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[Q] Scratched screen already!

O.k. I don't know how it happened as I keep my phone in my pocket without keys or sand. Within about 4 days the screen was scratched bad. I have the 14 day return period and am thinking about trying to get it replaced but I don't know if they will let me know. I'm pissed because my original Vibrant lasted me 1.5 years naked and never scratched. Are they using softer glass? Who knows for sure. Anyone know if I can return it? They are also now stating that it's an automatic $50 restocking fee no matter what (unless it's malfunctioning). I'm bummed and have to decide tonight as to what to do. Any suggestions?

This is quite surprising. I thought they are using the best unbreakable glass called "Gorilla Glass"...

I don't have scratches yet but there's a light purple layer that I can see has been "smeared off" and it bugs the he'll out of me :-(
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I got a light scratch after 2 days, it happen while laying in bed on charge, smh.
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That sucks.. Sorry to hear. I kept the gay screen cover that was on the phone when I bought it for like a week before I got my dry zagg screen protector
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Gorilla glass can be scratched. Just to let you know it isn't full proof. Fortunately can be fixed with machine glaze and a micro fiber cloth or you can just use a screen protector in the first place.

Naked on the vibrant since release and ive been naked on the SGS II since release. I did break a vibrant screen by sitting on it but never any scratches.

Why taking a chance with such a huge and beautiful screen.... just proctect it!!, here is a guy I got mine from they are excellent screen protector for $3.65 you can get six of them shipped, I got mine and I couldn't believe the great quality, you can highly see them and literally you can't feel them on the screen... I totally love them!!

that's why i always always always use a screen protector regardless of what type of unbreakable glass it's using

No restocking fee for same device within grace period
sent from my real Gs move in silence like lasagna

Restocking only if returning which is bs.
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got a random scratch also, had my vibrant forever and it never scratched. Two weeks with this and scratched. Its barely noticeable but i see it and i dont want it no more.
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AllGamer said:
that's why i always always always use a screen protector regardless of what type of unbreakable glass it's using
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+1 Same here, I wouldn't be able to handle a scratch on my screen. A screen protector can always be removed and replaced.
Hercules Hercules!!

Thanks for the input guys. I went in and got it exchanged. I guess I'll need to protect this one. I'm surprised that it's so vulnerable compared to my Vibrant. With my Vibrant, I carried that thing with my keys, coins, thumbtacks, diamonds, sand, metal daggers, you name it, and I did so with no protection. Not one scratch at all! Just be warned, even though it's Gorilla Glass, it's very easily scratched, so protect this one! I'm not liking the idea of putting a cover over the beautiful screen. Oh well...

Lol. No glove no love.
johnnyh64 said:
Thanks for the input guys. I went in and got it exchanged. I guess I'll need to protect this one. I'm surprised that it's so vulnerable compared to my Vibrant. With my Vibrant, I carried that thing with my keys, coins, thumbtacks, diamonds, sand, metal daggers, you name it, and I did so with no protection. Not one scratch at all! Just be warned, even though it's Gorilla Glass, it's very easily scratched, so protect this one! I'm not liking the idea of putting a cover over the beautiful screen. Oh well...
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chib1panda said:
Lol. No glove no love.
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+1 LOL
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Tiny scratch...

I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).

jason2302 said:
I'm extremely careful with my devices, and the slightest damages can get me pissed off like nobody can imagine.
Today I used a pixel tester to see if I had any scratches on my screen, and sure enough, there was an extremely small scratch, that you can barely see, even with your eyes right up to the screen. I had a very hard time even keeping my eye on it. But still, just the idea of a scratch pissed me off so much.
Is this a sign of what's to come? I didn't think I would need a screen protector. I thought the reinforced glass would be just as good as Gorilla Glass, but I guess not, since none of my past Androids have had scratches on them before. None at all.
Should I spend $20 that I don't even have yet on a screen protector? I don't want the screen quality to go down, and I can't put screen protectors on on my own, so I usually pay BestBuy to put Zaggs on, which they mess up by trapping dirt under. I'm not going insane over the scratch, but I keep thinking about what could possibly happen next.
I have a TPU case on my phone's exterior, and I keep the phone in a silk pouch when it's in my pocket (that pocket is dedicated to the phone only, by the way).
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Try Ghost Armor.
It will fill in the scratch.
Its nearly invisible (you can only see the outline if you look for it).
They will put it on for you.
Its $20 with a lifetime guarantee.
It feels like the actual screen.
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So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen.
And not sure why you "can't put screen protectors on". Apparently you're unhappy with the way they do it. Just follow the instructions and do it yourself.
Seems like you're being a bit contradictory.

martonikaj said:
So you're extremely anal about scratches, but you don't use a screen protector? It doesn't matter what the screen is made of, its not invincible. Things happen. /QUOTE]
Agree 100%
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Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
if you buy an expensive gadget spend a couple dollars and get a screen protector a few dollars now may save you alot more if you damage it. Glass, coating or no coating will always scratch.

Spend $300 + on a device but won't spend $10-$20 on a screen protector. Then cry when the screen gets a scratch, only one at fault here is you. If you're that OCD about your devices to hold the phone up right infront of you eyes... No comment there.

Zagg that's all I'm going to say, applied it to my baby when she came right out of the box because I'm the same way about my screen but go the extra mile and spend the $10 to $20 on a good screen protector lol .
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I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I've had my GN for 3 weeks, no scratches, and it's been dropped from about 2 feet of the ground twice (indoors).

nyijedi said:
I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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I dont feel degraded at all. Imported hk screen protector at that.
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nyijedi said:
I love when people imply that those who don't use screen protectors are either cheap, lazy, or dumb, yet ignore the fact that every screen protector out there degrades the look and/or feel of the screen in some manner. Some of us that are anal about scratches are just as anal about "ruining" the screen with a protector. Just saying.
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No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.

reuthermonkey said:
No offense, but getting annoyed about an almost imperceptible scratch on a device that you take with you everywhere you go day-in-day-out is like complaining when your nice shoes get wet. Yeah, I know you paid a lot for the thing, but the thing isn't made of unicorn-tears.
As another poster said: reality is going to happen and you have to make a concession. Protect your investment with a screen protector and take the visual hit, or enjoy the beauty of the device, but risk it getting a few scratches from normal use.
Personally I used to have a Zagg screen protector for my G1 and then my Vibrant for a few months. The Vibrant had Gorilla Glass so I got rid of the Zagg protector and was happier for it. I have enough other crap to worry about than whether my (rapidly) depreciating electronics item gets a scuff on it.
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Great post. You hit the nail right on the head, especially with your middle paragraph.

It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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noobdeagle said:
Seriously too many of these threads, this glass and gorilla glass is basically the same, just because you got lucky with a device with gorilla glass and not the GN is just that LUCK!, my cowon S9 has gorilla glass and it was scratched from just being in my pocket.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.

hbkmog said:
It can't be stressed enough that reinforced glass isn't scratch proof. And a good screen protector doesn't affect the screen quality.
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If you don't see or feel the difference, then that's good for you. Seriously. Every screen protector I've ever tried - and I've wasted a lot of money trying a lot - changes the way the screen looks in some way. Whether it's a visible texture (i.e., "orange peel" effect) or slight dulling of the colors on the screen, they do affect the screen quality in some manner. And that's not even taking the feel of the screen protectors into account.
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No it's not. It's not even close. I don't know why some of you persist on saying this but it simply isn't true. There are others like myself on here who have owned a gorilla glass phone for over a year and next to no one has a scratch on them. Yet we all have tiny scratches on our GN's after mere weeks. And that's absolutely babying the device compared to not giving a **** with the gorilla glass device. You do the math.
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I have to agree with this. I've come to accept the fact that this glass isn't as durable as other glass since I absolutely love this phone, but to insist that this glass is on par with other, more durable glass is being dishonest or uninformed.

I have to agree with nyijedi and vapotrini here. I thought the days of needing a screen protector were long in the past, as they should be. I wasn't nearly as careful with my SGS2 and had no problem putting it in my bare pocket. I just inspected it and saw absolutely no signs of even the smallest scratch.
Yet, I had my GNex out of the packaging for a total of 1 day before I noticed a small, visible scratch on my screen simply from either having it in the pocket of my dress pants or using the touch screen with my finger. I am a germ freak who washes my hands at least 10 times a day. I don't roll around in the dirt either so I assure you that my pockets are as clean as they can possibly be.
You guys say that after spending $300 on a phone you should be forced to spend an additional $20+ for a screen protector. But I say that a $300 phone should not have a screen with coating that can be scratched simply by putting it in your pocket. I understand that glass scratches, including Gorilla Glass. But it takes much more to scratch other Android phones than it does to scratch this thing.
It's a design flaw, pure and simple. This is a problem the first touch screen phones had. A brand new phone like this should not have such a stupid issue IMO.

What exactly is stupid about the fact that everything is susceptible to damage? No one forced you to buy the phone and no one will force you to buy a screen protector for it. Be thankful you've got the cash for something so nice in the first place and if you don't want any scratched then get a protector or leave it on the box and never use it. Or, just don't buy a screen protector at all.
Its as simple as that.
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You are missing the point completely.
Let me simplify this - You can walk into the local store of any mobile carrier right now and pay less than $100 for a phone that you can use as normal on a daily basis (including putting it in your pocket), without worrying about scratching the screen. Yet, our $750 phone scratches the second you put it in your pocket and you don't see a problem with that?

The problem is that ALL of you are talking without any sufficient data to prove your point.
To make a valid statement about the quality/hardness of the GN display, you need to either scientifically test it and/or compare a lot of phones in standardized practical tests.
Unless you have done that, none of you can say anything valid about the screen.
"I am super careful with my phone, haven't scratched any of my 5 dozen phones before but I scratched my GN in 3 days" doesn't say anything at all about the glass quality and neither does the opposite.

2 scratch test videos right off youtube. Not definitive, of course, but seems to fair well to a knife and some keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyLC61JxsJQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkcYWwqO7oI
That 2nd one breaks my heart since he's stratching the hell out of the phone AS HE'S ACTIVATING IT. Hasn't even let it get to the home screen before he tries to destroy it.

Do I need a screen protector?

Hey guy, I've have a screen protector on my phone since day 1 but recently I took it off and my screen so much more beautiful without it. Is anyone using this phone without a protector? Is it resistant against scratch? Is there a type that's not noticeable at all?
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screen protector is necessary.

I have sgp ultra nano clear and it's virtually invisible.

Keep it on I know the screen looks better without it until u get your first scratch
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The glass on our phone is very fragile. You can easily crack it from a few foot drop.. It's not as strong as the sgs2.
Get a screen protector.. Not worth the cost to repair it..
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I have my phone in a case with an invisible shield. By the time it comes to replace it will look like new.
Otherwise scratches and dents will occur.
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I highly suggest keeping a screen protector on- or for that matter a case would be ideal. I already got 2 deep scratches on my phone and highly regret it.

Go without the protector. Get a good case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhoF564nJ_Q

I don't use one, and I've even dropped it face down a few times, and haven't had a problem yet.
Hopefully I haven't just jinxed myself.

No you don't need a screen protector, they do nothing other than getting scratch, smudge and decrease the clarity of your screen. Another problem is the touch feeling of touching the glass.
For any discussion about scratches >> IT DOES NOT HAPPENS !!!
The Gorilla glass 2 on the galaxy s3 is probably the best glass in the market, doesn't scratch or easily breaks. Though the problem is the frame which scratch on drop.
I used my galaxy s3 for 3 weeks, got my screen protector on for the first 4 days and just took it off, it's just degrading my phone. I current own an iphone 4, new ipad, iphone 4s and i know they all scratches at some point, but not this galaxy s3.

Tokarin said:
No you don't need a screen protector, they do nothing other than getting scratch, smudge and decrease the clarity of your screen. Another problem is the touch feeling of touching the glass.
For any discussion about scratches >> IT DOES NOT HAPPENS !!!
The Gorilla glass 2 on the galaxy s3 is probably the best glass in the market, doesn't scratch or easily breaks. Though the problem is the frame which scratch on drop.
I used my galaxy s3 for 3 weeks, got my screen protector on for the first 4 days and just took it off, it's just degrading my phone. I current own an iphone 4, new ipad, iphone 4s and i know they all scratches at some point, but not this galaxy s3.
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This. I was scared of not using protection with this expensive phone (even though I had a Droid X for over two years without a single scratch).
I bought a Zagg HD and thought it was great....for the first couple of days. Then I realized I hate the feeling, scratched easier than normal glass! and turned a weird yellow color after a month. So I recently ditched it.
WOW, almost forgot how much more beautiful this screen is naked!

You guys have been sold by advertising.
The glass in our phone sucks. Why do you think there are so many threads about diy repair in these Forums?
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There have been a lot of videos with people using razor blades and forks to try and scratch the screen and it looks really awesome. I have had Gorilla Glass screens in the past that had the same things done to them and somehow they got scratched when I used them. I don't know how it happens (maybe diamond wielding gremlins sneak into my pockets and do their evil deed when I am not looking), but it happens.
I am a 'better safe than sorry' kind of guy. I know that if I got a scratch on my screen it would bug me until I bought a new phone so I am putting on a screen protector. I have tried the Zagg on other phones (and on my iPad) and I hate the feel of it. To be honest, I have found that the cheap screen protectors work very well and are quite clear. If/when they scratch.... Put on another one and it looks new again. At around a buck each it's no big deal.
Actually... My HTC Sensation and my Samsung - whatever the first Galaxy was on Tmobile - still have the original cheap screen protectors on them so one dollar protected them for as long as I used them.
Put me down for "use a screen protector" (but not an expensive one).

I had my phone for about a week without a screen protector and it looked gorgeous. Not a single scratch. I had a Motorola Photon before for 8 months and it also has gorilla glass. I can tell you, the glass does stand well, but it showed some small scratches after that long (and I'm not rough).
After my first week owning the phone, I had it in my pocket while sitting down and it slipped out onto the tile below. Screen shattered. I don't have insurance so I had to spend $200 for my own screen to replace it. It sucked.
A screen protector seems like a useless product, and the good ones (invisible ones) are expensive, but trust me, its a lot cheaper than a new screen. Also invest in a good case. My bezel has a scuff from the fall.

Ive never used a screen protector, and luckily I haven't scratched my screen either. Have been using N7000 since first week it was released in Sweden. Have only dropped it twice, once from pocket height on concrete floor, once from nightstand table.. both times face down of course, haha. Except from that I'm careful with my Note, only put it in a pocket where there is nothing else, and face up when I leave it on for example a table. I've never seen a screen protector I would like to use myself, so I'm careful with my phone instead and if I scratch the screen I guess I'll have to replace it or buy a Note 2. But rather that than having screen protector on in my opinion
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shaahinjjj said:
Hey guy, I've have a screen protector on my phone since day 1 but recently I took it off and my screen so much more beautiful without it. Is anyone using this phone without a protector? Is it resistant against scratch? Is there a type that's not noticeable at all?
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Hi, guy doesn't it feel better without a rubber on? Same thing you take a risk but it feels better. :highfive:

I'd have to say use a screen protector. It's the first thing I purchase when getting a new handset
Sony Ericsson P800, numerous XDA variants, a HD2 and now my S3 all have them, and as yet all my screens are immaculate
If you've got a $35 handset then treat it like one, if you've got a $500 handset then at least respect it a little

I even have accidental protection with no deductible through best buy and still have a case and protector lol
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Id say if you have insurance on the phone, then I wouldnt use one. I had the similar scenario as you; had a screen protector for ~1 month and removed it and realized how beautiful the screen was, haha.

Just ordered an otterbox defender, did i make a mistake?

I recently won a bid on ebay for a note II so naturally i want to protect it the best i can. I am the type of person who can be a bit hard on phones. I drop them, sometimes things can fall on them and so on so i need good protection. I pretty much have an otterbox on everything i own so i figured i would order one for my note II. Im wondering if i made a mistake because the reviews im reading arent very good. Can anyone comment about the case on the note II? Most things im reading is the outside stretches quickly and the plastic screen protector really diminishes the quality of the screen. If this is a bad case, can someone recommend the best solution for protecting the phone AND the screen, even if its two seperate parts.

I have the otterbox for note 2. Hasn't stretched at all. It's a chore to get it off really.
My wife's gs3 otterbox has stretched. But this one is much better.
It's great for falls, but it's not sealed as much as the evo otterbox. Not sure this case would save the note 2 from a fall in the dog water bowl like evo did.
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I have the otterbox for note 2. Hasn't stretched at all. It's a chore to get it off really.
My wife's gs3 otterbox has stretched. But this one is much better.
It's great for falls, but it's not sealed as much as the evo otterbox. Not sure this case would save the note 2 from a fall in the dog water bowl like evo did.
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How bad does the screen protector deminish screen quality?

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How bad does the screen protector deminish screen quality?
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Not any more than the evo or gs3 cases. Any time you put a screen protector on, it's not going to be quite the same.
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I....reviews im reading arent very good. ...[the] the outside stretches quickly and the plastic screen protector really diminishes the quality of the screen. ...
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Not trying to pick on you. But statements like this make me shake my head. Big deal the case scratches. It's better the case than the phone, right? Not that I'm ignorant, and know you don't want some case that's going to look like a cat scratching toy after a month. From what I read, usually the shinny slick cases tend to show more scratches.
As for the screen, I don't think you'll notice much if any deminished screen output from the screen protector if you've been using the Otterbox Defender on previous phones. I don't think it's that likely the screen protector is that much different from other Defenders for other phones.
My guess, I think you're psyching yourself out.

When I had my otterbox, I removed the built in "screen protector" and had a zagg on it. I dont like the built in one as sand and small particles can get inbetween screen and the "protector" and when you use it. Your mashing thos into the screen. I would advise you to remove the screen protector and install your own directly onto the phone. Other than that great case.
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With the evo, it was so sealed I didn't want to change screen protectors. With the note 2, that may be an option. But I think that would be the case with any note 2 case
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lovekeiiy said:
Not trying to pick on you. But statements like this make me shake my head. Big deal the case scratches. It's better the case than the phone, right? Not that I'm ignorant, and know you don't want some case that's going to look like a cat scratching toy after a month. From what I read, usually the shinny slick cases tend to show more scratches.
As for the screen, I don't think you'll notice much if any deminished screen output from the screen protector if you've been using the Otterbox Defender on previous phones. I don't think it's that likely the screen protector is that much different from other Defenders for other phones.
My guess, I think you're psyching yourself out.
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Apparently you are ignorant. I said stretches, as in the rubber stretches quickly causing it not to stay on the phone, no scratches.

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When I had my otterbox, I removed the built in "screen protector" and had a zagg on it. I dont like the built in one as sand and small particles can get inbetween screen and the "protector" and when you use it. Your mashing thos into the screen. I would advise you to remove the screen protector and install your own directly onto the phone. Other than that great case.
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I like this idea and think ill do this. Can you recommend a good screen protector that doesn't degrade the quality much?

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Apparently you are ignorant. I said stretches, as in the rubber stretches quickly causing it not to stay on the phone, no scratches.
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Well, as lovely of compliment that is, either I don't know know the difference between stretch and scratch, or I wasn't paying close enough attention. Given what I wrote, the safer bet is the later. Thus, my most of drabble was not on point. But I digress....
Back to the topic at hand, As for screen protectors, I suggest checking out this thread, Screen Protector Reviews in the international GN2 subforum. It's 28 pages of this morning. I stopped reading it about a month or so ago. There was another thread, even longer, but it got removed.
Personally, I use the Just Like Glass screen protector. It's a wet application. Covers all viewable screen, but doesn't go to the edge. So cases that go over the edge won't push on it, like TPU cases with lips don't play nice with screen protectors that do go the edge. I'm not sure how the defender sits on the phone off the top of my head, so not sure if the JLG would work well or not. Since you're so rough on phones, it may be. JLG uses similar tech to hurricane glass, and claim it adds 35% shatter resistance; their numbers, not mine. It's stiff, really thin, and it feels very similar to the actual glass. I like it.
It's not perfect. It will get small scratches. I have a couple, but I rarely notice them. There is a rainbow effect that can be seen under halogen lights and the screen off. When the screen is on, you don't see it, at least I never have. It's a side effect from the UV protection the protector has. Some complain that screen protector scratches easily. I don't know how easily, but I have a few, but I don't see them when the display is on. I'm not sure if they came with one or not, but I know JLG owner was looking into getting a dry application model. Plus, unless something has changed, JLG goes give good customer service. Shoot an email to the ower, some guy named Scott, and he'll work with you as much as possible. He knows screen protector isn't for everyone.
It also works very well with the Spen. Others have had issues, from what I read, with Zagg Invisishield. The Spen sticks, unresponsive, to actaully scratching the screen protector. Some have said the Zagg's HD works well. But from what I gathered, for the Spen to work well, you'll want to get the thinner protects, which end up being less scratch resistant.
Here a picture of my GN2 shortly after I put it on:
if you click the picture, you can see a really big picture. But you can see how much of the GN2 it covers. I use a Cruzerlite TPU clear case. I'm still using the same screen protector and case, which has been close to six months.
For me, as long as the flaws are noticeable when the screen is on, it doesn't bother me. It's currently being sold for $13.50, so it's one of the more reasonable priced protectors. It only comes packaged with one protector.
Hopefully that helps.

lovekeiiy said:
Well, as lovely of compliment that is, either I don't know know the difference between stretch and scratch, or I wasn't paying close enough attention. Given what I wrote, the safer bet is the later. Thus, my most of drabble was not on point. But I digress....
Back to the topic at hand, As for screen protectors, I suggest checking out this thread, Screen Protector Reviews in the international GN2 subforum. It's 28 pages of this morning. I stopped reading it about a month or so ago. There was another thread, even longer, but it got removed.
Personally, I use the Just Like Glass screen protector. It's a wet application. Covers all viewable screen, but doesn't go to the edge. So cases that go over the edge won't push on it, like TPU cases with lips don't play nice with screen protectors that do go the edge. I'm not sure how the defender sits on the phone off the top of my head, so not sure if the JLG would work well or not. Since you're so rough on phones, it may be. JLG uses similar tech to hurricane glass, and claim it adds 35% shatter resistance; their numbers, not mine. It's stiff, really thin, and it feels very similar to the actual glass. I like it.
It's not perfect. It will get small scratches. I have a couple, but I rarely notice them. There is a rainbow effect that can be seen under halogen lights and the screen off. When the screen is on, you don't see it, at least I never have. It's a side effect from the UV protection the protector has. Some complain that screen protector scratches easily. I don't know how easily, but I have a few, but I don't see them when the display is on. I'm not sure if they came with one or not, but I know JLG owner was looking into getting a dry application model. Plus, unless something has changed, JLG goes give good customer service. Shoot an email to the ower, some guy named Scott, and he'll work with you as much as possible. He knows screen protector isn't for everyone.
It also works very well with the Spen. Others have had issues, from what I read, with Zagg Invisishield. The Spen sticks, unresponsive, to actaully scratching the screen protector. Some have said the Zagg's HD works well. But from what I gathered, for the Spen to work well, you'll want to get the thinner protects, which end up being less scratch resistant.
Here a picture of my GN2 shortly after I put it on:
if you click the picture, you can see a really big picture. But you can see how much of the GN2 it covers. I use a Cruzerlite TPU clear case. I'm still using the same screen protector and case, which has been close to six months.
For me, as long as the flaws are noticeable when the screen is on, it doesn't bother me. It's currently being sold for $13.50, so it's one of the more reasonable priced protectors. It only comes packaged with one protector.
Hopefully that helps.
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I appreciate the reply. After doing a ton of searching, I found just about everyone who bought a SGP Ultra Oleophobic seemed to love it so I'm gonna try that. I wanted to get the just like glass but the wet application sort of scared me away. I'll report my findings when I get it and the phone.

JamesChilds said:
When I had my otterbox, I removed the built in "screen protector" and had a zagg on it. I dont like the built in one as sand and small particles can get inbetween screen and the "protector" and when you use it. Your mashing thos into the screen. I would advise you to remove the screen protector and install your own directly onto the phone. Other than that great case.
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I agree with this.
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I really like zagg. They give you lifetime warranty so if protector begins to peel you can get another for free.
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JamesChilds said:
I really like zagg. They give you lifetime warranty so if protector begins to peel you can get another for free.
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Not really free. You have to return the original and pay for shipping. Now Otterbox's warranty is second to none. Just send it pics of damage and they will send you out a replacement completely free of charge. Now when I bought the first black Defender I had a pretty nice gap between the built in screen protector and the phone's screen. It really was annoying especially playing games or texting. I ended up giving that one to my wife and buying the grey/white one off Amazon for $35. This one has no gap and fits like its supposed to. It's been a few months and I've had no problem with dust in screen or silicone stretching. This one seems to be built correctly. Not so much for the Defender for my EvoLTE. Been a year and I'm on my 5th one.
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Otterbox Warranty: they didn't even request a picture when my evo case broke. Just took down the info and sent me a new one and told me to discard the old one.
I was amazed. Shows how much they stand behind their product.
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I bought the white glacer outer box with holster and only used it one day....its too big any one wants to buy it send me a pm.
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I popped out the screen protector part as dust kept getting in the stupid hole they cut in it. My phone stays in my pocket with nothing else so no scratches on the screen. If I'm going to throw my phone in my wife's bag when traveling or something like that I bring the clip to protect it. Worked for me so far..

I'm a contractor and I've put my otter box through hell, I remove it every night and have for six months and it hasn't stretched a bit. My phone is still cherry because of this case, I've dropped it 10 feet gotten concrete on it and it's coated in crap every day. Once you get used to all the iPhone kids making fun of the size it's awesome!
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They make fun because they are jealous.
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maybe. I think it's more from ignorance and being mindless Apple-drones.

What's the point of a screen protector?

I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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Yeah, I never understand it either. You buy a phone with a nice-ass screen and cover it up with some cheap plastic. Almost 2 years, my S4 is still looking good without any screen protectors.

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Yeah, I never understand it either. You buy a phone with a nice-ass screen and cover it up with some cheap plastic. Almost 2 years, my S4 is still looking good without any screen protectors.
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Not to mention air bubbles, they get discolored after a while, you can't enjoy the screen quality, and I looked it up. Apprarently Gorilla glass can get scratched by a steel file, but nothing less.
Basically, unless you're carryimg around an iron file in your pockets, and putting your phone with it, you're good.
And yes, knives, and keys can scratch your screen, but you have to go out of your way to scratch it. It won't scratch if in contact like your pockets or something.
The only real risk of screen damage (realistically I'm real life settings) is dropping it. A screen protector isn't saving that. And if you work construction, a screen protector ain't saving your screen from what ever a gonna damage it on the site.
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I must admit there is a small scratch on the screen, visible at a certain angle with the screen off, but I don't look at my phone at that angle or with the screen off.

I've had a screen protector and Commuter series Otterbox case on mine since day one. I've only had to change the screen protector like 3 times in almost two years, and that's only because they started losing their resistance to fingerprints. I've never had any problems with air bubbles or screen dimming because I didn't buy el cheapo screen protectors, but they weren't expensive either.
After all this time, I can take off the case and screen protector and my S4 still looks like it did the day I bought it.
It's a small price to pay for keeping your phone in great condition. No doubt the next owner will appreciate it when I decide to upgrade.

tikay00 said:
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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Strong and scratch resistant...not scratch-proof...big difference.
A good case can protect the screen from taking a skid across concrete just as well though.

I hear spider web makes a great screen protector.
Pp. Lol

KennyG123 said:
Strong and scratch resistant...not scratch-proof...big difference.
A good case can protect the screen from taking a skid across concrete just as well though.
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This.
Scratching can be done with less than a steel file.
I keep my phone in my front pocket and the only other thing that is ever in that pocket is paper money. Nothing else ever goes in that pocket.
I have 2 small scratches after 18 months. Neither visible when the screen is on...but there none the less. Best I can figure is they are from the metal rivets in my jeans.
A screen protector would have prevented that. But would have also lowered the quality of the screen in the mean time. Its a trade off. And each person has to decide which is more important to them.

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This.
Scratching can be done with less than a steel file.
I keep my phone in my front pocket and the only other thing that is ever in that pocket is paper money. Nothing else ever goes in that pocket.
I have 2 small scratches after 18 months. Neither visible when the screen is on...but there none the less. Best I can figure is they are from the metal rivets in my jeans.
A screen protector would have prevented that. But would have also lowered the quality of the screen in the mean time. Its a trade off. And each person has to decide which is more important to them.
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Been putting my phone in various pockets for the longest time, and absolutely no scratches. I don't know what you guys are doing to your phones. That sucks.
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Phone case is a different story. Need one. Screen protector, I don't get. I got one with my case, and I don't even use it. These screens do not scratch unless you're very reckless.
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tikay00 said:
I thought gorilla glass was supposed to be so strong?
Unless you're keying your screen, why need one? It makes it look dimmer, and they look ugly.
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ive thought the same thing. so i didnt use them.
but i only buy flagships and the keep good resale value to put towards my next one.
so in that case, i use them to get the scratches on the plastic and the real screen is still fresh.
i also feel the same about cases! they make your phone look like tupperware!
resale resale resale! plus i dont like ugly beat up looking stuff.

tikay00 said:
Phone case is a different story. Need one. Screen protector, I don't get. I got one with my case, and I don't even use it. These screens do not scratch unless you're very reckless.
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Had 3 deep scratches on my S3. Near as I can tell it was from sharing the pocket with tools every now and then. So not sure about "very" reckless...but maybe only a "little" reckless.

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ive thought the same thing. so i didnt use them.
but i only buy flagships and the keep good resale value to put towards my next one.
so in that case, i use them to get the scratches on the plastic and the real screen is still fresh.
i also feel the same about cases! they make your phone look like tupperware!
resale resale resale! plus i dont like ugly beat up looking stuff.
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Yep only need a phone case. Screen protector is useless unless you're dumb.
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KennyG123 said:
Had 3 deep scratches on my S3. Near as I can tell it was from sharing the pocket with tools every now and then. So not sure about "very" reckless...but maybe only a "little" reckless.
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Gotcha
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Lol, lemme get this straight...
You guys agree that screen protectors are "dumb" and "useless" while at the same time admitting that your screens have scratches on them...
Makes total sense. [/sarcasm]
I'll take the hardly noticeable decrease in screen clarity over scratches any days. You can always change the screen protector for something better, but even minor scratches are permanent. No thank you.

It depends on what screen protector you get, if you get the Chinese protectors 3 in a pack that look and feel like seran wrap you could windup with lose of clarity and a tacky rubbery feel.
Last year I got a Spigen thin air clear case and it came with a screen protector that looked like a rigid piece of plastic and kind of thick, I figured it's included with the case so I gave it a try. Well I was pleasantly surprised at the feel quality and clarity of the protector, you cannot tell that there is a screen protector on the screen, very hard and slick feel on screen and the same sharpness and vivid color of the original plain screen.
It was a ***** putting it on, had to wet the edges to get it on right, in the end it was well worth it.
Spigen screen protectors are considered premium screen protection.
Who knew.
Pp.

The only screen protectors I've ever used was a three pack from Tmo when I bought my S4 and the one that came with my Otterbox. I don't remember the brand of the three pack, but they worked just fine with no noticeable loss in clarity. The Otterbox screen protector has some weird wavy pattern when tilted while the screen is off, but it's otherwise fine. No noticeable loss of clarity with it either. I'm in no rush to get a new 3 pack.
Honestly, I don't know how anyone in this thread can seriously argue against using a screen protector especially considering the cost of the phone they protect. IMO it's right up there with purchasing the phone without insurance.

I grabbed the Otterbox Defender, popped the screen protector that comes with the OB out (because I got tired of little bits of dust getting behind that screen protector from either the charging port, speaker holes, or the headphone jack) and just put a Zagg Invisible Shield on it. On top of the dust getting behind the OB screen protector, it also seemed to add a type of haze to the screen which I didn't like. It obviously detracted from the 1080p HD look. I haven't changed the Zagg shield since I got the device and only very recently have I noticed very small lines appearing at the part of the screen where I swipe to unlock and the keyboard area.

The tempered glass screen protector I have used for the past two years has saved the screen glass two times now. One when a hammer fell out of my hand a couple feet from the floor and hit my phone by my feet. Glass protector cracked but the screen underneath was unscathed. The replacement survived multiple drops face first on concrete over the next year and only gained a couple micro fractures. Replaced that one last week and the screen underneath was still as good as new. Tempered glass protectors don't degrade image quality or hinder finger movement either. I know mine was extreme cases of abuse but they really are beneficial unless you feel like replacing the whole front glass of the phone after a mishap happens.

Flappyraccoon said:
The tempered glass screen protector I have used for the past two years has saved the screen glass two times now. One when a hammer fell out of my hand a couple feet from the floor and hit my phone by my feet. Glass protector cracked but the screen underneath was unscathed. The replacement survived multiple drops face first on concrete over the next year and only gained a couple micro fractures. Replaced that one last week and the screen underneath was still as good as new. Tempered glass protectors don't degrade image quality or hinder finger movement either. I know mine was extreme cases of abuse but they really are beneficial unless you feel like replacing the whole front glass of the phone after a mishap happens.
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Why would your phone ever be near your feet, or on the ground in general?
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