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[Q] I don't want to sound like a brat, but how close are we to a 1 click root?

Let me start of by saying I'm really grateful for all of the hard work all the devs put in for this big win! But I'm trying to weighout waiting for a 1 click or if I should test my adb skills. You know how it goes. Thanks everybody!

This has already been done with visionary
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I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if following the very clear and succinct step-by-step instructions worries you too much, I'd question if you should be rooting your phone to begin with. You can mess up a lot on a rooted phone if you don't know what you're doing.

grivad said:
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if following the very clear and succinct step-by-step instructions worries you too much, I'd question if you should be rooting your phone to begin with. You can mess up a lot on a rooted phone if you don't know what you're doing.
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amen to that! but no joke, word for word is hard to mess up. a lot of the things u end up doing is gonna be some word to word stuff, no one click tricks usually. so get comfortable
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the video makes it very easy just watch that and do exactly what he says it works great

I rooted my phone without adb... lol
it can all be done via terminal

visionary 13
has any1 tryed the app visionary13 perm-root yet and did it wrk i found the app on MaDaCo site but i havent used it yet i am waiting for my new g2 to come to come from tmobile had to get a new onw one cause i took the google goggles off and that made it so that i could not get the new ota-update so when the new one comes i want to root it trying visionary13.

byno1 said:
has any1 tryed the app visionary13 perm-root yet and did it wrk i found the app on MaDaCo site but i havent used it yet i am waiting for my new g2 to come to come from tmobile had to get a new onw one cause i took the google goggles off and that made it so that i could not get the new ota-update so when the new one comes i want to root it trying visionary13.
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you got a replacement for your phone because you couldn't take the time to revert on your own and then apply the update? shame on you.
@OP
root is very easy, if you can read and follow directions you will be fine, but what the others say is true, if you are worried then you should either learn up on your sdk tools or not root your phone because i promise you will get a bootloop one day and not know what to do and you will ask us if it is broken and how to fix it(unless you have been doing your reading), and most likely if we tell you how to fix it then you are going to need adb anyways

rooting is really easy if you use the rage method.

grivad said:
I don't want to sound like a jerk, but if following the very clear and succinct step-by-step instructions worries you too much, I'd question if you should be rooting your phone to begin with. You can mess up a lot on a rooted phone if you don't know what you're doing.
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Thanks for being a ****, but your anti failed, I upped my ADB to spite you. 3 phones rooted, no problems yet.

It's just my opinion, but I don't think the one-click root method is great for the G2. Unlike the Vibrant there is a step that can brick your phone, and you are best doing that one by hand. Plus, learning ADB will make your life sooooo much easier when you actually do root the phone.
Rooting is just the first step, then you have to do cool stuff to it. Then you need to screw it up, and then you need to fix it. All of that is made much easier or requires ADB.

cparekh said:
Rooting is just the first step, then you have to do cool stuff to it. Then you need to screw it up, and then you need to fix it. All of that is made much easier or requires ADB.
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Haha, so true.

[Q] Just got my G2...

and I'm new to this android stuff, completely. So I was wondering what kinda mods can I do to this phone and what should I do to it.

You should root it and apply a bunch of roms in the development section to see which one you like. Almost all of the roms have none of the bloatware that your provider demands your phone have on it, and some of them have custom looks to fit your aesthetic needs. More importantly, most of the roms will be easier on the battery of your phone, so you don't have to plug it in every 4 hours.
A good question is are you use to the process of modifying your phone?

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You should root it and apply a bunch of roms in the development section to see which one you like. Almost all of the roms have none of the bloatware that your provider demands your phone have on it, and some of them have custom looks to fit your aesthetic needs. More importantly, most of the roms will be easier on the battery of your phone, so you don't have to plug it in every 4 hours.
A good question is are you use to the process of modifying your phone?
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nope. I've never modified a phone before. Which is why I'm so interested in doing so now since I have a good phone lol. How do I "root" my phone n all that..

You're right. You do have a kick ass phone and you should take full control of it and do what you like to it, since you bought it.
The method I used to root my phone is an older method, which is posted at the top of this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837315
Watch it SEVERAL times before trying. People say their root didn't complete, but let me tell you, the battery pull is oh so necessary.
After that, go into the development section to start flashing roms. Each rom comes with instructions to flash, but they're basically all the same.

My suggestion would be to wait until you have familiarized yourself with this forum and Read until you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it. HERES A GOOD PLACE TO START. Its really easy to mess up your "good" phone doing stuff to it that you don't fully understand.
While the root method suggested above by enserio has worked and I my self used Visionary to root (not with this video though), it has caused so many bricked bootloops I can even guess a number, by far the most risky way to root. It is the least technical way, but with the most dangers. Hope you can afford to buy a new phone because your taking a big gamble rooting this way.
The method I recommend and anyone who has been in this forum long enough to know better would be HERE XDA WIKI, it uses Rage to temp root then Gfree to permroot. This is the safest way to root your phone, even if you mess up more than likely your phone will survive. This requires some technical knowledge but you can gain this by reading and searching and looking for tutorial videos on how to use ADB. Plus the skills learned would be indispensable.

enserio said:
You're right. You do have a kick ass phone and you should take full control of it and do what you like to it, since you bought it.
The method I used to root my phone is an older method, which is posted at the top of this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837315
Watch it SEVERAL times before trying. People say their root didn't complete, but let me tell you, the battery pull is oh so necessary.
After that, go into the development section to start flashing roms. Each rom comes with instructions to flash, but they're basically all the same.
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I read someone on the forum got their phone bricked from some method.. My phone won't be harmed will it??

joemm said:
My suggestion would be to wait until you have familiarized yourself with this forum and Read until you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it. HERES A GOOD PLACE TO START. Its really easy to mess up your "good" phone doing stuff to it that you don't fully understand.
While the root method suggested above by enserio has worked and I my self used Visionary to root (not with this video though), it has caused so many bricked bootloops I can even guess a number, by far the most risky way to root. It is the least technical way, but with the most dangers. Hope you can afford to buy a new phone because your taking a big gamble rooting this way.
The method I recommend and anyone who has been in this forum long enough to know better would be HERE XDA WIKI, it uses Rage to temp root then Gfree to permroot. This is the safest way to root your phone, even if you mess up more than likely your phone will survive. This requires some technical knowledge but you can gain this by reading and searching and looking for tutorial videos on how to use ADB. Plus the skills learned would be indispensable.
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awesome. thanks, I start studying n looking into all this now.

huhhhhh said:
I read someone on the forum got their phone bricked from some method.. My phone won't be harmed will it??
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if you screw up, it will.
also, rooting and installing custom roms does not at all mean better battery life.
it varies greatly depending upon what you use the phone for and how often you use it.
I, in fact, have LOST a lot of battery life since rooting, because I have been using it more than I would if I hadn't rooted/installed custom roms.
my suggestion:
play with the phone as it came from the factory, read around here and see if there is any functionality you could gain from modding/rooting/custom roms, and go from there.

*sigh*
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huhhhhh said:
I read someone on the forum got their phone bricked from some method.. My phone won't be harmed will it??
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Most of the bricks came from the Visionary method; as stated above, the best/safest means to root is in the wiki, that's the method the guys/gals who found the exploit created.
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OriginalGabriel said:
Most of the bricks came from the Visionary method; as stated above, the best/safest means to root is in the wiki, that's the method the guys/gals who found the exploit created.
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That's not to say that there aren't other ways to brick your phone. Someone messing around in things they don't understand can easily turn your G2 into a paperweight. Its always just a safe rule to research first

Grats on the phone.
I lurked on here and read for a few weeks to make sure I had a full understanding before attempting anything.
Since doing lots based off of the dev forums I've been extremely happy. Just be careful and do your due diligence and you should be fine as long as your halfway technically inclined.

Switched from the S2 to the GN

I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.

kingofthebraves said:
I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!

aPiso said:
And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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+1 it's truly amazing how many people cannot read or follow rules/directions.

Pretty sure this Development section is the wrong place for an opinions thread.
To not seem like a jerk though, I'll share. I had an SG2, my GNex battery lasts on avg 35 hours with normal texting/facebook/calls. with gaming still get around 18hours.
I HATED the lag in screen wake with the SG2. (it's due to the way SG2 goes into deep sleep)
& Screen brightness? Honestly, I never have the brightness more than 60% unless showing off pictures.

Woops didnt mean that sorry . Mods if you'd kindly move my thread now before everyone flames my ass: )
Yeah one of the reasons why i wanted to switch my s2 was the wake up lag and the annoying home button lag . Seems allsamsung branded phones come with this now.

I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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Dai323 said:
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.

zephiK said:
I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.

babymatteo said:
That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.

babymatteo said:
That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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Not being funny but that's how You like you'r fone set up, don't mean he's gonna like it too
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zephiK said:
The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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Dai323 said:
I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.

You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved

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You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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then report the thread so a moderator can move it.

done

zephiK said:
All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS

hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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No. Just...no.

hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS
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Ease of convenience does not always make for better solutions. Short cuts don't always work out so well and if your going to be modifying your device why not take the time to learn the correct methods? But on the other hand, to each their own.
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hp13 said:
just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know.
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Correct but if you plan on rooting it you most definitely should know the steps behind it.
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seriously? who cares how people root their phone...go outside.
and yeah op, the gnex is pretty sweet for roms and mods, but yeah the s2 has some better attributes then the nexus

[Q] kinda lost

ok so first of all im sry if this has been posted elsewhere but ive been looking and cannot find anything. secondly im not sure if this is the right spot but im still gonna post it right here.
now onto the question, basically i had an inspire 4g rooted with ICS which i loved but recently moved to verizon, got a nexus n everything back on the phone except my game data which i backed up on inspire using "my backup". obviously it wont work without me rooting my nexus. im trying to not root this phone unless i truly have to since i dont see the point in it right now since it already has everything i want from the getgo. but basically wat options do i have for getting the data to work on the nexus? i unzipped the backups n everything n am kinda at a lost at wat i can do.

Not much you can do without SU permissions (root). You could try pulling the files you want to copy from Android/Data then pasting them in the same directory on your Nexus. There isn't much value in having a Nexus if you aren't going to root it though. That's just my opinion.

063_XOBX said:
Not much you can do without SU permissions (root). You could try pulling the files you want to copy from Android/Data then pasting them in the same directory on your Nexus. There isn't much value in having a Nexus if you aren't going to root it though. That's just my opinion.
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Yea I was kinda figuring that with the whole permissions but I was hoping there was a work around for it n I did what u suggested n it actually worked so I'm good now. Thx for the advise n about the rooting I had a friend do his n it didn't seem like he gained much besides basically what we were talking about n such. So if u could tell me all of the benefits then I may reconsider doing it ASAP lol

brucebruce said:
Yea I was kinda figuring that with the whole permissions but I was hoping there was a work around for it n I did what u suggested n it actually worked so I'm good now. Thx for the advise n about the rooting I had a friend do his n it didn't seem like he gained much besides basically what we were talking about n such. So if u could tell me all of the benefits then I may reconsider doing it ASAP lol
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I'm not going to sell you on the idea, I have nothing to gain from it whether you do or don't. You are a member of these forums, if you don't see anything that interests you then don't root.

brucebruce said:
Yea I was kinda figuring that with the whole permissions but I was hoping there was a work around for it n I did what u suggested n it actually worked so I'm good now. Thx for the advise n about the rooting I had a friend do his n it didn't seem like he gained much besides basically what we were talking about n such. So if u could tell me all of the benefits then I may reconsider doing it ASAP lol
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Just because you root it doesn't mean you have to flash a custom ROM, you can leave it bone stock and just restore your game data...
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I'm decfently not asking to b sold on the idea. I just have no idea as to wat I gain by doing it on the nexus. I knew that with my inspire I could put ICS on it with no problem n make it tweak it for better performance n get full customization out of it along with the recovery options. I

Well off the top of my head there's:
SetCPU
Modifying Color Multipliers
Root Permissions
Assorted Mods etc.
That's just without changing the ROM.

brucebruce said:
I'm decfently not asking to b sold on the idea. I just have no idea as to wat I gain by doing it on the nexus. I knew that with my inspire I could put ICS on it with no problem n make it tweak it for better performance n get full customization out of it along with the recovery options. I
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You can gain quite a bit without even flashing a custom ROM as mentioned above, but some of the Gnex ROMs have insane customisation options...
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You got a nexus, and your not going to root it
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levi-17 said:
You got a nexus, and your not going to root it
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Rooting and unlocking takes up a lot of your free time. Makes your phone act stupid when you least expect it.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Rooting and unlocking takes up a lot of your free time. Makes your phone act stupid when you least expect it.
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Rooting and unlocking = 15 minutes if you read everything. 30 if you are seriously slow.
Your phone is only as smart as the person using it, if something goes wrong its almost certainly something YOU did. Don't try to blame your experiences on the rooting and unlocking process.

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Rooting and unlocking takes up a lot of your free time. Makes your phone act stupid when you least expect it.
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I really hope this post is sarcastic...

063_XOBX said:
Rooting and unlocking = 15 minutes if you read everything. 30 if you are seriously slow.
Your phone is only as smart as the person using it, if something goes wrong its almost certainly something YOU did. Don't try to blame your experiences on the rooting and unlocking process.
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OMG, you really took what I typed LITERALLY. What I meant by "takes up a lot of your time" is all the flashing, troubleshooting, etc. Geez
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
OMG, you really took what I typed LITERALLY. What I meant by "takes up a lot of your time" is all the flashing, troubleshooting, etc. Geez
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flashing takes seconds, no need to be flash addict..
troubleshooting? sounds like you flash crappy roms. I have no woes/troubles here.

I haven't seen the reason to root yet but I do plan on it in the future when I get bored n want more. I just didn't see the benefits since I like how ICS n jelly bean n feel but thx for all the info guys. It helped a lot

Just wanted to drop this:
"With great power, comes great responsability."
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15 min if you read everything...
063_XOBX said:
Rooting and unlocking = 15 minutes if you read everything. 30 if you are seriously slow.
Your phone is only as smart as the person using it, if something goes wrong its almost certainly something YOU did. Don't try to blame your experiences on the rooting and unlocking process.
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While I respect your answer as being correct: I had a rough time and I tried so hard to read everything, starting with efrant's educational post and all the guides, basics, tips and tricks, etc. By the end of the day I had 12 different tabs open trying to figure out what I had done wrong. It seemed so simple, and yet somehow I ended up having to factory reset, go back to stock and start over, and THEN it took 20 minutes. It was a good learning experience, but frustrating. Turned out it would have taken 20 minutes to begin with, except in all that reading I somehow missed that after you root, the Gnex reboots and you have to wait a while, go through set-up and turn USB debugging back on. I suppose my mistake was not reading through all the guide post replies after the official "guide" post--lesson learned. I took my licks, I suppose. Total n00b, coming into this with basically no knowledge.
Though I really can echo your assertion that it's something "you" did--the unlocking and rooting process is pretty simple. It was my mistake, for sure.

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[Q] Root Questions (now and later)

Hello. I guess I have a few random questions regarding root on this device. I won't bore you with pleasantries. Here are the questions:
1) What do you think the possibility of root is with this device (bounty and all)? I mean, honestly. I'm not just talking hopefulness. Do you really think it'll get root? Root means a lot to me. I enjoy everything that you can do with it. Not having it is sort of bumming me out. It's the first Android phone I've not had root on. And I really am loving the Note 4. I don't want to go to a Nexus 6 JUST for root, ya know?
2) Is root going to go away in the future (in general)? It seems like the carriers are getting very serious about locking everything down. Android L is supposed to make it even MORE difficult to exploit vulnerabilities.
Anyway, I guess that's it. Any thoughts you have about anything I mentioned above is welcomed. I mean this question to be more of a discussion than anything else.
Thanks for all of your responses.
-T

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Well I see this question / discussion is going over well, lol.

The Galaxy line is by far the hugest force in Android, its development community is massive. That said, we're a spin off Galaxy phone, and a carrier specific. I've been with Android phones and the Galaxy line since its inception, and if nothing else, the one thing that always hold true is; we always find a way. There may be a day when OEMs and Carriers can go toe to toe with XDA, but that day won't be today. We'll have root soon.
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That was an awesome response! It was like a halftime speech. I am ready to run through a brick AT&T wall!
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1.) Root on KitKat will be found. It's just a matter of time and effort.
2.) Root on Android L is going to be a different story. Once this phone is upgraded to lollipop it will be impossible to root without an unlocked boot loader. This is because of the new implementation of SELinux, which will require a custom kernel in order to maintain root access during the boot of the device. At least this is what Chainfire had stated. Therefore people need to focus on the boot loader NOT root.
Also definitely don't upgrade to lollipop until the borrower has been unlocked otherwise you may be SOL.
Just my 2 cents.
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