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T-Mobile or AT&T?

So there's s3 at T-Mobile but not att? Is it worth going to T-Mobile from.att?
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Switching Carriers over some launch availability issues? Devices are out there now in pretty decent numveds , Best Buy is selling them over the counter today as well.
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I have t-mobile, but if I had att I wouldn't switch just because of handset availability.
If you are out of contract you should weigh the pros and cons of each in terms of coverage in your area, pricing of comparable plans to satisfy your needs, and THEN device selection.
Plus if you wait a lil longer you can maybe get your hands on the red version!

You realise you can get the AT&T GS3 overnighted to you. You just have to call up and ask for one.

I have a new line with the one x and I'm within my 30 days maybe I'll just see if bb has them. I would switch carriers based on horrible service that att has
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I wouldn't switch.. far as I know ( and correct me if I'm wrong ) the T-Mobile version of the SGSIII does NOT have LTE !! To me, that would be a waste.
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LordGeek said:
I wouldn't switch.. far as I know ( and correct me if I'm wrong ) the T-Mobile version of the SGSIII does NOT have LTE !! To me, that would be a waste.
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It has badass hspa+ (42mbps) though which can just as fast as lte depending on location. And it doesnt kill battery like lte, so id say the tmo version is a great option..
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T-Mobile is cheaper in the long run, and HSPA 41 is faster than any LTE available

z0phi3l said:
T-Mobile is cheaper in the long run, and HSPA 41 is faster than any LTE available
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Really?
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z0phi3l said:
T-Mobile is cheaper in the long run, and HSPA 41 is faster than any LTE available
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lol i don't know about that.. depending on your att plan and the fact that the t-mo s3 is 80 dollars more than the other 3 carriers
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zaisaroni said:
Switching Carriers over some launch availability issues? Devices are out there now in pretty decent numveds , Best Buy is selling them over the counter today as well.
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LOL, Best Buy is not selling AT&T Galaxy S3's over the counter! I dont know where you have heard that, but you definitely haven't been following either of the 2 Official Best Buy Galaxy S3 threads.
If Best Buy does have them in stock for AT&T, which is a HUGE IF, they are saying they cannot sell them because AT&T has not announced an official release date/launch date. I know, that makes not sense and is a huge lie, but that is what they are saying.
So NO, Best Buy is not selling AT&T Galaxy S3's over the counter.

id10terrordfw said:
Really?
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Thank you .. LMAO
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3rdamention said:
LOL, Best Buy is not selling AT&T Galaxy S3's over the counter! I dont know where you have heard that, but you definitely haven't been following either of the 2 Official Best Buy Galaxy S3 threads.
If Best Buy does have them in stock for AT&T, which is a HUGE IF, they are saying they cannot sell them because AT&T has not announced an official release date/launch date. I know, that makes not sense and is a huge lie, but that is what they are saying.
So NO, Best Buy is not selling AT&T Galaxy S3's over the counter.
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Bull because I bought mine last Thursday at Best Buy without a pre order. Lafayette LA store.

LordGeek said:
Thank you .. LMAO
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It would be nice if at&t LTE could run in 20MHz of spectrum everywhere... but it can't. 49Mbps is far few and inbetween for at&t LTE
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heygrl said:
It would be nice if at&t LTE could run in 20MHz of spectrum everywhere... but it can't. 49Mbps is far few and inbetween for at&t LTE
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You're right, I normally hit just 40 mbit down all over Fort Worth, including downtown.
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Why do I only get like low 20s with tmo and high 40 s with AT&T then lol horrible indeed......
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20 mbs Down is fast enough... Specially if your are paying 50 a months like I am
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Screaming Ball Sweat said:
So there's s3 at T-Mobile but not att? Is it worth going to T-Mobile from.att?
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Tmo unlocked will work for sure with att hspa +, it's unknown if they can make that happen with the Att version.
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murdermonkey9000 said:
Tmo unlocked will work for sure with att hspa +, it's unknown if they can make that happen with the Att version.
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It will not work with att version
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At&t galaxy s3 to T-Mobile help

I got my unlocked s3 so I can use it on T-Mobile and hate edge so I was wondering if flashing the blaze modem would allow me to get 4g like the at&t galaxy note did.
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Blaze is a .gs2, it would probably brick. I wouldn't risk it. If anything I'd try the t-mobile .gs3 radio.
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I need to know if someone has done this and gotten it to work the tmo gs3 modem if the blaze doesnt
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horr1blek1tten said:
I got my unlocked s3 so I can use it on T-Mobile and hate edge so I was wondering if flashing the blaze modem would allow me to get 4g like the at&t galaxy note did.
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I been thinking...instead of messing with all that and end up with a brick, why just not sell it on ebay and buy an actual Tmobile one or maybe trade with someone willing to. I would look at the selling price for an AT&T GS3 on ebay and how much would a Tmobile run and if it's not that much difference then pay the difference than end up with a possible brick. Plus I have read some forums where if you flash some things that are not meant for your phone you can even mess up the IME on your phone with no way to flash it back at the moment until someone comes up with a solution for it.

Not trying to be a jerk. Just a friendly reminder that this is not development related and needs to be in general or QA. I would repost there and report your thread to a moderator before the pitch forks come out.
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When I put my friends note to t mobile it was the modem you had to flash , if your set on doing it , read a bunch on ways to do the note WITHOUT a custom Rom then find the same files you use in that ( the modem and if I remember right there was one other thing ) then go to the t mobile section in the sgs 3 thread and ask for help finding those files , but do a lot of reading first cause it would be a shame to brick your awesome phone
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lessthanzach said:
Not trying to be a jerk. Just a friendly reminder that this is not development related and needs to be in general or QA. I would repost there and report your thread to a moderator before the pitch forks come out.
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I thought this was development?
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I'm also interested in getting HSPA+ 21.1 speeds on my unlocked AT&T GS3 on my tmobile network...any suggestions?

Jonnyredcorn said:
I'm also interested in getting HSPA+ 21.1 speeds on my unlocked AT&T GS3 on my tmobile network...any suggestions?
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buy the t-mobile version. it doesn't work hardware not supported

im looking into this as well, i had the att note and flashed the tmobile modem worked like a charm so now im looking to do same with s3. if i find anything ill let you know

I don't thonk it will work at all. Att's S3 is LTE, correct. Tmobiles is not. Two different hw radios used.
If you do try it please post your results for others!
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If a solution for this is found I'll definitely be buying a red GS3 soon.

Classick206 said:
If a solution for this is found I'll definitely be buying a red GS3 soon.
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I seriously wouldnt count on it. The two networks run on different technologies. Im pretty sure the hw is different due to this.
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Have you guys tried the radios in the dev section by wildchld? I'm not sure it will work either but maybe worth a try. It has a script that backs up current radio and you can revert back. Atleast on T-Mobile s3 it does. Just need to reflash the restore zip to go back to previous radio. Again try at your own risk. There's a huge chance you can brick your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30355162
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Tmobile is reframing the network. Soon after this year att iphones will get 3g 4g from tmobile.just wait for.it
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DocHoliday77 said:
I don't thonk it will work at all. Att's S3 is LTE, correct. Tmobiles is not. Two different hw radios used.
If you do try it please post your results for others!
I don't think it matters if the Gs3 from T-Mobile doesn't have LTE, I used to have my Galaxy s2 skyrocket with LTE running on T-Mobile 3G/4G off a GS2 Hercules Modem.
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Then by all means, give it a shot. I have no problem being proven wrong on stuff like this!
Just remember that was a different phone. And tmobiles radio Im pretty sure was confirmed to NOT support LTE. So they are different.
I'm definately looking forward to hearing someones results after trying! Just do some research on the two radios, and make sure the sw modem is on the same partition for each phone. (I think it will be. But if its not you could end up with serious problems)
Good luck to whomever tries it!
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Probably won't, the T-Mobile phone is pentaband so it will run 3/4G on AT&T, but their version isn't. Try it though.
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jason4962 said:
Tmobile is reframing the network. Soon after this year att iphones will get 3g 4g from tmobile.just wait for.it
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T-Mobile doesn't have 4G. The iPhone will get HSPA.
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joshnichols189 said:
T-Mobile doesn't have 4G. The iPhone will get HSPA.
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Not yet they don't. But as he said tmobile is refarming their entire network in preparation for LTE rollout next year.
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GS3 Tmobile LTE capable?

So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?

androidcactus said:
So I was in a tmobile store today and was told that both the note II and Gs3 will receive a software patch to enable the lte radio. Asked the question like 10 different ways as I've read online that the gs3 will NOT be let cab able.
the internal phone workings are a little above my head...but i was told that the tmobile sg3 is the same as say the att model which does have the lte radio,
So, does that sound right that the SG3 is future proof and will be able to enable LTE?
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The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx

androidcactus said:
The question I should have asked is if they are shipping different GS3's for tmobile now? But regardless they were so confident that it will (LTE) be enabled...wanted to ask the experts thx
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when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
BOOM :highfive:

cobraboy85 said:
when i worked at t mobile we were told that the galaxy s3 for t mobile has LTE radios, and that the device will support the LTE rollout. this was straight from corporate.
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and that was from day 1? Obviously there has been debate about this on this forum and people much smarter than I have agued that it will never get LTE...
do you remember if there is something that has to be enabled? Or if say where I live they activate the LTE tower, boom it will work?

Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Its been a while so I dont remember the details, but I am convinced that
1. We will NOTget LTE one our GS3.
2. It doesn't really matter. By the time the majority of us get LTE in our market, we will have moved on to an even better phone! Also, most of us will get hspa+42 soon which for now is more than sufficient for almost everyones needs.
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I think these threads need to be shut down. There are a number of other threads exactly like this that holds the correct information. Thanks Doc

I agree with Doc, we'll probably be on better phones by the time we have decent LTE reception -- and I'm happy enough with the DC-HSPA+ modem.
IMHO, they will likely release a Galaxy S3 [4G] LTE as an interm between the S3 and the S4. WRT LTE, all I know is what I see on Wikipedia's snapdragon article. Which isn't very clear on details. Also numerous MSM8960 phones /w LTE exist but do we even know if it's on die, let along bothering to crack open an AT&T and T-Mobile GS3 for a little hardware compare?

So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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rawdaddymagraden said:
So afye reading this I have a question.... if you guys are saying that our phones arent capable then why on my phone (running frosty jb v7) are there 2 system apps called LTESettings.apk and LTETest.apk??? Are these not for our phone and are just ther e due to it being a port? And if so can I safely remove them so they are taking away ram and battery? Thanks in advanced
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They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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elesbb said:
They serve no purpose to our devices so yes you can remove them. Just in case, make a backup first. Like move them to memory card or something.
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Thanks I did so w/o issues
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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Crisisx1 said:
By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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It is dependent upon wether we have the hardware included I believe.
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Samsung would only fail if they didn't include lte hardware in the new galaxy s4 especially because it's being released after tmobile starts rolling out lte which is February 2013
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Maybe I am the only one. LTE is not very efficient. I am happy with 3g+++.Tmo 3g super sized is a very good system. My company provided LTE hot spot sucks bandwidth like no other. Be careful what you ask for.

Seems to me T-Mobile GS3 will be receiving LTE

The question is when ?
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That option has been there for ever when you access it via the secret code.
And I don't think the s3 is lte equipped
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As far as I know sg3 doesn't have lte radio
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It wasn't here before this JB update. It used to only be wcdma or GSM. This has to of been added for a reason
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It wasn't here before this JB update. It used to only be wcdma or GSM. This has to of been added for a reason
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+1 lets hope! I know in atlanta Verizon lte speeds average 30-35 MBPS
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Its there becsuse sammy built the same JB base for all the carriers.
Seriously, dont get your hopes up for this. It has been discussed a lot in the past and our hw will not support LTE.
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And with the gs3 pulling anywhere from 16 to 24 mbps I can only imagine how lte is gonna treat us
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OP, are listening or ignoring the people who keep saying that our S3 doesn't have an LTE radio?
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Don_Perrignon said:
OP, are listening or ignoring the people who keep saying that our S3 doesn't have an LTE radio?
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I'm listening of course I just have a different opinion
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Just like everyone else, ive been wrong before, and it would be awesome if I am this time. I just dont think it does a lot of good to speculate either way when the rollout doesnt even start till next year and most of us wont see it till a year after that
It just seems to serve to confuse people and get their hopes up when it probably wont even work with this phone.
Also, a number of people have unlocked the T999 for use on Sprint and Verizon and are not able to get LTE. Just sayin. Im leaving it at that though.
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the nice thing about MSM8960 SOC board is that the radios can be programmed to virtually any current GSM, HSPA or LTE frequency in use in the United States today. the board has a RAT lock on it and not sure if it can be unlocked but all GS3's support any of the three frequency's. now if any one knows how to unlock and program them thats another story.. and just cause the software has a setting doesnt mean tmobile put it in there. and with the gs4 launching in feb-mar im not to sure they would even update the gs3. every one wants lte and if you have to buy a new phone to get it then thats how they make money.

Well I have talk to several people from samsung and tmobile and they said that the s3 is capable of the LTE, but you can't use them till the end of this year and beginning of 2013 .I hope this is true, if you guys don't believed me ask Samsung or T-Mobile and I try 5 times different people and they all told me the same ....
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To add to this... if you go on the app manager in the setting.. and go on the all apps.. u ll notice these 2 apps
Com.test.LTEfunctionality.. and com.test.LTEtestmodesetting.
Explain this
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Djapatos said:
To add to this... if you go on the app manager in the setting.. and go on the all apps.. u ll notice these 2 apps
Com.test.LTEfunctionality.. and com.test.LTEtestmodesetting.
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This is probably because they use the same build for all 4 models and it's easier to leave it in since 3 carriers carry it?
But anyways the s2 Hercules also had that option, but the hardware didn't allow it.
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Seriously I could care less about LTE. First off, I get great speeds with hspa, second, by the time LTE has arrived I will have already moved on to another phone that supports LTE.
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By the time lte does roll out... The galaxy s4 will be out and most of us will switch to it. And I'm pretty sure the s4 will support lte
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myb

A simple Google search will show that this model of the S3 does not have an lte radio.
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I dont' think they would pull out the LTE radio from thew chip just for T-mobile so I'm sure it's there BUT, T-mobile as being plain greedy of all companies across world has to release their Long Term Evolution Network on band NOT supported by S3 they will make more money on new phones possible Galaxy S3 Rocket or whatever

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I'm listening of course I just have a different opinion
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Well thats your opinion. THere is no reason to post a thread about an opinion with zero information backing it up. It is quite rude of you actually. DocHoliday has been telling everyone that there is no possible way for our phone to support LTE. And why does he say this? Well because thats his opinion, but he has it backed by very simple to understand hardware specs. LTE is a total separate radio then the standard GSM that our device has. So unless they release a new S3 for T-Mobile, then the S3 will never see LTE. There is no amount of software hacking that will put a hardware component into a device. And every T-Mobile person i have asked confirmed the S3 will NOT support LTE. SO EVERYONE just leave it already.
What really annoys me is how you decided you just had to create a whole separate thread about this which has been discussed hundreds of times. you have an opinion great, post in a thread that already exists.
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This is probably because they use the same build for all 4 models and it's easier to leave it in since 3 carriers carry it?
But anyways the s2 Hercules also had that option, but the hardware didn't allow it.
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Was just about to say this. Thanks Teo!

T-Mobile will launch refreshed Galaxy S III with LTE support

Source: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/38...aunch-refreshed-galaxy-s-iii-with-lte-support
At a CES briefing today, T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray revealed to The Verge that the company will launch a refreshed version of Samsung's wildly popular Galaxy S III that features support for its upcoming LTE network — a network that has now been confirmed to launch commercially any week now. It's not yet known whether the phone will be marketed as a new, distinct model or as a silent and unadvertised swap on store shelves.
Though the Galaxy S III that's presently being offered by T-Mobile does not support LTE, the slightly newer Galaxy Note II does; Ray tells us that it'll require a "small" software update to enable it once it's available. No other LTE-capable phones have been announced by T-Mobile yet, but it's likely that we'll see some announcements as the first markets go live across the first and second quarter of the year.
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What are the chances that this is really just the T999? If its really a brand new model (T999LTE / T1000 / T:silly::silly::silly, how many of you would sell your current T999 and upgrade?
Other good reads:
T-Mobile may launch LTE in Las Vegas this month
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3852194/t-mobile-may-launch-lte-in-las-vegas-this-month
T-Mobile Galaxy Note II has dormant LTE support, may require software update
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/25/3554328/t-mobile-galaxy-note-ii-lte-support

T999L - We've been hearing bits and pieces about it (Mostly speculation) for a little while now. Nice to have some confirmation though.
Edit: And if the LTE happens to cover my area, you can bet that I'll sell my T999 and get a T999L
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Thetenthdr said:
T999L - We've been hearing bits and pieces about it (Mostly speculation) for a little while now. Nice to have some confirmation though.
Edit: And if the LTE happens to cover my area, you can bet that I'll sell my T999 and get a T999L
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for what? lte consumes more power and isnt any faster than what youre already using. in fact, some would argue it is slower...

...and the Vibrant story repeats itself. T-mobile sure loves doing this. At least my unlocked T999 is ready to switch when I get the money to do so.

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...and the Vibrant story repeats itself. T-mobile sure loves doing this. At least my unlocked T999 is ready to switch when I get the money to do so.
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Amen brother, I hope we keep the development though like the vibrant did though
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Hell no I'm not upgrading lol.
S4 baby
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mrmako777 said:
for what? lte consumes more power and isnt any faster than what youre already using. in fact, some would argue it is slower...
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I doubt it will be slower than this. Granted, this is worse than usual, but still...
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I doubt it will be slower than this. Granted, this is worse than usual, but still...
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Wow, that's horrible. I get around 15mbps download.
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Towle said:
Wow, that's horrible. I get around 15mbps download.
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Yeah... and I'm supposedly in an excellent coverage area.

Thetenthdr said:
I doubt it will be slower than this. Granted, this is worse than usual, but still...
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well dude, youre on edge. 2 soup cans with a string in the middle is faster if youre not getting "4g" now, doubt you would be getting lte in the future...

mrmako777 said:
well dude, youre on edge. 2 soup cans with a string in the middle is faster if youre not getting "4g" now, doubt you would be getting lte in the future...
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Let me dream dammit! Lol
But seriously, that's why I said "If it happens to cover my area". I know it likely wont, but hey, who knows. I can already almost throw a rock and hit an HSPA+ 42 coverage area.

This is exactly what turns me off about the galaxy line in the US. I thought maybe they'd change with all the carriers having similar phones now, but no. Ill keep my s3 until its paid off then I'm probably going tontrybsomething else.
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I think it's best to wait for the S4 or another flagship phone.

I pass. You're not getting my money T-Mobile. Cant you just release lte modem for us. Gezzzz
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x1tyme said:
I pass. You're not getting my money T-Mobile. Cant you just release lte modem for us. Gezzzz
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I dont think its that simple, I believe you need the hardware as well as the modem firmware, just flashing the modem could potentially brick your phone.

I get like 1.6 megs down already. It's more than fast enough.

I think I'm good.
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I'm good with mine. I get almost 20 megs in the dallas metro plex. Tmobile could had the lte turned off like the note 2 and they turn it on when it was available. But they decided to make more money with a new release like the vibrant.

Towle said:
I think I'm good.
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I get very similar speeds.
No way in he** am I upgrading to the same phone with similar speeds if not worse and more of a battery drain. Very happy where I am at.
Some of ya....well must have money to burn or just don't realize....lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!

I guess once this phone is released, there needs to be a detailed teardown (anandtech / ifixit) that compares the old T999 with the new T999L.
Hopefully there are no hardware differences, and everything is firmware/rom related.
If there are hardware differences, maybe we can start frankensteining a broken T999L (i.e. cracked screens etc) with a working T999 LOL