Times get really interesting now ! i wounder how would run ubuntu on xperia s ?
so any comments?
if next nexus come with ubuntu that means android 5 is going to be ubuntu ? I make that assumption because android=linux+java+(google)
That is not good deal neither for Microsoft with the compatibility issues between win 8RT / windows 8 mobile and normal windows 8 will be buried alive :silly: or Apple will not be happy without their HERO (what was his name ...? MR Jobs) first real test !!
Android 5 will not be Ubuntu. That doesn't make sense. Android is Google. Ubuntu is Canonical. Different companies. Just may be different options on equivalent hardware.
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And Ubuntu is not run by a JVM. Other than the Linux base, there are almost no similarities.
The idea of using your phone as a computer you could plug in anywhere is really interesting. It certainly is powerful enough. I have an ancient 300MHz iMac which can happily browse the web (no flash) and carry out simple tasks such as word processing, so a dual core 1.5GHz phone should have no trouble.
I can certainly see a future where our phones are our only computers.
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The idea of using your phone as a computer you could plug in anywhere is really interesting. It certainly is powerful enough. I have an ancient 300MHz iMac which can happily browse the web (no flash) and carry out simple tasks such as word processing, so a dual core 1.5GHz phone should have no trouble.
I can certainly see a future where our phones are our only computers.
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I can't.
There's a limit to how much you can push mobile hardware. Desktop computing's not going anywhere.
zn533 said:
The idea of using your phone as a computer you could plug in anywhere is really interesting. It certainly is powerful enough. I have an ancient 300MHz iMac which can happily browse the web (no flash) and carry out simple tasks such as word processing, so a dual core 1.5GHz phone should have no trouble.
I can certainly see a future where our phones are our only computers.
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Agreed. I can see desktops turning into cloud-operated dumb terminals first before going away completely, and everything being run off mobile devices and wireless peripherals. Phones+smart TVs will be more than enough; in 10 years we will look at desktops the same way we look at mainframes from 50 years ago (just think of how much progress in telecommunications and computing has been made in just the past decade).
will everyone is making os
but who will make an os that work smoothly with all types of devices
like a single app purchase will work across all devices
of curse the phone would run ubuntu.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f8/android-tricks-mods-install-ubuntu-on-your-phone-97025/
Check this out.
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FenrirMX said:
I can't.
There's a limit to how much you can push mobile hardware. Desktop computing's not going anywhere.
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So u mean booth desktops and mobiles wont evolve anymore?
The limit is reached.
Allow me laugh muhahahaha
lang999 said:
of curse the phone would run ubuntu.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f8/android-tricks-mods-install-ubuntu-on-your-phone-97025/
Check this out.
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So u mean booth desktops and mobiles wont evolve anymore?
The limit is reached.
Allow me laugh muhahahaha
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That's not what he meant.
Desktops will always be more powerful, however I do feel times are changing, shifting more towards cloud based.
And just for the record, silicon based technology is getting close to the limits, you can't beat the laws of the universe.
Personally I'm waiting for my smartphone with a quantum processor.
Sent from my Sony Xperia S via transwarp conduit.
The only relation with Ubuntu and Android is the lynix kernel. Apparently with minor changes to the kernel at a hardware level you can make it run both.
The Ubuntu OS on a mobile was cool enough. Now that they have a mobile side I want it even more. What they have done is create a full mobile pocket Ubuntu PC. Its not replacing or merging with Android. Though from what they said it can be used with Android as well. So if you want Android mobile with Ubuntu while docked you can do that to. If both can co exist it could be great for their future. It also looks like the only big requirements are unlocked boot loader and some good devs to port it.
This should be very interesting and very well could replace the average home computer or for those who need to pack light on the go and still need a full pc experience. But I agree the tower is long from disappearing. A mobile will never be capable of running fluid dynamics, CAD, or high end graphics and movies stuff.
lang999 said:
So u mean booth desktops and mobiles wont evolve anymore?
The limit is reached.
Allow me laugh muhahahaha
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When did I say that? Learn to read before you start attacking.
twent4 said:
Agreed. I can see desktops turning into cloud-operated dumb terminals first before going away completely, and everything being run off mobile devices and wireless peripherals. Phones+smart TVs will be more than enough; in 10 years we will look at desktops the same way we look at mainframes from 50 years ago (just think of how much progress in telecommunications and computing has been made in just the past decade).
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This only works if you only use a computer for consumption purposes. Ask anyone who has tried to develop from a mobile device what they think of it.
Of course, using a phone will have it's limitations, but with a screen and keyboard and terminal access, a phone could be used instead of a computer for most activities people actually use computers for:
Simple office programs
Internet browsing
Games
Email
Phones are capable of all of these things, but nobody likes squinting at a tiny screen or typing out long documents on soft keyboards.
That's pretty much it. We're not all programmers or computer scientists!
zn533 said:
Of course, using a phone will have it's limitations, but with a screen and keyboard and terminal access, a phone could be used instead of a computer for most activities people actually use computers for:
Simple office programs
Internet browsing
Games
Email
Phones are capable of all of these things, but nobody likes squinting at a tiny screen or typing out long documents on soft keyboards.
That's pretty much it. We're not all programmers or computer scientists!
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And this is pretty much what I meant.
I can understand mobile computers and thin clients taking over the mainstream, but desktop computing's not going anywhere for people who do heavy lifting work on a computer. And even when you talk games, surely you don't mean a top tier one. Like I said, there is a physical limit to just how much you can cram into a mobile device. You're trading off a considerable amount of power for portability.
I wouldn't trade my couple years old PC for any mobile device, no matter how advanced it is, and I'm even taking the Win8 Intel mobiles which is, for all intents and purposes a PC.
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i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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You have two options. The Titan or Titan 2. There you go.
Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.
xsever said:
Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.
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wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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So that battery lasts longer and to reduce world poverty.
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kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.
kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Depends. What do you need the phone for? For tinkering, business, gaming, etc.?
2) Most Apps have a great User Interface. Also, the experience is coherent across the apps and the system. The number of apps is ok.
I would adivse you to get a data plan with a smartphone. WP7 is intended as always-online phone. If you don't have a data connection you will miss out a lot of cool features.
If you have time I'd suggest for Windows Phone 8 as it is currently not clear weather existing phones will be update.
kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
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No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
kilus said:
2) are the apps better than android apps?
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That you would even need to ask this question tells me you need to do a lot more research on the smartphone market in general. Windows Phone has fewer apps and no one I know has ever accused it of having "better" apps compared to Android. You need to figure out what apps you really use and see if Windows Phone has them. If you use 6 apps heavily and Windows Phone has them then it really doesn't matter if Windows Phone doesn't have 10,000 flashlight apps. Here's my setup...
Nokia Drive (Free GPS)
Whatsapp
Skype
Skydrive (cloud storage)
Netflix
ebay
Adobe Acrobat
Unofficial Samsung Remote
Facebook and Twitter support is built in. Of course you get MS Office as well.
There are a few others loaded but I don't use them much. I don't like a cluttered setup so I don't download a bunch of stupid apps that will only be used once or twice.
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.
4.7 Screen... you clearly have 2 option : HTC Titan or Titan II, both are AT&T Branded in US , Titan II are exclusive to AT&T.
HTC is the best choice in my opinion
xsever said:
I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.
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With your phone connected to power cord, it will keep the wifi connection while locked/asleep.
sitizenx said:
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.
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Thanks a lot for this piece of information.
kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Up to you. I'm interested in getting a WP7 to play with.
2) Well, this is subjective. No, in my opinion. There are far less WP7 apps.
3) I'd say the Titan or Lumia, internally, there isn't much difference, They both have the same CPU etc.
sitizenx said:
No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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Exactly , Id say its more like 99% ,most people that have an android phone really dont know how powerful it is ,same with the iphone (which apple generally under powers) but the average joes doesnt care ,windows phone is no different except the interfaces are all different , I would gather you dont have root or a custom rom or even recovery on that android device , you wont need it on the windows device either (windows device do have some customization but not like android) if your happy with what the manufacturer gives you, your happy with what the software gives you and your satisfied with the carrier ,all three platforms are fine might as well throw in Blackberry and bada and symbian as well ,if your not gonna do anything with it than what "they" want you to do!
If you like customizing stick with Android otherwise apple or Microsoft will be fine!
If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny
tfn said:
If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny
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yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?
kilus said:
yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?
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No, you cannot.
The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.
Just like IOS apps are coming to android, so are most of the apps coming to WP7, although games wise Microsoft is doing its XBOX games unlike gamelofts on android eg: angry birds is already on wp7
sianto1997 said:
The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.
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it WAS FREE but it is no longer free, you have to pay like 40$ a month, so you can take that our of the equation.
Set the mood....
I own 2 Windows laptops, a Windows desktop, all running W7, a Macbook Pro, running SL, but the wife stole it, 2 Xboxs, a PS3, 1st gen and 3rd gen iPad, iPhone 2g, 3g, 3gs, 4gs, and 2 Samsung Focuses... I also own a Wii but i think the SNES got turn on more often.. Just to note I have played with a few Android tablets/phones.
I don't know why i had to post this but after countless times I cannot help but tell people about Window Phone 7.
I don't talk about speed, I don't want to talk about 94579204385 new features... My main point is search...
I understand that I am not the perfect human and that people have different feelings but the first time I use search on WP7 there was no going back... 1 button to find whatever I want around me on a device I carry with me 99.9% of the time... How can you beat that?
Before that I was all Apple... for mobile. I hate the idea of having to open a specific app for a specific purpose... and I honestly have to thank WP7 for showing me this as it was the first to merge this into a common area search built into a phone, again for me.
However, I cannot lie... well I can but I am choosing not too. Currently WP7 is lacking. I would not say it is missing a lot but I want more from it and do not want it to stagnate like WM or BB.
I love WP, I love iOS, but thanks to local search WP7 will always beat iOS right now in what I think is a functional use of a cell phone.
This is my little rant. I posted this in general to hope to push people to look at the simplicity of this feature. If you don't like it feel free to respond why. I am not here to defend my OPINION... please pay attention to caps... I am here to just tell people what I think.
Just to reiterate, kind of sad I have to but whatever, I DO NOT care about Microsoft vs Apple or vs Google as I do not see them as competition 90% of the time well maybe Google vs MS or Apple but whatever haha. I am telling people about 1 feature that I, KEY POINT HERE, believe sets apart WP7 in the mobile field.
Note I did not mention Android after the start.... sorry I played with 2.3 and 4.0 and lacked interest after my few encounters. On the same note, notice I did not bad mouth anyone so please keep the flames to a minimum.
2GStyle said:
Set the mood....
I own 2 Windows laptops, a Windows desktop, all running W7, a Macbook Pro, running SL, but the wife stole it, 2 Xboxs, a PS3, 1st gen and 3rd gen iPad, iPhone 2g, 3g, 3gs, 4gs, and 2 Samsung Focuses... I also own a Wii but i think the SNES got turn on more often.. Just to note I have played with a few Android tablets/phones.
I don't know why i had to post this but after countless times I cannot help but tell people about Window Phone 7.
I don't talk about speed, I don't want to talk about 94579204385 new features... My main point is search...
I understand that I am not the perfect human and that people have different feelings but the first time I use search on WP7 there was no going back... 1 button to find whatever I want around me on a device I carry with me 99.9% of the time... How can you beat that?
Before that I was all Apple... for mobile. I hate the idea of having to open a specific app for a specific purpose... and I honestly have to thank WP7 for showing me this as it was the first to merge this into a common area search built into a phone, again for me.
However, I cannot lie... well I can but I am choosing not too. Currently WP7 is lacking. I would not say it is missing a lot but I want more from it and do not want it to stagnate like WM or BB.
I love WP, I love iOS, but thanks to local search WP7 will always beat iOS right now in what I think is a functional use of a cell phone.
This is my little rant. I posted this in general to hope to push people to look at the simplicity of this feature. If you don't like it feel free to respond why. I am not here to defend my OPINION... please pay attention to caps... I am here to just tell people what I think.
Just to reiterate, kind of sad I have to but whatever, I DO NOT care about Microsoft vs Apple or vs Google as I do not see them as competition 90% of the time well maybe Google vs MS or Apple but whatever haha. I am telling people about 1 feature that I, KEY POINT HERE, believe sets apart WP7 in the mobile field.
Note I did not mention Android after the start.... sorry I played with 2.3 and 4.0 and lacked interest after my few encounters. On the same note, notice I did not bad mouth anyone so please keep the flames to a minimum.
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Let me be one of the first to congratulate you for a lucid, well written opinion about a particular feature that attracts YOU to WP7. Notice that I capitalized "you". Now let me be one of the first to warn you about the avalanche of hate you are about to receive and that you'll probably be called a an idiot for not knowing how to do the same thing on another platform.
2GStyle said:
Set the mood....
I own 2 Windows laptops, a Windows desktop, all running W7, a Macbook Pro, running SL, but the wife stole it, 2 Xboxs, a PS3, 1st gen and 3rd gen iPad, iPhone 2g, 3g, 3gs, 4gs, and 2 Samsung Focuses... I also own a Wii but i think the SNES got turn on more often.. Just to note I have played with a few Android tablets/phones.
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Methinks you have too much disposable income! j/k
Good post!
2GStyle said:
Set the mood....
I own 2 Windows laptops, a Windows desktop, all running W7, a Macbook Pro, running SL, but the wife stole it, 2 Xboxs, a PS3, 1st gen and 3rd gen iPad, iPhone 2g, 3g, 3gs, 4gs, and 2 Samsung Focuses... I also own a Wii but i think the SNES got turn on more often.. Just to note I have played with a few Android tablets/phones.
I don't know why i had to post this but after countless times I cannot help but tell people about Window Phone 7.
I don't talk about speed, I don't want to talk about 94579204385 new features... My main point is search...
I understand that I am not the perfect human and that people have different feelings but the first time I use search on WP7 there was no going back... 1 button to find whatever I want around me on a device I carry with me 99.9% of the time... How can you beat that?
Before that I was all Apple... for mobile. I hate the idea of having to open a specific app for a specific purpose... and I honestly have to thank WP7 for showing me this as it was the first to merge this into a common area search built into a phone, again for me.
However, I cannot lie... well I can but I am choosing not too. Currently WP7 is lacking. I would not say it is missing a lot but I want more from it and do not want it to stagnate like WM or BB.
I love WP, I love iOS, but thanks to local search WP7 will always beat iOS right now in what I think is a functional use of a cell phone.
This is my little rant. I posted this in general to hope to push people to look at the simplicity of this feature. If you don't like it feel free to respond why. I am not here to defend my OPINION... please pay attention to caps... I am here to just tell people what I think.
Just to reiterate, kind of sad I have to but whatever, I DO NOT care about Microsoft vs Apple or vs Google as I do not see them as competition 90% of the time well maybe Google vs MS or Apple but whatever haha. I am telling people about 1 feature that I, KEY POINT HERE, believe sets apart WP7 in the mobile field.
Note I did not mention Android after the start.... sorry I played with 2.3 and 4.0 and lacked interest after my few encounters. On the same note, notice I did not bad mouth anyone so please keep the flames to a minimum.
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Posts like this make me think WP should do just fine out there on the market (which it WILL)...but anyway yea, I agree...good post my friend!
I don't know where u live. But you're lucky search features really works
Bing map/local servies are crap in my country
ok so i'll start ranting about the problem with WP7, yes major problem.
First one, your WiFi will get disconnected whenever your phone is in sleep/locked mode( pressing the on/off button once. You might be thinking this is a trivial problem, well, I say no. The reason being that this is annoying to those using WhatsApp or any internet apps that needs to be on all the time. You might say you could switch the lock screen time-out to 0, well I'll say it's a waste of battery.
For the second problem, the phone really has a slight problem with wifi. 3 out of 10 times when I'm trying to connect WiFi, I couldn't get it to work, and yes i mean public WiFi like Mac Donalds and etc. My friend who is using IPhone or Android, even if there is a low signal in the connection, they can connect to the internet easily. Having said that, I might have been too fussy about this.
In conclusion, I would say they should solve the first problem I mentioned and I'm a bit disappointed at Microsoft. How long has it been since wp7 first come out. If they could solve this problem in the WP8 Apollo update and provided that older WP 7 phone will be getting this update, my opinion of WP OS will change.
End of rant.
@ DJ Krush: For the second problem, the phone really has a slight problem with wifi. 3 out of 10 times when I'm trying to connect WiFi, I couldn't get it to work, and yes i mean public WiFi like Mac Donalds and etc. My friend who is using IPhone or Android, even if there is a low signal in the connection, they can connect to the internet easily. Having said that, I might have been too fussy about this.
This is obviously a problem with your handset/wi-fi signal and NOT the OS, I understand your rant but please don't assume every Windows Phone has this problem, I have never had any problems with any of my WP7 handsets in connecting to wi-fi.
If you want Wi-Fi to stay connected and are at home then plug in the mains charger and it will stay on, Admit it can be an inconvenience for some but in a world of unlimited data plans not everyone suffers as you do.
AndyFZ1S said:
@ DJ Krush: For the second problem, the phone really has a slight problem with wifi. 3 out of 10 times when I'm trying to connect WiFi, I couldn't get it to work, and yes i mean public WiFi like Mac Donalds and etc. My friend who is using IPhone or Android, even if there is a low signal in the connection, they can connect to the internet easily. Having said that, I might have been too fussy about this.
This is obviously a problem with your handset/wi-fi signal and NOT the OS, I understand your rant but please don't assume every Windows Phone has this problem, I have never had any problems with any of my WP7 handsets in connecting to wi-fi.
If you want Wi-Fi to stay connected and are at home then plug in the mains charger and it will stay on, Admit it can be an inconvenience for some but in a world of unlimited data plans not everyone suffers as you do.
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As I had stated earlier, I might be fussy and all I'm stating is just my opinion or problems I encountered with/or the phone.
Mind if i ask what phone you're using? I'm currently using Nokia Lumia 710.
@ DJ Krush, Fair play as we all enjoy a rant, Am using a Nokia Lumia 900 and HTC Titan2, One is for work, On the Lumia 900 my wifi stays on whilst screen is locked, I have the 8773 Tango ROM which came pre-installed, Am not 100% sure if this is meant to happen but I only noticed it couple of days ago, Lets hope it is a function of the new update for all.
DJ Krush said:
First one, your WiFi will get disconnected whenever your phone is in sleep/locked mode( pressing the on/off button once. You might be thinking this is a trivial problem, well, I say no. The reason being that this is annoying to those using WhatsApp or any internet apps that needs to be on all the time.
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Yes for the millionth time we are aware. Every thread the wifi disconnect when sleep mafia sends a representative. This is a niche concern and Windows Phone is a young OS. It took iOS several iterations before it had a WiFi constantly on feature. Make a request to MSFT and they may include it soon.
DJ Krush said:
For the second problem, the phone really has a slight problem with wifi. 3 out of 10 times when I'm trying to connect WiFi, I couldn't get it to work, and yes i mean public WiFi like Mac Donalds and etc.
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My wifi connects flawlessly every time on public AND secure networks. Sounds like a handset problem my friend. Windows Phone does wifi just fine for the rest of us.
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AndyFZ1S said:
If you want Wi-Fi to stay connected and are at home then plug in the mains charger and it will stay on, Admit it can be an inconvenience for some but in a world of unlimited data plans not everyone suffers as you do.
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Yeah I don't think MSFT is trying to make inroads into the cheapskate market. I think they are leaving that for the low end Andriod phones.
sitizenx said:
Yeah I don't think MSFT is trying to make inroads into the cheapskate market. I think they are leaving that for the low end Andriod phones.
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Yeah, i think that microsoft isnt trying to get into any market, high end is reserved for iPhone, SGS3, HOX, and its already well known that MS is charity organisation that gives away their products. Just look at Nokia they are living of entry level symbian smartphones (because WP isnt selling enough to replace once market dominant symbian) and cheap S40 dumbphones.
LOL, biggest WP manufacturer is very interested in low end
http://www.wpcentral.com/elop-nokia-making-cheaper-windows-phones-compete-android-agressively
As much as I dislike Crapple and there products I believe that I have to get a Mac for work :/
I was wondering if any of you guys had a Mac and how is it?
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best decision you can make trust me I have had to MacBooks and a mac mini. My Macbook has been nothing but great for college no slow starts, its there when you require it, will not freeze or let you down when you most need it. Theres less malware viruses ect for it so you feel a little more secure. Apple support is a plus this guys will fix any problem you have within warranty and aslong as you did not brake anything on purpose. Besides you can install virtual machine and run windows 8, xp, vista ect its like you have two computers in one.
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best decision you can make trust me I have had to MacBooks and a mac mini. My Macbook has been nothing but great for college no slow starts, its there when you require it, will not freeze or let you down when you most need it. Theres less malware viruses ect for it so you feel a little more secure. Apple support is a plus this guys will fix any problem you have within warranty and aslong as you did not brake anything on purpose. Besides you can install virtual machine and run windows 8, xp, vista ect its like you have two computers in one.
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Thanks, which one do you have?
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Or you could build a hackintosh for home. Sandybridge has made building and using one with lion a piece of cake. Under 300 bucks for a nice mac mini performance machine. It's funny how people won't admit to owning any apple products in these threads for fear of being pounced on. At least this section seems better than most.
What kind of job do you have that they would use mac? Macs suck at business stuff
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What kind of job do you have that they would use mac? Macs suck at business stuff
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I have a MacBook unibody the one before the retina display have never had any problems. I recommend going to the apple store and trying them out on display.. Besides most people don't like Mac and yet they have never owned one.. So just try it out because what matters is what you want not what me or some one else likes... If you have a question just let me know Id be glad to answer
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I have a MacBook unibody the one before the retina display have never had any problems. I recommend going to the apple store and trying them out on display.. Besides most people don't like Mac and yet they have never owned one.. So just try it out because what matters is what you want not what me or some one else likes... If you have a question just let me know Id be glad to answer
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I work in IT and use them all the time. Actually fixing one right now. And from an IT stand point Macs are no good for buis. And you can run multiple OS's on any PC. That is not a Mac thing they just advertise it because they know you will need windows for something
Once you go MAC you don't go back to "PC"
been in IT since 1982.. been on MAC at my home office for 4 years now. I have 6 laptops of my own and 4 MACS also. 2 mbp, 1 macro, and 1 new while unibody for daughter at college.. I have serviced all pc's from Southern Cali to Washington DC. I have yet to fully need to break down a mac any place ... only hard drives if that. When I repair PC'S laptops at Colleges its always a windows' machine. The reason I switched over was the virus issues with PCs and the constant WTF i need to update today before I start working on my PC. Sure they both have trojans and mail ware. But PC's have viruses and MAC's do not. Meaning PC's can be made inoperable by malicious software a lot more often were as MAC will be used as pons in a greater hacking plan with implanted trojans.... but still operate. Many times without the user ever knowing. Last reason .. economics... take a look at the income scale of MAC user's .. usually a lot higher than your typical PC user. By no means am I saying PC users don't make more money than MAC users.. just are usually in my field experience in a more lucrative high paying career position than a trade "job". Granted you defiantly have infinite more options of software and best of breed hardware options building PC's. If you want to do what you want how you want .. build your own PC box. If you want to power up and get to work on the reason you power'd up every time you power up with out having to restart our machine after using it for extended periods of time opening and closing apps.. going in and out of hibernation/sleep mode for days on end..... MAC is the way to go. .................... on last note.. the pc are great .. mac's are great... the internet is bases off UNIX not DOS. MAC is based off UNIX. If dos went away.. PC would rule hands down. truly its not the hardware man.. its the software that's the issue. I for all OS's merging closely into one within the next 20 years... each upgrade of windows it becomes more MAC. its just how it goes. even Ubuntu with its unity desktop is following suite as well. out of all the computers in my home only one 2 year old Sony has Windows 7 Ultimate on it to flash my GPS and Pimped out Epizzal 4G's Touch.. LOL.. everything else Runs on OS-X and UBUNTU... .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
Did you guys know that in a few years windoze will be releasing Microsux X ... I had to contribute!
Switched in 2010 and haven't looked back since. 2010 MBP upgraded to 8Gb of RAM and a 256Gb Crucial SSD, its been plenty fast, and loaded Win7 on it, but recently pulled that off and put XP on instead.
I was so impressed with it when my PC bit the dust I replaced it with a 27" iMac.
Lol just do Hackintosh. I have one and it beats the crap out of my friend's mac. Go for SB-E and then buy an IB-E cpu.
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Pc bit the dust aswell
TonyTurboII said:
Switched in 2010 and haven't looked back since. 2010 MBP upgraded to 8Gb of RAM and a 256Gb Crucial SSD, its been plenty fast, and loaded Win7 on it, but recently pulled that off and put XP on instead.
I was so impressed with it when my PC bit the dust I replaced it with a 27" iMac.
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same here... neVAAAAA going back to PC........ have the same 15 MBP did the same upgrade...also insalled Lion.. it just plain flies............
tried to bog it down by 1. dowloading 25 gigs torrent 2. burn 8.5 dvd 3. streaming music 4. streaming hd video 5 running AI to edit newspaper add 6. surfen web news sites 7. 3 machines RDP 8. backing up data to NAS 9. apple checking for updates.. ALL AT SAME TIME. AND THE MACHINE JUST KEEP SAYING "BRING IT!! BRING IT!" no lag what so ever!.
Sorry PC's.. since I'm not a big PC gamer.... My switch has been a long time coming.. I wish they would start the IM A MAC / PC commercials again too funny.. but all of them true. LMAO.:highfive:
No it's not true because you're comparing computers with intel processors that are far superior to all its predecessors. I can do the exact things you stated with my Core i7-920 machine with no hiccups as well because the jump from Core 2 duo/quad to first gen i7s was 20% increase in performance on average. 2nd generation and 3rd generation are 10-20% better than the first gen nehelams (depending on task).
It does not matter if it's a PC or a Mac. You'll be hard pressed to make any modern CPU from Intel or AMD choke in any way unless you're doing the most demanding of tasks where intel completely dominates.
An updated windows 7 machine from a QUALITY manufacturer (not the cheap hp/dell stuff in retail stores) will last as long as any MBP. There is a reason the commercials stopped. It just didn't work anymore against the improvements in Win 7.
Also i live in the state capital of CA and have family with seniority positions within the gov't and let me tell you. Even though literally everyone has an Ipad...
Out of the thousands of computers, I did not ever encounter mac's in huge quantities. Only windows or custom OS's.
Side note #1 - MBP's use SSD's which allow for insanely fast response times.
#2 - They do get viruses / malware and are usually the fastest to be hacked in any hacking competition due to extensive security vulnerabilities that they take forever to patch which is also one of the main reasons the PCvMac commercials stopped when MS got its act together.
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Lol just do Hackintosh. I have one and it beats the crap out of my friend's mac. Go for SB-E and then buy an IB-E cpu.
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I'm with you, 2 hackintosh sandy bridge machines dual booting windows 7 for the oddball stuff. These things are so easy to build and trouble free:good:
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been in IT since 1982.. been on MAC at my home office for 4 years now. I have 6 laptops of my own and 4 MACS also. 2 mbp, 1 macro, and 1 new while unibody for daughter at college.. I have serviced all pc's from Southern Cali to Washington DC. I have yet to fully need to break down a mac any place ... only hard drives if that. When I repair PC'S laptops at Colleges its always a windows' machine. The reason I switched over was the virus issues with PCs and the constant WTF i need to update today before I start working on my PC. Sure they both have trojans and mail ware. But PC's have viruses and MAC's do not. Meaning PC's can be made inoperable by malicious software a lot more often were as MAC will be used as pons in a greater hacking plan with implanted trojans.... but still operate. Many times without the user ever knowing. Last reason .. economics... take a look at the income scale of MAC user's .. usually a lot higher than your typical PC user. By no means am I saying PC users don't make more money than MAC users.. just are usually in my field experience in a more lucrative high paying career position than a trade "job". Granted you defiantly have infinite more options of software and best of breed hardware options building PC's. If you want to do what you want how you want .. build your own PC box. If you want to power up and get to work on the reason you power'd up every time you power up with out having to restart our machine after using it for extended periods of time opening and closing apps.. going in and out of hibernation/sleep mode for days on end..... MAC is the way to go. .................... on last note.. the pc are great .. mac's are great... the internet is bases off UNIX not DOS. MAC is based off UNIX. If dos went away.. PC would rule hands down. truly its not the hardware man.. its the software that's the issue. I for all OS's merging closely into one within the next 20 years... each upgrade of windows it becomes more MAC. its just how it goes. even Ubuntu with its unity desktop is following suite as well. out of all the computers in my home only one 2 year old Sony has Windows 7 Ultimate on it to flash my GPS and Pimped out Epizzal 4G's Touch.. LOL.. everything else Runs on OS-X and UBUNTU... .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
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Mac desktops are PCs... You know a personal computer. Just like Dells, HPs, Sony and the like. OSX is pretty but I'm not paying an arm and leg for a name brand. It's like Air Jordan sneakers. Every year its the same hing different colour higher price. Sometimes add some need giltz and glam.
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Just bought both an MBA 13" 2012 edition and the Asus Zenbook UX31A. It's my first time using a Mac and I've been a pro-PC person all my life, but I can honestly say that the Air is better than the UX31A, which is the top Ultrabook out right now. The specs are pretty identical, but this is a lot more intuitive and they are basically the same price.
But since this thread is about Android phones, I'll say that I usually just run Parallels to Windows 7 for my Android stuff because I CBA figuring out how Heimdall works instead of Odin haha. Otherwise, I think it's basically the same. Macs are pretty good with automatically finding drivers.
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Mac desktops are PCs... You know a personal computer. Just like Dells, HPs, Sony and the like. OSX is pretty but I'm not paying an arm and leg for a name brand. It's like Air Jordan sneakers. Every year its the same hing different colour higher price. Sometimes add some need giltz and glam.
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I think he was going abit more in depth. Like he stated unix is based to work with the internet DOS it's not.
Windows was never meant to be used with the internet
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I'm brand new to the HTC One, and am surprised to find out about the MTP file system and the inability to connect to the device through USB from my Mac. I've found a couple programs that allow me to connect to the file system, but it is not native, so I'm unable to sync to iPhoto.
Do custom ROM's allow USB Mass Storage?
If not, what have others found for a work around?
I hear ya. I first ran into this with my Galaxy S3. I never synced with iPhoto so I cannot answer that. I just use Android file transfer and do the drag/drop thing. I guess you might be able to do some type of dropbox setup, but not sure how that would work. I hate HTC Sync so Android file transfer is the only way I go
Give up the apple products you have a droid jk. Just use htc sync to sync them to a folder that you keep synced with iPhoto.
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You could also try the universal naked driver. It has worked for a lot of people.
Android File Transfer. It's made by Google for those with Android & Mac.
I hate Windows, actually Microsoft in general, and am an all mac household, and the One works flawlessly with my macs & AFT.
iPhoto won't work, but the way I get my albums on my one is to just export all the albums to my desktop, and drag & drop. That's the only downside. But still manageable.
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Give up the apple products you have a droid jk. Just use htc sync to sync them to a folder that you keep synced with iPhoto.
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You could also try the universal naked driver. It has worked for a lot of people.
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Actually by your thinking you should be using a Nokia Lumia
Nice . I can't really say if I like windows phone or not because I have never used one. I would use ubuntu as my main OS if it actually had support but people would rather pay the big bucks instead of support free software. Maybe someday...
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Nice . I can't really say if I like windows phone or not because I have never used one. I would use ubuntu as my main OS if it actually had support but people would rather pay the big bucks instead of support free software. Maybe someday...
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Very true.... I messed around with ubuntu a while back. You are correct though...Ubuntu is like many other great ideas that just didn't get the support.
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Nice . I can't really say if I like windows phone or not because I have never used one. I would use ubuntu as my main OS if it actually had support but people would rather pay the big bucks instead of support free software. Maybe someday...
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Who is paying big bucks for Windows? People buy a laptop and it's there. How many laptops can you buy with Ubuntu or no OS?
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Who is paying big bucks for Windows? People buy a laptop and it's there. How many laptops can you buy with Ubuntu or no OS?
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You get an oem version that you do not have the right to install on any other system. And yes you pay for it. You realize how cheap a computer is to just buy the hardware. You ever gone and tried to purchase the full version of windows or mac osx from the store and not an upgrade version. It is really expensive. Not to mention if you want even more functionality like office software. Office is even more expensive. It's ridiculous. And the point of the conversation was the fact you can't buy a laptop with no OS. Which would be nice if ubuntu had support but it doesn't because of the paid os versions. You get the point now?
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Actually anyone who buys that laptop is paying big bucks for the OS as well. It is an agreement between Microsoft and the manufacturer. Of course nobody is going to just put ubuntu on their laptops to sell. This was more of an offline support than a laptop/pc new purchase. There are many other examples of very good software that did not get the support to keep it going.
Either way...was not about that but rather the main stream OS like Windows and OSX vs the other options out there.
I am sorry for posting this here as I didn't see a Q&A section. Now that MS has killed Spotify + Groove Music, what exactly is going on? IN fact, I just want to know if anyone else is, like me, thinking of letting Windows 10 Mobile go? I am frankly tired of them stalling all the good things that are actually freely available on other platforms. I am talking about apps like Flipboard etc.
What's next? Insta? WhatsApp? It has now come to a point where even an expensive flagship is nothing more than a paper-weight.
When you ask that arrogant Nawzil on FB, the smart-ass laughs at you and sinkers at you as if holding some precious information that is going to magically transform your life.
Anyways, I will not make this a hate-thread and want to focus on the way ahead. Is it a kill and abandon mission? Or walk on and see?
Windows 10 Mobile is clearly facing the same fate as Windows RT. No offical statement from MS that it will be abandoned, but no new devices is coming, no new apps and current apps is losing support. And the OS itself has not seen any new features for a long time, still missing night mode and bluetooth has been buggy for years.
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Windows 10 Mobile is clearly facing the same fate as Windows RT. No offical statement from MS that it will be abandoned, but no new devices is coming, no new apps and current apps is losing support. And the OS itself has not seen any new features for a long time, still missing night mode and bluetooth has been buggy for years.
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You forgot to add to this list: Bill Gates told to the Fox News reporter, he switched to Android
Looks like it's time to say "Bye bye, Windows Mobile"...
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You forgot to add to this list: Bill Gates told to the Fox News reporter, he switched to Android
Looks like it's time to say "Bye bye, Windows Mobile"...
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haha..I read that too. I don't care much about what Billy uses. I need to know if it is time to jump ship? Or is something really remarkable just round the corner. Which I honestly doubt. But the devs here at XDA were making some really good progress hacking Lumia. But this too has been a silent room for a long time. So are the senior devs here too given up?
My next phone OS definitely will NOT be from Microsoft.
P.S. I've got free LG X charge from Xfinity Mobile (also with free unlimited calls/SMS) and now I understand what I really need (I mean incredible battery life). Unfortunately this X charge has an awful camera (like most of LG budget handsets). So, I hope, someone will release similar phone with good modern camera(s) and same (or more powerful) battery, with similar power savings.
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... But the devs here at XDA were making some really good progress hacking Lumia. ..
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So point it. There is no progress, there is no need for it because no new OS futures or system capabilities. OK, I will pay someone to make 950 bootloader unlocked and change the system font...nothing more. Give a break
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Anyways, I will not make this a hate-thread and want to focus on the way ahead. Is it a kill and abandon mission? Or walk on and see?
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For me, the choice is sad but easy: I like Windows phones and dislike Android and iOS. I expect to stay until they no longer provide security updates.
I'm not optimistic about the future of Windows on phones yet the options I know of seem worse.
Your responsibilities are to yourself and it's not as if you are only allowed to switch once. What works best for you at this time?
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For me, the choice is sad but easy: I like Windows phones and dislike Android and iOS. I expect to stay until they no longer provide security updates.
I'm not optimistic about the future of Windows on phones yet the options I know of seem worse.
Your responsibilities are to yourself and it's not as if you are only allowed to switch once. What works best for you at this time?
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Thank you for your reply my friend. Something very strange happened yesterday. I shifted to my Nexus 6 after 2 weeks of usage of my Lumia 950XL. And the moment I turned it on, something hit me hard. I missed my Lumia. I dragged my feet through the day with my Android device. And what did I do the moment I reached home? I ripped open my Lumia, put my SIM in and fired it on immediately.
This has never happened before. I used to have cravings for using my Lumia in the past. The simplicity, the speed, the security. All of it. I however never swapped my SIM in a day's time ever before. And now I don't feel like going back to my Nexus at all. Though it isn't laggy in anyway with (Stock 7.1.1). I just felt a kind of aversion to it.
What works for me? Lumia hands down. However, what worries me is the fact that slowly and steadily, every app will go quiet. It has already started. Flipboard is gone and so are a bunch of others with it.
Feels like MS is on some kind of suicidal mission with WP.
Recent tweets by Joe Belfiore:
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071857370595328
We have tried VERY HARD to incent app devs. Paid money.. wrote apps 4 them.. but volume of users is too low for most companies to invest.
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360
Of course we'll continue to support the platform.. bug fixes, security updates, etc. But building new features/hw aren't the focus.
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Recent tweets by Joe Belfiore:
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071857370595328
We have tried VERY HARD to incent app devs. Paid money.. wrote apps 4 them.. but volume of users is too low for most companies to invest.
https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360
Of course we'll continue to support the platform.. bug fixes, security updates, etc. But building new features/hw aren't the focus.
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Yea I read. All the news blog channels are declaring the OS dead, RIP and what not. However, as long as the basic apps like WhatsApp and Insta work, we are good. Otherwise it would be seriously crippling. Even then, I don't think I would sell my 950XL.
Same here. Will stay with my Lumia 730 until basic apps are alive. Just feels so bad to move to other platforms after using windows mobile
Even planning to upgrade to an used 1520.
(Have a Nexus 5 for backup)
hold , windows phone 10 still works good and bug fixes on the way .
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Yea I read. All the news blog channels are declaring the OS dead, RIP and what not. However, as long as the basic apps like WhatsApp and Insta work, we are good. Otherwise it would be seriously crippling. Even then, I don't think I would sell my 950XL.
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The UWP apps with mobile support should continue to get updates and work on mobile for a while (2+ years or more) unless a developer pulls the app. The legacy apps will eventually expire off...So unless you are gung-ho crazy over certain media apps (because Groove is dying) or want a Google store experience for some reason, there is no need to move to another hand set platform over apps. However folks should do what works best for them...I personally still find Android somewhat unintuitive so even though the huge amount of apps is there I still only use a handful. I am planning on buying a VZW Elite X3 soon and use that while waiting to see if Microsoft is really aiming for an Andromeda device with Windows Core OS.
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The UWP apps with mobile support should continue to get updates and work on mobile for a while (2+ years or more) unless a developer pulls the app. The legacy apps will eventually expire off...So unless you are gung-ho crazy over certain media apps (because Groove is dying) or want a Google store experience for some reason, there is no need to move to another hand set platform over apps. However folks should do what works best for them...I personally still find Android somewhat unintuitive so even though the huge amount of apps is there I still only use a handful. I am planning on buying a VZW Elite X3 soon and use that while waiting to see if Microsoft is really aiming for an Andromeda device with Windows Core OS.
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Well. I will be honest. I've jumped ship. I've got myself a Xiaomi Mi Note 2. I am honestly very happy. This is just not done. They have a history of abandoning products and I should have known it. My bad Microsoft.
So much bluetooth problems with Windows 10 Mobile, since the it was released. I can't understand that Microsoft never have and never will fix it.
I have no problem at all-
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I have no problem at all-
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With Bluetooth? If I stream music from Spotify or Groove with Bluetooth and try to use the device at the same time, like open the Maps app, the sound will start to stutter or the sound quality will turn bad. Sometimes it also just stops playing, and I have to wait for the music app to reload before it opens.
Sometimes Bluetooth does not auto connect, sometimes it can't connect at all and I have to restart phone.
Reading the MS feedback forums it seems like the Bluetooth problems affect all devices and all versions of W10M.
On witch phone? Mine is 640 xl.
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On witch phone? Mine is 640 xl.
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Its great if what you are saying is true. I still have Bluetooth issues with my Lumia 730
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On witch phone? Mine is 640 xl.
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Sorry, I have 950XL.