Since I purchased the phone in October I figured it was normal to NOT be able to talk and use your data... Wifi worked fine but I could never browse when I am on a call (4g etc), which was frustrating while trying to use maps. My phone was literally the first in the door at my store.
This was pre-root, and even now after Root and custom (Jedi Rom). Other than that my phone works flawless, not problems ever.
Now I may have to flash to stock rom, Reset my counter and unroot my device (such a hassle)
I am on the Monthly 4G plan with T-mo ($60)
Suggestions?
Any basic tests should I run?
Can Technical service tell I am rooted if I call them up?
Are you sure you're not on EDGE?
EDGE doesn't support simultaneous voice and data.
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this since I've been able to talk and use data even since the G1 days. I thought the only one who couldn't do that was Verizon.
Are you sure you were on EDGE back in those days?
Do a little Google search, there's hundreds of pages saying the same thing. There's even an ATT FAQ addressing it.
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This is the first time I've ever heard of this since I've been able to talk and use data even since the G1 days. I thought the only one who couldn't do that was Verizon.
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+1 been doing it since the mt3g phone after the g1 if you don't know lol I think its funny seeing those lame at&t iPhone commercials talking about surfing the web and talking at the same time... Been doing it for years you guys are a little behind lol
Was able to do this back on my g2x, usually be able to use Internet for couple minutes while on a call and then I guess the network would eventually "catch me" and it would stop working..
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Nice working just fine for me, stock un rooted. I thought AT&T was the only company that had this?
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Nice working just fine for me, stock un rooted. I thought AT&T was the only company that had this?
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Not to be a jerk but made me laugh lol we've had this for many many years.... I'm sure it worked with the g1 can't confirm cause I didn't own it but it worked with the original mytouch3g basically a g1 with no keyboard. Been talking on speaker and googling at the same time for years... Can even use the multi window and talk and surf if you wish to do it that way ...
I always thought the difference was in the technology the carrier used,
it was my impression that companies that relied on CDMA technologies, such as sprint, verizon, boost, etc, couldn't, but GSM companies could, i.e. at&t, t-mobile.
either way, if it never worked for me, i would just flash the stock rom available in the forums and hop on the phone to have a nice long conversation about what we would do to rectify this situation.
You're all missing the point, all the phones you're talking about are 3g phones, Even the venerable old G1 was 3g.
3g phones can talk and data at the same time as long as the data is on the 3g network. If you're in an area without any data service available besides edge, you will not be able to talk and do data simultaneously, whatever phone you have. That's true on any GSM network, unless you have some kind of phone that has multiple radios.
The reason the original non 3g iPhone could not do voice and data simultaneously was because it didn't have 3g. It was an edge only device. Nothing to do with being AT&T or anything like that. CDMA phones have some more limitations until the recent inclusion of multiple radios in the device, which I think started with the Thunderbolt.
The original iPhone was an amazing device for its time, big screen, no keyboard. I was happy to have one for years, but when the Nexus One came out Android has pulled studly ahead and never looked back.
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Yup. Even the g1 that I had could talk and use data at the same time. I was excited when I got the g2 because it had 4g ...until I realized the location I had moved to only got edge. Lol.
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You're all missing the point, all the phones you're talking about are 3g phones, Even the venerable old G1 was 3g.
3g phones can talk and data at the same time as long as the data is on the 3g network. If you're in an area without any data service available besides edge, you will not be able to talk and do data simultaneously, whatever phone you have. That's true on any GSM network, unless you have some kind of phone that has multiple radios.
The reason the original non 3g iPhone could not do voice and data simultaneously was because it didn't have 3g. It was an edge only device. Nothing to do with being AT&T or anything like that. CDMA phones have some more limitations until the recent inclusion of multiple radios in the device, which I think started with the Thunderbolt.
The original iPhone was an amazing device for its time, big screen, no keyboard. I was happy to have one for years, but when the Nexus One came out Android has pulled studly ahead and never looked back.
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Yes we know we are talking about 3g phones android had it right to begin with unlike apple... I did though have the first iPhone till I dropped it and half the screen decided to stop working... Lame crap! all in all we could talk and surf web for a long time and when phones were made with only edge there was not many devices that had worthy web browsing capabilities anyway. Don't think I'll ever go to CDMA I enjoy my sim cards and not relying on calling customer service to switch phones...
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Not to be a jerk but made me laugh lol we've had this for many many years.... I'm sure it worked with the g1 can't confirm cause I didn't own it but it worked with the original mytouch3g basically a g1 with no keyboard. Been talking on speaker and googling at the same time for years... Can even use the multi window and talk and surf if you wish to do it that way ...
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You're not being a jerk I could care less everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Other then my GS3 I've only ever used iPhones with TMobile, and running on edge I know for a fact that never worked because I've tried it. This is the first time I tried it since I've been away from the iPhone
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Yes we know we are talking about 3g phones android had it right to begin with unlike apple... I did though have the first iPhone till I dropped it and half the screen decided to stop working... Lame crap! all in all we could talk and surf web for a long time and when phones were made with only edge there was not many devices that had worthy web browsing capabilities anyway. Don't think I'll ever go to CDMA I enjoy my sim cards and not relying on calling customer service to switch phones...
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The G1, the first Android powered phone, wasn't released until 15 months after the first iPhone; it better have done things better with that much longer time to market, don't you think? iPhone users were happily using large screen, thin form factor phones for a very long time while Android was just a dream. Your also not up to speed on VZW's current phones it seems. While they do use CDMA for the voice, the data side of the phone is GSM (LTE), and you no longer need to call customer service to switch your phone as long as you're on an LTE device, which all their newer phones are. I routinely swap SIMs among multiple VZW phones, it works just like GSM, number and account go with the SIM, not the phone.
You're still missing the point. The original post complains of not being able to talk and data simultaneously. I asked if he was sure he wasn't on EDGE, then the thread devolved into a bunch of "iPhone and AT&T sucks because my old 3G phone has always been able to do voice and data simultaneously." Totally irrelevant, even if you think iPhone and AT&T suck, because it has nothing to do with the original problem. Great, your old G1 did talk/data same time, how does that help the OP fix his problem?
As for all the Apple/AT&T hate from others, whatever blows your skirt up, I guess. AT&T has its faults, and its wins. Their network is a hell of a lot better at pushing a signal into every large building/mall/structure I go to here in Los Angeles' suburbs; most of them I get ZERO signal with my T-Mo Note 2. Verizon beats both, you pay a premium, but if you need a signal, VZW is best at getting it to you. I have high-end active phones on all three networks, and often do side-by-side compares. In my office building in Santa Clarita I have to use my VZW GS3 as a hotspot to get data flowing to my Note 2!
Re: the iPhone original being EDGE only. As I recall, in 2006 when the iPhone was being developed, and in 2007 when it was launched, 3G was only in a few major markets; releasing a 3G phone then would only have benefited a lesser portion of the customer. Apple tends to play it safe on a newer, more power hungry technologies to save battery. It's a design choice that most of their customers are happy with.
Anyways, back to the original post, technical support can tell you're on a different ROM if they ask questions about software details from the About screen and they don't match what the non-root phone should have.
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
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whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
This is something I just discovered the other day and it kinda bugged me out cause as far as I knew data while on voice wasn't possible on CDMA.. But I was inside a cafe getting lunch, and while on the phone I had to look up something on ticketmaster and was amazed that I was actually able to surf the web while on the phone. I have had blackberries, WM phones and an Evo prior to this and it was never possible (unless on wifi) I'm in NYC so there is no LTE available yet.. Has anyone who is in a non-LTE market able to do this?
I've seen this mentioned before by some others. Here's a link to one such thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764756
Thanks! When I saw this I kissed my phone, LOL.. But really this is why this phone is so damn amazing.. It makes it so much easier to quickly look something up then to have to say "lemme look this up real quick I'm gonna call you back".
Yep it's great isn't it. The newer phones on Sprint or at least Galaxy 3 and Evo LTE are svdo capable aka simultaneous voice and data. Thank God cdma networks can now do this (Sprint, Verizon) as the gsm networks (TMobile, and AT&T) have been able to do this for a long time.
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Yup! And don't forget the LG Viper it was the first LTE phone to bring the feature. Kinda messed up the Galaxy Nexus is the only LTE phone that don't support it.
yeah, I found this out today and I about screamed out of joy!. I was downloading G Maps and had to call my wife, so I called her and realized the 3G icon didn't go away, like it does on the Epic 4G (my last phone). And I had to tell my wife "hold on" and went back to my notifications and realizeed GMaps was still downloading. What a great feature on a CDMA phone. One more reason to love my GSIII I wish i could find out who thought of this, so I could buy him/her a beer. Peace!
i never even paid attention... usually the only time im using data while on the phone is at home with wifi or occasionally when im on 4g which of course is not cdma... never new this feature was implemented... good to know gsm no longer has the one up on us...
Does this chipset use a different 3G technology?
I remember when the Thunderbolt came out for Verizon everyone was amazed that it could do this and the reason was Verizon/Thunderbolt's Chipset was using some different type of EVDO revision that allowed it to work or something. Maybe I'm wrong on the technical details lol, but the general idea is right.....
Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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I noticed this in STL over the weekend, I am not sure how long it has been this way because like you I "knew" it didn't work so never tried it. I just happened to get an email while on a call.
SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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SVDO isn't a network feature or capability. It's only dependent on the phone having multiple data and voice antennas, and the Galaxy S3 does.
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So I can use data while on the phone with my Galaxy SIII??? Wow, that's AWESOME!:good:
Going to have to try this out once I'm in an area that isn't being 'visioned'.....right now I don't have connectivity even though my phone says that I do.
I found out the same way you guys did (im in Tampa) and did some reading and was really surprised to find out that our phones did out the box....made me love the phone even more.
Yes. Today. I received a call while downloading and it still downloading...nice.
Not like my Epic4g downloading a file 100mb and on 92mb some call you to say Hi!
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This statement isn't exactly true. It is both a phone and network feature. The towers need to accept multiple connections from the same phone id, as well as the phone needs to have the multi channel capabilities. Sprint used to block this, but doesn't anymore.
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Maybe I missed this but I didn't think that Sprints 3G service allowed for simultaneous voice and data.
I'm in Canton, Ohio and I just noticed that today I'm able to both use the phone and browse the Web at the same time without WIFI.
I can only assume that this is a network vision thing. LTE isn't in my future for a little while but I thought this was a good sign. Anyone else notice this?
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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I noticed it just today as well, and lo and behold here's this thread! So I called sprint here a few minutes ago and asked the rep if they knew of it working.
They didn't. ROFL!
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lmfao...another thought is this is not a part of the vision upgrade, just something to do with the s4 soc , I bet Verizons sgs3 along wIth other snapdragon powered phones can do it as well
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Reading this thread I thought you have all gone bonkers, but since my sgs3 is not connected yet I couldn't test this myself. Well my coworker has the evo lte.....hmm they have the same internals so I got him to try, it certainly does work. This feature is not advertised, would be hilarious if sprint didn't even know this.
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I don't know anything about Samsung ads, but the SVDO capability is listed in all the spec sheets I've seen. Sprint had to request the capability from Samsung, so Sprint must know the feature is included.
This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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This was discussed many times since this phone was released. Shows how much people search and or research their own phone.
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Ha. When Sprint activates HD Voice, I anticipate a ton of threads with people asking why voice calls don't sound better on the S3. Then, they'll throw a fit when they're told the S3 doesn't support it. It's just like all the people in non-LTE areas asking why their 4G no longer works even though they had full signal on their Evo or Epic 4G. No one wants to spend time researching their purchases.
I have to admin
I have to admin that when I finally switched from my blackberry to the S3, I was so used to having wifi on that when I was on a call and my email was still coming in or I was able to launch a browser and look things up, I nearly went crazy. Being in IT I never looked up the phone specs to be honest other than being highly anxious to install applications from the Play Store and do things I couldn't do with my old device. Now I'm just looking for a good rom to root the device for wifi, lol.
I've been driving iSheep off the iphone5 with specifically this feature (not that there aren't at least a dozen more. I think that with the financial future of Sprint in the hands of Apple and the sales of iPhones the lack of dual antennas because it has a 'dynamic antenna' is going to cripple anyone who needs/wants that feature. To me SVDO is something that killed me when we didn't have it and now that I do I can never go without it.
Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Is anybody can explain then why when streaming the radio if I receive a text massage the radio stops (I know because of that ring) but it goes to buffer and chokes till start streaming again. This is the same as any other phone before so SVDS no benefit here.
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Mine doesnt choke after resuming pandora but at other times it chokes. Its just pandora not anything related svdo
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Galaxy S4 will also do simultaneous voice and data on 3G like the S3 does?
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No. The chipset does not support the SVDO capability.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-343-a-short-time-from-now-in-a-galaxy-not-far-away/
As for simultaneous voice and data, the Galaxy S4 does support SVLTE but is the latest in a long line of Sprint LTE handsets now to forgo SVDO. Realistically, this comes as no great surprise, as we have not seen SVDO capability in any new handset since last summer. Either this is a limitation of the Qualcomm MDM9615 baseband modem that has become standard equipment or SVDO is no longer a strong priority as Sprint LTE coverage grows weekly. Regardless, CDMA1X and EV-DO share a transmit path (indicated in the FCC OET diagram above); hence, simultaneous CDMA1X voice and EV-DO data is not supported.
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since I've had my gnex these are my favorite highlights of verizon service
1. LTE started at 25 megs it's now at 10
2. My unlimited contract is technically still valid but for some reason I can barely ever break 4gb since they stopped offering it
3. Following my internet service Verizon now pre compresses data like pictures sent to my phone = crappy resolutions
4. 2 years after the launch of LTE the service area has steadily declined
5. Google voice magically stopped working on the first day of last months billing period = 140 extra dollar bill they wont discount
6. They dont improve the signal they rewrite the software to display more bars
7. When you go to the speed test app magically your phone is faster, something Samsung was recently caught doing
8. This month our 17% employee discount mysteriously needs to be renewed - they forgot to notify us - last time we went for 11 months without it. And we can't do it online.
9. My phone has problems charging but they claim the internet is lies about it being a charging port issue even though I can wiggle it fixed in front of them.
10. bloatware
11. Mysterious connection delays that they say is "solved" by purchasing a new phone
I know I have some more, the point being that before you go out and get a Verizon phone because it's supposed to the best service, look around and make sure it still is.
In my area Wyoming. Verizon really screwed up and sold alltel to at&t. Verizon used to piggy back on alltel towers and alltel was the main cell provider. At&t is now turning off the old alltel service on the towers and making them gsm only. Seems like my service gets worse monthly now and some areas like where I work have quit completely but att that was non existent before is full bars on my work phone. If it wasn't for their better costumer service and having unlimited data I would be done. They day they say no more unlimited data I say goodbye. Probably go back to dumb phone as I can't afford a 12gb data plan.
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since I've had my gnex these are my favorite highlights of verizon service
1. LTE started at 25 megs it's now at 10
2. My unlimited contract is technically still valid but for some reason I can barely ever break 4gb since they stopped offering it
3. Following my internet service Verizon now pre compresses data like pictures sent to my phone = crappy resolutions
4. 2 years after the launch of LTE the service area has steadily declined
5. Google voice magically stopped working on the first day of last months billing period = 140 extra dollar bill they wont discount
6. They dont improve the signal they rewrite the software to display more bars
7. When you go to the speed test app magically your phone is faster, something Samsung was recently caught doing
8. This month our 17% employee discount mysteriously needs to be renewed - they forgot to notify us - last time we went for 11 months without it. And we can't do it online.
9. My phone has problems charging but they claim the internet is lies about it being a charging port issue even though I can wiggle it fixed in front of them.
10. bloatware
11. Mysterious connection delays that they say is "solved" by purchasing a new phone
I know I have some more, the point being that before you go out and get a Verizon phone because it's supposed to the best service, look around and make sure it still is.
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Not that I'm terribly happy with Verizon, but I'm not sure what you mean by some of these?
1. Probably congestion with all the 4g phones.
2. How can you not get more than 4gb? Does your service stop?
3. How would this do this without extra local software?
4. 4g service is pretty extensive in my area, but it's no bigger than their 3g was and att now has much better coverage.
5. How would you suddenly be charged if Google voice stops working?
9. Likely crud in your micro use port. Sharpen a toothpick to get it out. I've had this from time to time.
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That's really odd. I will say that i've noticed a tad bit of slowdown in general on their LTE network but i would attribute that to the great increase of traffic compared to what it was when the Nexus originally came out.
I just broke 8 gigs of data usage this month, not sure why you are having problems. Do you have insurance on your phone?
I disagree with everything you're saying, OP.
The next town over, to this day, I get around 40 Mbps down consistently, and last month I used 17 GB.
Speeds and coverage depend on the phone of course, like the Droid RAZR M RIGHT NEXT TO MY GALAXY NEXUS was getting around 2x the download speeds.
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Is it really not that obvious? New phone have better radios hardware and software wise. When you upgrade your service and speeds will be better
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I just wanted to update my previous post about the service Wyoming. They actually are putting up towers and 4g in the middle of nowhere that was previously lost when they sold to att. So my service is actually getting better now. I have service now where I need it.
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I don't know how to address all of your points, because I'm pretty sure some of them aren't problems with Verizon's network, but I can say that network speed was absolutely destined to decrease after the boom of LTE phones.
It's happened with every network after they hit a critical mass of LTE devices.
Network congestion is a serious problem that isn't easily solved. Throwing more towers at it can help mitigate the issue, but much of the problem boils down to limited spectrum- the same reason why populated wifi connections are unusable. It doesn't have to do with the routers being bottlenecked, it's simply the spectrum being overcrowded.
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Is it really not that obvious? New phone have better radios hardware and software wise. When you upgrade your service and speeds will be better
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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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Same thing happened to me. My 4G is now almost non-existent at my house. Used to get 20mbs down. I still broke 80gbs last month (sick and staying at home) but speeds are a fraction of what it used to be.
I opened a T-Mobile line to test out their service in my area (LA/OC) and its pretty awesome. Dead spot here and there but nothing I didn't experience on Verizon either. Also wanted to test how true their unlimited data is. Its been 3 days and pushing 8 gigs. I bypassed the tether block as well. Looking good so far but still got 20 more days to go.
Also picked up an S4 with T-Mobile. Really blows my Gnex to shame. Tethering and charging doesnt turn my phone into a brick of fire. Its been a few hours and the phone is still very cool. Battery even lasts 2-3x longer than the Gnex even while tethering vs Gnex being idle. Its crazy.
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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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Agreed, this is a common occurrence. LTE has a theoretical max of what, 100mbps? So eventually it *should* surpass HSPA+/HSDPA.
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No its not because I have a galaxy s4 on Verizon my girl has AT&T with a iPhone 5 and AT&T 3g/hspa is faster than Verizon's 4g/LTE/3g
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In context of the O.P's comment he is right. Within Verizons network if you update to a new device it will have better optimized software and radios compared to an older device that Verizon refuses to allow an update for.
my only issue with Verizon is their charging out the ass part
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I've seen threads of people not happy with the data signal, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I was in a movie theater today. I couldn't get any data signal, not even basic google search. I even tried re-booting and still nothing. Picked up my wife's iPhone 4s and it was flying around internet sites.
I tested the same thing afterwards at the local food market and the exact same thing. My phone, no inside signal, her iPhone, perfect.
How can a phone become so popular with such crappy signal?
I've seen complaints too but I've got to say that my One has been on par with my iPhones, Galaxy S3, Blackberry's, etc... No signal issues here whatsoever
The other person on my plan has an iPhone 5 and we both usually have the same amount of signal anywhere we go
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I've seen threads of people not happy with the data signal, but I didn't realize how bad it was until I was in a movie theater today. I couldn't get any data signal, not even basic google search. I even tried re-booting and still nothing. Picked up my wife's iPhone 4s and it was flying around internet sites.
I tested the same thing afterwards at the local food market and the exact same thing. My phone, no inside signal, her iPhone, perfect.
How can a phone become so popular with such crappy signal?
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note 2 is popular as can be and mine drops calls everyday.
I would get it swapped out. Maybe you got a dud. HTC usually has better radios than everybody but Moto.
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I've seen complaints too but I've got to say that my One has been on par with my iPhones, Galaxy S3, Blackberry's, etc... No signal issues here whatsoever
The other person on my plan has an iPhone 5 and we both usually have the same amount of signal anywhere we go
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The only huge issue I have with it is its TERRIBLE hand-off, at least when my iPhone 5 or DNA lost 4g LTE it would grab it the moment it was available again. The One just holds onto that crappy 3G for dear life until I force it to go to LTE again.
Edit: Or wait 5-10 minutes.
I don't notice a difference from my Galaxy S4.
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I've had the phone for two weeks and saw the 3G icon for the first time today. Signal has been fine...
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The only huge issue I have with it is its TERRIBLE hand-off, at least when my iPhone 5 or DNA lost 4g LTE it would grab it the moment it was available again. The One just holds onto that crappy 3G for dear life until I force it to go to LTE again.
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That's weird! I haven't experienced that problem either. I've only noticed my One on 3G once but the hand off to LTE seemed pretty normal to me. I can't really comment on that issue though because my area is pretty much all LTE so I don't deal with the hand offs.
I wonder if it's a defect in your phone? Does the One allow us to update the PRL? I remember the HTC EVO had an update PRL option that I think could do something with service issues... something or other, I can't really remember.
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That's weird! I haven't experienced that problem either. I've only noticed my One on 3G once but the hand off to LTE seemed pretty normal to me. I can't really comment on that issue though because my area is pretty much all LTE so I don't deal with the hand offs.
I wonder if it's a defect in your phone? Does the One allow us to update the PRL? I remember the HTC EVO had an update PRL option that I think could do something with service issues... something or other, I can't really remember.
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No I don't think it is, GrayWolf has the same issue. I live in Minnesota and frequently travel to jobsites where there is concrete and such. Because Verizon hasn't upgraded every cell site with LTE yet just "Most of them" I frequently go into 3G. When the device goes into 3G for an extended period of time sometimes it takes a reboot to get back to LTE, most of the time it takes awhile to go back. And sometimes it goes right away, it's pretty annoying to be honest and may make me go to the Droid Maxx.
Lte onoff in the market helps me out. It was used for the thunderbolt to turn off the Lte radio when it was new. I toggle to Lte only, wait for it to get a signal them back to cdma+lte
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That's weird! I haven't experienced that problem either. I've only noticed my One on 3G once but the hand off to LTE seemed pretty normal to me. I can't really comment on that issue though because my area is pretty much all LTE so I don't deal with the hand offs.
I wonder if it's a defect in your phone? Does the One allow us to update the PRL? I remember the HTC EVO had an update PRL option that I think could do something with service issues... something or other, I can't really remember.
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Your sim card updates the PRL.
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I'll get a change to test out my reception later. I do know the 4G on the One seems almost twice as fast as my Rezound though.
I find my signal is much better on the One than on my previous SIII or SGN.
Samsung has the worst radios. The Galaxy Nexus absolutely blew in that respect and, everyone came up with theories about false calibration of bars and whatnot, but the fact remained that it sucked with weak reception and poor hand-off between 3G and LTE.
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I find my signal is much better on the One than on my previous SIII or SGN.
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godhamba said:
Samsung has the worst radios. The Galaxy Nexus absolutely blew in that respect and, everyone came up with theories about false calibration of bars and whatnot, but the fact remained that it sucked with weak reception and poor hand-off between 3G and LTE.
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I found my Samsung Nexus was horrible, my Galaxy S3 was good... but now my One is not good again. I just hung up with a vzw CSR and he told me they had some problems with SIM cards when the One was released and to go get a new one. He said the SIM card could absolutely fix the problem.
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How can a phone become so popular with such crappy signal?
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My experience has been similar to what you had today. It seems mostly indoors I experienced the problems. I'm wondering, were you able to unlock your phone on day one? I did, and I'm wondering if custom ROMs or other changes we've been able to make have affected our reception.
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My experience has been similar to what you had today. It seems mostly indoors I experienced the problems. I'm wondering, were you able to unlock your phone on day one? I did, and I'm wondering if custom ROMs or other changes we've been able to make have affected our reception.
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I tried on day one, but they couldn't activate my phone... ughhh... but I was told today to get a new sim card.
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Samsung has the worst radios. The Galaxy Nexus absolutely blew in that respect and, everyone came up with theories about false calibration of bars and whatnot, but the fact remained that it sucked with weak reception and poor hand-off between 3G and LTE.
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The Nexus was disappointing in several ways. I didn't go by the bars, but the dBm readout under settings. The Rezound was on par with my DInc, and soon I'll see how The One holds up to that.
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No I don't think it is, GrayWolf has the same issue.
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My issues were related to a bad ril in CyanogenMod.
Only thing I notice now is that text messages take forever to send.
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My issues were related to a bad ril in CyanogenMod.
Only thing I notice now is that text messages take forever to send.
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Is ril part of the ROM? I'm running hyperdrive and wonder if it could be related?
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My reception in general was better on my DNA. I am yet to see 5 bars on my One, but I'm also yet to see no signal. Using apps like dropbox from the gallery is nearly impossible, takes too long to load even a couple pictures let alone swipe through them. Don't care, I love this phone. My DNA shipped out to the buyer today. No regrets.
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