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best gamming config for Xplay

im new to all this rom, kernel stuff, i was wondering if someone that already has a XperiaPlay pimped up could enlight my road..
as most of the users that have xplay im stock with 2.3.4
i would like to update to ICS without loosing any function on my phone( i know there is no ICS official ver for xplay), but also want to overclock it, so i can run the games better...
so what config, mod, rom, kernel and all that stuff do i need ? where should i start ?

If u r GSM user, just find latest ICS by markphyton on android development section,
It has almost everything working
U can use Doom's kernel for overclocking later on using app that can control CPU such as voltage control, setCPU or ROM tool box
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otonieru said:
If u r GSM user, just find latest ICS by markphyton on android development section,
It has almost everything working
U can use Doom's kernel for overclocking later on using app that can control CPU such as voltage control, setCPU or ROM tool box
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thnx, im gonna start reading rite now, im gonna see what suits me better. its just that i have too much to read...

Using ICS to play games is the worst idea what you can do. Games arent supported on ICS so it will be buggy, unstable, maybe not working. Use Custom ROM like True Ancestor or Xperia NXT 1.2 and use setcpu (Xperia NXT ROM has it already overclocked to 1.4Ghz).. I dont know why you all people want ICS so bad. Im using Xperia NXT 1.2 and im so happy with it.
Howg.
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Agreed. Its the best rom for gaming and the ui and its smooth.
@wuby why dont you use the xperia nxt banner?

Cuz i dont want
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wuby said:
Cuz i dont want
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i know Gingerbread is way better for gamming, its just that i wanna have the latest update, thats all. i will stick to a gingerbrear ROM.
wich is the best gingerbread ROM for hardcore gamming? without loosing wifi, camera, bluetooth, etc..

The stock ROM is perfect for gaming, just install DooMLord's kernel, overclock it @ 1.6 GHz, install SuperCharger V6 and Chainfire3D. This should considerably speed up the phone without sacrificing any of SE's preinstalled apps.

gac3la said:
i know Gingerbread is way better for gamming, its just that i wanna have the latest update, thats all. i will stick to a gingerbrear ROM.
wich is the best gingerbread ROM for hardcore gamming? without loosing wifi, camera, bluetooth, etc..
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Signature. Installed today. Pretty cool.
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Si1ver Shad0w said:
The stock ROM is perfect for gaming, just install DooMLord's kernel, overclock it @ 1.6 GHz, install SuperCharger V6 and Chainfire3D. This should considerably speed up the phone without sacrificing any of SE's preinstalled apps.
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im gonna try those, i already have chainfire, i installed it when deadtrigger was not available for xplay users...i like the overclock thing, im gonna give it a try
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Signature. Installed today. Pretty cool.
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signature ? i asume its a mod or something

Lol, my signature obv shows ROM im using. Not this one.
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U can just de bloat the rom and use good kernel and tweak it later on using app.. pretty much everything u need for gaming experience...
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Best Rom for Everything ???

Just wanna know the best rom for :
Gaming
UI (LooKs)
Speed & Performance
Battery Life (Even with slight Overclock)
Cant really find one that looks really good.

DiXperia 2, Lupus Linaro GB v2. Thats it.

The one u already used: NXT Rom

But still after a lot of thread that ask the same Q, and yet we hav another. Pretty weird tho.

Please help me for my xperia !
hi people. I will soon receive my xperia play and I really need advice.
If I did not root my phone or install a custom rom, can I play for example zelda ocarina of time has no lags or any problems or many other zelda games is just one example.
At the interface disign and I brace for a moment by the version 4.0.4 that I love.
So I advise you to install a custom rom or rooter my xperia play?
Another issue because I have a xperia x8:
Have known you a custom rom 4.0.4 with the camera and complete?
(please send me links I pert on your forums yet sorry)

susuko100 said:
hi people. I will soon receive my xperia play and I really need advice.
If I did not root my phone or install a custom rom, can I play for example zelda ocarina of time has no lags or any problems or many other zelda games is just one example.
At the interface disign and I brace for a moment by the version 4.0.4 that I love.
So I advise you to install a custom rom or rooter my xperia play?
Another issue because I have a xperia x8:
Have known you a custom rom 4.0.4 with the camera and complete?
(please send me links I pert on your forums yet sorry)
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Don't thread hijack

Nice 1!!!

Nice 2.
Dix, TA, NXT, its same
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gin2jellybean, if you like that.. looks smart got bored of gb and thats not team gb!

No one can answer this really can they.
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Well, there's loads.. there's Gin2JellyBean, NXTRom, DiXperia, or if you want to try out ICS, there's Mark Phytons ICS ROM for Android 4.0.4

Sorry to hijack and all that but if all I want to do gaming wise is play emulators and not the latest games what would be the recommended ROM? Currently using 2.3.7 true ancestor with doom kernel. Fancy a bit of ics, but don't want to sabotage my ability to play megadrive and snes games (and so on)
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I use CM7.
Touchpads working on Dead Trigger and some other (havent tested yet)
Has got many settings, 20MB of used internal space n other stuff
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USE MY ROM
NXTBeAn.
FIND IT HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877798
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Do touchpads work like gb?
I just use stock with doom kernal mainly because I like my touchpads working the GB way.
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touchpads work perfect like gb

sfex3best said:
Do touchpads work like gb?
I just use stock with doom kernal mainly because I like my touchpads working the GB way.
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Sony based ROM = working touchpads
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Pros/Cons of ICS for XPlay?

So what are the pros and cons of ICS for XPlay? Can I root it, etc.?

With ICS you get the latest Android OS and all of its goodies (functions, theme, root etc.), but some games that worked fine on GB are either laggy, buggy, or unplayable. So if you use it primarily as a gaming device stick to GB, but if you use it as a phone, you can try out ICS.
I myself have used ICS all this summer, was pretty neat, but the games that didn't work on it and that I really wanted to play made me switch back to GB.

Si1ver Shad0w said:
With ICS you get the latest Android OS and all of its goodies (functions, theme, root etc.), but some games that worked fine on GB are either laggy, buggy, or unplayable. So if you use it primarily as a gaming device stick to GB, but if you use it as a phone, you can try out ICS.
I myself have used ICS all this summer, was pretty neat, but the games that didn't work on it and that I really wanted to play made me switch back to GB.
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Thanks... Does anyone know which games will not work on it? Do emulators work fine?

Pros:
ICS
Cons:
Battery drain, some apps are unstable
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wuby said:
Pros:
ICS
Cons:
Battery drain, some apps are unstable
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How much battery drain?

Why not try it?
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wuby said:
Why not try it?
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Try it out? All that installing and reinstalling can be pretty tedious, especially if I will regret it...

Titanium Backup.
Click thanks if useful.
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wuby said:
Titanium Backup.
Click thanks if useful.
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Thanks, but Titanium Backup is REALLY REALLY far from perfect. I have a ton of apps and reinstalling them with TB is hard to do. Not all the apps will reinstall, then you have to keep figuring out which will install or not install...it's a process that requires hours and hours to do... I even have the paid version.

I'm using CM9.1.0 stable version and I find it laggy and unresponsive at times. More so than I ever noticed when I was on stock GB. I much prefer ICS to GB though so I put up with it. It is annoying at times.

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Thanks... Does anyone know which games will not work on it? Do emulators work fine?
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Emulator worked fine, fpse, tiger arcade, super gnes
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Are there any cons when installing ICS on the r800at? Everytime I try to install ICS Pureness on it, it keeps bricking...so the phone never boots past the SE title/logo...

Did you flashed the ICS beta kernel and den installed?
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You might as well try out Jellybean. It feels so much smoother as any ICS ROM I've used. I'm running Supervenom's ROM with the included kernel and am very impressed with it.

I'm not sure about this, but is PSXperia working on Android 4.0 or 4.1 or up?

neverwinter said:
I'm not sure about this, but is PSXperia working on Android 4.0 or 4.1 or up?
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Nope

jacklebott said:
Nope
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How about FPSE?
And does anyone know which ROM Android 4.1 for XPlay is based on? It wouldn't be the XPlay ICS beta, right?

neverwinter said:
How about FPSE?
And does anyone know which ROM Android 4.1 for XPlay is based on? It wouldn't be the XPlay ICS beta, right?
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FPSe works great on ICS builds. And Android 4.1 ROMs are Jellybean ROMs.
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Thanks... I was wondering, which where do developers get the JB ROM to make a JB ROM? From another device besides PLay?
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neverwinter said:
Thanks... I was wondering, which where do developers get the JB ROM to make a JB ROM? From another device besides PLay?
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From AOSP (Android open source project) aka CyanogenMod 10

Best Custom Rom For Xperia Play

I can't seem to find a Rom that im just 100% happy with. I've tried various GB and ICS roms but still am not happy. I like to play the Asphalt racing series and every rom I've tried on still lags. My Xperia Play 4G I've had unbranded bootloader unlocked and have tried cyanogenmod 7 and 9, I've tried the official ICS, nxt, true ancestor, and various other roms. I don't understand swap file or swap partition usage. Im also a user of supercharger v6 script which im not sure if it actually works. Please advise me.
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Gin2JB or Xperia NXT (i think that's the name). Try overclocking as well. If you don't like V6, you could unsupercharge and try RAM manager from google play store.
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I am currently using darkforest 3.0.5 on my play with a locked bootloader asphalt 7 dont lag for me
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Im diggin the stock 2.3.3 rom. What can you hate about it? Everything works. Sony made sure to get most of our PLAYS functionality were forced to stick with stock to have everything working. =/

The best rom is jin2jellybean with doomkernel governator smartassV2 I/O sio 364mhz - 1305mhz
Inviato dal mio Xperia Play
NXT2JB
Doomkernel 1.4

I believe chery2k is right. Thank you all for your answers.
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I've been using the official ICS Rom forever now but I've been missing game play when I get bored. So I'm heading back stock out of the box firmware with some tweaks and bloat removal of course.
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Well i'm back in stock ville. Lol! But hell now my games are working flawlessly. Removed all Sony crap I didn't use, added supercharger script. Did some other miscellaneous tweaking and now my at&t Xperia Play 4G is back rocking.
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cheeze6661 said:
I've been using the official ICS Rom forever now but I've been missing game play when I get bored. So I'm heading back stock out of the box firmware with some tweaks and bloat removal of course.
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what ICS Official do you use ? is this what you mean ?
i plan to flash this ROM to my Xperia Play , and i plan to unlock the bootloader of my device
what you mean missing the game play ? is the game play getting more laggy on that ROM ?

Yes thats the ics Rom im talking about. I call it official because Sony has been helping that developer finish it. But asphalt 6 and 7 lag on it but very playabe. GTA 3 is unplayable.(same with all ics roms) nova 3 lags. Gingerbread is just what our xperia plays are meant to run. PsXperia games converted for GB are also unsupported. Meaning only ps1 games can play on ics are the small list of officials from the store. so if you want a gaming phone stay with a GB stock or custom rom. Im using 2.3.3 stock with lupus kernel o.c. to 1500ghz and supercharged
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cheeze6661 said:
Yes thats the ics Rom im talking about. I call it official because Sony has been helping that developer finish it. But asphalt 6 and 7 lag on it but very playabe. GTA 3 is unplayable.(same with all ics roms) nova 3 lags. Gingerbread is just what our xperia plays are meant to run. PsXperia games converted for GB are also unsupported. Meaning only ps1 games can play on ics are the small list of officials from the store. so if you want a gaming phone stay with a GB stock or custom rom. Im using 2.3.3 stock with lupus kernel o.c. to 1500ghz and supercharged
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hmmm so some games is still uncompatible with the ROM :crying: even the converted ps pocket games with PSXperia :crying:
but isn't ICS has improved memory management for running apps ? then why the game is more laggy & incompatible
based on your testimonial i guess i cancel my plan to unlock bootloader and flash this ICS ROM + custom kernel , for now
until markphyton can make the very stable release ( let's just hope so ) hehehe
i currently using Xperia NXT 1.3 KrisDee with stock kernel ( locked bootloader ), i found this stable custom ROM for GB and great gaming performance
but i have found a few small problem like , missing DLNA feature , cannot like track in music player ( like on facebook ) , cannot sync with senseMe & cannot charge the battery in OFF posistion

Ive had a bad experience gaming on ics. I dont necessarily say ics is unstable. It has came leaps and bounds from where it was on xperia Play its just I think these devices lack the extra hardware requirements. I.e. Cpu,gpu,ram. Gingerbread unfortunately being outdated is still the most stable for gaming. You can still achieve dlna by using es file explorer and setting up ftp with your router, pc. I access all my home files everywhere on my phone.
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Unlocking your bootloader is still not a bad $20 investment. The test point method is simple, effective, and fast. You also might be able to find flashable addons for those other options you mentioned. Just saying. Im still happy im unbranded and can flash roms and kernels at my desire.
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kgtau said:
hmmm so some games is still uncompatible with the ROM :crying: even the converted ps pocket games with PSXperia :crying:
but isn't ICS has improved memory management for running apps ? then why the game is more laggy & incompatible
based on your testimonial i guess i cancel my plan to unlock bootloader and flash this ICS ROM + custom kernel , for now
until markphyton can make the very stable release ( let's just hope so ) hehehe
i currently using Xperia NXT 1.3 KrisDee with stock kernel ( locked bootloader ), i found this stable custom ROM for GB and great gaming performance
but i have found a few small problem like , missing DLNA feature , cannot like track in music player ( like on facebook ) , cannot sync with senseMe & cannot charge the battery in OFF posistion
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Same configuration as yours, but i 'm still planning to unlock bootloader. Not for install ICS roms (i want keep this NXT Rom 1.3, is the best rom IMHO) , but because i want overclock a litlle bit, let 's say 1.4-1.6. because i see in latest games litttle lags are annoying, like Need for Speed most wanted, MC3, ...

Dany XP said:
Same configuration as yours, but i 'm still planning to unlock bootloader. Not for install ICS roms (i want keep this NXT Rom 1.3, is the best rom IMHO) , but because i want overclock a litlle bit, let 's say 1.4-1.6. because i see in latest games litttle lags are annoying, like Need for Speed most wanted, MC3, ...
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You wont be disappointed after unlocking your bootloader. I recommend the lupus GBv5 kernel and dont forget to flash the lupus wifi modules afterwards.
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cheeze6661 said:
You wont be disappointed after unlocking your bootloader. I recommend the lupus GBv5 kernel and dont forget to flash the lupus wifi modules afterwards.
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But people reccomend me doomlord kernel. What about it? Differences?

Doomlord has moved on to newer devices. Lupus is still being updated for our plays.
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If your using pads: Xperia NXT... No doubt about it... Smooth, fast, compatible, Android 2.3.7 xD...
I dont play games that uses the pads, just the DPad, so i'm using SlimBean 3 (By CJ360), and waiting for the fix for Wifi/DeepSleep... Otherwise, is a excellent ROM. smooth and fast as hell, maybe more than GB...

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Ive had a bad experience gaming on ics. I dont necessarily say ics is unstable. It has came leaps and bounds from where it was on xperia Play its just I think these devices lack the extra hardware requirements. I.e. Cpu,gpu,ram. Gingerbread unfortunately being outdated is still the most stable for gaming. You can still achieve dlna by using es file explorer and setting up ftp with your router, pc. I access all my home files everywhere on my phone.
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cheeze6661 said:
Unlocking your bootloader is still not a bad $20 investment. The test point method is simple, effective, and fast. You also might be able to find flashable addons for those other options you mentioned. Just saying. Im still happy im unbranded and can flash roms and kernels at my desire.
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so Xperia Play HW is not good enough for ICS , hmmm so maybe the other 2011 Xperia product is laggy even on official ICS
yeah i want to unlocking the bootloader , is it worth for flashing other custom kernel ? is the differences is significant ?
and one problem is , i dont want to lose the DRM on my devices , so i prefer the testpoint method , but i find it hard to remove the sticker on the back of the phone it's very sticky , lol :laugh:
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Same configuration as yours, but i 'm still planning to unlock bootloader. Not for install ICS roms (i want keep this NXT Rom 1.3, is the best rom IMHO) , but because i want overclock a litlle bit, let 's say 1.4-1.6. because i see in latest games litttle lags are annoying, like Need for Speed most wanted, MC3, ...
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yeah right , NFS MW is lil bit laggy on Xperia Play
many user that have downloaded it & play that game on Xperia Play have the same lag experience :laugh:
is it possible b'coz the low class speed SD Card ?
btw , did you have the same problem like me on this ROM ? is it the bug or there's something wrong with the custom ROM that i have installed ? like a false step maybe ? lol
TerryXP2600 said:
If your using pads: Xperia NXT... No doubt about it... Smooth, fast, compatible, Android 2.3.7 xD...
I dont play games that uses the pads, just the DPad, so i'm using SlimBean 3 (By CJ360), and waiting for the fix for Wifi/DeepSleep... Otherwise, is a excellent ROM. smooth and fast as hell, maybe more than GB...
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yeah , it's fast & smooth
i hope KrisDee can contnue his work on this ROM , hehehe

kgtau said:
so Xperia Play HW is not good enough for ICS , hmmm so maybe the other 2011 Xperia product is laggy even on official ICS
yeah i want to unlocking the bootloader , is it worth for flashing other custom kernel ? is the differences is significant ?
and one problem is , i dont want to lose the DRM on my devices , so i prefer the testpoint method , but i find it hard to remove the sticker on the back of the phone it's very sticky , lol :laugh:
yeah right , NFS MW is lil bit laggy on Xperia Play
many user that have downloaded it & play that game on Xperia Play have the same lag experience :laugh:
is it possible b'coz the low class speed SD Card ?
btw , did you have the same problem like me on this ROM ? is it the bug or there's something wrong with the custom ROM that i have installed ? like a false step maybe ? lol
yeah , it's fast & smooth
i hope KrisDee can contnue his work on this ROM , hehehe
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Its totally worth being able to flash custom kernel. Id say the changes are significant. And removing the sticker is the hardest part of the test point method. You wont lose drm either.
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If your using pads: Xperia NXT... No doubt about it... Smooth, fast, compatible, Android 2.3.7 xD...
I dont play games that uses the pads, just the DPad, so i'm using SlimBean 3 (By CJ360), and waiting for the fix for Wifi/DeepSleep... Otherwise, is a excellent ROM. smooth and fast as hell, maybe more than GB...
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Slimbean.... Hmmm interesting. Didn't think jelly bean would be stable so never tried it.
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[Q] Xperia PLAY ICS full working ROM

Hi there.
I need ICS ROM for Xplay with everything working, especially TOUCHPADS and GAMEPAD
Is there any ICS rom that full support touchpads and really works, i found neo2play rom, xperia play zeus final v5 rom, and in description i reed that touchpads are supported 100% but when i tried games like mc2, nova 2, rainbow six etc. when i touch the touchpads, games forces close :/
Touchpads only worked on fifa 12 and 9mm(in games that i tried).
And what about official sony ICS beta for PLAY? Does it have full supported touchpads, anyone tried it ? If it has full working touchpads, than i'll have to relock my bootloader and install that rom because i really need ICS rom with everything full working.
Please post a link of a ICS rom thread(if there is any) with full working touchpads and gamepads.

Hi, you can try krisdee's hybrid ROM or the Darkforest ROM. The first one is lighter so it's better for gaming but the second one looks more like ICs. Trough, why don't you use a GB ROM for gaming insteand than an ICs one? ICs ROMs are heavier and less friendly with RAM than GB ones. I don't know how could nova be playable on an ICs ROM :S anyway i'm a new user here and i haven't got enough messages to post links but the krisdee's rom is easy to find but the Darkforest must be uploaded again.
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WhiteWashed said:
Hi, you can try krisdee's hybrid ROM or the Darkforest ROM. The first one is lighter so it's better for gaming but the second one looks more like ICs. Trough, why don't you use a GB ROM for gaming insteand than an ICs one? ICs ROMs are heavier and less friendly with RAM than GB ones. I don't know how could nova be playable on an ICs ROM :S anyway i'm a new user here and i haven't got enough messages to post links but the krisdee's rom is easy to find but the Darkforest must be uploaded again.
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I need ICS rom because some apps that i use need android 4+ to instal
I only need ICS ROM with everything working well.
In last days I tried about 10 different ROMs and in every ROM i reed that touchpads work perfect, i tested it and whenever i touch the touchpads in modern combat 2, it gives me FC, same thing in rainbow six and brother in arms
could this problem be kernel releted? because i always use lupus ics/gb v7 720p stock based kernel.
OR could apks of games be a problem, i downloaded tham all in one pack(gameloft games) and let them download their data over wifi.

Krisdee's hybrid ROM should have full working touchpads. Search it here on xda and try it. Anyway i don't think it's a kernel problem...
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Krisdee's hybrid ROM should have full working touchpads. Search it here on xda and try it. Anyway i don't think it's a kernel problem...
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I just flashed it and tried modern combat 2 again, and still there is the same problem, when i play with touchpads, game forces close, now i'm spectic and i think that this isn't problem with ROM's, it's problem with me, but what i could do wrong ? fifa 12 and 9mm are fully working on touchpads, but all gameloft games don't work on touchpads, i tried to download new apks optimized for Xperia Play and still the same "force close" when touching the touchpads :/
If anyone knows the fix please reply

senadin001 said:
I just flashed it and tried modern combat 2 again, and still there is the same problem, when i play with touchpads, game forces close, now i'm spectic and i think that this isn't problem with ROM's, it's problem with me, but what i could do wrong ? fifa 12 and 9mm are fully working on touchpads, but all gameloft games don't work on touchpads, i tried to download new apks optimized for Xperia Play and still the same "force close" when touching the touchpads :/
If anyone knows the fix please reply
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I think the problem are the games in fact modern combat 4 works fine for me, touchpads too.
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There is no ICS/JB rom with touchpads working on ALL games. If the games you want can't be played on ICS/JB then stay on GB. Or use ICS/JB rom and, with tears in your eyes, remember the good old times when all games was working with touchpads...
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I think the problem are the games in fact modern combat 4 works fine for me, touchpads too.
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Now tried 2.3.7 Gin2KitKat GB ROM and touchpads works in modern combat 2 and in brothers in arms 2 , maybe ICS ROMs aren't optimized for "some games"(like mc2, bia2 etc.) I didn't try mc4 but now i'll try it too to see if it's working on some ICS ROM on my phone, i reply when i test it.

And if you really need ics ROM you can try the multiboot.
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And if you really need ics ROM you can try the multiboot.
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thanks for helping
Bakisha said:
There is no ICS/JB rom with touchpads working on ALL games. If the games you want can't be played on ICS/JB then stay on GB. Or use ICS/JB rom and, with tears in your eyes, remember the good old times when all games was working with touchpads...
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this thread can be closed because bakisha expleined me just what i need to know.
Thanks a lot.