothing happens. My PC will not let me access the kindle in anyway at all, either mounting the SD Card or via ADB/KFUtility.
anomiefaunus said:
Thank you so much for your advice but there in lies the problem. Inside the recovery console i choose to mount it and nothing happens. My PC will not let me access the kindle in anyway at all, either mounting the SD Card or via ADB/KFUtility.
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Generally, the only thing that would prevent adb/kfu from communicating with the device is the drivers. Make sure they're installed properly. You may have to uninstall them (delete if applicable) and reinstall them.
Follow the instructions in this guide to install and verify your drivers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
K heres the latest (we r making progress!)
I got my device to be detected by my PC and used KFutility to change it to normal boot. Now instead of booting into recovery everytime it boots normally.... to a black screen (guessing my rom is shot or I deleted it while playing with it). The issue is the ONLY time my PC recognizes my kindle is for a .5 second period when i first turn my KF on and the yellow triangle appears. I can use this window to change it to normal bootmode, reinstall TeamWin, stuff like that, but i cannot mount it so I can transfer or adb so I can push. You can watch device manager and it'll pop up ADB android phone or whatever it should but poof, a second later gone.
anomiefaunus said:
K heres the latest (we r making progress!)
I got my device to be detected by my PC and used KFutility to change it to normal boot. Now instead of booting into recovery everytime it boots normally.... to a black screen (guessing my rom is shot or I deleted it while playing with it). The issue is the ONLY time my PC recognizes my kindle is for a .5 second period when i first turn my KF on and the yellow triangle appears. I can use this window to change it to normal bootmode, reinstall TeamWin, stuff like that, but i cannot mount it so I can transfer or adb so I can push. You can watch device manager and it'll pop up ADB android phone or whatever it should but poof, a second later gone.
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Get your device drivers working so you can use adb. Follow the instructions in the post below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26144447
That is excellent advice and I wish it would work but I cannot pull up ADB once in TeamWin. Keeps saying no devices. As i said my PC detects it and ADB will detect it for .5 seconds on the orange triangle. Once the orange triangle disappears and it either boots to blackness or boots to TeamWin ADB stops recognizing my device. But I will play around with your suggestions once I get off work and let you know what i find out. Thanks again for everyones support.
Frozen screen during rooting
Hi,
I am new to the forum. I have a kF screen stuck (where it says 'kindle fire') while I was trying to root it. I tried hard reset, charging for half hour, calling AMAZON...nothing works. The screen goes off if I hold it for 20 seconds but when I put it back on same thing. I was trying to root it with 'fastboot (?). Is there anything at all I can do? Thanks.
peredexter said:
Hi,
I am new to the forum. I have a kF screen stuck (where it says 'kindle fire') while I was trying to root it. I tried hard reset, charging for half hour, calling AMAZON...nothing works. The screen goes off if I hold it for 20 seconds but when I put it back on same thing. I was trying to root it with 'fastboot (?). Is there anything at all I can do? Thanks.
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Don't hijack the threads please. If you have a problem or question, post it in the Q&A section.
Okay, I have been through this board several times and googled it, but maybe I am not searching for the right thing and I would find it hard to believe that my situation is unique. Anyways I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
On to the issue, I connected my kindle fire tried to install TWRP, but it froze and I was stuck on the Kindle Fire Logo so after exhaustive searching I went with the USB Shorting Trick, so then I was able to get TWRP up and running. The only issue is that now I can only get the kindle fire to boot up when connected via USB and using Firekit LiveUSB. One out of 25 times I can actually get it to go into ICS, but as soon as I power it off, then there is no power light and it won't reboot unless using Firekit LiveUSB.
Anybody have any ideas or solution that has worked.
Thanks in advance.
thequietone said:
Okay, I have been through this board several times and googled it, but maybe I am not searching for the right thing and I would find it hard to believe that my situation is unique. Anyways I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
On to the issue, I connected my kindle fire tried to install TWRP, but it froze and I was stuck on the Kindle Fire Logo so after exhaustive searching I went with the USB Shorting Trick, so then I was able to get TWRP up and running. The only issue is that now I can only get the kindle fire to boot up when connected via USB and using Firekit LiveUSB. One out of 25 times I can actually get it to go into ICS, but as soon as I power it off, then there is no power light and it won't reboot unless using Firekit LiveUSB.
Anybody have any ideas or solution that has worked.
Thanks in advance.
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Are you opening up the case each time you use usbboot?
What Firekit script are you using to boot the device?
What happens when it fails to fully boot in to the system?
Is your battery charged?
usbboot only loads a bootloader into memory temporarily. Once you've got the device booted, you need to flash a new bootloader permanently onto the device. I suggest FFF 1.4a...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375
usb boot only
Nope I only opened the case the one time, now it's closed and it won't boot without being plugged in and executing usb_install_fff_twrp or usb_boot_twrp. I have tried flashing with TWRP several times fff 1.4a to no avail when it goes to reboot, it won't show anything on the screen and there is no power light on, yet I know the device is working because I can connect the USB and run one of the usb scripts and it works.
I am using Firekit LiveUSB 1.1.
I am not sure how to answer the fully boot into the system since nothing happens, no power light and nothing on the screen when I attempt to turn it on.
I have flashed it several times with TWRP and I would have thought that a reboot when TWRP says it's done would have worked.
The battery is fully charged.
Get it booted temporarily disconnect the battery then reconnect it let it continue to charge via usb maybe it will correct your problem. Or replace your system with something stock like without going fully stock paul has a new release http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916 good luck
usb boot only
So unplugging the battery while plugged in via USB doesn't work, however I am able to get it to boot into ICS I just have to unplug the USB right after the script says Flash FFF... That would lead me to believe it's a problem with the boot loader, but I have tried several times to flash it with fff-u-boot_v1.4a.zip with no luck.
thequietone said:
Nope I only opened the case the one time, now it's closed and it won't boot without being plugged in and executing usb_install_fff_twrp or usb_boot_twrp. I have tried flashing with TWRP several times fff 1.4a to no avail when it goes to reboot, it won't show anything on the screen and there is no power light on, yet I know the device is working because I can connect the USB and run one of the usb scripts and it works.
I am using Firekit LiveUSB 1.1.
I am not sure how to answer the fully boot into the system since nothing happens, no power light and nothing on the screen when I attempt to turn it on.
I have flashed it several times with TWRP and I would have thought that a reboot when TWRP says it's done would have worked.
The battery is fully charged.
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The fact that you are able to use those scripts indicates you are in usbboot mode (4003) or the hardware is defaulting to usbboot on its own which probably indicates that something about your bootloaders is a little off...
Try using the "fix all" script (I don't recall the exact name). This will return your partition table back to stock and then flash both the 1st and 2nd stage bootloaders.
Also try flashing FFF 1.4a again with TWRP and take note of the output it gives you if it fails.
usb boot only
Successfully ran the usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp
Then installed fff 1.4a and the output was
finding update package...
opening update package...
installing update...
FireFireFire 1.4a Originally By Pokey9000 and Modified by Hashcode
Checking sha1sum of boot loader file...
Check passed.
Attempting to Write Bootloader...
Done!
E:Cannot load volume /misc!
Did a reboot and it still only will boot back up with the USB
thequietone said:
Successfully ran the usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp
Then installed fff 1.4a and the output was
finding update package...
opening update package...
installing update...
FireFireFire 1.4a Originally By Pokey9000 and Modified by Hashcode
Checking sha1sum of boot loader file...
Check passed.
Attempting to Write Bootloader...
Done!
E:Cannot load volume /misc!
Did a reboot and it still only will boot back up with the USB
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See if you can set the bootmode back to normal and reboot it. Running as root...
Code:
usbboot /root/firekit/aboot.bin /root/firekit/u-boot.bin; fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000; fastboot reboot
usb boot only
Tried connecting to PC running UBUNTU and ran the USBBOOT command and got nothing, so I powered off and ran the command and then reconnected the cable and ran the USBBOOT command and got the <waiting for device> after the sending image to target, then few seconds later got the FAILED (remote failure)
thequietone said:
Tried connecting to PC running UBUNTU and ran the USBBOOT command and got nothing, so I powered off and ran the command and then reconnected the cable and ran the USBBOOT command and got the <waiting for device> after the sending image to target, then few seconds later got the FAILED (remote failure)
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Did you ever have Hashcode's CWM recovery installed on your device or have you always used TWRP?
Have you run those Firekit scripts again after you installed FFF 1.4a?
The only other thing I can think of is that your device's bootmode is set to USB boot and that's why it doesn't load up the bootloader already installed on your Kindle Fire. It's seems to be waiting for you to use usbboot to send it a bootloader. Get to TWRP again, flash FFF 1.4a and run these adb command to set the bootmode to 4000 and reboot...
Code:
adb shell idme bootmode 4000
adb reboot
The problem is I can't get FFF 1.4a installed. When I try to do it via TWRP which is the only utility I have tried it appears to load successfully, but when I do the reboot, the screen won't come on and there is no power light. So I hold down the power button for the 20 seconds then run the FireKit commands hook up the USB and it boots back up, but won't boot on it's own.
Have you found a fix yet? I may have a solution from my experience with mine, which was bricked beyond imaginable (don't ask how ). I was able to install FFF+TWRP and restore to stock perfectly fine.
It boots into ICS if I connect the USB cord. From there I am able to run everything, including ADB commands etc, however from trying to flash FFF 1.4a to resetting the boot mode has failed. Was even able to boot from USB with FFF 1.4a.
So the short story it's still not working. If you power off, it won't come back without the help of doing a usb boot.
thequietone said:
It boots into ICS if I connect the USB cord. From there I am able to run everything, including ADB commands etc, however from trying to flash FFF 1.4a to resetting the boot mode has failed. Was even able to boot from USB with FFF 1.4a.
So the short story it's still not working. If you power off, it won't come back without the help of doing a usb boot.
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You didn't answer the question of whether or not you've used Hashcode's CWMR.
From TWRP, run these commands...
Code:
adb shell idme ?
adb shell parted /dev/block/mmcblk0 unit b print
and paste the output here.
Also, if you can load ICS, download/install smirkit...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500935
and try to install FFF 1.4a that way. Using smirkit will raw write the bootloader image directly onto the partition.
Here is the screen shot. Couldn't get smirkit installed.
Did this ever get resolved? I am in the same boat. The only way I could get my KF to boot up was to use the USB short trick, but now, it won't let me go back to turning it on the normal way. It requires USB boot every time. Please help!!!
Still Unresolved
Nope I am still having the same issue. Right now, I just try to keep it charged hoping it won't die, because if it does then I have to USB boot to get it back up and running
dmp2007 said:
Did this ever get resolved? I am in the same boat. The only way I could get my KF to boot up was to use the USB short trick, but now, it won't let me go back to turning it on the normal way. It requires USB boot every time. Please help!!!
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shoot, I was going to flash the bootloader tonight hoping that would fix it, but it looks like you've already tried that and it didn't work. Did your, or anyone else's, happen to stop responding to touch after the usb short as well? Using USB boot, i can get to the unlock (or recovery, touch doesnt work there either), but the screen doesn't respond to my touch. I know it isn't freezing because the clock still updates.
I haven't heard of it responding to touch. Mine works perfectly except for always having to USB Boot if it dies or if someone holds down the power button too long.
QUOTE=dmp2007;28967427]shoot, I was going to flash the bootloader tonight hoping that would fix it, but it looks like you've already tried that and it didn't work. Did your, or anyone else's, happen to stop responding to touch after the usb short as well? Using USB boot, i can get to the unlock (or recovery, touch doesnt work there either), but the screen doesn't respond to my touch. I know it isn't freezing because the clock still updates.[/QUOTE]
I too get this, I've been through what feels like every thread on here about this, only a few of these show up as the 'usb boot only' though and they all end in no answer. I have tried all forms of partitioning up to and including dd'n the p1.img over top of xloader and p2.img on top of bootloader.
With usb, i can go back fully stock (however, even fully stock wont boot without usb boot.. so its got to be busted xloader or bootloader), i can get TWRP installed, any ROM and its all usable.. until as OP said.. power out or reboot needed. It's bothering me enough just wanting to fix it I keep rebreaking perfectly good installs thinking some nugget I found/missed re-reading endless posts is the one.. just in case someone else comes through with this, here are my findings:
happened to me as originally I bricked to the point had to crack it open and short it to get it to boot via usb, finally working well using liveUSB firekit. However, from that point on, would NEVER boot on its own, and would NEVER shutdown/reboot without needing 20-30s of power button molestation. perhaps this is left over issue of the pin short... dunno
Once i figured out I could usbboot, basically went on with everything as normal. recovery, roms, back to stock, back to rom, etc etc. What seemingly never works, or simply oui can never get to, is the bootloader. All indications that I have known/been able to check seem to think its iinstalling, perhaps we are just never making it to it (xloader death)
So then I went crazy and tried everything from adb/fastboot raw on Mac, windows and linux, setting bootmode to 4000 every way with every tool listed on this site possible.. no joy.. usbboot is a must. Tried zeroing the mmcblk0p1/p2 and writing good versions on top, nothing.
Current state.. if I, via adb/fastboot/twrp/recovery do a reboot or shutdown.. the kindle shuts down screen and led's only (sometimes even leaving the green power light on, but almost ALWAYS just all black, but not off) .. dmesg notes that its stuck in a usb connect/disconnect loop, with an error:
new high-speed USB device number 33 using ehci_hcd
unable to get BOS descriptor
New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=d00f
New USB device strings: Mfr=33, Product=37, SerialNumber=0
Product: OMAP4430
Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
USB disconnect, device number 33
rinse, repeat, about every 3 seconds.
As you can see, BOS descriptor can't be found.. which is just a little stupid because the port its plugged into is 2.0
bcdUSB 2.00
but maybe there is still something there? not changing any port though, usbboot has no problem.
I sniffed the traffic of the usb bus while plugging in the USB cable after shutting down via 30 second hold, and its pretty much the same thing, just bouncing the connection before it has time to get started.. so it seems to be hitting this "issue" both on shutdown/reboot and startup. As I can't really tell, with usb being the only way for me to talk to the KF, I can only assume after a hard shutdown when I push the button again its probably doing the same thing (no lights, no screen), but I can confirm once I plug in the usb and it tries to boot itself.
Only sort of difference is sometimes it can go down into the dark reboot and I am able to run usbboot and it comes back up (usb never unplugged) but its been sporadic so I haven't chased it.
At this point I just want to figure out exactly what bit needs flipped in the front somewhere so I can reboot my KF like all the cool kids so I'll probably keep hacking on this issue until I really really brick it or hopefully help comes along or I figure it out myself. One good sign is I know have completely working dev/hack environments on OSX, win7, liveusb ubuntu AND linux mint debian so, I guess that is something.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE USBBOOT ONLY PEOPLE!! one love. =P
Hi All.
I’ve rooted my Kindle device successfully before (during v6.2 – have the driver installed from this and cable worked successfully )
Now with the 6.3.1, I used the KFU v0.9.6 to do it – option 2 ‘Install Permanent Root with Superuser’
Followed the instructions as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
- On my XP machine, it detected my Kindle initially but it stopped and my Kindle Fire was showing the stock welcome screen but kept on rebooting.
- Then I tried on a Win 7 machine and ran option 2 again – it did something and now my Kindle is stuck on the FFF screen (Kindle Fire logo in blue and white – v1.4a).
- Now when I run ‘ran.bat’, pc it shows ‘waiting for device’
- The FFF screen was blinking initially but now it’s permanently on.
- I can off my Kindle by pressing the on button for about 20 seconds and when I connect my Kindle in the off state to the pc, it turns on and remain on the FFF screen
1. Installing the driver
So I figured the above is due to the driver.
- However, the Kindle is not appearing in the Device Manager with a yellow ! – hence can’t manually install the drivers.
- Tried install_drivers.bat – it says ‘Google, Inc. (WinUSB)…..Install failed (Unsigned)’
- I ensured that the ‘Driver Signing Options’ is set to ‘Ignore – Install the software and don’t ask for my approval’ and ‘Make this action the system default’.
- So next, I tried to force my XP to install the drivers (Kindle unplugged), by using ‘Add Hardware’ and installing drivers from c:\kfu\drivers –
- Installed all 3 drivers – Android ADB Interface, Android Bootloader Interface & Android Composite ADB Interface.
- Received this message at the end – ‘The software for this device is now installed, but may not work correctly. The device cannot start. (Code 10)’
- But when I plugged in my Kindle and run KFU it still says ‘waiting for device’.
I tried the above steps with:-
- 3 XP machines and 1 Win 7, and
- on different USB ports (tried both USB 2.0 and 3.0)
- and tried using 4 different usb cables
- Same results ‘waiting for device’
- One exception though – for the Win 7 machine – when I ‘install_drivers.bat’, it says ‘Google, Inc. (WinUSB) ….Ready to use’ – but still shows ‘waiting for device’, when running KFU.
2. Delete old drivers
Followed this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459116) to uninstall the drivers (including the Microsoft support page).
- But XP and Win 7 still did not detect the Kindle in ‘Device Manager’
- Tried to force install the 3 drivers again and still ‘waiting for device’
Additionally tried to download the Google Usb driver from Android SDK - same issue - no yellow !
And tried to connect via 'c:\KindleAdb\adb devices' (learned from the previous root exercise) - no devices appears.
3. Kindle Fire Unbrick Utility
Tried this next - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428428
Tried the many options available. When it is executed, its says ‘error’, despite saying Kindle unbricked at the end.
4. Firekit LiveUSB repair kit 1.1
Finally decided to use the Linux method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430038)
- Created a USB Ubuntu and ran the program but suprisingly still the same problem – stuck at ‘waiting for device’ (see snapshot attached).
So I’m a bit confused right now. From the above it seems to me that the Kindle is not talking to the PC.
- But if in Linux, it doesn’t work (which from what I read doesn’t require a driver?) then it could possibly be my cable.
- But the cable did work when I rooted in 6.2 and it also worked initially when I used KFU. And also, I tried with 4 different cables.
- Am not sure if the cables are ‘factory cable’ – but it did work initially.
I’m stuck here. Any help/advice would be deeply appreciated. Thank you.
A few things that might help you...
1) If you have FFF 1.4a, you can access its boot menu and have the device boot normally or into recovery. As it boots up, look at the power button LED and watch as it goes from a bright green to a dim green. As soon as it goes dim, press and release the button to bring up the menu on the screen. You can then flip through the menu options by repeatedly pressing and releasing the power button. Leave it alone for a few seconds and it will continue to boot using the selected option.
2) If you don't know whether or not you have a factory cable, you probably don't have one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550999
3) For the computer to issue fastboot commands to the device, it must already be connected to the computer before booting into fastboot mode. That is... you cannot boot the KF into fastboot mode and then connect it to the computer. If the computer is <waiting for device>, try turning the KF off by pressing and holding the power button for around 20 seconds to shut it down completely, then turning it back on again. For more information on fastboot....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668159
If the above suggestions don't work for you, make sure you are getting the expected hardware IDs shown in the previous link.
Thank you kinfauns for your immediately reply.
kinfauns said:
A few things that might help you...
1) If you have FFF 1.4a, you can access its boot menu and have the device boot normally or into recovery. As it boots up, look at the power button LED and watch as it goes from a bright green to a dim green. As soon as it goes dim, press and release the button to bring up the menu on the screen. You can then flip through the menu options by repeatedly pressing and releasing the power button. Leave it alone for a few seconds and it will continue to boot using the selected option.
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Unfortunately this doesn't happen on my KF. The power button is bright green. And the bootlogo is persistent and remain bright on the display.
I've tried repeatedly pressing and releasing the power button but didn't work.
2) If you don't know whether or not you have a factory cable, you probably don't have one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550999
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Just bought a USB factory fastboot mode cable online .
3) For the computer to issue fastboot commands to the device, it must already be connected to the computer before booting into fastboot mode. That is... you cannot boot the KF into fastboot mode and then connect it to the computer. If the computer is <waiting for device>, try turning the KF off by pressing and holding the power button for around 20 seconds to shut it down completely, then turning it back on again. For more information on fastboot....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1668159
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I tried this method but nothing changes - when I turn it back on, it goes back to the bootlogo. KFU still says <waiting for device>.
Also tried 'Temporary fastboot mode' - 'fastboot getvar product' - still <waiting for device>.
If the above suggestions don't work for you, make sure you are getting the expected hardware IDs shown in the previous link.
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My KF doesn't show up on 'Device Manager' - no yellow question mark or whatsoever.
When I manually installed 'Android ADB Interface' - it shows an yellow ! and even after I connect the KF it still shows the yellow !.
Current hardware ID (for 'Android ADB Interface' with yellow !): usb\vid_0bb4&pid_0c01
Device status: This device cannot start. (Code 10)
So I guess, I will wait for my factory cable, unless you have any other suggestions? Thank you.
ivanovicch said:
My KF doesn't show up on 'Device Manager' - no yellow question mark or whatsoever.
When I manually installed 'Android ADB Interface' - it shows an yellow ! and even after I connect the KF it still shows the yellow !.
Current hardware ID (for 'Android ADB Interface' with yellow !): usb\vid_0bb4&pid_0c01
Device status: This device cannot start. (Code 10)
So I guess, I will wait for my factory cable, unless you have any other suggestions? Thank you.
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I have no idea what that ID number is, but it's definitely not the one you should see for fastboot. That means you have those drivers installed on the wrong interface. I also suspect your bootloader might be corrupt or otherwise not functioning correctly. Using the factory cable will give you a better idea what's going on since you can (almost) be certain that the device has put itself into fastboot mode. Then you can focus on getting the drivers installed properly for the interface that appears in the device manager. As a last resort, you might have to open up the case and use USB boot (in Firekit) to flash a new bootloader.
Just quickly skimmed over your thread but have you tried holding down the power button for a minute or so and then powering it on? I would tend to agree with kinfauns that somehow your bootloader is broken if so a factory cable will do nothing only firekit will remedy a broken bootloader that's why I ask about the long press power off attempt...
Thepooch said:
Just quickly skimmed over your thread but have you tried holding down the power button for a minute or so and then powering it on? I would tend to agree with kinfauns that somehow your bootloader is broken if so a factory cable will do nothing only firekit will remedy a broken bootloader that's why I ask about the long press power off attempt...
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I pressed power button for more than a minute - tried 2 ways:-
- with the KF on - it switches off and remains switched off.
- with the KF off - it switches on for a bit and then switches off and remains switched off.
I'll just give the factory cable a try when it arrives - will update here again. Hopefully I don't have to open up the case.
Thanks kinfauns and Thepooch.
I have no idea what that ID number is, but it's definitely not the one you should see for fastboot. That means you have those drivers installed on the wrong interface. I also suspect your bootloader might be corrupt or otherwise not functioning correctly. Using the factory cable will give you a better idea what's going on since you can (almost) be certain that the device has put itself into fastboot mode. Then you can focus on getting the drivers installed properly for the interface that appears in the device manager. As a last resort, you might have to open up the case and use USB boot (in Firekit) to flash a new bootloader.
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Just quickly skimmed over your thread but have you tried holding down the power button for a minute or so and then powering it on? I would tend to agree with kinfauns that somehow your bootloader is broken if so a factory cable will do nothing only firekit will remedy a broken bootloader that's why I ask about the long press power off attempt...
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Just to update - the factory cable didn't do the trick. KF still stuck at KF blue/white logo - the bootloader must be corrupted.
Hence am going to try opening the case and flash a new bootloader. Wish me luck - will update again soon. Thanks.
Please help me My Kindle is stuck at black screen after Kindle Fire logo. I have Android Composite ADB Interface driver installed, but when I plugged my Kindle Fire to my PC, it detected as a USB Mass Storage, and won't connect as an Android device so I couldn't do anything with adb commands or KFU...
See it in my topic for more information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30542544#post30542544
ivanovicch said:
Just to update - the factory cable didn't do the trick. KF still stuck at KF blue/white logo - the bootloader must be corrupted.
Hence am going to try opening the case and flash a new bootloader. Wish me luck - will update again soon. Thanks.
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Dear All. My KF is ALIVE! Had to open my back case and do the short point trick - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405052.
Worked like a charm.
Thanks pokey9000, kinfauns and mainly the Thepooch - thank you for guiding me through this.
your welcome I`m quite pleased its fixed myself
same issue not unable to solve
i have exact same issue but i am having a problem to fix it. i wonder if anyone can help me here. i am trying to short the test point but in device manager its shoing usb not recognized again and again. please guide me whats wrong i am doing. using windows 7 (64bit)
I have kfhd7 (tate) and i updated it from cm12.1 to cm13 but after the reboot it is now stuck on white-blue "kindle fire" logo. everytime i reboot it shows the white-yellow logo and then gets stuck on the blue one. moreover, i cant get to twrp3 using keys as it gets stuck and device gets hot. Tried fastboot and adb but the devices is shown offline. I dont have access to a fastboot cable and even dont hope that i will get one shipped sooner. kinldy help
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I have kfhd7 (tate) and i updated it from cm12.1 to cm13 but after the reboot it is now stuck on white-blue "kindle fire" logo. everytime i reboot it shows the white-yellow logo and then gets stuck on the blue one. moreover, i cant get to twrp3 using keys as it gets stuck and device gets hot. Tried fastboot and adb but the devices is shown offline. I dont have access to a fastboot cable and even dont hope that i will get one shipped sooner. kinldy help
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this is only for kindle fire 1 (2011)
there is a separate section for device see
Fire Index: Which Amazon (Kindle) Fire Do I have?
for correct forum link
Sent from my XT1254 using XDA Labs
I got this kindle fire that I am trying to fix for my kid. I don't know what firmware was in. The KF has never been rooted. We tried to call Amazon for a replacement, but since I didn't remember which email account was tied to this KF and I couldn't find the Serial Number either, I got stuck with it. If could make this device to boot one more time to see the amazon account or the serial number that will be great.
Well anyways, these are the symptoms. After lots of hours of reading about bricked Kindle Fires I decided to order a factory cable suspecting the problem was a low battery KF going into a 5 second loop. The process went good. I was able to flash FFF 1.4a and TWRP 2.2.2.1 by going into fastboot mode, but the problem is that the KF does not want to start in recovery mode, nor in normal mode.
At this point, I think I can rule out a battery low problem, but I am not sure.
No matter what I do, I cannot enter to adb mode, and this is the real problem I don't seem to find an answer. If there was a way that I could upload the firmware from fastboot mode or a tool that forces recovery mode.
As I said this KF was always stock until today that I tried to unbrick it by installing the FFF and the TWRP. The TWRP never started.
As I said earlier my only objective at this point is to recover the serial number or the account email associated with my KF.
Question 2, how can I revert to the stock bootloader if everything else fails?
Any suggestions, links, ideas will be welcome.
gwmadrigal said:
I got this kindle fire that I am trying to fix for my kid. I don't know what firmware was in. The KF has never been rooted. We tried to call Amazon for a replacement, but since I didn't remember which email account was tied to this KF and I couldn't find the Serial Number either, I got stuck with it. If could make this device to boot one more time to see the amazon account or the serial number that will be great.
Well anyways, these are the symptoms. After lots of hours of reading about bricked Kindle Fires I decided to order a factory cable suspecting the problem was a low battery KF going into a 5 second loop. The process went good. I was able to flash FFF 1.4a and TWRP 2.2.2.1 by going into fastboot mode, but the problem is that the KF does not want to start in recovery mode, nor in normal mode.
At this point, I think I can rule out a battery low problem, but I am not sure.
No matter what I do, I cannot enter to adb mode, and this is the real problem I don't seem to find an answer. If there was a way that I could upload the firmware from fastboot mode or a tool that forces recovery mode.
As I said this KF was always stock until today that I tried to unbrick it by installing the FFF and the TWRP. The TWRP never started.
As I said earlier my only objective at this point is to recover the serial number or the account email associated with my KF.
Question 2, how can I revert to the stock bootloader if everything else fails?
Any suggestions, links, ideas will be welcome.
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I hate to ask this question but do you know how to access recovery by using the power button to get the boot menu then selecting recovery? If you are using the boot menu to attempt to access recovery and its not cooperating it`s possible that points to a broken bootloader or a broken recovery. When you flashed both fff and twrp did you see that it sent and physically wrote each one? maybe explain how you flashed them so we can see if a error was made there. What level do you believe the battery is at? Possible it could be playing a role in your present issue.
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I hate to ask this question but do you know how to access recovery by using the power button to get the boot menu then selecting recovery? If you are using the boot menu to attempt to access recovery and its not cooperating it`s possible that points to a broken bootloader or a broken recovery. When you flashed both fff and twrp did you see that it sent and physically wrote each one? maybe explain how you flashed them so we can see if a error was made there. What level do you believe the battery is at? Possible it could be playing a role in your present issue.
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I have done a lot of experiments with my SGS2 about installing ROMS using ODIN or CWR, backing up my own images and making backups. Most of the work I do though is in CWR. I haven't dealt with TWR yet. I also installed ICS on my HP Touchpad. So, even though this is the first time I deal with the KF, I already some experience working with ROMS and images.
Back to the process. I installed the FFF using the Kindle Fire Utility. The KF was forced to fastboot mode via the factory cable. At first I could see on the KF splash screen with the black and orange logo, and now the KF is booting using a Black and Blue kindle fire logo with 1.4a on top. At the bottom of the splash I see instructions of the bootloader selector indicating to press the power button and select the mode that I want to boot. Either Normal Mode or Recovery Mode.
I flashed the TWRP 2.2.2.1 in fastboot mode using my command prompt by putting this code:
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fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery [path]\openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze.img
I was following the instructions on this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I got stuck on step 3 after attempting to boot into recovery mode.
I can select which boot mode I want to go, but none of them work. I only get on the bottom of the screen saying Booting... and then the KF shuts down.
I suspect the battery had a good level of charge, but I can't tell for sure.
Thanks for everything.
Download TWRP again, check the md5, reinstall, and post whatever error messages (if any) that are in your command window here.
In the meantime, enter the following command and let me know what happens after you reboot.
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fastboot oem idme bootmode 5001
fastboot reboot
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Download TWRP again, check the md5, reinstall, and post whatever error messages (if any) that are in your command window here.
In the meantime, enter the following command and let me know what happens after you reboot.
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fastboot oem idme bootmode 5001
fastboot reboot
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All commands were successful.
When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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What happens when you change the bootmode to 5001?
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What happens when you change the bootmode to 5001?
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It accepts the command.
The command prompt responds saying something like it took 0. something seconds to execute the command.
Thanks for reading my thread.
If upon rebooting, the result is the same after changing the bootmode, it is possible the bootloader isn't working properly. If that's the case, flashing a new bootloader (with md5 verified) might not work, but it's worth a shot.
If that doesn't work, you should be able to change the bootmode to USBboot (4003) and use Firekit to replace the bootloader, but that's speaking theoretically. I've never tried it so I couldn't tell you whether it would work or not. But then you could always pull the back cover off the device and use the shorting trick to use Firekit in USBboot.
If installing a bootloader with the Firekit doesn't work, you're likely looking at a hardware issue, and there's not much we can do about that.
soupmagnet said:
1. If upon rebooting, the result is the same after changing the bootmode, it is possible the bootloader isn't working properly. If that's the case, flashing a new bootloader (with md5 verified) might not work, but it's worth a shot.
2. If that doesn't work, you should be able to change the bootmode to USBboot (4003) and use Firekit to replace the bootloader, but that's speaking theoretically. I've never tried it so I couldn't tell you whether it would work or not. But then you could always pull the back cover off the device and use the shorting trick to use Firekit in USBboot.
3. If installing a bootloader with the Firekit doesn't work, you're likely looking at a hardware issue, and there's not much we can do about that.
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2 sounds too complicated. I will need to read more.
I'm at work. I am going to try number 1 when I get home.
One more question, how can I revert the KF so when the it boots it shows the original orange white logo?
Thanks for everything.
gwmadrigal said:
2 sounds too complicated. I will need to read more.
I'm at work. I am going to try number 1 when I get home.
One more question, how can I revert the KF so when the it boots it shows the original orange white logo?
Thanks for everything.
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If you have any questions about using Firekit, don't be afraid to ask.
Get your device working properly before attempting to revert the bootloader back to stock. Contrary to what you may think, the custom bootloader is much better for you in this situation.
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When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
Thepooch said:
I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I think that would be the case if the device just rebooted. The OP is saying the device shuts down when FFF starts to load the operating system (Booting...) or recovery, which is why I think it is either the bootloader or some hardware issue.
soupmagnet said:
If you have any questions about using Firekit, don't be afraid to ask.
Get your device working properly before attempting to revert the bootloader back to stock. Contrary to what you may think, the custom bootloader is much better for you in this situation.
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I tried reloading the u-boot using fastboot and the upload was successful. But it's doing exactly the same.I guess my only question right now, do you know of any good guide that I should start reading to get my feet wet on what the firekit is and how to get started?
Thepooch said:
I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I have nothing to lose. This KF is already bricked. I can certainly try anything. Which cable do you suggest I use? the Factory cable or the USB cable?
I think I answered my own question now. Using a regular USB cable puts the KF in the bootloop. I will use the factory cable instead. I shut down the KF, put the factory cable connected to my computer and the KF. Right now the KF is in the KindleFire splash screen waiting for fastboot commands of for me to use the button to tell it which mode to boot. I will leave it plug overnight.
Thanks for replying on my thread and trying to help me.
soupmagnet said:
I think that would be the case if the device just rebooted. The OP is saying the device shuts down when FFF starts to load the operating system (Booting...) or recovery, which is why I think it is either the bootloader or some hardware issue.
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I posted a video in utube of what the KF is doing, so you can see what I'm seeing.
Link
Thanks for coming back several times to reply on my thread.
That looks like your battery. From what I can tell, the device is just rebooting, not shutting down.
Unplug the device and hold the power button to perform a hard shutdown.
Plug the device in (it should power up on it's own) and hold the power button to shut it down again.
Leave it plugged into the computer until sometime tomorrow and try again.
Same thing I was thinking 5 second bootloop Thank you the video was very helpful to see just how its acting. Use stock cable to charge not factory.
OKay. I'm glad I came to check the thread one more time before going to bed. I removed the factory cable and put the regular usb instead. The KF was rebooting. I shut down the KF by holding the power button without unplugging the cable. Now the KF appears to be shut down, but the cable is still plugged. The yellow light does not appear as it normally would if it was charging though. I don't know if this is normal.
gwmadrigal said:
OKay. I'm glad I came to check the thread one more time before going to bed. I removed the factory cable and put the regular usb instead. The KF was rebooting. I shut down the KF by holding the power button without unplugging the cable. Now the KF appears to be shut down, but the cable is still plugged. The yellow light does not appear as it normally would if it was charging though. I don't know if this is normal.
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I think you're fine let it rest.
Background: Kindle Fire 1st generation. Stuck on "kindle fire" logo screen. This is a stock KF -- never any previous attempts to root it.
KFU is unable to connect to the device -- or get it into fastboot. I purchased a factory cable, and that also was not successful. (BTW, I have a different KF 1st gen that works fine, and KFU recognizes it and can fastboot perfectly fine with that one).
I also attempted using the Firekit utility on a Debian Linux system. The tool seems to have the same issue -- gives me a "error: device not found" message when trying to set bootmode.
The "Post #1" HOW-TO by kinfauns talks about the bad bootloader scenario, and it mentions opening the case to short a circuit in order to enable USB boot. Can someone please point me to a link regarding this shorting technique? I think that is my next step.
Thanks,
lob455
lob455 said:
Background: Kindle Fire 1st generation. Stuck on "kindle fire" logo screen. This is a stock KF -- never any previous attempts to root it.
KFU is unable to connect to the device -- or get it into fastboot. I purchased a factory cable, and that also was not successful. (BTW, I have a different KF 1st gen that works fine, and KFU recognizes it and can fastboot perfectly fine with that one).
I also attempted using the Firekit utility on a Debian Linux system. The tool seems to have the same issue -- gives me a "error: device not found" message when trying to set bootmode.
The "Post #1" HOW-TO by kinfauns talks about the bad bootloader scenario, and it mentions opening the case to short a circuit in order to enable USB boot. Can someone please point me to a link regarding this shorting technique? I think that is my next step.
Thanks,
lob455
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Does it show up in Device manager? as kindle, android phone, or something else...?
sd_shadow said:
Does it show up in Device manager? as kindle, android phone, or something else...?
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No. When connected to the Windows7 machine, the bootloop-stuck KF is not recognized at all (regardless of whether using the standard USB cable or the factory cable).
On the working KF which was purchased from Amazon at the same time, Device Manager shows this working KF as "Android phone".
lob455 said:
No. When connected to the Windows7 machine, the bootloop-stuck KF is not recognized at all (regardless of whether using the standard USB cable or the factory cable).
On the working KF which was purchased from Amazon at the same time, Device Manager shows this working KF as "Android phone".
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Fairly certain your battery is dead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244 . If so you can shock it`s inards and hook up fastboot cable all day long and it wont make a bit of difference till you get a new battery.
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Fairly certain your battery is dead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244 . If so you can shock it`s inards and hook up fastboot cable all day long and it wont make a bit of difference till you get a new battery.
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Thanks to Thepooch. Progress has been made. I was admittedly very skeptical about the dead battery theory. This Kindle Fire had been connected to a charger for literally days if not weeks. But I grabbed my wife's 2A charger and connected it.
Okay. Here is where the weird part starts.....
After several hours on the 2A charger, I hit the power button and got a TWRP Recovery screen! I was astounded. When using KFU, I have always gotten "ADB Status: Offline" and "Boot Status: Unknown" with this unit. I still do. But I have certainly tried the KFU selections of "Install Latest TWRP Recovery" and "Install Latest FireFireFire". Even though the utility returns messages that imply it was not successful (typically "< waiting for device >"), the only thing I can figure is that it was successful at least once. Even today when I run KFU, it still behaves as though it does not recognize the unit. Also, Device Manager still does not see the Kindle Fire.
So, now I have a Kindle Fire that seems to have good TWRP Recovery and FFF (I get the white & blue Kindle Fire logo now when booting). And this is a good thing, and a major step past the infinine white and orange Kindle Fire logo boot screen.
However, since I can't apparently connect to the unit via USB, I can't put a ROM on it to install. This is where I am stuck now.
Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
Thanks again.
lob455 said:
Thanks to Thepooch. Progress has been made. I was admittedly very skeptical about the dead battery theory. This Kindle Fire had been connected to a charger for literally days if not weeks. But I grabbed my wife's 2A charger and connected it.
Okay. Here is where the weird part starts.....
After several hours on the 2A charger, I hit the power button and got a TWRP Recovery screen! I was astounded. When using KFU, I have always gotten "ADB Status: Offline" and "Boot Status: Unknown" with this unit. I still do. But I have certainly tried the KFU selections of "Install Latest TWRP Recovery" and "Install Latest FireFireFire". Even though the utility returns messages that imply it was not successful (typically "< waiting for device >"), the only thing I can figure is that it was successful at least once. Even today when I run KFU, it still behaves as though it does not recognize the unit. Also, Device Manager still does not see the Kindle Fire.
So, now I have a Kindle Fire that seems to have good TWRP Recovery and FFF (I get the white & blue Kindle Fire logo now when booting). And this is a good thing, and a major step past the infinine white and orange Kindle Fire logo boot screen.
However, since I can't apparently connect to the unit via USB, I can't put a ROM on it to install. This is where I am stuck now.
Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
Thanks again.
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First you must fix your driver. Unless it shows up in device manager as android composite adb interface. I still have question of it's proper installation since mounting sdcard is connected to a proper install.
Code:
adb push rom.zip/sdcard/
shift plus right click on kfu's tool folder select open command window here. Type
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adb devices
you should get a number string code 1234××××××××× device if it says offline then driver is not proper. If it says 1234×××××××××× device then your good.
Type adb push <---leave one space here drag and drop the file you wish to push into terminal , then one more space , /sdcard/ it takes some time depending on file size. When it's done it will show records in and records out along with the time that the push took. If successful make a backup and then wipe cache, dalvik, and system. Flash rom.zip/gapps.zip reboot system. There is a catch 22 is the recovery packaged with KFU new enough to flash newer ROMs with full s-Linux support follow the steps in my guide highlighted in my signature to at least flash rooted stock before proceeding. @sd_shadow 's Rom would be perfect for first flash.
Edit: Side note modifications need to be made to driver to keep adb working on custom ROMs as some have been added prior this helps but the device ID changes with each new build ics, kit kat and so forth.
Thepooch said:
First you must fix your driver. Unless it shows up in device manager as android composite adb interface. I still have question of it's proper installation since mounting sdcard is connected to a proper install.
Code:
adb push rom.zip/sdcard/
shift plus right click on kfu's tool folder select open command window here. Type
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adb devices
you should get a number string code 1234××××××××× device if it says offline then driver is not proper. If it says 1234×××××××××× device then your good.
Type adb push <---leave one space here drag and drop the file you wish to push into terminal , then one more space , /sdcard/ it takes some time depending on file size. When it's done it will show records in and records out along with the time that the push took. If successful make a backup and then wipe cache, dalvik, and system. Flash rom.zip/gapps.zip reboot system. There is a catch 22 is the recovery packaged with KFU new enough to flash newer ROMs with full s-Linux support follow the steps in my guide highlighted in my signature to at least flash rooted stock before proceeding. @sd_shadow 's Rom would be perfect for first flash.
Edit: Side note modifications need to be made to driver to keep adb working on custom ROMs as some have been added prior this helps but the device ID changes with each new build ics, kit kat and so forth.
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Thanks @Thepooch for the detailed reply.
I spent several hours playing with this Kindle Fire, a different Kindle Fire (stock unit that works), regular USB and factory cables, kfu, and adb. Here are my observations that may or may not be significant:
1) With the working stock Kindle Fire: this shows up in Device Manager as Android Phone > Android Composite ADB Interface. In KFU, this working Kindle Fire shows ADB Status: Online and Boot Status: Unknown. If I run the "adb devices" comand, it happily gives me a 17BExxxxxxxxxxxx response.
2) With the non-working Kindle Fire that I am working with: This does not show up in Device Manager UNLESS I am in the FFF (white & blue logo screen) with the 3 boot choices listed at the bottom of the screen (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode). If those 3 choices are shown, then Device Manager recognizes this as Android Phone > Android ADB Interface (it does not say "Composite" -- no matter how hard I try to delete that Android ADB Interface driver). This non-working Kindle Fire then disappears from Device Manager completely if in any TWRP screen or any FFF screen other than the one with the 3 boot choices at the bottom. When I run the "adb devices" command, I get a message "List of devices attached" with nothing below (no numbers or anything).
I suspect that you are correct -- that I am fighting a driver issue -- but I don't know how to get the Windows 7 computer to recognize the non-working Kindle Fire as a Android Composite ADB Interface. It happily recognizes the working Kindle Fire as Composite, so I know the driver is on the PC.
Any ideas of how to go forward are appreciated. I think that I have tried everything that I know to try on that Windows 7 PC, so at this point, my next plan is to play with this Kindle Fire using the FireKit tools and a Debian Linux PC. Maybe that will help -- or at least I will learn something.
lob455 said:
Thanks @Thepooch for the detailed reply.
I spent several hours playing with this Kindle Fire, a different Kindle Fire (stock unit that works), regular USB and factory cables, kfu, and adb. Here are my observations that may or may not be significant:
1) With the working stock Kindle Fire: this shows up in Device Manager as Android Phone > Android Composite ADB Interface. In KFU, this working Kindle Fire shows ADB Status: Online and Boot Status: Unknown. If I run the "adb devices" comand, it happily gives me a 17BExxxxxxxxxxxx response.
2) With the non-working Kindle Fire that I am working with: This does not show up in Device Manager UNLESS I am in the FFF (white & blue logo screen) with the 3 boot choices listed at the bottom of the screen (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode). If those 3 choices are shown, then Device Manager recognizes this as Android Phone > Android ADB Interface (it does not say "Composite" -- no matter how hard I try to delete that Android ADB Interface driver). This non-working Kindle Fire then disappears from Device Manager completely if in any TWRP screen or any FFF screen other than the one with the 3 boot choices at the bottom. When I run the "adb devices" command, I get a message "List of devices attached" with nothing below (no numbers or anything).
I suspect that you are correct -- that I am fighting a driver issue -- but I don't know how to get the Windows 7 computer to recognize the non-working Kindle Fire as a Android Composite ADB Interface. It happily recognizes the working Kindle Fire as Composite, so I know the driver is on the PC.
Any ideas of how to go forward are appreciated. I think that I have tried everything that I know to try on that Windows 7 PC, so at this point, my next plan is to play with this Kindle Fire using the FireKit tools and a Debian Linux PC. Maybe that will help -- or at least I will learn something.
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Android adb interface alone is a detection of fastboot composite is normal boot. This could be due to a partially broken shell try while the device is in recovery not at the bootloader your bootmode is iffy.
What is current Twrp versiom? 2.7.1.0?
If the problem is Kindle software, a could try a couple of things
adb commands should not work in bootloader mode
fastboot commands should work in bootloader mode
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fastboot devices
if that works could try flashing twrp, I would Flash a different version so you know it worked, like 2.6.x.x http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/blaze
sd_shadow said:
What is current Twrp versiom? 2.7.1.0?
If the problem is Kindle software, a could try a couple of things
adb commands should not work in bootloader mode
fastboot commands should work in bootloader mode
try
fastboot devices
if that works could try flashing twrp, I would Flash a different version so you know it worked, like 2.6.x.x ..................
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Thanks @sd_shadow for the reply.
In recovery mode, TWRP reports that it is version 2.6.3.1
I did try the "fastboot devices" command. When I am in the initial FFF screen (blue & white kindle fire logo with "Press power button for boot menu") or I am in the FFF menu with the 3 boot choices at the bottom (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode), the "fastboot devices" command returns "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot". I didn't make up that number. It reports the hexadecimal digits in order from 0 through F, followed by the word "fastboot". It is pretty apparent that this is not a valid device ID number, but it is reporting something. I just don't know what it means.
If I am in any screen other than those, the "fastboot devices" command returns nothing, and it goes back at the command prompt.
lob455 said:
Thanks @sd_shadow for the reply.
In recovery mode, TWRP reports that it is version 2.6.3.1
I did try the "fastboot devices" command. When I am in the initial FFF screen (blue & white kindle fire logo with "Press power button for boot menu") or I am in the FFF menu with the 3 boot choices at the bottom (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode), the "fastboot devices" command returns "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot". I didn't make up that number. It reports the hexadecimal digits in order from 0 through F, followed by the word "fastboot". It is pretty apparent that this is not a valid device ID number, but it is reporting something. I just don't know what it means.
If I am in any screen other than those, the "fastboot devices" command returns nothing, and it goes back at the command prompt.
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I press the power button, to show boot menu (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode) so it will pause the boot process for 2 mins or so.
the "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot" could be good, I believe that is what i usually get, and would go ahead and flash twrp.
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-otter.img (or whatever version you are trying)
or try the reboot command
fastboot reboot
When in recovery if there is no adb my first thought is driver. Two other things are possible missing or broken shell or broken recovery. I myself lean to the side of it being a driver issue. Attach your working Kindle to pc while in recovery. Type adb devices it should say 12345678 blah blah recovery. If it does not then it's your driver.
sd_shadow said:
I press the power button, to show boot menu (Normal Boot, Recovery, Reset Boot Mode) so it will pause the boot process for 2 mins or so.
the "0123456789ABCDEF fastboot" could be good, I believe that is what i usually get, and would go ahead and flash twrp.
fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-otter.img (or whatever version you are trying)
or try the reboot command
fastboot reboot
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@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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Just place a Rom on your Sdcard and flash it.
lob455 said:
@sd_shadow -- the "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-...." command worked, and TWRP now reports that it is running version 2.7.1.0 (it was 2.6.3.1). It was immensely satisfying to find a command that this Kindle seems to like. Seriously. Thank you.
My next stupid question is, can I use another fastboot command to program the ROM, or can I use some fastboot command to load the ROM on sdcard via USB and then install it with TWRP? If I can do either of those things, then I think this problem is licked.
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Try the mount option in twrp again
sd_shadow said:
Try the mount option in twrp again
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@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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The battery will always charge in recovery. When it goes flat you end in a 5 second boot loop. Try 2 things since your bootloader is equipped to hand such things as a failsafe attach to pc via USB right when it powers on long press power button till it powers off and let sit for 24 hours. The low level charge might even kick in and indicate charging on the screen if so let it sit and it will eventually boot properly on its own. Good luck
lob455 said:
@sd_shadow @Thepooch
Thanks both of you for your help. But not all stories have a happy ending.
Over the past couple of days, I have been fighting a battle with the battery. The battery charge level indicated in the main TWRP menu would decrease even when connected to the 2A charger. I found that I could temporarily add a few percent charge by disconnecting the USB cable, reconnecting to the 2A charger. However, that trick would only last for a few minutes and a few percent charge, and then the power button light would go out and discharge would start again.
I think that the battery is now pretty dead. Power button light stays off event with the charger connected. If I disconnect the USB cable and reconnect, then I can *occasionally* get the power light to go green then orange, and it will fire up into a FFF blue&white logo screen, but then it shuts off again.
At this point, I think I have to decide if I want to spend the $ for a replacement battery and then try to fight the rooting battle again. I was never able to get the PC to recognize the device in normal mode so no adb -- only fastboot would work.
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I suspect it's the usb port that is bad, not the battery. The Kindle's usb port is weak and has a high failure rate, it can be repaired but likely not worth it, unless you know how to solder connections.