Hey guys i just bought Xperia play " 2nd hand used " i was wondering should i stay on stock ? or not ?
and if not i want to get best performance which rom and kernel should i use for best and stable performance " and also good for gaming "
personally i'd stick to a stock based rom. some people say doomkernel is the best gingerbread kernel, i returned to stock kernel
anyways, i suggest any light gingerbread rom like NXT, trueancestor ecc., you don't need much else to make this phone fly, as the firmware is already the best for gaming.
my 2 cents
Thanks for the reply !
so Stock rom + Kernel is better and faster than like CM10 " if there is any " like JB on this phone this phone ?
yes GB is faster... on ICS/JB is also problem with touchpad, so i think, people who bought XP for HC Playing take stock based rom...
for games my favorite is - NXT LE (runs smoth GTA VC )
so far i didnt even use the touch pad thingi " the circle things " i only use the arrows and the " triangle O x Squar buttons " and that's it
should i go to like CM10 if there is any out there ?
MrSalue said:
so far i didnt even use the touch pad thingi " the circle things " i only use the arrows and the " triangle O x Squar buttons " and that's it
should i go to like CM10 if there is any out there ?
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I recommend jellyzeus
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MrSalue said:
so far i didnt even use the touch pad thingi " the circle things " i only use the arrows and the " triangle O x Squar buttons " and that's it
should i go to like CM10 if there is any out there ?
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Just remember this if you go CM10 and you download games from the googleplay that are xperia play "optimized" the gamepad wont work on CM10 .
for JB/ICS go.
JB- Jellyzeus / TurboUI + TurboUI kernel
ICS- CM 9.1
this is fastest roms...
If you want Eye-Candy and awesome new features, use:
-Slimbean (JB)
-Turbo UI(JB)
-NXT ICS(ICS)
-CM10(JB)
If you want speed, use:
NXT Light
Cola ROM for r800x
Thank me if this helped.
chery2k said:
Just remember this if you go CM10 and you download games from the googleplay that are xperia play "optimized" the gamepad wont work on CM10 .
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Not true a few games work like minecraft, I'm on slimbean and its work
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crazymonkey05 said:
Not true a few games work like minecraft, I'm on slimbean and its work
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To me thats not acceptable (I dont play minecraft) that game may be ok for you but not for me. Heres an example king of fighters that is xperia play optimized doesn't work on any JB rom.
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To me thats not acceptable (I dont play minecraft) that game may be ok for you but not for me. Heres an example king of fighters that is xperia play optimized doesn't work on any JB rom.
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Yea the dev foe my ROM said that only a few select games work I was just giving you a heads up
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I have just recently unlocked my bootloader and am on DooMKernel with the NXT rom and the phone absolutely flies! TDKR and NOVA 3 run so smoothly now!!!
GB: NXT Rom
ICS: CM9.1 + farenheith fix
Related
Just wanna know the best rom for :
Gaming
UI (LooKs)
Speed & Performance
Battery Life (Even with slight Overclock)
Cant really find one that looks really good.
DiXperia 2, Lupus Linaro GB v2. Thats it.
The one u already used: NXT Rom
But still after a lot of thread that ask the same Q, and yet we hav another. Pretty weird tho.
Please help me for my xperia !
hi people. I will soon receive my xperia play and I really need advice.
If I did not root my phone or install a custom rom, can I play for example zelda ocarina of time has no lags or any problems or many other zelda games is just one example.
At the interface disign and I brace for a moment by the version 4.0.4 that I love.
So I advise you to install a custom rom or rooter my xperia play?
Another issue because I have a xperia x8:
Have known you a custom rom 4.0.4 with the camera and complete?
(please send me links I pert on your forums yet sorry)
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hi people. I will soon receive my xperia play and I really need advice.
If I did not root my phone or install a custom rom, can I play for example zelda ocarina of time has no lags or any problems or many other zelda games is just one example.
At the interface disign and I brace for a moment by the version 4.0.4 that I love.
So I advise you to install a custom rom or rooter my xperia play?
Another issue because I have a xperia x8:
Have known you a custom rom 4.0.4 with the camera and complete?
(please send me links I pert on your forums yet sorry)
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Nice 1!!!
Nice 2.
Dix, TA, NXT, its same
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gin2jellybean, if you like that.. looks smart got bored of gb and thats not team gb!
No one can answer this really can they.
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Well, there's loads.. there's Gin2JellyBean, NXTRom, DiXperia, or if you want to try out ICS, there's Mark Phytons ICS ROM for Android 4.0.4
Sorry to hijack and all that but if all I want to do gaming wise is play emulators and not the latest games what would be the recommended ROM? Currently using 2.3.7 true ancestor with doom kernel. Fancy a bit of ics, but don't want to sabotage my ability to play megadrive and snes games (and so on)
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I use CM7.
Touchpads working on Dead Trigger and some other (havent tested yet)
Has got many settings, 20MB of used internal space n other stuff
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USE MY ROM
NXTBeAn.
FIND IT HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877798
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Do touchpads work like gb?
I just use stock with doom kernal mainly because I like my touchpads working the GB way.
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touchpads work perfect like gb
sfex3best said:
Do touchpads work like gb?
I just use stock with doom kernal mainly because I like my touchpads working the GB way.
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Sony based ROM = working touchpads
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I can't seem to find a Rom that im just 100% happy with. I've tried various GB and ICS roms but still am not happy. I like to play the Asphalt racing series and every rom I've tried on still lags. My Xperia Play 4G I've had unbranded bootloader unlocked and have tried cyanogenmod 7 and 9, I've tried the official ICS, nxt, true ancestor, and various other roms. I don't understand swap file or swap partition usage. Im also a user of supercharger v6 script which im not sure if it actually works. Please advise me.
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Gin2JB or Xperia NXT (i think that's the name). Try overclocking as well. If you don't like V6, you could unsupercharge and try RAM manager from google play store.
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I am currently using darkforest 3.0.5 on my play with a locked bootloader asphalt 7 dont lag for me
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Im diggin the stock 2.3.3 rom. What can you hate about it? Everything works. Sony made sure to get most of our PLAYS functionality were forced to stick with stock to have everything working. =/
The best rom is jin2jellybean with doomkernel governator smartassV2 I/O sio 364mhz - 1305mhz
Inviato dal mio Xperia Play
NXT2JB
Doomkernel 1.4
I believe chery2k is right. Thank you all for your answers.
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I've been using the official ICS Rom forever now but I've been missing game play when I get bored. So I'm heading back stock out of the box firmware with some tweaks and bloat removal of course.
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Well i'm back in stock ville. Lol! But hell now my games are working flawlessly. Removed all Sony crap I didn't use, added supercharger script. Did some other miscellaneous tweaking and now my at&t Xperia Play 4G is back rocking.
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I've been using the official ICS Rom forever now but I've been missing game play when I get bored. So I'm heading back stock out of the box firmware with some tweaks and bloat removal of course.
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what ICS Official do you use ? is this what you mean ?
i plan to flash this ROM to my Xperia Play , and i plan to unlock the bootloader of my device
what you mean missing the game play ? is the game play getting more laggy on that ROM ?
Yes thats the ics Rom im talking about. I call it official because Sony has been helping that developer finish it. But asphalt 6 and 7 lag on it but very playabe. GTA 3 is unplayable.(same with all ics roms) nova 3 lags. Gingerbread is just what our xperia plays are meant to run. PsXperia games converted for GB are also unsupported. Meaning only ps1 games can play on ics are the small list of officials from the store. so if you want a gaming phone stay with a GB stock or custom rom. Im using 2.3.3 stock with lupus kernel o.c. to 1500ghz and supercharged
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Yes thats the ics Rom im talking about. I call it official because Sony has been helping that developer finish it. But asphalt 6 and 7 lag on it but very playabe. GTA 3 is unplayable.(same with all ics roms) nova 3 lags. Gingerbread is just what our xperia plays are meant to run. PsXperia games converted for GB are also unsupported. Meaning only ps1 games can play on ics are the small list of officials from the store. so if you want a gaming phone stay with a GB stock or custom rom. Im using 2.3.3 stock with lupus kernel o.c. to 1500ghz and supercharged
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hmmm so some games is still uncompatible with the ROM :crying: even the converted ps pocket games with PSXperia :crying:
but isn't ICS has improved memory management for running apps ? then why the game is more laggy & incompatible
based on your testimonial i guess i cancel my plan to unlock bootloader and flash this ICS ROM + custom kernel , for now
until markphyton can make the very stable release ( let's just hope so ) hehehe
i currently using Xperia NXT 1.3 KrisDee with stock kernel ( locked bootloader ), i found this stable custom ROM for GB and great gaming performance
but i have found a few small problem like , missing DLNA feature , cannot like track in music player ( like on facebook ) , cannot sync with senseMe & cannot charge the battery in OFF posistion
Ive had a bad experience gaming on ics. I dont necessarily say ics is unstable. It has came leaps and bounds from where it was on xperia Play its just I think these devices lack the extra hardware requirements. I.e. Cpu,gpu,ram. Gingerbread unfortunately being outdated is still the most stable for gaming. You can still achieve dlna by using es file explorer and setting up ftp with your router, pc. I access all my home files everywhere on my phone.
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Unlocking your bootloader is still not a bad $20 investment. The test point method is simple, effective, and fast. You also might be able to find flashable addons for those other options you mentioned. Just saying. Im still happy im unbranded and can flash roms and kernels at my desire.
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hmmm so some games is still uncompatible with the ROM :crying: even the converted ps pocket games with PSXperia :crying:
but isn't ICS has improved memory management for running apps ? then why the game is more laggy & incompatible
based on your testimonial i guess i cancel my plan to unlock bootloader and flash this ICS ROM + custom kernel , for now
until markphyton can make the very stable release ( let's just hope so ) hehehe
i currently using Xperia NXT 1.3 KrisDee with stock kernel ( locked bootloader ), i found this stable custom ROM for GB and great gaming performance
but i have found a few small problem like , missing DLNA feature , cannot like track in music player ( like on facebook ) , cannot sync with senseMe & cannot charge the battery in OFF posistion
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Same configuration as yours, but i 'm still planning to unlock bootloader. Not for install ICS roms (i want keep this NXT Rom 1.3, is the best rom IMHO) , but because i want overclock a litlle bit, let 's say 1.4-1.6. because i see in latest games litttle lags are annoying, like Need for Speed most wanted, MC3, ...
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Same configuration as yours, but i 'm still planning to unlock bootloader. Not for install ICS roms (i want keep this NXT Rom 1.3, is the best rom IMHO) , but because i want overclock a litlle bit, let 's say 1.4-1.6. because i see in latest games litttle lags are annoying, like Need for Speed most wanted, MC3, ...
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You wont be disappointed after unlocking your bootloader. I recommend the lupus GBv5 kernel and dont forget to flash the lupus wifi modules afterwards.
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cheeze6661 said:
You wont be disappointed after unlocking your bootloader. I recommend the lupus GBv5 kernel and dont forget to flash the lupus wifi modules afterwards.
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But people reccomend me doomlord kernel. What about it? Differences?
Doomlord has moved on to newer devices. Lupus is still being updated for our plays.
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If your using pads: Xperia NXT... No doubt about it... Smooth, fast, compatible, Android 2.3.7 xD...
I dont play games that uses the pads, just the DPad, so i'm using SlimBean 3 (By CJ360), and waiting for the fix for Wifi/DeepSleep... Otherwise, is a excellent ROM. smooth and fast as hell, maybe more than GB...
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Ive had a bad experience gaming on ics. I dont necessarily say ics is unstable. It has came leaps and bounds from where it was on xperia Play its just I think these devices lack the extra hardware requirements. I.e. Cpu,gpu,ram. Gingerbread unfortunately being outdated is still the most stable for gaming. You can still achieve dlna by using es file explorer and setting up ftp with your router, pc. I access all my home files everywhere on my phone.
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Unlocking your bootloader is still not a bad $20 investment. The test point method is simple, effective, and fast. You also might be able to find flashable addons for those other options you mentioned. Just saying. Im still happy im unbranded and can flash roms and kernels at my desire.
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so Xperia Play HW is not good enough for ICS , hmmm so maybe the other 2011 Xperia product is laggy even on official ICS
yeah i want to unlocking the bootloader , is it worth for flashing other custom kernel ? is the differences is significant ?
and one problem is , i dont want to lose the DRM on my devices , so i prefer the testpoint method , but i find it hard to remove the sticker on the back of the phone it's very sticky , lol :laugh:
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Same configuration as yours, but i 'm still planning to unlock bootloader. Not for install ICS roms (i want keep this NXT Rom 1.3, is the best rom IMHO) , but because i want overclock a litlle bit, let 's say 1.4-1.6. because i see in latest games litttle lags are annoying, like Need for Speed most wanted, MC3, ...
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yeah right , NFS MW is lil bit laggy on Xperia Play
many user that have downloaded it & play that game on Xperia Play have the same lag experience :laugh:
is it possible b'coz the low class speed SD Card ?
btw , did you have the same problem like me on this ROM ? is it the bug or there's something wrong with the custom ROM that i have installed ? like a false step maybe ? lol
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If your using pads: Xperia NXT... No doubt about it... Smooth, fast, compatible, Android 2.3.7 xD...
I dont play games that uses the pads, just the DPad, so i'm using SlimBean 3 (By CJ360), and waiting for the fix for Wifi/DeepSleep... Otherwise, is a excellent ROM. smooth and fast as hell, maybe more than GB...
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yeah , it's fast & smooth
i hope KrisDee can contnue his work on this ROM , hehehe
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so Xperia Play HW is not good enough for ICS , hmmm so maybe the other 2011 Xperia product is laggy even on official ICS
yeah i want to unlocking the bootloader , is it worth for flashing other custom kernel ? is the differences is significant ?
and one problem is , i dont want to lose the DRM on my devices , so i prefer the testpoint method , but i find it hard to remove the sticker on the back of the phone it's very sticky , lol :laugh:
yeah right , NFS MW is lil bit laggy on Xperia Play
many user that have downloaded it & play that game on Xperia Play have the same lag experience :laugh:
is it possible b'coz the low class speed SD Card ?
btw , did you have the same problem like me on this ROM ? is it the bug or there's something wrong with the custom ROM that i have installed ? like a false step maybe ? lol
yeah , it's fast & smooth
i hope KrisDee can contnue his work on this ROM , hehehe
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Its totally worth being able to flash custom kernel. Id say the changes are significant. And removing the sticker is the hardest part of the test point method. You wont lose drm either.
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If your using pads: Xperia NXT... No doubt about it... Smooth, fast, compatible, Android 2.3.7 xD...
I dont play games that uses the pads, just the DPad, so i'm using SlimBean 3 (By CJ360), and waiting for the fix for Wifi/DeepSleep... Otherwise, is a excellent ROM. smooth and fast as hell, maybe more than GB...
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Slimbean.... Hmmm interesting. Didn't think jelly bean would be stable so never tried it.
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What is the best ROM for Xperia Play, i have just bought it and got GTA Vice City and it lags. I want to play without lag with high settings, is it possible?
Nxt LE by krisdee is the way to go for gaming
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yes NXT LE, GTA VC runs smoth, medium/high detail...
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yes NXT LE, GTA VC runs smoth, medium/high detail...
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I have only seen that available for GSM... can it run on an R800x CDMA device?
ahmm.. no i think... for 800x try cola rom
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ahmm.. no i think... for 800x try cola rom
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Ah thanks. Yeah I just happened along these posts in the NXT thread that put the nail in it for my R800x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34609248
I'll check out the cola rom. I'm running Slim Bean right now, but I it doesn't seem to have support for moving apps to the SD card. Also not so good with my NES and Genesis emulators...
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Ah thanks. Yeah I just happened along these posts in the NXT thread that put the nail in it for my R800x http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34609248
I'll check out the cola rom. I'm running Slim Bean right now, but I it doesn't seem to have support for moving apps to the SD card. Also not so good with my NES and Genesis emulators...
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You could try zeuznxtlite or whatever its called I was looking at it other day looks very lite
And yeh I think thats a kernel problem with moving app2sd as I was testing multiboot before but when multiboot kernel gets app2sd support there will be a winner
Leterally after I wrote tjis cosmic dan realesed turbo kerenel r10 lol witj app2sd fix
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ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
You could try zeuznxtlite or whatever its called I was looking at it other day looks very lite
And yeh I think thats a kernel problem with moving app2sd as I was testing multiboot before but when multiboot kernel gets app2sd support there will be a winner
Leterally after I wrote tjis cosmic dan realesed turbo kerenel r10 lol witj app2sd fix
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I think I found it... ZeuscNXTLite v1.1.1?
That has an interesting install method. Restore from CWM rather than installing from a .zip I imagine I'd have to flash myself back to stock 2.3.3 before I could install that?
Anyway, thanks for the heads up on Turbo Kernel (yeah I'm running r9 right now) I'll check that out too. I can handle not being able to use apps2sd, my main gripe is MD.emu and NES.emu won't display video. For some reason I haven't been able to restore my Wolfenstein 3D either... It's hard to have a good day when you can't kill at least one Nazi.
I am currently trying to.port nxt to our cdma I already git the permission for a port its almost there I just need to get my 3g and wifi fixed on it and we should be golden
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I am currently trying to.port nxt to our cdma I already git the permission for a port its almost there I just need to get my 3g and wifi fixed on it and we should be golden
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Thank you for taking your time in porting roms for the R800x. By any chance can you port jokawild v3 I really like this rom on my R800a.
Can someone suggest what is best kernel for locked bootloader with Xperia NXT Light Edition ROM? I will use the phone mostly for gaming.
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Can someone suggest what is best kernel for locked bootloader with Xperia NXT Light Edition ROM? I will use the phone mostly for gaming.
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You cannot change kernel unless you have a unlocked boot loader
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h4mza said:
What is the best ROM for Xperia Play, i have just bought it and got GTA Vice City and it lags. I want to play without lag with high settings, is it possible?
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Stock Gingerbread
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You cannot change kernel unless you have a unlocked boot loader
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are you saying that if you DO have unlocked boot loader that you CAN change kernel? if so, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using another kernel? i've had no major problems running NXT light and DooMKernel but i do like trying out different things. anyways, GTA VC runs very well on NXT light ROM.
I have heared about that NXTGaming ROM.. based off of NXT LE and it's supposed to be really good for gaming, worth a try I suppose? :angel:
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I have heared about that NXTGaming ROM.. based off of NXT LE and it's supposed to be really good for gaming, worth a try I suppose? :angel:
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This rom make your Xperia Play became console, he remove phone apps
Cola ROM is the best for VB gaming. Not the best look but super fast
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ROM: Extreme Ics
Kernel: Lupus v9
Just want something that is stable, like stock and actually play games properly. r800x is dead, isn't it?
All jellybean roms for r800i also have an r800x version. No jellybean roms are going to give you stock like experiencevin gaming though they are stqble
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abdel12345 said:
All jellybean roms for r800i also have an r800x version. No jellybean roms are going to give you stock like experiencevin gaming though they are stqble
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Any of them you'd recommend? The most stable, etc.?
Pac is really nice and its stable and games will run ok with an overclock but the touchpads are very laggy in some games and work fine in others. Slimbean is the lightest rom but it has a problem with soft reboots that couldn't be solved. Paranoid android is pretty nice and has the tablet ui and also hqs more free ram than pac rom but it has less features. Those are imo the top jb roms but there's also cosmic dans jellyzeus which is great but it has vey little features its a "bare" rom. He also has a turbo ui which is great but I don't really like the theme of it. And then there's miui 5 which is a beta and discontinued. Its a beautiful rom but has some problems that wont be fixed because dan has left. My favorite is pac but you'd have to choose based on your needs.
Edit: there's also aokp which runs fine despite what the thread says because the op was never updated. It says camera doesn't work but it actually does
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In short, there wont be any stable jb roms for the R800x without the help of SONY.
Hey guys.
Sorry for spamming next topic like that,but real i dont have alot of time for testing new roms.
What is the smooth/stable also with full touchpads working rom based on ICS/JB?
fliperpl said:
Hey guys.
Sorry for spamming next topic like that,but real i dont have alot of time for testing new roms.
What is the smooth/stable also with full touchpads working rom based on ICS/JB?
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any stock ics (by danyxp for example) or cyanogenmod 9 with touchpad fix (by krisdee)
Xperia Play Z by markphyton works great, it's a ICS, I haven't found a JB one.
Hyper glazed ics,
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for gb i will suggest stock debloated without any mod
its too fast with too much free ram
and asphalt 8 doesn't lag for me in it
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for gb i will suggest stock debloated without any mod
its too fast with too much free ram
and asphalt 8 doesn't lag for me in it
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Pm me the link pls.(stock debloated that you use)
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Hyper glazed ics,
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Not working at all.
monster shooter touchpad's not working.
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Not working at all.
monster shooter touchpad's not working.
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Why you say "not working at all" based on ONE game?
That game have working touchpad only on GB roms, it doesn't work on ANY ICS or JB roms
On the other side, ALL Gameloft xperia play optimized games have working touchpads on ANY GB, ICS and JB roms (stock based or others with fix)
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Why you say "not working at all" based on ONE game?
That game have working touchpad only on GB roms, it doesn't work on ANY ICS or JB roms
On the other side, ALL Gameloft xperia play optimized games have working touchpads on ANY GB, ICS and JB roms (stock based or others with fix)
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Yeah thats why i prefer GB roms,i know many games what does not work on ICS/JB and that makes me sick.