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Ok, there is something that I want to say.
I know I'm not making myself popular with this post, but I wasn't very happy lately with the comments or the reaction from some fellow Xda-Dev members lately...
This should be a community, where we learn and help each other.
Where we can share knowledge and cool roms (like Toms...) or apps (like Tene's...) etc...
But lately I feel like there are less real Xda-Dev members which appreciate the work and effort, those wizards out there make for us.
Only peoply always complaining about "the need of BETTER beta-testers", is it because these people couldn't test it before a release and are jalous??? Or people complaining about some bugs, and keep asking 100000... times about why there is this bug, how to fix it, or why don't you fix it?? etc... well, let me tell you a BUGFREE rom most likely wouldn't excist... and if you can do it better, why don't you put your TIME and EFFORT in it and make a fix for it... or better make a Rom and share it with us... let's see if you can make a bugfree cool rom??!!
Or people asking 100000... times when will there be a German version of this rom or a Dutch rom or etc... Or why put these apps in a specific rom? etc...
I'm just wondering, do all these people always send 100000... mails to HTC or Microsoft to ask them, why a specific app is in a rom? Why there are these bugs, why this, why that???
I'm just saying why don't we all just show some respect and appreciation to those wizards. To those whom sacrafise a lot of time and work into a project and share it to us for free. Off course I understand, the feedback we all give to these wizards will maybe help them to create a better version or help them make a fix for a bug. But there is some difference between giving feedback and just being a child and complaining ...
I opened this thread, because I feel sorry for Tom (and other wizards)... if you see the post on threads from his roms... more than half is just crap... is just people asking the same thing over and over again... I'm not sure about Tom, but I know I would get it on my nerves when I made something for a community and this would be the reaction... I would ask myself, if it's still worth it to invest so much time into something for all those people...
I used to looking forward to be able to logon on XDA Dev... but lately, I notice that even I got the time for it, I just don't feel like to logon... cause most likely I will missed a page or 2 or 3... but I'm sure I wouldn't miss any potential information...
This post is dedicated to all those Wizards out there... and I'm sorry... I'm sorry there are a lot off people just don't know how to show some respect to you... I hope I still can learn from you, and to use the cool apps and roms from you...
But I must admit, even I'm doubting, will I still comming back to this forum... or should I just leave it???
Just my 2 cents...
100 % agree with you....
Cheers!
you are talking right out of my heart.
i personally tend to ignore all those "but it has a bug!!11!!1" or "i donated few euros now i WANT that feature and i want it NOW" folks. but you are right: it starts to kill the core of the community.
lets all be unpopular together......
...I agree with everything you say cg...pointing out a problem and making the dev aware is one thing - complaining is another completely.
The amount of posts on this website pushing Tom Codon to release his 4.1 rom was stupid...when its ready its ready. If you don't want to wait - install a factory rom and stop whining.
I also have no problem (we've all done it) in asking a question because you can't find an answer...the main point being "if you can't find an answer" - a lot of people tend not to search and fill the forums with duplicate posts.
So...in conclusion....i may not be a regular poster, but I really enjoy reading almost every post on this site - but when you we are in a position when a poster such as coolgadget is thinking of leaving - we need to pay attention...
imagine what would happen in Tom decided to leave - or any of the other cookers - maybe thats what some of the people on here need before they realise what these guys do.
Rant over
I think your post will make you very popular and make you many friend.
I am on your side - only someone with your reputation is able to say that!!
Thank you my friend.
We all have to organize and discipline us in order to get a forum with easy readable informations which helps the community.
Not only consuming and defining requirements is here the right way!!!
Nobody does this in relation to HTC or Microsoft - and Tom and all the other devs work very hard (somtetimes day and night) - they should have the change to concentrate on cooking good roms - not discussing the same problems again and again.
Bottlm Line!
That my Friend is the bottom Line.
I always come on here with intentions of helping out anyone I can. I have been testing with Cool Gadget for a while; he and I have the same feelings here. I am literally drained when it comes to trying to read through the release posts.
I lose my confidence in this community when I read some of the statements, complaints and out right rude comments left by some users.
I appreciate every ones interest, and inpatients for the next release, I don’t condone it at all, but I do get it. You can be anyone you want to be on the internet, some choose to be who they really are, while some cant help but to be that person...
In short, Cool has this right on, I would repost it and change the name just to be the first to say it.
Please people, show a little respect and integrity, it really goes a long way
Thanks Coolgadget for posting this.
Even the original rom of HTC has bug's
Can we make this post sticky?
Ps. it's my 100 post
RE: Coolgadget
True, but might some people say this and that cus they would like to help work of the creator, and not cus they want to blame his work. Have you ever thought about that? And maybe these forums are for not only but for this reason as well, to let the developers help each other, let the users help each other, let the developers help the users and MAYBE vica verse.
Maybe I am wrong.
Regards,
Miklos
biou said:
I think your post will make you very popular and make you many friend.
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i also agree, it's not really fine to search in a thread with about 100pages and the most asked question is really "when do you make german rom", "and found this bug", etc it's really true. It's not comfortable to find real interestening threads. And such statements are totally useless for everybody. I like your point of view!
moderators can edit complains & ****ty comment away.
i was a moderator for a long time on a board, we made some rules.
There rules where simple, follow them or get a warning, still not listening, they got banned.
the normal respected members will always follow the rules.
the ones that are *****ing, making lame & dumb comments will eventually make place for the people that DO want to contribute in a healthy way
look at some of the new members their lame posts....
they are just joining to complain, say this is bad, this isn't good... bladiebladiebla...not good for the health of a community imo
serious, they need to give all the guys that are working on things like this in their spare time some credit.
Complaining & whining..... for stuff that is free....what a bunch of assholes
Good post man
I agree, but I guess its not easy for all newcomers (me included) to fully understand how much work is beeing put into cooking roms, hacking progz to make them better, and so on.
Havent we all been a nOOb? lol, im still one, but I feel like im climbing upwards to a higher plain of existence ( ) the more I read on this forums.
I didnt fully understand (do I yet?) before starting to cook for myself, even though I am provided by tools like the HyperCore kitchen by anichillus, I can see that its still damn much to learn, and that it takes alot of time. Cant even imagine how much hours the pros in here has used, and for free. Amazing..
Maybe we should start a "Guide how to..." section on frontpage, making a part called TouchFlo, one called dialer, one called commManager and so on.
Posting sollutions found in.ex on how to install the touch dialer on a fresh official rom and so on.
And why not let that be readable for everyone, but posting restricted to senior members?
There it could be posted answers for all the common questions ppl would have.
If that could be done, im sure the sections would be easier to scroll through, not having to read 100000 posts asking whythisandwhythathowtopleasethx.....
I dont think the forums will ever get rid of the newcomers asking alot of questions, over and over again. Like me Sending PMs to the wizards, asking questions (that im stupid enough to belive that 1000 others have not asked them about before) about how to....and so on
cheers masters
And Coolgadget, dont leave, we need you here.
itje said:
Good post man
I agree, but I guess its not easy for all newcomers (me included) to fully understand how much work is beeing put into cooking roms, hacking progz to make them better, and so on.
Havent we all been a nOOb? lol, im still one, but I feel like im climbing upwards to a higher plain of existence ( ) the more I read on this forums.
I didnt fully understand (do I yet?) before starting to cook for myself, even though I am provided by tools like the HyperCore kitchen by anichillus, I can see that its still damn much to learn, and that it takes alot of time. Cant even imagine how much hours the pros in here has used, and for free. Amazing..
Maybe we should start a "Guide how to..." section on frontpage, making a part called TouchFlo, one called dialer, one called commManager and so on.
Posting sollutions found in.ex on how to install the touch dialer on a fresh official rom and so on.
And why not let that be readable for everyone, but posting restricted to senior members?
There it could be posted answers for all the common questions ppl would have.
If that could be done, im sure the sections would be easier to scroll through, not having to read 100000 posts asking whythisandwhythathowtopleasethx.....
I dont think the forums will ever get rid of the newcomers asking alot of questions, over and over again. Like me Sending PMs to the wizards, asking questions (that im stupid enough to belive that 1000 others have not asked them about before) about how to....and so on
cheers masters
And Coolgadget, dont leave, we need you here.
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Yes i can follow you but there is a difference between the guys trying to initiate active (proactive) communication and that one which are only consuming!
coolgadget and chandlercjh
I'm in total agreement with you both in all your comments above. If people would only show some patience here especially with Tom and the work he is doing at this great forum... its would be a very sad day if he or any of the other senior members decided to leave. I don't make many posts on here but I am a regular reader and absolutely love the site. I just hope that more people show respect and an ability to use the search function... and i dread the nonsense we will have to read when we near v4.2 of Tom's great ROM.
Agreed fully
Hello Friend;
I completely agree with you.Its not fair that people who make ROM's and other apps are always crucified or pressured.Many time the same questiona are answered previously.But no one wants to read it,it seems.But another thing to be high lighted is that many people can't speak English well.This some time lead to messages which seems arrogant.But I have to agree the message u posted(I saw it before in forum) is the result of a gigantic ego and big mouth.He doesn't even pay anything for the ROM(forgetting a few bucks of Donations) and daring to complain like this.As u say such people can make their own ROM's and make it perfect and don't stop complaining.
And please remember that there are much more people here who are your fans and looks up to you.So please don't be bothered and continue your good work.
Regards and have a nice day.
My alplogies for my following comment as I am quite new here in the forum as well.
I completely agree with these statements here. It looks very childish (to put it in polite words) what many of the members write in their posts when they cry for tthe ROM in another language (you didn't learn english in school??).
Tom is doing a great job and he is ALWAYS polite. Try to behave in the same way!!!
For the beta-tester critics, I just like to mention that the SW from very big companies is also far away from being bug-less.
To mention I sent 10 bucks please provide me with this or that is ***
Come on, go in a restaurant and buy a coffe. What do you get for this money.
My impression is, Tom is doing this because he likes to do it, to share it and to contribute to a comunity. I call this respect. So, show him your respect as well.
Donate to show your respect to him and not because you want something.
my 2 cents in R-E-S-P-E-C-T,
g-fall
Try to imagine XDA WITHOUT Tom
Hi there,
What my dear personal friend Coolgadget apparently forgot to mention is that in a recent conversation we had with Tom -after having read some REALLY NASTY & RUDE posts- we urged him to leave and start using his valuable time to do better things rather than "attempting" to please the varied XDA crowd.
We also tried to persuade him to charge a minimum fee for each download.
In a recent post (some of you might even remember that) I have publicly suggested Tom to go to the beach instead of "wasting" his time following useless remarks of some outstandingly tactless XDA forum members.
All this TO NO AVAIL... Tom is a big-hearted and professional young man who LOVES EVERYBODY, kind and mean alike, generous and stingy alike!
Tom insisted and decided to continue HELPING EVERYONE 4 FREE... Isn't that magnificent?!?
Coolgadget (just like myself) gained among certain "noble" XDA groups a fair degree of unpopularity because of his straightforward writing style, because his posts are always right to the point and MOSTLY because he knows what kind of pain Tom has to "digest" when some people POST FASTER THAN THEY CAN THINK.
Please remember that this forum will never be the same if people like Tom or Coolgadget will decide to leave!!!
In the "Donations to Tom Codon" thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1471616&posted=1#post1471616) I have just posted how important nice and encouraging words are to Tom... I would almost dare to define them just as valuable as generous financial donations.
I thank you all once more for the understanding and support shown so far (and OBVIOULSY for the one you will keep on showing ) and I wish you a great day.
SiperX
I completely agree with the comments made in this post and I apologise for not having any input myself. Tom does indeed make some great roms that make the XDA Orbit/P3300, or whatever you want to call it, a far more useable piece of technology. I am surprised that the likes of O2, T-Mobile or HTC haven't jumped at the chance to showcase how enthusiasts are developing and pushing the boundaries with their technology.
I do think that one of the problems is language and that some people, whose first language is not English, may come across as quite rude when they perhaps don't mean to. This does not excuse peoples inability to use the search function or the ones that are blatantly rude and I would suggest that the mods here clamp down and ruthlessly delete both the rude posts and those that ask the same questions time and time again. Perhaps a sticky in the most common languages on how to use the search function might go some way to highlighting the problem and how it is ruining the forum.
I am not saying that there are not faults with the roms and that Tom does not require feedback; all I am saying is that those that can not offer useful input, who are rude or constantly demand things are not actively allowed to ruin threads.
My life with the Orbit would be far less interesting without Tom's work.
Many thanks and I will donating come payday.
What my dear personal friend Coolgadget apparently forgot to mention is that in a recent conversation we had with Tom -after having read some REALLY NASTY & RUDE posts- we urged him to leave and start using his valuable time to do better things rather than "attempting" to please the varied XDA crowd.We also tried to persuade him to charge a minimum fee for each download.
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hi SiperX and Coolgadget I can only request you to ignore those NASTY & RUDE comments as there are always some ants in heaven.Either we can put negative points for such whiners after a level they will be banned or just ignore it.I kindly request you not to be affected by these remarks by some IDIOTS who think they can have their way.
Coolgadget (just like myself) gained among certain "noble" XDA groups a fair degree of unpopularity because of his straightforward writing style, because his posts are always right to the point and MOSTLY because he knows what kind of pain Tom has to "digest" when some people POST FASTER THAN THEY CAN THINK.
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For this I consider you and others who male this forum a big contribution.But please remember there are many who admire you too.I admire Tom and his works.Not just him the forum itself and many volunteers who make apps in their free time and distribute it freely.
Please remember that this forum will never be the same if people like Tom or Coolgadget will decide to leave!!!
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I hope that day never comes.Is there anything we can do to help you?
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Hi to all XDA members,
firstly just wanna thank you guys for this great forum. without it, well my phone will be simply be a brick.
just wanted to highlight that when i read through threads and post, i see guys posting all kinds of useless stuff, or even wrong info and REQUEST for thanks...some post dangerous stuff which could end up in bricking a phone..some actually will reply a post by saying thank me if my post helped you. example below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27310617&postcount=2621
i just thought if we could add a dislike or no thanks button or something to that effect to have better control of quality on post. so that members will be careful with all this. and so taht threads dont become uneccesarily spamed with hundreds of pages of reading only to have low quality posts.
thanks guys!! thanks for everything !
ad_ek said:
Hi to all XDA members,
firstly just wanna thank you guys for this great forum. without it, well my phone will be simply be a brick.
just wanted to highlight that when i read through threads and post, i see guys posting all kinds of useless stuff, or even wrong info and REQUEST for thanks...some post dangerous stuff which could end up in bricking a phone..some actually will reply a post by saying thank me if my post helped you. example below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27310617&postcount=2621
i just thought if we could add a dislike or no thanks button or something to that effect to have better control of quality on post. so that members will be careful with all this. and so taht threads dont become uneccesarily spamed with hundreds of pages of reading only to have low quality posts.
thanks guys!! thanks for everything !
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In cases such as the example you gave, as long as the guy posting 'hit thanks' has actually helped the OP, I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. I don't do that myself, but there's a reason they introduced the thanks button into these forums, so that threads weren't cluttered up by people posting 'thanks' and people really don't use the thanks button enough. IMO if you are on XDA pretty much every day, at least just browsing through your favourite ROMs and checking for updates, you should really be using all of your thanks every day.
As for the dislike button idea, I think I've read that they are testing a thumbs up/thumbs down button, and they had certainly implemented a beta in the GNex forums at some point.
hi nigel,
yup you are right. ppl should use it more often. many tend to post thanks instead of hitting the button. i 100% agree we need to use it.
its the other post that are not useful or even accurate that is posted needs to also be addressed.
thanks for sharing about the thumb down option. this will be great..
I think it is a good idea but I don't know how will it work...
Look, the devs put a lot of their time at developing their roms, I imagine some stupids to hit a dislike button just because they prefer another rom.....do you see? Do the devs have to carry negative "results" just because some are @#$%$#@@#
In the other hand, it is true,maybe due to so many members ,that there are so many useless posts in usefull threads, and that's a big problem.
If that would decrease the number of them(useless posts), I surely support it!!!
I really like to see members who want to make that community better.thanks for sharing your suggestion.
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Hmmm you are right..ive seen some guys that have beef with developers here, and they might use that to give them bad rep just as an sabotage.
its going to be difficult indeed. but now that i think about, its easier to deal with annoying post, rather than idiots pissing off real developers who are contributing to the community.
im not sure if the trade off is going worth it. ive seen developers having to deal with the stupidest of questions and the laziness of readers everyday and i feel so bad for them. i always try to help answer simple stuff that i know from reading. I started this thread in hopes to help them, but it might just backfire.
My goodness lol I know a lot about hacking, my phone, roms ,general troubleshooting and a lot of other things and also a lot about forums and the vermin that live in them. I just don't say much because I never was a forum posting guy I'm a do it my self guy. Throwing "NOOB" around to some guy/girl that just wants to know how to operate or troubleshoot his/her galaxy that he paid a great deal for is b.s. I read countless a** hole replies that don't even answer the question, a lot of the answers are just failed attempts to sound like the "cool" sarcastic guy that sits in the back of a remedial math class. I've been coming to xda since I had a g2 (never registered) and slowly and slowly the community is turning from people that would kind of help you to d**ks with a false sense of entitlement that reply with a totally unreasonable response. Yeah it's common knowledge to a lot of people but some people really don't know what they are doing and don't want a brick and need the help of this lovely community. I'm not ranting its just my opinion on whats CLEARLY going on if you don't like it f*** off and go fly a kite.
I do not support smart guys who constantly ask eta questions though.
The problem I see is that, as you say, these people don't know what they're doing and want the information handed to them.
I've never seen a post get a BAD response when the person clearly outlined their problem and explained what they already knew and why their research wasn't getting them anywhere.
The people that DON'T make posts like that need to do some research - not just have the information thrown at them for their own good. Think about if you just gave someone information on how to build and operate a bomb without them knowing how it worked and how to do it safely. Sure, they're probably not going to lose fingers - but they could brick an expensive device and it's kinder to give some tough love and pointing in the direction of research, knowledge, and understanding before they make a mess that they can't get out of.
In the words of H.P. Lovecraft : "Do not call up that which you can not put down".
Yeah I know what your saying and I agree. Just that some people ask questions live what boxes should I check in Odin, whats a zip lol, should I wipe b4 or after, what original dev, how do I root. Those a simple questions and they are common knowledge to a lot (maybe not how do I root because many things can go wrong if you derp it up). These can get simple responses or links but ppl will post turd responses like noon read the op, we answers that in 2011 look it up, just don't root. Stuff like that I'm not saying go in to depth with a dude asking about something when he doesn't ever know the dos, don'ts and risk. I know I'm not the only one there's threads about it.
Sent from my SGH-T999 who wishes it was red and not American.
I agree 100%. The thing that irritates the F out of me is the few that run around here acting like they know it all... Then ***** and say search, then like each others post for being asshats to someone who asked a simple question that deserved a simple answer. I do occasionally call them out but it doesn't do any good.
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Lol yeah one guy asked does any one know where I can find the inverted YouTube I'm new.. A did responded Noob you'll find it in a different section. Thank me for the help.
Then a civilized guy posted a link to the apk (which is simple to find for the average user) and said to the guy above something like I think this is what you meant to do but the xda douche in you did not allow it.
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Because they think they are cool when in reality they are more noobish than the person they are replying to. There's a simple if you don't have anything good to say dont say nothing at all...but I guess their mamas didn't teach them that common sense.
For some reason they rather reply being a total dipsh*t than simply IGNORE the post. Don't get me wrong some of the replies Realy are deserving like the ones when the person constantly whines about their problem and want to b*tch aT the dev...most of the time noobs...such as my self just want simply answered because we've search and couldn't find the answers or we found an answers but it pertains to another device.
They probably didn't get much love from high school so wants to be the cool jogs here
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From the moderator
To all in this thread.......
Most of the moderators would appreciate it if everyone were considerate, kind and patient........BUT......... that said,
Some do act with arrogance and inconsideration, ......report them we are here to assist.
Understand that the important responsibilities of a member is to Read enough that they can understand what to ask and how to ask it.
One of the overriding problems with XDA is we (the members) are not from one country, or one culture..so, many have to use Google translator or some other method to post in in English.
This creates an additional layer of misunderstanding, which in turn, makes things even more complicated.
Couple all of this with have a bunch of adolescent kids posting as well..... and now you have described XDA.......
So, with this explanation......it basically means to be patient, polite and considerate and when others begin to troll, or flame report them, this keeps these inconsiderates participation to a minimum
Unfortunately, this is thread is way to prone to escalating a flame-war....
Thank you for posting and "venting" off some of the common frustration we all feel from time to time....
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~~~ oka1
There is also the thread below that you can link people to regarding their posting attitudes.
Posting Etiquette - Don't Anger a Developer
I see many people practically begging for "thanks" hits in their sigs. I was just wondering why this is? What are the advantages if any of getting a lot of "thank yous"
Personally I never ask for them and don't pay much attention to them on another's but some sigs have the request in big and bold letters sometimes twice!! I have been a member for a long time and this has always perplexed me. LOL
Thought i'd ask since I just read a post that contained THREE requests for "hitting the thanks button" $$$
Is it really THAT important?
Don't know but.
Thanks meter shows your reputation.
How much you are reputed.
And the more it is the more people listen to your help.
Its my way of think .
Can't say if this is the only reason.
There might be different also.
Let see. Even I wanna know it.
Someone will definately answer this
They suck!
But they decide how helpful / knowledgeable you are!
Thanks is something that isn't to be begged but gained!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559412
read this thread.
There are many more posts like yours.
No they're not important.
At first someones thanks meter could be used to determine if a user was a helpful member, more so than others. Now though, due to major misuse of the thanks button, it means nothing because someone who rarely helps could have more thanks than someone who always helps others.
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The majority of people who receive *Thanks* on this forum receive it for posting a witty response to a thread.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559412
read this thread.
There are many more posts like yours.
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THANKS
YEP This is exactly what I meant. So many people trolling for "thanks" and even donation buttons lol
It certainly feels good that the advice you have given to others is appreciated, and this appreciation is shown through "Thanks" here on XDA. It also builds reputation, like others have said in this thread. The Thanks button loses it meaning, however, when people beg for them in their signatures or end their post with a similar sentence to "Hit thanks if I helped you!".
thanks is something people just click when they feel like it,
like an itch on your back,
you can scratch it if you want or you can ignore it,
or you can put mineral oil and rub it across..
anyways,
my point is,
you are not obliged to click the button,
if someone has helped you then click it or don't (you ungrateful BS)
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THANKS
YEP This is exactly what I meant. So many people trolling for "thanks" and even donation buttons lol
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Donation buttons are fine seeing as you actually gain something from a donation. As long as the person has a valid reason to ask (RTs, RDs and anyone who does a lot of original, time consuming work) there's no reason they shouldn't ask for a voluntary donation. As for thanks, I don't see any reason to ask for them specifically but they can often be a good indication of how helpful someone has been. Of course, sometimes they're a wildly inaccurate measure as people are thanked for funny or witty posts as well as useful ones. As for me, I use my own thanks to keep track of threads where people may require follow-up help of any sort.
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Donation buttons are fine seeing as you actually gain something from a donation. As long as the person has a valid reason to ask (RTs, RDs and anyone who does a lot of original, time consuming work) there's no reason they shouldn't ask for a voluntary donation. As for thanks, I don't see any reason to ask for them specifically but they can often be a good indication of how helpful someone has been. Of course, sometimes they're a wildly inaccurate measure as people are thanked for funny or witty posts as well as useful ones. As for me, I use my own thanks to keep track of threads where people may require follow-up help of any sort.
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I was referring to the general population putting "Donate to me" links on their moniker sections...Whats up with that? I don't pay much attention to thanks numbers. I pay attention to the information in the posts. IF its worthy I will hit Thanks IF they are not asking for it.
I don't understand the need for "reputation" I have seen misinformation come from people with a lot of thanks and good information from new members. Contributors who actually provide ROMS, Kernels, Apps deserve donations and thanks.
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I was referring to the general population putting "Donate to me" links on their moniker sections...Whats up with that? I don't pay much attention to thanks numbers. I pay attention to the information in the posts. IF its worthy I will hit Thanks IF they are not asking for it.
I don't understand the need for "reputation" I have seen misinformation come from people with a lot of thanks and good information from new members. Contributors who actually provide ROMS, Kernels, Apps deserve donations and thanks.
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That is true. But to some, first impressions will affect their judgement of a reply, especially if the ones providing solutions are 'Recognized' members with tens of thousands of thanks. Of course, everyone is different. Some are desperate for thanks, whereas others are just glad to help.
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IF its worthy I will hit Thanks IF they are not asking for it.
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Exactly. I've never ever press thanks if the poster explicitly mention/request/beg it in their signature or post, no matter how useful the information is. Begging for thanks for raising thanks meter is just plain pathetic in my dictionary.
an0nym0us_ said:
Exactly. I've never ever press thanks if the poster explicitly mention/request/beg it in their signature or post, no matter how useful the information is. Begging for thanks for raising thanks meter is just plain pathetic in my dictionary.
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If you don't thanks .
The person whos helping you in knowledge or any other way.
Then the person is a leech in my dictionary.
I don't care. Thanks need to be earned, not to be begged for.
zeuscluts said:
If you don't thanks .
The person whos helping you in knowledge or any other way.
Then the person is a leach in my dictionary.
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BTW "Leach" is spelled LEECH
Hit "thanks" for the spelling lesson
Awais Malik said:
Goooood
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Will you please stop spamming?
Reporting you...
You don't score until you score
when u help someone... do u help to obtain thanks from him or do u help him because u can......or ur knowledge can help him come out of trouble
to b true.... when i was new on xda... i did had my signature as PRESS THANKS IF I HELPED...
bt as i spend more time here... i realised the thanks meter aint that important....
if the guy u helped feels thankful he will press thanks....as a sign of gratitude....
why beg for one ??
drsanket_xperia_u said:
when u help someone... do u help to obtain thanks from him or do u help him because u can......or ur knowledge can help him come out of trouble
to b true.... when i was new on xda... i did had my signature as PRESS THANKS IF I HELPED...
bt as i spend more time here... i realised the thanks meter aint that important....
if the guy u helped feels thankful he will press thanks....as a sign of gratitude....
why beg for one ??
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I guess some people demand credibility loudly.....others earn it silently
A simple thanks.... for anyone that help you....
I believe that... hit "thanks" or write it in a post is the same.
I'm not sure what irritates me more here, the people who can't read and follow simple rules or the mods with little man syndrome. Letting their little bit of power go to their heads and shutting down threads for fairly trivial reasons in the scheme of things.
There's an update rolling out, people want news. Sure some people seem to be unable to refrain from posting that they haven't got it or asking when they will, but so what?
Is it really that hard to scroll past them? If, as a mod it offends you that much, is it really that hard to just clean the thread?
Or is it more fun to wield that power, talk down to people and lock another thread?
How about a little understanding during an update guys?
Regards,
Damion.
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badomen said:
I'm not sure what irritates me more here, the people who can't read and follow simple rules or the mods with little man syndrome. Letting their little bit of power go to their heads and shutting down threads for fairly trivial reasons in the scheme of things.
There's an update rolling out, people want news. Sure some people seem to be unable to refrain from posting that they haven't got it or asking when they will, but so what?
Is it really that hard to scroll past them? If, as a mod it offends you that much, is it really that hard to just clean the thread?
Or is it more fun to wield that power, talk down to people and lock another thread?
How about a little understanding during an update guys?
Regards,
Damion.
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+1 agree 100%.. its xda afterall, where people like us want to learn about the latest and greatest in android.. or it should be mentioned separately that noobs should refrain from posting their little questions and probs..
don't think this will last long, or OP for that matter lol!!!! :silly:
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Also would just like to point out that most of the mods have been on here for years and are recognised developers or contributors. You can't become a mod just like that. Also I think someone who has no thanks and only 28 posts needs to pipe down, read the rules and maybe smoke a spliff and chill. You have nothing on the aforementioned people
I hundred percent agree. This update is big news , not just a incremental update .
I know I have asked a few times about what cid's have received ,it would then seem like people are very quick to have there pennies worth .
I'm new to this hox and I bought my phone after coming from the Xperia T which I thought was dreadful.
Have been very satisfied with the device and I'm eager for news on it and help knowing stuff to do with it .
Please consider people like myself who are as not as technically minded as some of you guys out there , people who are eager to learn on what knowledge you have to share .
Thanks
Chris
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This is not a appropriate place for you to air your thoughts. If you have a issue, please make the moderation team aware of it by PM or by means of the report system. It also has nothing to do with the device in which forum you are posting.
Now as you posted.
None of the mods on this team are on any sort of "power trip" They put large amounts of spare time into keeping this forum running smoothly. We do it for the good of the community, and we try to contribute to said community. Without some of the efforts of the moderation team, this forum would not be the fantastic resource it is.
Now, for the update thread. Do you really think loads of posts *****ing they have not received a update is really helpful? Get real. Nobody wants to dredge through endless amounts of junk. We want to get to the information we are looking for. I think the main problem you have is patience!
Now it is our job to clean the forums, but its also a users responsibility to post in accordance with the rules. You see where i am going here?
If you feel yourself or any other user has been treated incorrectly by the moderation team, please make our team leader broncogr aware of it, He will look into it.