As Canonical launch Ubuntu for phone today.. I'm pretty excited about this project and according to what he said, we will be able to download the first release within next 1 or 2 weeks.
My question is, since Android and Ubuntu share kernel and driver, is there any possible way to run dual boot on the same phone?
How would we know? You couldn't wait till it was out so we'd even know the install process?
063_XOBX said:
How would we know? You couldn't wait till it was out so we'd even know the install process?
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You coundn't answer without being snotty and arrogant?
He was just asking a question, the attitude is unnecessary.
fredphoesh said:
You coundn't answer without being snotty and arrogant?
He was just asking a question, the attitude is unnecessary.
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Not arrogant; straight to the point. And Android doesnt share the same kernel as Linux. If they did, then Android would be in 3.8.x or 3.6.x stable.
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There's a way to be straight to the point and not imply that the OP's question shouldn't have been asked. It was a good question. It's too bad that the semi-anonymous nature of the internet allows people to be ruder than they'd be in person. Forums are here for people to ask each other questions. That's the point of it all.
So to answer the OP's question, take a look at this. It's not really dual boot but you may find it interesting. I'm personally really excited about this.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android.
Oh and regarding Ubuntu and Android not being able to share the same kernel, here's a quote from the above website:
"It lets Android and Ubuntu share the same Linux kernel, so they can run at the same time – Android for the phone experience and Ubuntu when docked."
I said android and Linux, not android and Ubuntu.
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I have dual boot Android and Ubuntu on my Infinity, and they share the same kernel...
I'm not quite sure what you mean by Android and Linux versus Android and Ubuntu?
Because Ubuntu isn't Ubuntu Mobile. And it isn't actually being run on your device it's being emulated.
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Because Ubuntu isn't Ubuntu Mobile. And it isn't actually being run on your device it's being emulated.
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How so?
Ubuntu (which is what the OP was about) can share a kernel with Android. This is proven by the post I linked to.
As to dual booting Ubuntu mobile and android, we'll have to wait.
Either way the OP was right about one thing: its very exciting.
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Hey guys I have been getting into a lot of modding and such I was wondering what programs you guys recommend using to develop apps, roms, mods and stuff like that on a mac. I just have one request; please don't tell me to get a windows computer. I can't afford it or I would.
Thanks for any help
For apps, you can easily install Eclipse and download all of the Android SDK bits.
You can also partition your hard drive and run Linux .
It's actually better to use a Mac than a PC. You don't really need any special apps or tools besides what comes in the SDK. And on a Mac, you can build android from source. You can't on a PC.
I have a Mac and I've used it for developing
Thanks for the quick replies. Can the SDK tools be used to tweak apks?
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It's actually better to use Mac OSX than Windows. You don't really need any special apps or tools besides what comes in the SDK. And on a Mac OSX, you can build android from source. You can't on a Windows.
I have a Mac and I've used it for developing
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Fixed that for you.
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Fixed that for you.
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You know what I meant
not to start a war... but linux is way better supported.
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bk201doesntexist said:
not to start a war... but linux is way better supported.
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You're right. For deving it goes Linux>OS X>>>>>Windows
Hello all.
Do you think it's possible to work on an Ubuntu port from nexus 4 for our devices?
Maybe someone is already working on it. If yes could you tell us please.
Thanks you devs for your hard work!
Maybe image from n7 would be easier to port since it is tegra 3...
all i can say would love to se this tested out due to the Nexus 7 sharing the tegra 3 but there is alot of other issues at hand that may be different but the dev have made wonders of previous things.
Yes I agree with you. Deva are really goods here. I'm a noob in Linux dev. So n7 image is ready to download it's why I asked this question... I would like to try but I don't want to brick my phone... But I'm really interested to try Ubuntu...
An official porting guide will be availllable at 15pm... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
We want to see ports for our HTC One X Some developers already ported it to SGS3.
I think is better wait for a port when radio and other works.
Because, the first image, have the radio off, kernel is unstable and a lot of pics are fake
To anybody else trying: can you get the "phablet-dev-bootstrap" command to work? 'Cause I can't.
I'll try at home... Work in progress for one x+... Maybe it's will be easier to port it...
Sorry for question but i'm interesting: why port a pre-alpha release when don't work anything?
I think in 2 months there are new release with a stable kernel and with radio on
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To anybody else trying: can you get the "phablet-dev-bootstrap" command to work? 'Cause I can't.
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Yes I can
add the repo, download it and it worked just fine
Guich said:
Sorry for question but i'm interesting: why port a pre-alpha release when don't work anything?
I think in 2 months there are new release with a stable kernel and with radio on
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Because of.... I need it! I want to give it a try and most probably, whenever it becomes a bit more usable, we won't have to start everything from scratches.
I'm trying to do something with the port, can't assure anything... no enthusiastic comments please!
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It was an info question
I think is better take a port when it will be more usable but we are free and my it was a question!
Don't worry mate
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no problem! I think that it will be a maintainment and not a new start!
p.s. ciao collega
We just want to see how it look & work... I don't care about radio
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virtualflyer said:
no problem! I think that it will be a maintainment and not a new start!
p.s. ciao collega
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Ok
P.s. good ciao
utopykzebulon said:
We just want to see how it look & work... I don't care about radio
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Well, i have a friend with gnexus, he tried ubuntu and: the kernel is unstable and is laggy
So, i think radio is important, because you can use wifi and signal network...
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TToivanen said:
To anybody else trying: can you get the "phablet-dev-bootstrap" command to work? 'Cause I can't.
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yes you have to install phablet-tools package.
Ok I got it syncing, made a noobish mistake.
As you all know "Ubuntu for phones" has been released for the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. Lets discuss about this being a possiblity to port on our device.
A porting guide will be posted on Ubuntu website on 22nd (which is today in India).
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Stay_tuned.21
Great my fingers-crossed hope we can take advantage of Ubuntu in our phone
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Dual Boot
Just curious, the porting guide says that Ubuntu runs over the stock kernel, if it's right, would it be possible to run it in dual boot?
Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) is having official support and currently the port is work in progress. Apart from the system partition size issue, if samsung galaxy s can run it, so can defy. This is very early stage and we can only presume such thing.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Floydroider said:
Just curious, the porting guide says that Ubuntu runs over the stock kernel, if it's right, would it be possible to run it in dual boot?
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So no problem with locked bootloader ?
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Marmotte51 said:
So no problem with locked bootloader ?
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Should not be, most of the phones which can run cm 10.1 can easily handle this. Building it too doesn't look much difficult. "Ubuntu for phones" is surprisingly based on CM sources.
I've not enough speed for syncing sources, maybe Kayant or m11kkaa can build it for us.
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Should not be, most of the phones which can run cm 10.1 can easily handle this. Building it too doesn't look much difficult. "Ubuntu for phones" is surprisingly based on CM sources.
I've not enough speed for syncing sources, maybe Kayant or m11kkaa can build it for us.
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Till it gets stable enough to worth porting, we will probably have CM 10.1 and kernel 3.0 working perfectly
A little update
I have successfully compiled the the ubuntu zip for our defy however, am facing a major issue at the moment which is the prebulit image that is needed to flash before installing the defy zip is not being installed for some reason Am currently trying to find why this is but no luck so far...... I think I may be something to do with our data partition..... maybe the preimage is too big for it??? that am not sure but I have just reduced it by deleting some images and videos included in the demo..... Hopefully it will decide to work this time
Edit - that did the trick it's working now ^_^
Link to thread ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174544
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I have successfully compiled the the ubuntu zip for our defy however, am facing a major issue at the moment which is the prebulit image that is needed to flash before installing the defy zip is not being installed for some reason Am currently trying to find why this is but no luck so far...... I think I may be something to do with our data partition..... maybe the preimage is too big for it??? that am not sure but I have just reduced it by deleting some images and videos included in the demo..... Hopefully it will decide to work this time
Edit - that did the trick it's working now ^_^
Link to thread ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174544
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what is the version of kernel?
sorry for my bad english
Hello!
I am an ubuntu user since 2006 or so and was quiet happy to see the news about it on phones but the hardware requirements are a bit stronger than what our device has. I remember something about minimum dualcore processors and 1 Gb ram. But if someone manages that'd be fun
Keboid said:
Hello!
I am an ubuntu user since 2006 or so and was quiet happy to see the news about it on phones but the hardware requirements are a bit stronger than what our device has. I remember something about minimum dualcore processors and 1 Gb ram. But if someone manages that'd be fun
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That's for the high end.... low spec our defy matches most of the requirements.....
Let's Go ^_^
I've tried it and the screen does not work
rol525 said:
I've tried it and the screen does not work
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What exactly do you mean Is the phone not booting pass the black screen after the moto logo.... if so you need to make sure you have wipe data if not the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip won't be installed and flashed the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip first or it will never boot.
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What exactly do you mean Is the phone not booting pass the black screen after the moto logo.... if so you need to make sure you have wipe data if not the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip won't be installed and flashed the quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip first or it will never boot.
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passes the logo and came to the screen of 14 tweets
sorry for my bad english
pd: i restore cm9
rol525 said:
passes the logo and came to the screen of 14 tweets
sorry for my bad english
pd: i restore cm9
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Then it works .... I think I see what you mean now..... yh it q Ubuntu bug u have to switch off the phone by removing the battery....
Let's Go ^_^
i have a mb525 green lens
Well, i had time to watch the videos and what to say as an old ubuntu user... its just awesome!!
Hi,
i know there is a thread for the Android K3 but is there also someone working on the Sense K3??
HandyBesitzer said:
Hi,
i know there is a thread for the Android K3 but is there also someone working on the Sense K3??
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no
Is there maybe an tutorial how Kernel porting works??
Did u check in the Android Development & Hacking thread? Theres a **** load of guides there.
yes but i allways just find qestions from other devs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=175536693
and not tutorials
HandyBesitzer said:
yes but i allways just find qestions from other devs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=175536693
and not tutorials
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mite be something there
Thanks.
is ubuntu necessary?? or can i do it with Windows??
HandyBesitzer said:
Thanks.
is ubuntu necessary?? or can i do it with Windows??
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really dont know, but from reading guides before about porting roms, 90% of them say best use ubuntu but for me, learning how to to use ubuntu was probably harder than porting a rom haha so hats off to the devs.
Yes you can use windows to build or port kernels but it is much much harder than just using ubuntu. Ubuntu has 90% of the things needed already but with using windows you need to install alot of things to make it work. will take twice as long using windows tbh. Better off getting hold of say a 80Gb hdd and installing ubuntu onto it and using it as just a development OS. If your thinking porting kernel 3 is going to be easy your very very mistaken. Kernel 3 will take months to port and while noonamer has ported a good 80% much more things still need to be done as your device is not designed to run kernel 3. I don't have desire so could not really say but let me tell you if you do not know anything about kernels or do not even know how to port then the chances of you getting it done are about 6%. Now i am not trying to put you off giving it a go but i am just stating the facts. xx
Let's wait first for kernel 3.x anyway, and start porting then.
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Can i take cygwin instead of a Linux install?? Because cygwin i allread have installed
HandyBesitzer said:
Can i take cygwin instead of a Linux install?? Because cygwin i allread have installed
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You could try this thing
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
Boot ubuntu from usb. Easy, and you won't struggle that much. Virtual machines and cygwin are a pain in the ass.
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You could try this thing
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
Boot ubuntu from usb. Easy, and you won't struggle that much. Virtual machines and cygwin are a pain in the ass.
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I found running ubuntu off a usb really slow, even though my pc is pretty decent.
Like abaaaabbbb63 said, virtual machines and cygwin are even worse.
I would recommend dual booting it with windows. Its actually quite easy to setup.
I watched this guide and literally had everything done in about ten minutes.
Its definitely the best way to go if you want speed.
It literally takes me like 30 minutes to get ubuntu installed get all needed software for compiling installed and get everything set up. You need to install git you need to get a JDK installed then you need to get hold of a tool chain then install adb + fastboot best installed via PPA. then your still not ready because you will need to learn basics of git then you will need t o learn how to compile aswell. If your new to kernel development your going to need to study kernel development before you even think about setting up a linux machine. This studying is needed because some people will open up multiple threads because they failed to study it before setting up the machine. Best thing you can do is study study study x
It took me 3 days to learn how to port kernels, compile and it is very hard xx
Maybe you can tell me .
JDK still installed and adb + fastboot too
I'm waiting for aosp kernel 3.x first.. then merge them with HTC kernel.
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It literally takes me like 30 minutes to get ubuntu installed get all needed software for compiling installed and get everything set up. You need to install git you need to get a JDK installed then you need to get hold of a tool chain then install adb + fastboot best installed via PPA. then your still not ready because you will need to learn basics of git then you will need t o learn how to compile aswell. If your new to kernel development your going to need to study kernel development before you even think about setting up a linux machine. This studying is needed because some people will open up multiple threads because they failed to study it before setting up the machine. Best thing you can do is study study study x
It took me 3 days to learn how to port kernels, compile and it is very hard xx
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Pretty weird Lisa, i got compiling done in ca. 3 hours. But i failed at the menu (
It's possible to run linux on android (google app store) app. And install ubuntu on the app and run the same using chroot. Will this be possible in any of the new roms that are posted in the developers area? Thanks for your answer, this will be principal factor in my decision to buy this device.
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It's possible to run linux on android (google app store) app. And install ubuntu on the app and run the same using chroot. Will this be possible in any of the new roms that are posted in the developers area? Thanks for your answer, this will be principal factor in my decision to buy this device.
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I don't see why not, you could even port native Ubuntu over with a little effort since the 5420 soc already has Linux ports.
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I don't see why not, you could even port native Ubuntu over with a little effort since the 5420 soc already has Linux ports.
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if you have the device, would you be so kind to try, and confirm, the app and ubuntu is working fine. thanks in advance.
pogo123 said:
if you have the device, would you be so kind to try, and confirm, the app and ubuntu is working fine. thanks in advance.
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http://releases.linaro.org/14.01/ubuntu/arndale-octa
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http://releases.linaro.org/14.01/ubuntu/arndale-octa
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Hmm. very interesting thanks for the info... Any hands on experience with "Complete Linux Installer" , "https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid&hl=en" Running Linux native in the device sounds interesting, but running ubuntu on the same within android is exactly what I need at this moment. In some of the devices that I use to have especially with a original rom this process is not supported. If any body had done this process in the device and could advise will be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
I'll give it a go on my Tab S 8.4 and report back...
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I'll give it a go on my Tab S 8.4 and report back...
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Thanks
Seems to work over VNC, not naively.
First attempt doesn't download the image, have to investigate...
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Seems to work over VNC, not naively.
First attempt doesn't download the image, have to investigate...
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just pull the trigger and buy one of this little tablet. will try and let everyone know if the installer works.
I tried it on the SM-T800 (WIFI) and it doesn´t worked at all because it cannot run the loop mode (?)
I´m trying linux on android for the first time so maybe someone can help me with it!
I need to figure out if it would be possible if i had another Kernel or another rom.
At the moment I´m running ThunderRom 800
Thanks in advance!
Maxiking
Same here. seems to need the ability to do a mount loop. any ideas.
I get "unable to create loopback device" error. Blows..
Does anybody knows the complete procedure to activate loop device on the smt800