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If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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We need lots of more articles like these..Will be putting the link on Twiter and Facebook...Just like CIQ

Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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They are only slightly better than Samsung.
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If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
Apart from that, they have supported it for about 19 months now through 3 major releases, instead of their promise of 18 months and a minimum of 1 major release.

So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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kingsway8605 said:
The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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See post right before yours.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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They treat you best?
How, by giving you updates that your phone can handle?
You applaud them for that, yet you think it's a bad thing when a company (Samsung) wouldn't send an update to a device that COULDN'T properly handle one?
Apple's way around the issue is to rarely update their hardware, so that it can handle any update they throw at it for 2+ years.
Samsung (and the major Android manufacturers in general) deals with it by continuously pushing the envelope by releasing cutting-edge hardware, and then updating software to the devices that can handle it.
Which would you rather have? 2 year old hardware, and last year's updates, or tomorrow's hardware and tomorrow's updates?
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So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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See post right before yours.
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I did:
You're getting dumber and dumber as this goes on.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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Whatever tips your balance off course, for many it would be because of other things but at least this is honest reasoning.
Shouting that Samsung lied to costumers and mistreats them is just stupid and shows no understanding of market mechanisms, but displays tunnelvision instead.
I understand it sucks, having had an Omnia2 before my Galaxy S2, but it was known beforehand that the updatecycle would stop somewhere at the end of 2011, as it is to end at Q3/Q4-2012 for the Galaxy S2. By that time the same discussion will start, this time about the Galaxy Nexus, with the same stupid arguments, petitions and tears.

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Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count).
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This is the crux of the whole thing:
I would never, in my worst "phone-geek" nightmare, dream of owning the same device for 3 years, I don't care which phone it was.
That's an eternity in terms of technological advances, and if that's what you're looking for: a phone that'll still be updated (software-wise) for 3 years, then an iphone is EXACTLY what you need.
I'd rather have a hole in my head than to be stuck with ANY phone for that long.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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If Samsung didn't honestly care for it's customers people would have never gotten an update at all.
It's entertaining that you're white knighting yourself with the supposed honor of refusing to buy Sansung devices because of them no longer supporting year-old hardware.
Things move fast, the employees that make the updates at Samsung don't have any obligation to continue to work on old hardware.
The Evo Shift isn't getting ICS and it released after the Galaxy S line. Is HTC suddenly not carrying for its customers?
Why, exactly do you care?
Your device WILL get ICS and the chances are you are rooted and even if it didn't [get ICS] some developer(s) is/are working on it.
Hell, I'm sure that rooted Galaxy S users will get it.
Enjoy getting gimped updates with features cut out once your apple device is no longer the top-of-their-line.
There is absolutely no reason for people with a device that old to expect ICS via their manufacturer.
You're basically saying that Samsung should update phones that it shouldn't really be on to it, providing a lackluster User experience.
The users would get all sorts of issues with it and no amount of features would change the fact that some of the issues would push that customer away from that manufacturer.
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So sorry that Android's updates are taking much bigger steps than IOS' updates.

I believe the thing that the OP doesn't take into account is that even apple phones usually become to slow for the latest and greatest iOS version after 18 months to 2 years. In which case, you are back at square one if you had bought any number of android phones.
Regardless, 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
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I just found out that my Commodore 64 does not support running Windows 7....
Damn it, I am pissed! Screw corporate america! Where's my tent, I'm going to "occupy" their headquarters!!

Galaxy s3

Do you still want the galaxy sg3 ????
http://freeyourandroid.com/viewnews.php?fya=65568051326121985
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It's been posted before. Sorry mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446328
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Zoidpilot said:
It's been posted before. Sorry mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446328
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Yep....and I seriously f****ng doubt Samsung would ditch Android for that crap OS.

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Yep....and I seriously f****ng doubt Samsung would ditch Android for that crap OS.
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Damn so much for are convo yesterday on upgrade plans lol

I kind of have a feeling that this article/news/etc is meant to imply they're ditching touchwiz for tizen... because if you look closely, it looks like a skinned Android

I don't think Samsung could be stupid enough to get rid of Android.I think they may merge bada and tizen and replace bada OS with it...Samsung would have to be as stupid as coke to do it ...remember new coke
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Epix4G said:
I don't think Samsung could be stupid enough to get rid of Android.I think they may merge bada and tizen and replace bada OS with it...Samsung would have to be as stupid as coke to do it ...remember new coke
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If you searched more you would see that is exactly what the idea was in the first place...to merge bada and tizen. However, recent reports say it still isn't a sure thing.
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I kind of have a feeling that this article/news/etc is meant to imply they're ditching touchwiz for tizen... because if you look closely, it looks like a skinned Android
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Nope. The article clearly states it will be supposedly tizen powered and not some UI like touchwiz. The person who wrote that article is reporting information like Fox News does.
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Damn so much for are convo yesterday on upgrade plans lol
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Lol...
10char

Yea....can't groove with that GUI

I wouldn't switch over from Android and it would be hard to make the switch even if something better came out.
Mostly it's because of apps. I think Apps should go the way of blu-ray. If you buy the blu-ray, you get the DVD and the Digital Download as well.
Fact is I was one of the owners of the Palm Pre... I also own an iPod Touch.
There are certain apps that I paid for on my iPod, my Palm Pre, and now on my Android. I wouldn't switch platforms a this point just because of the sheer investment I have made in Apps for the Android.... It's a shame.
Same way I thought the Zune was great, but I already had such an investment with my Bose Sound Dock and all sorts of other iPod only connections and cables that I just stayed with Apple.

I can totally see this happening. This is the kind of crap I would expect them to do.
Please god give the nexus on sprint soon. This is Samsung at its best.
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I happened to love the Palm Pre at the time. The hardware was horrible but the software was great.
I also have a big investment in apps now Andriod. If they go their own way with an OS hopefully they will make it able to accept Android apps. It would be a smart move.
Personally I think it is a little late in the smartphone game to bring in a new OS with no app library. App developers will be reluctant to make apps for a new OS.
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I think Samsung might use Tizen for some of their devices but as this OS is far from perfect I think Samsung won't switch Galaxy S3 to it. Instead they could test it on lower level devices and maybe if the system is ready they could pre-install it on next years Galaxy flagship device.
For me this sounds more like marketing campaign for Tizen or just stupid guess
Found more information about release date: http://samsunggalaxys3review.net/samsung-galaxy-s3-release-date/

If Samsung drops Android on Galaxy S3 then I would choose another phone that does have Android.
Basically Motorola or HTC would step up and produce a nice Android phone that others would go to. The whole reason why Samsung Galaxy S II did well was mainly because of good hardware, a version for every carrier, and Android.

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Personally I think it is a little late in the smartphone game to bring in a new OS with no app library.
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I know it feels like that...but it's not. It's still early into the smartphone game....very very early. Compared to the 35 years of the "PC Game" a lot of things can happen between now and then....even though I don't they will you can't rule that possibility out, lol.

I think they are going to release it with android. Samsung is the #1 android manufacturer in the world and why would a company which only purpose is to make money change up their extremely successful formula. Why would they risk billions of dollars to introduce a new OS into the U.S.? If it ain't broke don't fix it.

If they think they can make a play to be their own ecosystem, why wouldn't they?
Sticking with android means being a commodity hardware player, selling phones at low margins while google gets 30% of app revenue from market.
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But don't you think they might try that out on less prominent phones first. Kind of test the waters and see if it will work. I just don't see them dumping a new operating system on their flagship phone. The one that put them on the map in the cell phone markets. It seems like jumping off a cliff and hoping you have wings.
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And the bottom line for me is I will eventually want a GS3 with android so I'm gonna think happy thoughts.

rukiri said:
If they think they can make a play to be their own ecosystem, why wouldn't they?
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Exactly, the worst that can happen is that their idea fails, they go back to the drawing board & either improve on it or fall back to what was previously working (Android), though I highly doubt they'll abandon Android all together.
Only time will tell. Honestly I'd like to see what it's all about. If the os is highly customizable, functional & not too restrictive, then good, it may turn out to be a winner.

Samsung did get offered incentives from the south Korean government to work on an in house os. I read an article from Engadget months ago explaining how the south Koreans feel with android they depend on the west too much. With androids guess manufacturers are trying to find ways to distinguish their products from the rest.
I personally feel it would be a mistake to move from the android ecosystem once android starts to really mature. But, once again from Engadget, I read an interview of a top exec from Samsung saying that the tizen chose is not definite.

Apple is perfect position.

OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy or any fanboy for that matter I love tech and gadgets. Second it is a sad day for many people like me because I am tied to sprint for life probably mainly because of price and unlimited data. (That's not the sad part). So with that said I am tied to their phones and right now with the current phones and android it is a sad cluster f$%#. ICS is great just on its own but Sammy and HTC don't care. Updates come like whenever, maybe 8 months later to a year maybe never.
All future phones on sprint are a letdown at this point sg3, evo one, galaxy nexus is great but no lte. Android is just a hot mess I don't even know the point of pure Google of only 1 percent actually have it.
Apple is in perfect position because if the iPhone 5 is bigger and beautiful and powerful its a wrap. Once lte is up I can't find any reason to stay with Android or anything other. Google paved the way for apple to crush them because they have no standards. I have used android pretty intensely and its just all over the place. A bigger retina better battery iPhone will be a killer. And who knows what IOS 6 will be.
I know many of you will flame but if you can't understand at least one point then you are blind. I'm not bashing Android I love ics and wish I had it running perfect on my phone.
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Dude I typed it on my phone maybe its not your first language.
Stop being such a fanboy.
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Fataldesain said:
OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy or any fanboy for that matter I love tech and gadgets. Second it is a sad day for many people like me because I am tied to sprint for life probably mainly because of price and unlimited data. (That's not the sad part). So with that said I am tied to their phones and right now with the current phones and android it is a sad cluster f$%#. ICS is great just on its own but Sammy and HTC don't care. Updates come like whenever, maybe 8 months later to a year maybe never.
All future phones on sprint are a letdown at this point sg3, evo one, galaxy nexus is great but no lte. Android is just a hot mess I don't even know the point of pure Google of only 1 percent actually have it.
Apple is in perfect position because if the iPhone 5 is bigger and beautiful and powerful its a wrap. Once lte is up I can't find any reason to stay with Android or anything other. Google paved the way for apple to crush them because they have no standards. I have used android pretty intensely and its just all over the place. A bigger retina better battery iPhone will be a killer. And who knows what IOS 6 will be.
I know many of you will flame but if you can't understand at least one point then you are blind. I'm not bashing Android I love ics and wish I had it running perfect on my phone.
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if you are running behind an the newest os by android then your an ass .all i care about is if the phone does what i want when i want it to! as for lte buy a laptop if you need to be online that much and you want it fast. dont get sucked in by lte craze,tes its fast btut if you spend that much time on your phones internet YOU NEED A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!

Fataldesain said:
Dude I typed it on my phone maybe its not your first language.
Stop being such a fanboy.
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although i just skimmed over it, your typing and language look fine to me. i dont know what that other dude is talking about.

How bout we have at least one thread that doesn't resort to arguing and name calling? Arguing is going to happen, I understand that, but try doing it in an adult manner.
If not, I can shut this one down also.
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I don't quite see how android is a mess? Just because Samsung has touchwiz and HTC has Sense? You do realize that both companies do provide updates to their phones right? Yes, I realize the move from Froyo -> Gingerbread -> ICS isn't fast...but that's copmarable to IOS 3 -> 4 -> 5 (which is also about once a year). The minor updates in betweens are generally fixes for things, and a lot have been purely to patch exploits by jailbreakers which further locks the phone down. Officially our phones have recieved 2 updates, and we're waiting on the official 3rd to move to ICS.
The new iPhone will be a hit...because it is an iPhone, simple as that. The bigger size will attract some more people, but seeing how the 4S was a lackluster upgrade and it was Apple's top selling phone, crushing any android phone's sale. This next one will do the same. Personally, and I'm guessing for many on XDA who enjoy modding the crap out of their phones, iPhones aren't really an option...especially the way it is now making jailbreak exploits even harder to come by.

Lets all have a drink
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Damn, people are upset since the specs were released! Part that caught my eye is "no LTE." I thought the GNex was the first phone that had it?

I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."

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I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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phatmanxxl said:
I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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Lol'd.

You don't see how android is a mess. First what is android to most people you will get a 100 different answers.
Ics has on screen buttons really not on Sammy and HTC phones.
How many versions of Android are there running now on phones.
Somebody makes a game or app works/tested on some phones not working for many but you can still buy it even though it doesn't work.
I could go on
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I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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Well because if speak any truth that's anti android we all know how that ends up. I guess some of you are happy about the eco one and sg3 I thought they were both a letdown
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Fataldesain said:
Well because if speak any truth that's anti android we all know how that ends up. I guess some of you are happy about the eco one and sg3 I thought they were both a letdown
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I think you're passing judgement on them before giving them a try. Their specs have been released, but you haven't held onto them yet. I don't think the next iPhone will be a mind blower either, it'll probably be similar to the specifications of the EVO LTE or SGSIII.
The SGS2 is definitely my kind of phone, the only thing I'll need is LTE when it comes to my area. We'll see how it goes.

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I could go on
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Please dont

Fataldesain said:
You don't see how android is a mess. First what is android to most people you will get a 100 different answers.
Ics has on screen buttons really not on Sammy and HTC phones.
How many versions of Android are there running now on phones.
Somebody makes a game or app works/tested on some phones not working for many but you can still buy it even though it doesn't work.
I could go on
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my car uses gas but i can still buy diesel........people have pc's and buy games that they cant play on it because of hardware issues, just like phones, its YOUR responsibility to do a little research on if something can/will/properly run on your device.

I'm going to go ahead and shut this one down. Seems like a troll thread to me.
There is a place in the android general section that would better suit this discussion.
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Samsung Software NO Android?

Source: http://m.intomobile.com/2012/06/18/samsungs-new-ceo-talks-develping-its-own-mobile-software/
Samsung developing its own Sortware and leaving Android success behind? Although I doubt it and this article is probably about TW refresh but the idea of Samsung software will personally keep me away. To me Samsung is a sexy hardware but it's own implementation of TW etc drives me nuts. Say Samsung does abandon Android, I personally will say Goodbye, how about you? Imagine sexy software but no Android... Will you stick with Samsung?
Samsung must be mistaken to have me follow their TW or anything even better.

They've tried this multiple times most recently with Bada...for Samsung Android is just a way to gain money while behind scenes they create a better one or thats what they think
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From what I read about the interview the high end phones will still be android and they were improving on tw read the engadget article about this and then click the source
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I agree, Samsung makes one sexy piece of hardware. However, I too will part ways if they decide to leave Android for their own OS.
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w.e I'm not a fan boy of a manufacturer. I'll just jump to HTC or moto or lg
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w.e I'm not a fan boy of a manufacturer. I'll just jump to HTC or moto or lg
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All except moto...I don't find their phones attractive

A lot of manufacturers seem to have "Apple Envy". They see what Apple did with the iPhone and think they can re-produce it. It takes someone really good at stealing stuff and reselling it as your own to be Apple. I don't think many other companies could do it.
Or, you could go the Microsoft route and just license the hell out of everything.

Samsung is a beast.....everything in my house is Samsung ... If they wanna leave Android and do their own thing...I say go for it, they been setting back watching how Android been doin things and taking things over..now its time for Samsung to bring out the guns and strike...They have been planning this for a while...it was just a matter of time
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Samsung is a beast.....everything in my house is Samsung ... If they wanna leave Android and do their own thing...I say go for it, they been setting back watching how Android been doin things and taking things over..now its time for Samsung to bring out the guns and strike...They have been planning this for a while...it was just a matter of time
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My personal experience with Samsung = LoS, ICS almost 1 year later and still no go. TW, well I'm sure someone loves it, just not me.
Say Samsung does go off route, I think Sharp will come out striking lol. And the app market, lets start the count from 1+ lol

Samsung without Android... Hell NO!

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My personal experience with Samsung = LoS, ICS almost 1 year later and still no go. TW, well I'm sure someone loves it, just not me.
Say Samsung does go off route, I think Sharp will come out striking lol. And the app market, lets start the count from 1+ lol
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I'm not a fan of TW either but its easy to get rid of...some UI out that isn't that easy and will still run in the background if you like it or not.....Samsung pushes the button of technology.....smart TV (hello Samsung), blue led fridge, the do everything washer/dryer....lol...I know the need to work on the software portion....but I not gonna drop them cuz they wanna do it all themselves...I'm sure you can root it and someone will figure out to put the market back on and stuff just like they did with the Kindle Fire...let em try, you never know they could surprise you
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if they do i hope they will still make android phones. i personally like the match with samsung and android. makes me even more of a fan boy i suppose, but i guess im just a android guy, i just think samsung is the only competitor big enough for apple. plus i love the fact that when i pull out my samsung phone around apple people they start bashing me, then i let them know a little info, they shut up real quick. but i hope they dont move all phones over to whatever theyre gonna call this os.

If it will be better than Android, why not?
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no android no samsung
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Look at what's happened in the past 6 months alone:
1) Google closed on Motorola Mobility (right here in my backyard) - meaning Motorola is out of the mobile biz if I understand correctly. To do it Google had to promise to keep Android open for 5 more years... and I doubt it will be much longer than that for newer versions.
2) Microsoft is launching their own tablet - a big shift in things because they're adopting the idea that controlling the hw and sw sides will end up with a better product - and in general is right (so long as the dev support is there)
So if this is the model being taken - give a generic version (at a fee) for manufacturers who want it but keep the best completely in house - then Samsung has 5 years to really work on that before they'd have to even think about departing from Android on any devices. My guess is this would be on low end devices first to potentially avoid licensing fees for Android in the future - but time will tell.
But hey, this is all speculation and a lot changes every year - I'll just wait and see for now.

i hope android never goes close and restricted
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Whole new OS?
Of course we'd all ditch it.
If it's not open-source.
Unless they can unveil it with some sort of 'cant-live-without' features package.
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I don't see another OS getting huge developer support.
I'm sure the Galaxy name will help them sell but once consumers learn it doesn't have all the same apps it will flop.

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Look at what's happened in the past 6 months alone:
1) Google closed on Motorola Mobility (right here in my backyard) - meaning Motorola is out of the mobile biz if I understand correctly. To do it Google had to promise to keep Android open for 5 more years... and I doubt it will be much longer than that for newer versions.
2) Microsoft is launching their own tablet - a big shift in things because they're adopting the idea that controlling the hw and sw sides will end up with a better product - and in general is right (so long as the dev support is there)
So if this is the model being taken - give a generic version (at a fee) for manufacturers who want it but keep the best completely in house - then Samsung has 5 years to really work on that before they'd have to even think about departing from Android on any devices. My guess is this would be on low end devices first to potentially avoid licensing fees for Android in the future - but time will tell.
But hey, this is all speculation and a lot changes every year - I'll just wait and see for now.
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Sweet. Now my Friend can shut up about how his moto X2 is better then my Epic touch. Even stock, we all know who's is better.
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Wait for new nexus or get SIII now?

My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.

Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved

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Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved
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wat.

cnstarz said:
wat.
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Im selling my Sprint SGS3. I was saying he could buy it and keep his upgrade intact in case A) He wants to cancel or B) Something better eventually comes along.

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My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.
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I wanted to hold out for the next Nexus, but after seeing the S3 and its specs I couldn't wait any longer. Granted, I was sick of the horrid camera on my EVO 3D, but I still feel like whatever the Nexus has for specs will be pretty comparable to the S3. If you have more willpower than I do, it might be worth waiting. If you can't wait, the S3 is fantastic. (Ignore my posts about battery life - I'm pretty sure I'm at fault and I haven't figured out why. )

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My contract is up and my upgrade is now in full effect. I currently have the nexus s 4G and the nexus tablet so needless to say i am a fan of the nexus line. That being said my contract is up and i am really looking at getting the SIII. Wanted to get feedback from this forum on whether or not they still love their phone after being out for several months yet or do you think it is worth waiting (for who nows how long, probably end of this year) for google to release the new nexus phone? what do you like about the SIII, what do you not like? Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance.
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I was forced to use my upgrade when the sIII was out but I wish I had the next nexus
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Buy mine for a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade and keep your upgrade for the next Nexus when you call sell off the S3. Problem solved
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It looks like you're selling yours for $450 though... How is that "a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade"?

Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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It looks like you're selling yours for $450 though... How is that "a little more than you could get it for with your upgrade"?
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Its way cheaper than walking in and buying it off contract.
Not to mention Im throwing in an SD card and it has an Invisible Shield HD on it. You couldnt walk out of Best Buy much under $300 after you add in tax. Hell, Ill pay the shipping at $450.00.

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Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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So you think Samsung will stop making mobile phones because of this? Good Lord, I hope you're wrong, that seems a bit much.
But to the OP, if you wait it out, your next question will be "get nexus now or wait for SGS IV" assuming what KB said isn't true of course.

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Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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right.... so the number 1 selling cellphone company in the world is going to stop because of Apple.. The only thing I see coming from this is Samsung will stop help making the Iphone 6 when it comes out next year (Not the Iphone 5 coming in a few weeks).. Which I think has already been confirmed..

If you're willing to wait till the next years IO ( or possibly Q3/4 2013) then sure.
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Depends on whether you want a Motorola nexus or not. After the lawsuit Samsung lost, they may not be making another mobile device.
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You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.

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You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.
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Ummm dude do you know who KBizzle is??? Do you know what he has done?!?
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QWIKSTRIKE said:
You are are about as clueless as your name sounds...wake up get informed before making stupid remarks like this. The only issue that Samsung as is with a few infringements on things like snap back pinch to zoom, but all other issues were in regards to the 1st Galaxy S and trade dress, and out right copy infringement. People like you should never speak before getting your facts straight.
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Calm down man. I guess I should have put some smileys. My comment was purely sarcastic in the sense of being disgusted in the outcome of the lawsuit. Opinion is opinion, not fact. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to this but as I read somewhere, it wouldn't hurt Samsung to stop making cell devices as their profits can come from their many other products.
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I was going to wait, but jumped at the S3. I'm happy with my decision.
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the S III is a good phone. matter of fact it's a really, really good phone but nothing gets the development that a nexus gets. chances are the new nexus will have specs equal to or slightly better than the S III. you could have the best of both worlds by waiting.

Wait. Although this phone is still new to date there isn't much AOSP development. With out that this phone is nice but.... TouchWiz other than bells and whistles makes this phone, slow. I have had cm10 and aokp on this device and it's a totally different animal. I guess I understand why people like TouchWiz but it really takes away from this phones true potential. Just really depends on whether you want a phone based on performance or one based on glitz and glam. I would not be surprised to see a quad core in the next nexus with the 4G lte chips becoming available. Something else to consider.
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Wait. Although this phone is still new to date there isn't much AOSP development. With out that this phone is nice but.... TouchWiz other than bells and whistles makes this phone, slow. I have had cm10 and aokp on this device and it's a totally different animal. I guess I understand why people like TouchWiz but it really takes away from this phones true potential. Just really depends on whether you want a phone based on performance or one based on glitz and glam. I would not be surprised to see a quad core in the next nexus with the 4G lte chips becoming available. Something else to consider.
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The nice thing about TW phones is you have the choice...you can always put AOSP on here, but you couldn't go vice versa on a Nexus phone. If you despise TW that much, then you wouldn't want it anyway, but there's no question the Galaxy series phones ALWAYS have the best hardware when made. You can always change software, but you can't really change the hardware.
The biggest question in my mind is will the next Nexus have the new A15 processor. If it does, it'll be a mighty big upgrade. If not, it won't be that impressive from a hardware standpoint, maybe up to par with what the SIII already has, but six months later.
New processor tech like this only comes out maybe once every three or so years I believe. If the Nexus has a dual A15, it'll smoke anything else out without a shadow of a doubt. Then I think some people, myself included, would be a little bummed about getting the SIII when we did. Heck, I had my upgrade for a year and a half before I finally got the SIII, and I'm glad I did. This phone is freaking awesome, but my only disappointment was it didn't come with the A15.
The other thing is will they release a new Nexus without a new OS? I don't think they can possibly release another OS this fall. I think like 60 some percent of phones are still running Gingerbread which would mean those phones are running three version old software. Not exactly an ideal situation for Google in my opinion.

hayzooos said:
The nice thing about TW phones is you have the choice...you can always put AOSP on here, but you couldn't go vice versa on a Nexus phone. If you despise TW that much, then you wouldn't want it anyway, but there's no question the Galaxy series phones ALWAYS have the best hardware when made. You can always change software, but you can't really change the hardware.
The biggest question in my mind is will the next Nexus have the new A15 processor. If it does, it'll be a mighty big upgrade. If not, it won't be that impressive from a hardware standpoint, maybe up to par with what the SIII already has, but six months later.
New processor tech like this only comes out maybe once every three or so years I believe. If the Nexus has a dual A15, it'll smoke anything else out without a shadow of a doubt. Then I think some people, myself included, would be a little bummed about getting the SIII when we did. Heck, I had my upgrade for a year and a half before I finally got the SIII, and I'm glad I did. This phone is freaking awesome, but my only disappointment was it didn't come with the A15.
The other thing is will they release a new Nexus without a new OS? I don't think they can possibly release another OS this fall. I think like 60 some percent of phones are still running Gingerbread which would mean those phones are running three version old software. Not exactly an ideal situation for Google in my opinion.
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Remember there's hundreds of android products around the world from high end to low end. These things simply just take time. Remember when froyo was the majority and gingerbread was the minority? Well look it now. And also alot of older phones just dont have the right processing power/hardware to run ics properly