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Samsung Galaxy S II gets Android 2.3.6 update

I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/

Go figure....
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Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!

[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
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Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.

Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.

so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?

ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah

i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
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ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!

Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
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[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!

It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.

Dchibro said:
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.

People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.

looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!

expertzero1 said:
looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.

We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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A quick word about JB hate.

We've seen lots of complaining in the last couple of days about what is and isn't working in these ports.
It seems GPS may or may not be working correctly, that it may or may not be due to the Leap Second.
WiFi, Bluetooth, volume... if you have these issues, they can mostly be remedied. If not, gratz.
The fact is, these Roms are ports of development previews on a phone slightly but importantly different than yours running an OS that hasn't been released yet.
I was deeply amazed and impressed that some developers had working ports to CDMA the very night it was announced for GSM.
I'd you are running one of these JB ports and you find that it works well enough as a daily driver, consider yourself fortunate and hit the thanks button on the OP, maybe even donate.
If you are trying it out, but find that it lacks the stability or functionality that you require, click the thanks button on the OP anyway because they spent the time to give you something now for free that which you would otherwise have to wait weeks for, or, considering VZW's track record, maybe never.
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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Jubomime said:
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
Nevertheless I'm very pleased with JB. Everything is working beautiful for me. I using daily driver now without any issues. Just the stock JB at that. I'm not much for all the features of Roms. More into kernel tweaks which I do miss from glados kernel. But Franco is doing fine for now.

M3drvr said:
They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
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Thats why I put going to Google IO one year at least on my bucket list.

i think people are forgetting these roms are from nandroids! lol!

I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.

Half of the JB "hate" posts are not "my app doesn't work, JB sucks!" but rather "my app doesn't work, I'm posting it in case someone has stumbled upon a fix"

The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).

CMNein said:
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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chancy319 said:
Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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No, it succinctly indicates the issue at hand.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

oldblue910 said:
I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.

well you know what the say "everything's amazing these days, nobody's happy"

[email protected] said:
I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
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Would you mind? I can find download locations out there but I'm not sure what version's needed.

CMNein said:
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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I hate you for making me google bronies.

jesusice said:
I hate you for making me google bronies.
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Bring on the hate :cyclops:

These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.

I had to look up bronies as well.... I am sending along my hate alone with jesusice

akira02rex said:
These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
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That sort of depends. There are some changes that have to be made to a ROM for the GSM model to be 'ported' to the CDMA models. So, it's a 'port' for those phones, because only the GSM developer preview was 'released'.

They do realize other top phones are just getting ice cream sandwich, and we Nexii already have Jelly Beans sweet taste in our mouths?? Ridiculous!
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One of those lucky ones everything is working just fine, still couldn't see any issues, and I flashed my phone on the 28/06

Funny how ICS was the major update but jb is more of a complete experience.
butter and jelly please...

How to enable multiview without custom rom

Is there a way to enable or install multiview without cus5om rom? Just on top of my rooted gn2
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Probably not. Just have to wait for official release
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Bodoct said:
Probably not. Just have to wait for official release
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If I decide to root, but still keep everything else stock for now...will it affect ability to download OTA? I've been holding off. I do know I will have to re-root after it comes of course. There seems to be conflicting info wherever I've tried to search/read so I'm just asking, officially. I don't want to have to unroot to get the multi-view love.

k.babymamma said:
If I decide to root, but still keep everything else stock for now...will it affect ability to download OTA? I've been holding off. I do know I will have to re-root after it comes of course. There seems to be conflicting info wherever I've tried to search/read so I'm just asking, officially. I don't want to have to unroot to get the multi-view love.
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While you are rooted you will not be able to get OTAs

The developers that we have will take the official rom and make it custom once we get updates. Rooting wont block an OTA, it will just removes the root, you could reroot, or you could just install one of the custom roms with multiview, as the devs will update roms as soon as the official updates come along. There is really nothing to loose.

Cannot wait till the OTA comes out. I'm actually enjoy Touchwiz
*gasp*
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supac said:
Is there a way to enable or install multiview without cus5om rom? Just on top of my rooted gn2
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Why isn't this in the Q&A sub-forum? And your thread title is missing a question mark. Or you could change your post to actually provide the solution...since that's what it looks like in the first place

Rooting blocks OTA ??
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The developers that we have will take the official rom and make it custom once we get updates. Rooting wont block an OTA, it will just removes the root, you could reroot, or you could just install one of the custom roms with multiview, as the devs will update roms as soon as the official updates come along. There is really nothing to loose.
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I am not convinced you are correct in the statement that "Rooting does not block OTA updates". I have my Galaxy Note 2 (paid full price but then Samsung is giving me $375.00 for my *old* Galaxy Note so I am not complaining) that is only rooted, no custom rom or tweaks. Every time I go to check for updates "Settings, About Device, Software Update" it always says "Update Interrupted, phone will check for updates in the next 48 hours". This seems to me like it is not actually connecting to the update server (I have tried over WiFi and over 4g with the same results).
Could be that you are right and I am wrong and my phone is not right, but everything else about my Galaxy Note II is AWESOME.
I am counting on Kies having the update as soon as AT&T does it OTA and I will just get it by direct connection to my laptop.
(waiting . . . .)

erick161 said:
Cannot wait till the OTA comes out. I'm actually enjoy Touchwiz
*gasp*
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Me too. Especially on the Note II. TouchWiz based ROMs for me... loving the multi-view.
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rrackman said:
I am not convinced you are correct in the statement that "Rooting does not block OTA updates". I have my Galaxy Note 2 (paid full price but then Samsung is giving me $375.00 for my *old* Galaxy Note so I am not complaining) that is only rooted, no custom rom or tweaks. Every time I go to check for updates "Settings, About Device, Software Update" it always says "Update Interrupted, phone will check for updates in the next 48 hours". This seems to me like it is not actually connecting to the update server (I have tried over WiFi and over 4g with the same results).
Could be that you are right and I am wrong and my phone is not right, but everything else about my Galaxy Note II is AWESOME.
I am counting on Kies having the update as soon as AT&T does it OTA and I will just get it by direct connection to my laptop.
(waiting . . . .)
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I am pretty sure every phone I have had that has been rooted ( 7 phones and 1 tablet) has been able to download updates some couldn't install them. Just last week my rooted nexus 7 was prompted for the 4.2 OTA and it updated successfully. There is a chance you'll lose root or even brick your device. So be careful.

rrackman said:
I am not convinced you are correct in the statement that "Rooting does not block OTA updates". I have my Galaxy Note 2 (paid full price but then Samsung is giving me $375.00 for my *old* Galaxy Note so I am not complaining) that is only rooted, no custom rom or tweaks. Every time I go to check for updates "Settings, About Device, Software Update" it always says "Update Interrupted, phone will check for updates in the next 48 hours". This seems to me like it is not actually connecting to the update server (I have tried over WiFi and over 4g with the same results).
Could be that you are right and I am wrong and my phone is not right, but everything else about my Galaxy Note II is AWESOME.
I am counting on Kies having the update as soon as AT&T does it OTA and I will just get it by direct connection to my laptop.
(waiting . . . .)
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How are you getting 375 for the okd note. Att told me it was a little over 100 trade in value
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rrackman mentions Samsung not AT&T..Samsung does their own trade in your phone to upgrade to a Samsung program

biggggant said:
rrackman mentions Samsung not AT&T..Samsung does their own trade in your phone to upgrade to a Samsung program
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But but right on their website it says "up to" $300
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rrackman said:
I am not convinced you are correct in the statement that "Rooting does not block OTA updates". I have my Galaxy Note 2 (paid full price but then Samsung is giving me $375.00 for my *old* Galaxy Note so I am not complaining)
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You should complain. I got $450 for my Note 1.
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rrackman said:
I am not convinced you are correct in the statement that "Rooting does not block OTA updates". I have my Galaxy Note 2 (paid full price but then Samsung is giving me $375.00 for my *old* Galaxy Note so I am not complaining)
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a_ok2me said:
You should complain. I got $450 for my Note 1.
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Just kidding. I got $375 too.

Wow I didnt know that samsung did trade in's too. Ill have to look into the sgs3 trade in value since my kids took our notes snd left us with that and a nexus

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carhigh said:
Wow I didnt know that samsung did trade in's too. Ill have to look into the sgs3 trade in value since my kids took our notes snd left us with that and a nexus
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I found out about the upgrade offer via email. You might have to subscribe / register an account on their website to get emails, promos, etc. I was suprised my Note 1 upgrade was more than street value. It was a no-brainer to upgrade, although I was a bit hesitant because I like the Note 1 black color better.

Wtf note 1 trade 375. Sgs3 trade 275. Thats retarded. The 275 is better than craigslist moronic offers ive been getting. The note1 is outdated and less value than a sgs3. I dont get it the sgs3 isnt as old and far superior

carhigh said:
Wtf note 1 trade 375. Sgs3 trade 275. Thats retarded. The 275 is better than craigslist moronic offers ive been getting. The note1 is outdated and less value than a sgs3. I dont get it the sgs3 isnt as old and far superior
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Hey - it's rude to use the word retarded. You'll cry when you end up having a 'retarded' kid. Aside from that, I think the Note 1 is an alternative to the SG3. The specs are pretty much the same, but you get the bigger screen - unless you want the smaller screen.

a_ok2me said:
Hey - it's rude to use the word retarded. You'll cry when you end up having a 'retarded' kid. Aside from that, I think the Note 1 is an alternative to the SG3. The specs are pretty much the same, but you get the bigger screen - unless you want the smaller screen.
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Obviously you dont know what retard means and the note 1 compares in no way with the sgs3.

carhigh said:
Obviously you dont know what retard means and the note 1 compares in no way with the sgs3.
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Obviously you're still a kid.

the 4.4.X update - discussion thread

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/02/andr...alaxy-s4-s4-note-3-and-other-samsung-devices/
Today, Samsung announced that it would be pushing out KitKat to a slew of its Android-powered smartphones. Although we’re not precisely sure on specific dates for T-Mobile devices, the 4.4.2 update will be rolling out from today.
Among the list of devices being supported are the Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S 4 and S 3 as well as others. Full press release below:
DALLAS, February 18, 2014 – Samsung Telecommunications America (Samsung Mobile) announced today that a number of Samsung Galaxy® devices will receive the Android 4.4.2 (KitKat) software update, enriching the Galaxy experience.
The upgrade provides a number of innovative, easy-to-use features that enhance the user experience, including a more intuitive user interface, enhanced messaging capabilities and updated applications:
· Location Menu: An integrated location menu enables users to easily activate GPS, Wi-Fi and mobile networks, while simultaneously checking the battery usage of apps running location service capabilities.
· Enhanced Messaging: Enables users to choose between Messages or Hangouts as their preferred default messaging application, and select from a larger assortment of updated Emoji icons.
· Upgraded Google Mobile Service™ (GMS) apps: Users can automatically back up photos and video and can open, view, rename and share Google Docs and files.
Samsung Galaxy U.S. devices currently scheduled to receive the KitKat update include select carrier variants of the Galaxy Note® 3, Galaxy Note® II, Galaxy S® 4, Galaxy S® 4 mini™, Galaxy S® 4 Active™, Galaxy S® 4 zoom™, Galaxy S® III, Galaxy S® III mini™, Galaxy Mega®, Galaxy Light, Galaxy Note® 8.0, Galaxy Tab® 3, Galaxy Note® 10.1, Galaxy Note® 10.1 2014 Edition.
Availability varies by carrier and product, with updates beginning today and continuing throughout the coming months.
If you have one of the Galaxy devices mentioned in the announcement, be sure to let us know when/if the update lands. T-Mobile isn’t always speedy when it comes to giving the green light to software updates on Android. Let’s hope these start to land pretty snappish.

Nice. going to have to Odin back to stock then.

Still months away
TWEAKED 2.0 NOTE 3

Dattack said:
Nice. going to have to Odin back to stock then.
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Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.

marcoxx626 said:
Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.
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I am used to waiting to take updates being on VZW and what they did with breaking root with the Bionic and then the S4 fiasco. But why would Tmobile launch a phone with an unlocked bootloader only to lock it after an OTA update? It's one thing to patch an exploit, but to lock an unlocked bootloader when it was meant to launch unlocked I think would be stange. Again, I'm waiting anyway, but I think the phone will stay unlocked.

Not sure how excited I am for 4.4.2
No app ops. I can't believe google would intentionally remove a vital security feature. I guess we'll just have to add it back in

cun7 said:
Not sure how excited I am for 4.4.2
No app ops. I can't believe google would intentionally remove a vital security feature. I guess we'll just have to add it back in
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I agree! In fact, that's the first thing I thought about when I heard about the news.
We do, however, still have xPrivacy, though. I've donated to the developer and hopefully we'll see continued development including, I hope, a more user-friendly system closer to the way App Ops works. (For the record, I'm not knocking xProvacy; rather I'm pointing out that it could be easier to manage for laymen like myself.)

Eric214 said:
I am used to waiting to take updates being on VZW and what they did with breaking root with the Bionic and then the S4 fiasco. But why would Tmobile launch a phone with an unlocked bootloader only to lock it after an OTA update? It's one thing to patch an exploit, but to lock an unlocked bootloader when it was meant to launch unlocked I think would be stange. Again, I'm waiting anyway, but I think the phone will stay unlocked.
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i'm guessing you are right. But you have to remember, it's not TMO that's doing it. It's all part of Sammy Knox initiative to make the phones more secure. If you have an unlocked bootloader, there's no way to say that your product is secure. We've picked apart the last 3 builds /na6/na7/nb3 of kitkat from germany, and there's alot of pointless crap built into these roms that will have to be pulled out to , along with the regular developmental crap that sammy puts in there for "Future Updates" Like fingerprints scanner perms and instructions, radios that will never be used, and something pointing to a backup antennae even though the phone does not have one (that's for the note 10.1)
I think they are being lazy, , making one huge TW Rom and then modifying it for individual devices. If you look at the S4 release and the Note 3 release, they are identical builds minus screen size settings and the addition of spen support.

Any idea when the TMobile update will be available? Sprint customers are getting theirs from today.

Some people from g+ are claiming to get the Sprint updates yesterday. Wonder if someone from TMO got updated too.

There is a complete silence regarding Tmobile update. Even the dog slow at&t has a leaked version out.

Apparently us cellular is getting their update as well.
Here's the link if any one is curious.
http://phandroid.com/2014/02/20/us-cellular-note-3-kitkat/
I hope we're next
posted while using my note 3

I've have been with tmo from the beginning of this computer like smart phone generation, and I will say we are almost always the last to get an update. .. Our wifi calling and wifi alone had a bug for 6 months now no update when other carriers got the fix. .. Just saying. ...
Evertime there's an update these discussions happen. ... When when when. .. sit back relax and flash someone else's rom. ... lol
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Call it eye-Kat. Make it look exactly like iOS and give Apple the finger
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Check this out guys. Got it from comments on this article:
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/02/andr...alaxy-s4-s4-note-3-and-other-samsung-devices/
I'm on a KK custom ROM on my Note 3 so I'm not getting it. Maybe I need to flash back to stock. I'm in TX too btw.

djtheraven said:
I've have been with tmo from the beginning of this computer like smart phone generation, and I will say we are almost always the last to get an update. .. Our wifi calling and wifi alone had a bug for 6 months now no update when other carriers got the fix. .. Just saying. ...
Evertime there's an update these discussions happen. ... When when when. .. sit back relax and flash someone else's rom. ... lol
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IKR, the wifi bug is pissing me off!
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marcoxx626 said:
Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.
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Apparently using Mobile Odin you can flash the update with rootkeeper and you keep Knox at 0x0 and get a rooted 4.4.2 (make sure you set it to reboot into download to flash the bootloader)
Details are in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49502152
I wish T-Mobile would herry the heck up!!!!

dragonstalker said:
i'm guessing you are right. But you have to remember, it's not TMO that's doing it. It's all part of Sammy Knox initiative to make the phones more secure. If you have an unlocked bootloader, there's no way to say that your product is secure. We've picked apart the last 3 builds /na6/na7/nb3 of kitkat from germany, and there's alot of pointless crap built into these roms that will have to be pulled out to , along with the regular developmental crap that sammy puts in there for "Future Updates" Like fingerprints scanner perms and instructions, radios that will never be used, and something pointing to a backup antennae even though the phone does not have one (that's for the note 10.1)
I think they are being lazy, , making one huge TW Rom and then modifying it for individual devices. If you look at the S4 release and the Note 3 release, they are identical builds minus screen size settings and the addition of spen support.
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Yeah i can see where you're coming from. but I still don't think Sammy will lock it down, but we'll see.

TMO is busy now with their "marketing campaign" to attract new customers.. They have no time to do software updates for existing customers
Come on peeps cut them some slack

daraj said:
TMO is busy now with their "marketing campaign" to attract new customers.. They have no time to do software updates for existing customers
Come on peeps cut them some slack
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This is what I was afraid of when switching to TMO. Yeah I save money but at the cost of crappy CS service and very very slow to non-existant updates.
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Why can't the galaxy nexus use tap to pay?

Even though I'm on 4.4
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wish I knew... I loved the look on peoples faces when using it.

Larzzzz82 said:
wish I knew... I loved the look on peoples faces when using it.
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I loved that, too. It looks like Google disabled the functionality for devices that didn't get a factory KitKat ROM as of April 14th. I would post a link to the Google support page about it, but I'm too new to XDA to post links.
I started getting notices in the app over the last month, then the functionality disappeared on April 14th, just as it described. I'm not sure what the technical reason was, if any.

willpowerltd said:
I loved that, too. It looks like Google disabled the functionality for devices that didn't get a factory KitKat ROM as of April 14th. I would post a link to the Google support page about it, but I'm too new to XDA to post links.
I started getting notices in the app over the last month, then the functionality disappeared on April 14th, just as it described. I'm not sure what the technical reason was, if any.
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They want is to buy a new phone IMO

willpowerltd said:
I loved that, too. It looks like Google disabled the functionality for devices that didn't get a factory KitKat ROM as of April 14th. I would post a link to the Google support page about it, but I'm too new to XDA to post links.
I started getting notices in the app over the last month, then the functionality disappeared on April 14th, just as it described. I'm not sure what the technical reason was, if any.
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So they removed this for everyone? I thought i just screwed something up when i re set up after wiping and putting on a new ROM.
That blows. Loved being able to use GWallet.

that's ridiculous is there any sort of workaround in the works?

I've moved on to the Nexus 5 a few months ago but I don't remember that being an issue when I had the Galaxy Nexus. I was on Verizon and used Google Wallet just fine. I don't know if they updated something that broke it though.

Maybe the gnex doesn't have the host emulation thing?
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As I understand it, and I could very well be wrong, but I thought Host card emulation was a completely software driven system. No more need for the secure element on the Gnex anymore.

Larzzzz82 said:
As I understand it, and I could very well be wrong, but I thought Host card emulation was a completely software driven system. No more need for the secure element on the Gnex anymore.
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You are correct. If were lucky it might work again when they get the 3.4 kernel working.

DR3W5K1 said:
You are correct. If were lucky it might work again when they get the 3.4 kernel working.
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Still not working in CM 11 M7.

Yeah it doesn't work on paranoid now. I'm surprised not more people are concerned its this
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