[Q] kinda lost - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

ok so first of all im sry if this has been posted elsewhere but ive been looking and cannot find anything. secondly im not sure if this is the right spot but im still gonna post it right here.
now onto the question, basically i had an inspire 4g rooted with ICS which i loved but recently moved to verizon, got a nexus n everything back on the phone except my game data which i backed up on inspire using "my backup". obviously it wont work without me rooting my nexus. im trying to not root this phone unless i truly have to since i dont see the point in it right now since it already has everything i want from the getgo. but basically wat options do i have for getting the data to work on the nexus? i unzipped the backups n everything n am kinda at a lost at wat i can do.

Not much you can do without SU permissions (root). You could try pulling the files you want to copy from Android/Data then pasting them in the same directory on your Nexus. There isn't much value in having a Nexus if you aren't going to root it though. That's just my opinion.

063_XOBX said:
Not much you can do without SU permissions (root). You could try pulling the files you want to copy from Android/Data then pasting them in the same directory on your Nexus. There isn't much value in having a Nexus if you aren't going to root it though. That's just my opinion.
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Yea I was kinda figuring that with the whole permissions but I was hoping there was a work around for it n I did what u suggested n it actually worked so I'm good now. Thx for the advise n about the rooting I had a friend do his n it didn't seem like he gained much besides basically what we were talking about n such. So if u could tell me all of the benefits then I may reconsider doing it ASAP lol

brucebruce said:
Yea I was kinda figuring that with the whole permissions but I was hoping there was a work around for it n I did what u suggested n it actually worked so I'm good now. Thx for the advise n about the rooting I had a friend do his n it didn't seem like he gained much besides basically what we were talking about n such. So if u could tell me all of the benefits then I may reconsider doing it ASAP lol
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I'm not going to sell you on the idea, I have nothing to gain from it whether you do or don't. You are a member of these forums, if you don't see anything that interests you then don't root.

brucebruce said:
Yea I was kinda figuring that with the whole permissions but I was hoping there was a work around for it n I did what u suggested n it actually worked so I'm good now. Thx for the advise n about the rooting I had a friend do his n it didn't seem like he gained much besides basically what we were talking about n such. So if u could tell me all of the benefits then I may reconsider doing it ASAP lol
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Just because you root it doesn't mean you have to flash a custom ROM, you can leave it bone stock and just restore your game data...
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I'm decfently not asking to b sold on the idea. I just have no idea as to wat I gain by doing it on the nexus. I knew that with my inspire I could put ICS on it with no problem n make it tweak it for better performance n get full customization out of it along with the recovery options. I

Well off the top of my head there's:
SetCPU
Modifying Color Multipliers
Root Permissions
Assorted Mods etc.
That's just without changing the ROM.

brucebruce said:
I'm decfently not asking to b sold on the idea. I just have no idea as to wat I gain by doing it on the nexus. I knew that with my inspire I could put ICS on it with no problem n make it tweak it for better performance n get full customization out of it along with the recovery options. I
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You can gain quite a bit without even flashing a custom ROM as mentioned above, but some of the Gnex ROMs have insane customisation options...
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You got a nexus, and your not going to root it
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levi-17 said:
You got a nexus, and your not going to root it
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Rooting and unlocking takes up a lot of your free time. Makes your phone act stupid when you least expect it.
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Rooting and unlocking takes up a lot of your free time. Makes your phone act stupid when you least expect it.
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Rooting and unlocking = 15 minutes if you read everything. 30 if you are seriously slow.
Your phone is only as smart as the person using it, if something goes wrong its almost certainly something YOU did. Don't try to blame your experiences on the rooting and unlocking process.

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Rooting and unlocking takes up a lot of your free time. Makes your phone act stupid when you least expect it.
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I really hope this post is sarcastic...

063_XOBX said:
Rooting and unlocking = 15 minutes if you read everything. 30 if you are seriously slow.
Your phone is only as smart as the person using it, if something goes wrong its almost certainly something YOU did. Don't try to blame your experiences on the rooting and unlocking process.
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OMG, you really took what I typed LITERALLY. What I meant by "takes up a lot of your time" is all the flashing, troubleshooting, etc. Geez
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
OMG, you really took what I typed LITERALLY. What I meant by "takes up a lot of your time" is all the flashing, troubleshooting, etc. Geez
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flashing takes seconds, no need to be flash addict..
troubleshooting? sounds like you flash crappy roms. I have no woes/troubles here.

I haven't seen the reason to root yet but I do plan on it in the future when I get bored n want more. I just didn't see the benefits since I like how ICS n jelly bean n feel but thx for all the info guys. It helped a lot

Just wanted to drop this:
"With great power, comes great responsability."
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15 min if you read everything...
063_XOBX said:
Rooting and unlocking = 15 minutes if you read everything. 30 if you are seriously slow.
Your phone is only as smart as the person using it, if something goes wrong its almost certainly something YOU did. Don't try to blame your experiences on the rooting and unlocking process.
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While I respect your answer as being correct: I had a rough time and I tried so hard to read everything, starting with efrant's educational post and all the guides, basics, tips and tricks, etc. By the end of the day I had 12 different tabs open trying to figure out what I had done wrong. It seemed so simple, and yet somehow I ended up having to factory reset, go back to stock and start over, and THEN it took 20 minutes. It was a good learning experience, but frustrating. Turned out it would have taken 20 minutes to begin with, except in all that reading I somehow missed that after you root, the Gnex reboots and you have to wait a while, go through set-up and turn USB debugging back on. I suppose my mistake was not reading through all the guide post replies after the official "guide" post--lesson learned. I took my licks, I suppose. Total n00b, coming into this with basically no knowledge.
Though I really can echo your assertion that it's something "you" did--the unlocking and rooting process is pretty simple. It was my mistake, for sure.

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Rooting...good idea or bad??

So im thinkin to root my phone what u guys think should I?? What are the perks of doin it as well??
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Rooting is up to u man. If u want to do it. As far asks what u get it depends on what u flash. If u just want root then u have access to your /system partition. Use apps that require root permission. With a custom recovery U can flash custom kernels for overclock and undervolt purpose. You can flash custom ROMs.
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I would say no right now, to be honest.
I had a ton of troubles finding the right downloads to get it rooted. In the end, I rooted and installed Starburst and wasn't really impressed; I feel like there was nothing to even be able to edit. It was like running the stock ROM with a new lockscreen.
I'd hold off until development increases on this device. I'm probably going to unroot mine.
rooting is lots of fun, IF you know what the hell you are doing, BEFORE you start the process
Most problems that people have come from NOT READING and learning about it before they do it..
Just like anything else in life, if you don't read about it, and learn about it BEFORE you decide to do it, you will have problems.
It just blows my mind how many people get a phone, and root it and start flashing stuff without having any idea what they are doing, and then freak out when some thing goes wrong, and post frantic "please help me" stuff all over the internet..
Take the time to learn about it BEFORE you do it, and ask your questions BEFORE you start messing with your phone..If you won't do that, can't do that, or aren't smart enough to understand what you are reading, then don't root; this is a fantastic phone even if you never root it..
I was pessimistic aswell and took the plunge last night. Running Starburst its not the greatest but MUCH better than stock. Battery life is ludicrous. And much more fluid and responsive... My main reason was battery life and oh boy dose it help!
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See I rooted my evo 4g and I mean I liked it for the fact that I could do hella roms and I could overclock it cuz my friends had updated newer phones and just blowing me out the water with speed so I did it it was nice now in just stuck with this one cuz im not sure if its smart right now to do ya know
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Starbust rom does not come with theme. U have to apply it urself. There are alot of themes out there. SB its main point is to save battery and it did a great job.if u like to customize, remove bloatwares or tweak ur phone, root ur phone.
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I like viperom
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You can always reverse a root. it makes your phone even more functional than it already is.
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I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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ipetloudog said:
I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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THE root method will be the same.
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
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Phone is pretty new you may get lucky and there are not enough refurbs out there to give you back a new one
Shimmy808 said:
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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I agree its totally up to the person but not like rooting and then unrooting is you difficult.... Hey may favorite line I have read in xda is "It aint yours till you root it" - words to live by....lol
Rooting is pretty easy on this phone, but I know there are not a lot of Devs compared to like the Evo 3d. The Devs we do have are all like pros at developing though, so they will be able to update and bring new things frequently. I rooted on Starburst's rom and I love it, because it's so Stock that it seems like its still and E4GT, but so different that I know its more smooth.
So im sewing u guys all like this starburst rom....I think I will wait lil bit longer to root when more roms comes out
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Removing bloatware without rooting device?

First off let me apologize ahead of time if I'm repeating an existing post, I searched and couldn't find his precise question.
Is it possible to remove software that comes preinstalled and is ultimately useless such as Amazon MP3 (obtrussive crud of a app), Samsung Media Hub and Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile (to name a very specific few). Obviously phones are different than computers but the first thing I do wen I get a new PC is to reinstall the OS which clears al the bloatware that computer manufacturers preinstalling but phones do not allow any chance of clearing said bloatware via this method or any other method that I've seen for that matter short of wiping the ROM. I know it's possible using root kits and new ROMs but I don't want to risk my phone or my warranty. I just want 5 or 6 pieces of software to be removed to clear precious memory. I'd accept being able to disable apps so they wuldn't auto run too if removing them is impossible.
Is there any way that any of you know? Please say yes...oh pretty please!
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Jake
You will need root to do anything like that. Autostarts is a good app for stopping apps from running at boot but it needs root.
It may seem a bit intimidating at first but it really is not that big a deal. Root is not going to hurt anything and you will end up with a much better experience.
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Root and then download a file managing app that will let you delete system apps. ES File Explorer is one of them.
Take less them 5 minutes. Heck you get into rooting and flashing different things you'll learn you can recover your phone phone back to a out of the box state in almost every situation.
Just make sure to read, read, read some more. And watch some of QBKing77 videos on youtube about the Epic 4G.
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First off let me apologize ahead of time if I'm repeating an existing post, I searched and couldn't find his precise question.
Is it possible to remove software that comes preinstalled and is ultimately useless such as Amazon MP3 (obtrussive crud of a app), Samsung Media Hub and Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile (to name a very specific few). Obviously phones are different than computers but the first thing I do wen I get a new PC is to reinstall the OS which clears al the bloatware that computer manufacturers preinstalling but phones do not allow any chance of clearing said bloatware via this method or any other method that I've seen for that matter short of wiping the ROM. I know it's possible using root kits and new ROMs but I don't want to risk my phone or my warranty. I just want 5 or 6 pieces of software to be removed to clear precious memory. I'd accept being able to disable apps so they wuldn't auto run too if removing them is impossible.
Is there any way that any of you know? Please say yes...oh pretty please!
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Jake
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Trust me... as long as you do research before hand and arent a complete moron, you will not brick your phone, its very hard to do. Also, your warranty will be fine as long as you dont overclock your CPU. Rooting your phone does not void your sprint warranty if i recall correctly....just make sure you odin back to a stock ROM before getting service. Make sure buy a different USB cable at the store before using ODIN, the stock cable that comes with your phone junk and will only cause you problems. Get a blackberry cable off ebay or newegg
Yeah and never pull the cable out in the middle of Odin. If it gets stuck pull the battery.
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NewSensei said:
First off let me apologize ahead of time if I'm repeating an existing post, I searched and couldn't find his precise question.
Is it possible to remove software that comes preinstalled and is ultimately useless such as Amazon MP3 (obtrussive crud of a app), Samsung Media Hub and Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile (to name a very specific few). Obviously phones are different than computers but the first thing I do wen I get a new PC is to reinstall the OS which clears al the bloatware that computer manufacturers preinstalling but phones do not allow any chance of clearing said bloatware via this method or any other method that I've seen for that matter short of wiping the ROM. I know it's possible using root kits and new ROMs but I don't want to risk my phone or my warranty. I just want 5 or 6 pieces of software to be removed to clear precious memory. I'd accept being able to disable apps so they wuldn't auto run too if removing them is impossible.
Is there any way that any of you know? Please say yes...oh pretty please!
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Jake
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here...i provided some links for you through my signature
I cannot see yer siggy. Prolly cause I'm using the app. I hardly touch my pc anymore.
I guess I "afeared" of bricing cause of all the horror stories I've heard about it. I love this phone but it gets old t have to go into running processes and apps and kill a bunch of crap before playing a game or something. I know I'd get more space to stretch if I went back to stock Os but I love the customization ability I get from go launcher ex, it's a system hog though...guess 'll start watchin vids on it, I work in IT so you'd figure I'd be comfy hacking away but for some reason doing anything to my phones has, and still is, a very hard thing too do.
Maybe it is like going in for surgery (which I've done too many times), I get all orked up ever time as if it'smy first time just to find out it no biggy. I really appreciate all the help ya'll are throwing my way. Truly I do, this is my first android os phone (used winmo for last 3 phones) so I'm still kinda noob at this
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NewSensei said:
I cannot see yer siggy. Prolly cause I'm using the app. I hardly touch my pc anymore.
I guess I "afeared" of bricing cause of all the horror stories I've heard about it. I love this phone but it gets old t have to go into running processes and apps and kill a bunch of crap before playing a game or something. I know I'd get more space to stretch if I went back to stock Os but I love the customization ability I get from go launcher ex, it's a system hog though...guess 'll start watchin vids on it, I work in IT so you'd figure I'd be comfy hacking away but for some reason doing anything to my phones has, and still is, a very hard thing too do.
Maybe it is like going in for surgery (which I've done too many times), I get all orked up ever time as if it'smy first time just to find out it no biggy. I really appreciate all the help ya'll are throwing my way. Truly I do, this is my first android os phone (used winmo for last 3 phones) so I'm still kinda noob at this
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I was the same way however long ago it was lol. I still only have a limit to what i feel comfy doing. Like editing build props i have no idea probably will learn one day though.
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Just follow qbking77's videos on youtube and never remove the cable while Odining and you will be fine. Root and enjoy your "new" phone.
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Not sure why people are so afraid to root... my god its the best thing you can do as a consumer... to rely on your service provider to tell you what you can and can not do with you device is ridiculous... even the feds think so that's why rooting and jailbreaking are 100% legal
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What I find funny is you made it to this forum yet havnt rooted
I had rooted my phone and 5 other friends before I ever even knew about xda
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Technically can't you adb stock apps away without root. Not that it is any easier...but it is possible isn't it?
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Djinn23 said:
Technically cand you adb stock apps away without root. Not that it is any easier...but it is possible isn't it?
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Not possible
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Via temp root, which does exist. There should be guides online with the how to's and links to everything you need plus all the commands.
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Yeah and never pull the cable out in the middle of Odin. If it gets stuck pull the battery.
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Meh I've pulled cable when odin was stuck. Still going lol
You could always root it, uninstall bloatware, and delete su? That way bloatware will be gone, and you won't be rooted.
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Meh I've pulled cable when odin was stuck. Still going lol
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I know I have done it a dozen times too but that seems to be the common element to the few genuine bricks we see. Maybe it is just their phone that can't handle it. Or maybe it is pulling the cable when it is not stuck...dunno.
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as long as you follow the steps in the tutorials, even the ones from the videos that qbking77 provides, you should have absolutely no problem. study the steps a few times in the videos, just to get familiar with the methods, then apply the steps as you watch the specified video. as long as you take your time and do things slowly, you should be fine.
Videos?
The vids you speak of, are they step by step? What I mean is, does the video secifically deal with the epic 4g and does it show where to get the programs, save them and how to install? I'd prefer to have someone there to "hold my hand" while I root for the first time but barring that if the vids are near that I'll feel better about it. Also, I searched youtube and couldn't find vids for epic 4g for doing this from start to finish.
I did, however, find a plethora of vids about rooting that start from a point AFTER they put whatever files were neded on the phon and have already done something I don't really know how to describe.
The incredibly funny thing is that I work in IT and have for over 20 years yet rooting my phone seems so incredibly dauntng. Much more so than it probably should by what you guys have said. I'm sorry for being such anobbisquet and I truly appreciate everyones responses and help. I've never been flamed on XDA and that is so awesome. Nothing ever gets done when evryone just responds "you're a stoopid noob who can't read so I won't tell you how to wipe your but never mind your phone." Or something as less than helpful as that.
Anyhow, thanks ya'll. I mean it.
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in order for you to remove any bloatware, you must be on a "deodexed rom", temporary root only lets you do somethings, but i believe you cannot do that.

Switched from the S2 to the GN

I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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I've been using the s2 for more than 7 months now and recently got a Galaxy Nexus. I don't know if this is a downgrade but there are definitely a lot of areas where the s2 just trashes the galaxy nexus.
1. S2 Camera is definitely better than the galaxy nexus, although the shutter speed of the GN is faaast.
2. S2 has better codec support for movies plus it renders movies faster. I'm using MX player on the GN and it takes 3-5 seconds when jumping between scenes. Even fast forwarding is slow.
3. Super amoled + is much much brighter than regular super amoled. It took a few days for my eyes to adjust to the screen's "dimness" and yellowish color. I'm sure you'll experience this if it's your first time viewing super amoled coming from the s2.
4. Battery on the GN is a little worse than the s2, I'm usually at 30 percent before the end of the day with barely 1.5 hr screen time.
The development of the GN on the other hand is amazing. The software of the s2 has gotten pretty stale thanks to samsung and their ICS implementation just blows. A lot of guys were still on GB even when ICS came out. The GN is still a mixed bag for me, maybe by the time the next iteration of android comes out it'll pay off.
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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And after 444 posts you still don't understand what is to put in the "Android Developement" section? That's Amazing man!!
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+1 it's truly amazing how many people cannot read or follow rules/directions.
Pretty sure this Development section is the wrong place for an opinions thread.
To not seem like a jerk though, I'll share. I had an SG2, my GNex battery lasts on avg 35 hours with normal texting/facebook/calls. with gaming still get around 18hours.
I HATED the lag in screen wake with the SG2. (it's due to the way SG2 goes into deep sleep)
& Screen brightness? Honestly, I never have the brightness more than 60% unless showing off pictures.
Woops didnt mean that sorry . Mods if you'd kindly move my thread now before everyone flames my ass: )
Yeah one of the reasons why i wanted to switch my s2 was the wake up lag and the annoying home button lag . Seems allsamsung branded phones come with this now.
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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Dai323 said:
I had an htc sensation and a galaxy s2 before getting my Nexus, and all I can say is this: Root your nexus, install Aokp, foxhound, gummy, liquid, or paranoid (paranoid =coolest rom EVER) rom, install popcorn kernel and overclock to 1,4 , use root toolkit to increase camera quality to high, and then tell me if your still not happy with your Nexus :-D
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I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
zephiK said:
I'm not happy that you said use toolkit. People need to start learning how to root / do things without the toolkit.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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That's the easiest and fastest way of doing it. What's the point of doing it differently if its going to take you longer and still gives you the same results? Just because you know more about Android than others, doesn't make you better than everyone else in here.
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Not being funny but that's how You like you'r fone set up, don't mean he's gonna like it too
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The point is that person is understanding the process of what rooting is. In the long run, it'll be better for them rather than making a new thread asking the same questions.
I never said I was better than anybody. People take things for granted, I've started using Android since the G1 days where we had to obtain root via typing things in terminal emulator / ADB to obtain root. Not use a toolkit. Having root access and flashing ROMs/kernels/radios is a valuable step in Android, it can't be spoon fed to you. The person has to put some effort into knowing what their doing. Otherwise they'll just make a bunch of threads asking the same questions because they didn't know what the toolkit was doing. Same concept goes for mathematics and science. If you don't know how the formula is derived then you're just walking in the dark.
If installing drivers for your phone then typing,
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
is too difficult for them to understand then they shouldn't be rooting and tinkering with their phone. It is Android 101, if they dont understand the basics of ADB / fastboot then they will have problems in the long run and keep saying that their phone is bricked because they don't understand the process of fastboot flashing back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 8 pages here... for the most part they agree with the point I made here.
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I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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Dai323 said:
I also started in the G1 days, and have had 7 or 8 phones and 2 tablets. I know how to use Odin, fastboot, ect. Yeah, knowing those methods is of course great, but not relevant to what the OP is talking about right now. Having the toolkit available is another reason why I like the Nexus so much, and if he's saying he a not happy in general with the Nexus, difficult or more complex rooting methods won't help convince him otherwise.
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All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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You both have valid points here...but this thread still needs to be moved
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then report the thread so a moderator can move it.
done
zephiK said:
All of this is relevant. Especially when YOU told the OP to start flashing his phone etc etc. What made you think the OP is a person that likes to be flashing ROMs? He could be one of those individuals who feels that the GN is good as the way it is and wants to leave it stock and leave future updates in the hands of Google?
If anyone starts flashing their phone they should ALWAYS know the common knowledge of how to fastboot and use ADB. It is a absolute NECESSITY, especially if people are having problems with their phones. The cause of this is because people are unaware of what's going on because they're using a toolkit.
Galaxy Nexus (and other Nexus devices) are not hard to root/unlock bootloader compared to other phones. Drivers, fastboot oem unlock, flash custom recovery.
Other phones you have to do so much more.. take a look at Motorola.
That's like saying if a friend asked you for the solution to a math problem. Would you feed him the answer? No. Guide him in the right direction to learn and expand his mind. It's not that difficult. The hardest part of rooting a Galaxy Nexus is getting the drivers installed. And if you have a Mac, that's even easier. No drivers needed.
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Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
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No. Just...no.
hp13 said:
Toolkit is the greatest and best way to root. forget about other methods. simpler is always better. end results are same. i don't need to know what the process is behind rooting ...i used toolkit enough times and had no issues at all. thanks to Dev for simpler method.
so accept it that toolkit is better. just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know. sure you used G1 and followed harder methods but reality is that now we have toolkit so why bother using other methods?
ThANKS
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Ease of convenience does not always make for better solutions. Short cuts don't always work out so well and if your going to be modifying your device why not take the time to learn the correct methods? But on the other hand, to each their own.
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hp13 said:
just cause you know the steps behind rooting doesn't mean everyone needs to know.
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Correct but if you plan on rooting it you most definitely should know the steps behind it.
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seriously? who cares how people root their phone...go outside.
and yeah op, the gnex is pretty sweet for roms and mods, but yeah the s2 has some better attributes then the nexus

New To Android, but bricked my phone?

Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
When you rooted did you NANDROID backup ? If not go into recovery and clear cache and then go into advanced and wipe delvik cache. reboot
If that fails go back into recovery and do a factory reset and you should be ok.
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Well i think it is. I rooted my phone last night and installed the beats drivers from the Play Store. Shortly, it froze and went straight to the Samsung logo. I can still go into both recovery and download mode, but what do I do after that? I've heard about Odin....but how do i exactly put the custom roms into my phone, and which ones? And if any one can point me to a guide or tutorial, ill be extremely relieved. I'm new to the website as well as android, so if anyone could please help me out, thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727401
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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I disagree as long as you are willing to learn from the mistake all is good. I had a Samsung Exhibit II and deleted touch wiz launched (I was using go launcher) later I would do a factory reset and well... learned that system files do not get restored when you do a factory reset...oops
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I agree, we all were NOOBS at some point. That's the one thing I love about XDA is that with patience and the help of the users any noob can learn how to mod their devices. One piece of advice that I can offer is before you do any type of modding is READ and keep on READING. I have bricked the first device I ever rooted because I did not READ the forums as they are meant to be read.
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This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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not fair
z0phi3l said:
This is why noobs shouldn't be rooting, hell I'm on my 4th android phone and I'm still holding off on rooting it. And I was constantly popping new ROMS on my Vibrant, never bricked any phone
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Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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touchdownadrian said:
Thanks guys, it worked. And my bad for not reading alot, im kinda new to this lol
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It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
TheSeanTeam said:
It's not the noobs who shouldn't be rooting... It's the lazy and careless who should stick to stock. If you are careful and diligent, rooting and all the good stuff that comes with it is easy and rewarding.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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I whole-heartily agree, I was a freshman noob August 1st this year, by August 4th I was flashing like a pro. Left and right, ROMs, Kernels, Modifying system files, you name it. I wanted to streamline my phone and future proof it somewhat by overclocking. I spent 3 days researching and educating myself, finding the best ROMs, weighing pros and cons, and when it came time to flash, I was on my PC all day making sure whatever I did wouldn't brick me. I carefully analyzed and learned about virtually all methods of flashing by watching tons of videos and reading a bunch of tutorials by several sources. I MD5 checksum'd every zip to be flashed on my phone using an app (to ensure download and transfer was successful). I must have verified that the files I was preparing to flash were indeed for my device make and model about a dozen times before ever touching a button. When I went to flash over my first custom Kernel (even though I had already flashed 2 custom ROMs shortly before that), on that last button my hands were literally shaking, I could not afford a second Galaxy S III. Everything went beautifully, all of my careful planning and hours of invested research payed off. I had done everything right and was rewarded with better battery life (about +50% on heavy load and +500% on idle) and performance (+25%).
My girlfriend also has a Galaxy s3 and she wanted the same performance I was getting. I flashed the exact same software to her device I had to mine, no changes.
Total time invested in flash on my device: 36 hours, at least
Total time invested in flash on her device: 1 hour... if that
The bottom line is yes, if you're not willing to put forth the effort and educate yourself first, you probably shouldn't be doing this. There are guides and tutorials out there for noobs and I would recommend you go there first until you know your way around your device. That way at least you have a little experience on your belt before you start doing anything too advanced (I did this when I was rooting my device for the first time).
As a side note, I know there are a lot of people out there worried about doing anything that could potentially brick their device. That is always a real possibility, I'm not going to lie to you, it happens more often than you think. However in just about every case of bricking you'll ever hear about, it's usually someone flashing something they're not suppose to, like a ROM designed for a different make and model of device, or something experimental that wasn't ready yet. Do all your homework (from multiple corroborating sources) before you undergo a flash and as long as you do everything "by the book" (so to speak) and don't rush through things by being lazy, you should be fine. Some even flash nightlies (yeah they're called that for a reason, updated versions of the ROM they currently have) EVERY NIGHT!!! In the end when you have an android device, you have an open source platform at your fingertips and you should take advantage of that, it would be a waste not to. If not, your next device might as well be an iPhone. They're great for noobs and as long as you're ok drinking whatever punch Apple gives you, they're pretty much impossible to brick since you can't do a whole lot with them. Apple will be happy to take your money and stiff you with closed source for it.
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Same here. It took me months of researching on my vibrant before flashing my first rom (bionix 1.6 by teamwhiskey). As I progressed, I did brick left and right but I always managed to bring it back to life with my prior knowledge. Now I'm eagerly waiting for my computer to be done downloading the root files and get started.
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Cr vibe said:
Dude the vibrant is bullet proof . Now HTC that's a mother.
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+++++++1 on that.... DAMN talk about headaches....
dmarco said:
Yea, not cool dude..remember that WE were all NOOBS at some point in time, therefore we should support and help one another. As for what to do next, follow "Saldebot's" instructions and you should be fine. Sounds like it's only a soft brick. Just keep reading and learning as much as you can bud.
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Yeah one of the only other IMPORTANT thinks i could add would be always do a factory reset before flashing roms.. some people like to flash "dirty" i wouldnt recommend it cause you will ALWAYS have issues maybe not in a hour but guaranteed you will... but knowledge is power dude.. i two read for about 36 hours before rooting my phone.. i rooted my wifes phone days after a rooted mine back in the day it only took like 15 mins.. another thing let phone sit 10 mins before ya play with it... gotta let the cache settle... the ten min wait is well worth it.. ive been doing it that way since the vibrant bro.. happy flashing and welcome..
I read constantly things change hourly like when that new leaked kernels came out for sgs2 and the emmc was trashed never to come back from a brick again. To anyone that cares if you love your phone read more than just the root and flash stuff learn what makes your phone tick from the factory hardware software and added crap from your carrier it all play's a part in the end result. Its as easy as you make it.
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Omg I LOVED THE VIBRANT! Restoring it from a brick was a piece of cake
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Ive passed down two vibrants (both rooted) to my sons so they can learn to flash roms and everything else that comes from the joys of root.
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To root, or not to root. Solos' Long journey to finding his fate.

Yeah pretty much sums it up. I rooted my first note 2 everything was fine then all of a sudden i installed a kernel and it would take 12 hours to charge to full from fulll empty. and about 15 min to even turn on. ever since then i cracked the screen and got a replacement. kinda liking it stock. but kinda wana root it again. only thing stopping me is that i dont want anything to happen to this phone. I DUNNO WHAT TO DO. any suggestions?
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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janjannsen99 said:
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Whether or not you should root your phone is completely up to you. If you like stock, leave it stock. You don't have to go around flashing new kernels or ROMs if you're satisfied with stock. I rooted it because I wanted tethering and unlimited multiwindows... I have the stock kernel and stock ROM but deodexed with a few mods that I like. There are a ton of awesome ROMs out there but I'm not trying to win a popularity/nerd contest as to who can make the most changes to their phones. Make your phone the way you want it and what you want out of it.
Pretty much what i'm saying is are you happy with your phone right now? what would you change about it and is it possible to do this easily?
I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I felt the same way. .till I rooted and flashed jedi x!!!! Sooooo much better. ... I'm so happy with my phone now
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ONLY ROOT!
Hands Down. You Have To Root.
AOKP, CMX.1, AOSP LiquidSmooth Are All Available Now.
Good Luck.
It's just that you're thread doesn't say anything. I mean it's like asking if the sky is light blue or kinda blue. I mean you could have at least had a halfway good question....bah I'm not even going any further. I quit
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I personally don't see enough evidence for trolling but I think it was the literary license you took with "Solos' Long journey to finding his fate" that raised the troll alert for some. Had you merely titled it "To root, or not to root" you may have had less suspicions (but who am I to tell you how to express yourself.. some of us tend to be more or less tolerant than others & I found value in your thread)..
You may want to check out my thread as I too was exploring the "to root, or not root" debate given how remarkable the Note2 is. As I mentioned there I honestly am very happy with the all the customization available in Go Launcher over stock TW & so far satisfied with the battery life which prompted the need debate but I also think I should be able to tether wirelessly with my data allotment on occasion & check out Titanium backup & all Avast options that require root so I will likely root-update this weekend as I want zero downtime during the week. I do appreciate the stability I'm currently experiencing so if that becomes compromised I am trusting posters here that its full unroot option would enable easy reversibility. I also currently have Monthly4G™ Handset Protection but hopefully I won't ever have to use it. -Peace

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