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Awesome Resolution = tiny everything!

So I of course love the 720p HD resolution on my SGN, however it drives me NUTS how many things appear to be extremely small- text in many apps, certain buttons in certain apps (e.g. the top navigation button in official Twitter app), notifications in top of the tray, etc.
I know you can adjust the size of system font but it doesn't impact all apps and doesn't impact notification tray icons, app UI elements, etc.
Does this bother anyone else? Has anyone tinkered with adjusting density via an app or build.prop? Any feedback? My concern is that doing this often causes negative impacts in certain UI elements...

Things aren't small enough at all. I couldn't disagree more. Seems like the high res is almost a waste.

eallan said:
Things aren't small enough at all. I couldn't disagree more. Seems like the high res is almost a waste.
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Hmm interesting.... maybe it's because I'm coming from SGS2 in which everything was much larger due to the lower resolution being scaled/stretched up to fit the massive 4.52" screen. I know it leads to poorer rendering and pixelation, but was never really that noticeable (until placed side by side with my SGN).
Would still love any feedback if anyone has toyed with density...

You have to also take into account many apps aren't created for ICS. I feel some display elements may have changed from GB to ICS for phones

I think you're right in that you are just use to seeing a small resolution on a big screen and aren't use to the HD display.

Accessibility -> Large Text is always an option for those aging owners

lol...i wonder what the op would say to the fact that i use 240 dpi instead of the stock 320. my launcher is 6x6 w/search and my app drawer is 7x6. i find the stock 320 very big and a complete waste of the resolution.
ps-reduce google books font size to the minimum, you would be surprised at how tiny it gets, even more surprised at the fact that it is still crystal clear to your eye. the resolution is truly amazing!!

eallan said:
Things aren't small enough at all. I couldn't disagree more. Seems like the high res is almost a waste.
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I agree completely. There was actually a comparison on Android Police and the galaxy nexus showed less on screen than the atrix, despite it being higher resolution and a larger screen. Everything is way too big on the nexus and it's a huge waste of screen space.
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jamontoast1291 said:
I agree completely. There was actually a comparison on Android Police and the galaxy nexus showed less on screen than the atrix, despite it being higher resolution and a larger screen. Everything is way too big on the nexus and it's a huge waste of screen space.
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I agree. Not understandable how they could get to this...

Try using 240dpi like myself instead of 320dpi .

vertical lines. blobs..etc

am i the only one that is noticing this? while its not as apparent as it was on t989, this phone seems to have blobs, vertical lines and other screen defects
link to the issue thread for t989
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
ive went through 2 phones(one had physical defect) and both had this issue, so im going to guess its probably pretty widespread.
anyone wanna check their phones for these as well?
since blobs, lines are not acceptable on a 600dollar phone like this
To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.

Mine has a small line but it's like dead in the middle of the screen.
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RTFOP said:
Mine has a small line but it's like dead in the middle of the screen.
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mine too, only 3 small blobs, and a line
the thing with these screens is that the oleds are controlled by a voltage regulator, and when you turn the brightness down the voltage regulator can't neccearily provide enough voltage to the screen, which causes the issue we have
i was hoping samsung would have fixed this issue by now..its a surprise that they havnt

just to add
this is the kind of technology samsung needs;
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/ignis-technology-overview/ignis-maxlife-technology
and
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/ignis-technology-overview/intelligent-pixel

AznDud333 said:
am i the only one that is noticing this? while its not as apparent as it was on t989, this phone seems to have blobs, vertical lines and other screen defects
link to the issue thread for t989
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
ive went through 2 phones(one had physical defect) and both had this issue, so im going to guess its probably pretty widespread.
anyone wanna check their phones for these as well?
since blobs, lines are not acceptable on a 600dollar phone like this
To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
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People call it black crush it's known for anoled screens https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0.89.255.3.3.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.sJaoi5a2zrQ
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deeznutz1977 said:
People call it black crush it's known for anoled screens https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0.89.255.3.3.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.sJaoi5a2zrQ
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No, this is not black crush, the blobs and vertical lines are something else.
blackcrush does exist for these phones, but mura and vertical lines exists as well.

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To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
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Real life you sit around in a dark closet looking at a grey screen? Maybe your being a little too critical? Just enjoy the damn phone. It rocks!
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danr238 said:
Real life you sit around in a dark closet looking at a grey screen? Maybe your being a little too critical? Just enjoy the damn phone. It rocks!
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i wish i could
having had an T989(tmo gs2)
initially the screen looks like what we have now
just look again in a year, the lines will become so apparent that youd want to smash your phone
in either case, it would bother a lot of people when they us their phone at night.
not to mention that this is a 600dollar device, it needs to be flawless!

AznDud333 said:
i wish i could
having had an T989(tmo gs2)
initially the screen looks like what we have now
just look again in a year, the lines will become so apparent that youd want to smash your phone
in either case, it would bother a lot of people when they us their phone at night.
not to mention that this is a 600dollar device, it needs to be flawless!
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Nothing lasts forever. Get that through your head and you'll live a happier life.
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llustig said:
Nothing lasts forever. Get that through your head and you'll live a happier life.
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nothing does indeed, which is why im glad my credit card gave me a 2 year warranty on this phone
in either case, ive posted this so people are aware that this issue exists, should they take action against samsung

The 1st unit I had were free of dark lines; but I am confident that it had the mura effect as well but was much harder to find since the dots were concentrated on the edges (near the bezel) of the display; if you look carefully at all the T-Mobile note 2's, they all have the AMOLED issue. I did notice on my first unit extremely faint stains throughout the display just like in the demo unit (in black background), but the lines were not there and hardly any dots. However, the whites on my 1st unit were somewhat dull, not as bright as the demo unit at the store, and had a yellow tint on the 2nd half of the display, and a light pinkish hue to some extent at the center of the display in a full white background, and also had faint horizontal lines (only when looked carefully) at lowest brightness in a white background (which became worse and more prominent over time).
My 2nd unit, though it does have a 1cm black line in the middle of the display, with 3 or 4 dots on the top and bottom left of the display, the whites are true whites, and the display is much brighter than the 1st unit I had. No yellow tint to be found, no pinkish hue, and no faint horizontal lines at low brightness and white background! Surprisingly, the color and brightness uniformity are flawless on my 2nd Note 2 (throughout the display, white is white, even brightness) , compared to the '3' Galaxy S2's, '1' Note 1, and 1st Note 2 I owned in the past. Best of all, the build quality on my 2nd unit is also better, no squeaking bezel or back cover, and hardly any blemishes on the bezel. The light which was leaking through the home button is almost gone after a couple of weeks of use.
So far, it seems like my 2nd Note 2 is a safe and clear winner; really hard to find a unitform AMOLED display these days and my 2nd Note 2 just so has one.
Why send something back as a result of finding the slightest chance of a mura effect when you might get something worse in return.
Like many say on the forum, "I guess you can't get it all."

Note 2 owners... Convince me

I'm between the s3 and note 2. Help persuade me.
I like that the note 2 is bigger, I will be happy to read my books on it (instead of, or in conjunction with, my nexus 7)..
Battery life.
Ram.
But what else.
How's the camera compare.
Is it too big?
What don't people like.

it's a bit bigger which can be a downside for some people, but other than that everything is exactly the same or better.
the cpu is an overclocked version of the one in the international s3
the camera is the same.
the battery holds 50% more, plenty to compensate for the bigger screen and adding a bit more usage time.
RAM is the same as the US s3, and twice as much as the international model.
the screen is the same resolution, but because of the better subpixel layout the note 2 has a sharper looking screen.
the size is an issue for some, but if you often use your phone as a computer/tablet the convenience of a large screen outweighs the inconvenience of a large device.

Dual core (S3) vs Quad Core (N2)
S Pen functions
3100 milli amp battery
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jewnersey said:
I'm between the s3 and note 2. Help persuade me.
I like that the note 2 is bigger, I will be happy to read my books on it (instead of, or in conjunction with, my nexus 7)..
Battery life.
Ram.
But what else.
How's the camera compare.
Is it too big?
What don't people like.
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More screen, more battery, less plastic
The best HD Super AMOLED yet
Quad-core plus LTE
Perfect balance between a small tablet and large phone
Spen
Bigger ... and better?
The PDA strikes back
Performance
Camera
Software
Battery life
List goes on and on and on ................

Went to Verizon and played with both. Definitely leaning towards the N2.
What do you usually use the spen for? Feel like I would never pop it out?
I might be getting an n2 for 300-350 (used) ... But that's a steal right.

I use the stylus mostly for browsing and typing, and sometimes for notes(S note app) and drawing(colors!, and Photoshop touch)
browsing works better because small links are easier to click, scrolling works with smaller motions, and mouse-over events are handled correctly.
rather than typing, I use Swype which works very comfortably with the S-pen.
the included keyboard app also has swype-input(swiftkey flow actually) as well as a very accurate handwriting option, but I prefer swype.
several drawing apps have support for the S-pen, so they can respond to the button and can adjust the brush sizes or opacity based on pressure.
some puzzle/casual games can be very comfortable to play with a stylus, I play mahjong solitaire, Klondike solitaire, hextacy, sudoku, and collapse with the stylus.
some different game genres also work well with the stylus.
final fantasy III for example, or the music game osu!droid.
when I got the note 2 I already knew I was going to use the stylus for drawing, games, and browsing, but I never considered using any note-taking apps until I got a chance to use the S-pen with S note.

Why I think the Note 2 is worth getting instead of the S3:
1. Bigger Screen and despite the lower pixel density its not much noticeable.
2. Much Better battery performance (a very big factor)
3. Double the RAM meaning better suitable for future ROM upgrades.
4. Faster CPU although not by much.
5. Spen- very handy for some creativity work.
6. Better and louder sound on the external speaker
7. Housing and Display are easier to replace compared to S3.
8. More premium feel
9. @ Point 1- Larger screen+ lower DPI= easily replaces a tablet and suitable for ported Tablet ROMs.
10. Its the latest in phablet models compared to the S3 that has already been outdated by the S4.
Need I say more?
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bushako: I find the difference very noticeable.
from a distance of 30-50cm I can already see a pattern like a chain-link fence on the S3(or any pentile screen) but on a Note 2 I can't see it's grid pattern beyond 5-10cm.
so I'd say the note 2 has a better screen, even without counting the bigger size.

Simply the Note 2 has more performance because of his RAM and CPU. It also have more battery capacity and the S Pen is a great feature to use. Because of that I use it in school and I great because the big screen make it easier to write. Another thing is the screen, it has a great resolution so videos and images look great. Web navigation is also easier with the big screen and with some mods you can use the multiwindow feature with all apps.
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Well I'm sold. The size is my only concern, but everywhere I look, nobody complains, so it cannot be that bad.

jewnersey said:
Well I'm sold. The size is my only concern, but everywhere I look, nobody complains, so it cannot be that bad.
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You will get used to, when I carry my Note 2 around many people say how I can use such a big phone but surprisingly you'll like it after you use it, and I can say that now anything smaller than the note seems small to me
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thedicemaster said:
bushako: I find the difference very noticeable.
from a distance of 30-50cm I can already see a pattern like a chain-link fence on the S3(or any pentile screen) but on a Note 2 I can't see it's grid pattern beyond 5-10cm.
so I'd say the note 2 has a better screen, even without counting the bigger size.
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Yea but I find that noticeable only if I focus hard enough and up close on the pixels otherwise the S3 has a fairly descent display. That is not to say the Note 2 isnt, in fact i find it just as good. My main problem with the low pixel density of the Note 2 is when lowering the DPI anywhere lower than 240, its when the icons start showing rough edges. Other than that, I'm quite happy with the both I think that although you don't see the grid patterns on the Note 2, it does come at the expense of slightly reduced clarity.
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What technique do you use to deaw a smooth curve

I still havent quite got to grips with drawing on my tablet yet. One of the major issues im having is drawing a smooth curved line.
I can sketch an image with out any issues, but when i come to add a new layer and start to ink out the lines I always find my curves to be wavey. It takes several attempts to draw my lines as if i go to slow, ill follow the intended path but be "wobbley" or if i got to fast, I'll get a smooth line but not always on the path i intended.
Is this something you get used to after a while or is it something I will just have to learn to live with? I dont seem to have this problem with physical media.
I say major issue... My real major issue at the moment is inspiration. I'm finding with the amount of games I have installed on it, I'm far to distracted to have a good drawing session.

a lot of drawing programs have an assisted line drawing tool. i cant think of the
official name though. it makes inking a whole lot easier.

The main issue with drawing smooth curves for me is the size of tablet. more often than not you end up using the wrist action instead of the forearm action and that makes it or breaks it.
I am thinking on getting a matte screen protector myself as heard that it provides a little friction feels like a better surface.
someone also pointed out to try and place a tracing paper over the screen, haven't tried that as couldn't find where I kept those papers, however i did try with a thin translucent white paper (and setting brightness quite high) and found it does indeed help in drawing smooth curves.
I hope some art app maker comes with some tolerance settings for smoothing out the curves, that would be a blessing.

Uneven vertical scrolling?!?

Hello all. I just got my note 10.1 2014. I haven't been able to play a lot with it but I just noticed a serious flaw.
If I use it vertically and go let's say to a long page and scroll up or down , then the right part of the screen responds faster and the page scrolls unevenly. If I move my hand slow up and down the page scrolls like a wave.
This does not happen horizontally where everything remains straight while scrolling.
It happens on everything. Long contact list , developers option menu, gmail widget etc.
Can someone please check that? Is my note faulty or this is common?
Thanks
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Tested in Play Store, Gmail, Reddit Sync, and Tapatalk. No such issue. Little less smooth vertically, but no left/right imbalance.

Mine is very heavily imbalanced. Can this be hardware issue?
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Couldn't reproduce it, neither on the standard internet browser nor on Chrome. Maybe there is a lot going on in the background. Can you Restart the Note 10.1 and see if the problem goes away?

yes, it's there. it's also visible on the galaxy note 8. if you scroll up and down you'll see a distorted text line. it's only when scrolling, not when reading so it's not really much of an issue.

I did a factory reset. Update to latest software. Etc. It's still there. And I'm not talking about distorted text. The right party of the screen scrolls faster than the left part so the screen looks like it's bending. When I stop the scrolling its fine.
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that's what i'm talking about. a slight wobbly effect. it's just more noticable with straight objects like type. a guy posted a video on the gn 8 forums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-tKflikYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. It's more noticeable if I have the Samsung logo on the right hand. So strange but seems that I have to live with it.
Thanks!
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Lympe said:
Hello all. I just got my note 10.1 2014. I haven't been able to play a lot with it but I just noticed a serious flaw.
If I use it vertically and go let's say to a long page and scroll up or down , then the right part of the screen responds faster and the page scrolls unevenly. If I move my hand slow up and down the page scrolls like a wave.
This does not happen horizontally where everything remains straight while scrolling.
It happens on everything. Long contact list , developers option menu, gmail widget etc.
Can someone please check that? Is my note faulty or this is common?
Thanks
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Ahhhh yes...This is a hard one to explain but I know exactly what you are talking about. I first noticed this occurrence when I briefly had the Nexus 10. It was really bad on that tablet. So bad it was to the point where I could not hold it in portrait any more. It was so annoying. I ultimately returned it for light bleed but blamed the screen "wave" while scrolling to an under powered GPU.
So after I returned the N10 I went back to my HP Touchpad with ICS to await the next great 10 inch tablet to come out (took a year). Anyways, I started to notice it on there as well!! But it was much harder to see. I did a little researching on the interwebs and its a hard thing to describe and search for.
I tested it on many tablets in store to see if I could replicate it and the only ones that had it bad were the high def ones with high PPI counts. 1920 x 1200 pixels and up mainly.
I did more research and from what I read it is the fact that there are so many pixels that when you scroll they all are not changing exactly accross at the same time. So as the screen refreshes there is a slight delay from the first row to the last row when scrolling.
Experiment time:
Warning this is one of those "once you see it you cant unsee it ever again" things.....have your note 2014 in portrait with the buttons on the left, find a website with a lot of text that you can scroll (reddit.com), now scroll up and down in a fluid motion going about a full page length each way. The pixels on the left side of the screen are slightly behind the ones on the right. I guarantee it happens on yours too....
There is no fix for this. It just comes with the territory when you start getting into big ultra high def screens. I'm sure in the future they will probably hash this out but right now this is what we get. But I will say the screen on the Galaxy Note 2014 is far less "wavy" than the Nexus 10. If you don't believe me go to a store with an N10 put it in portrait and scroll with that. It's pretty bad.
All in all the "scroll wave" on the Note 2014 is not bad at all in my opinion. I just wanted to let you know that you are not the only one and it happens all across the board in varying degrees. I'm happy with mine just how it is and use it in portrait all the time
Side note: It's much harder to see on cell phones if at all. Not sure why but it's probably easier to see when you have a 10 inch.
Side note 2: When you hold it in landscape the effect is much harder to see because you are not scrolling left to right much it's up and down. But if you look closely you can see a slight "accordion" effect. Its the same principle but just harder to see. Again it's really not that bad on the Note 2014.

On a site note, I've seen that wobbly scrolling get introduced with a recent OTA on Note 8.0 so it's a software/driver issue.

mi7chy said:
On a site note, I've seen that wobbly scrolling get introduced with a recent OTA on Note 8.0 so it's a software/driver issue.
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Interesting....I can replicate it on many devices across many different hardware manufacturers though. It's like one of the first things I check when I play around with tablets. The constant is that it seems to be the high res ones and only in certain holding positions like portrait or landscape. But most of them do it from what I recall. I do want to try it on an ipad though...I tend to steer clear of those
Also with that thinking then my HP Touchpad, Nexus 10 and Note 2014 all have software/driver issues. Let alone all the ones in the store you can replicate it with like the note 8, ASUS tranformer infinity, etc. So then they all have bad software/drivers? I just don't think it's likely. Some screens are better than others with this but there seems to be a common theme here...high PPI count on large screens.

Bumping an old post, but has anybody seen any improvement with this in the last 10 months?

talz13 said:
Bumping an old post, but has anybody seen any improvement with this in the last 10 months?
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Of course not since we haven't received any update anyway. Just use it horizontally and you won't notice it
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