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Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. I have been rooting/modding since I got my first Android but I have always had the same carrier. So can someone explain what would happen if we flashed a ROM from the Samsung galaxy s 2 forum on to an eg4t? Is it just hardware differences that keep things like that from being possible or is there some other reason.
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Very bad things. There have been reports of people not even being able to get their phones into download mode to ODIN stock .tars (a true brick).
Just don't do it to be safe.
garradalexanderkiss said:
Forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. I have been rooting/modding since I got my first Android but I have always had the same carrier. So can someone explain what would happen if we flashed a ROM from the Samsung galaxy s 2 forum on to an eg4t? Is it just hardware differences that keep things like that from being possible or is there some other reason.
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Flashing ROMs from the International SGS2 or a another variant won't work. It's due to a number of reasons but long story short, safe yourself the trouble and don't even try. I doubt you would permanently brick you device (I read the comment above me and looks like there is a chance of BRICKING your device)..
Our Epic Touches have different radios (CDMA vs. GSM), WiMax, etc. so the kernel, ROMs and modems are different..
I'm new to the whole Android community and I was messing around with my new Wind Galaxy S3 T999V. I got it rooted and everything was fine until i tried to install a kernel not realizing that it was for the I9300 version. Now I'm pretty sure I'm hardbricked, so to stop myself from getting into this situation again, I wanted to know how the kernels and roms worked different in each type of phone.
I read that removing certain files like boot and radio from the roms allow you to use them on different variants. Is that the same case when it comes to kernels or do kernels operate completely differently. As I said, complete noob here and trying to learn but I'm so confused with all these different things.
Your help is very appreciated.
-Sarmad
Just make sure you are in the correct forum and each ROM and/or kernel has detailed instructions as to what to do, what their programs do, and which phones they are for.
I can't give much specific advice or answer questions, I'm a noob as well.
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Oh I've learned my lesson, but I want to know if I can take other ROMS/ kernels and remove certain files that will conflict with my phone and still be able to to get the REST of the rom/ kernel working on my phone. Or if I can tweak certain rom/ kernels and put the necessary files for my phone within them and have them working smoothly.
Main problem being, that I'm on Wind and the dev community for the Canadian stuff is small, so I'd just port over T-mobile stuff or the international roms & kernels.
Anybody even reading these? Could defs use the help as random posts aren't really helping me understand. And I really don't wanna brick another phone.
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sarmadical said:
Oh I've learned my lesson, but I want to know if I can take other ROMS/ kernels and remove certain files that will conflict with my phone and still be able to to get the REST of the rom/ kernel working on my phone. Or if I can tweak certain rom/ kernels and put the necessary files for my phone within them and have them working smoothly.
Main problem being, that I'm on Wind and the dev community for the Canadian stuff is small, so I'd just port over T-mobile stuff or the international roms & kernels.
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unless you are a dev/op your self. i would not mess with that stuff. use roms/kernels that are your for exact model and carrier. you are risking another brick man.
True. But I wouldn't mind info on how those things work, you never know could get into developing for android.
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True. But I wouldn't mind info on how those things work, you never know could get into developing for android.
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very true. i love learning new things my self and would be awesome if i could learn how to do all the dev stuff but it takes time and patience.. two things i am not really good with haha.
Hello, I was curious if you can flash ROMs from the S3's from other carriers besides T-Mobile and also flash ROMs from the international forums. I remeber back when i had my Vibrant all you would have to do is flash the correct boot.img and also replace the keylayout file. Is it as simple as flashing a tmobile boot.img since the keys are all the same? Thank you in advance.
don't do it.
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There is a possibility of sharing ROMs with the AT&T model. If you go check out their forum, there are a couple of ROMs which people have successfully flashed on the T-Mobile model. Search the threads and flash at your own risk!
vinvam said:
There is a possibility of sharing ROMs with the AT&T model. If you go check out their forum, there are a couple of ROMs which people have successfully flashed on the T-Mobile model. Search the threads and flash at your own risk!
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That is totally true. On the Hercules you could flash the skyrocket roms. But the T-Mobile ones are usually better. The att ones are really only better when att leaks first.
Don't do it was an oversimplification, however.
Just heard about too many people flashing the international roms.
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Android_Monsters said:
That is totally true. On the Hercules you could flash the skyrocket roms. But the T-Mobile ones are usually better. The att ones are really only better when att leaks first.
Don't do it was an oversimplification, however.
Just heard about too many people flashing the international roms.
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So there isnt a way to flash the international ROMs? Without bricking
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So there isnt a way to flash the international ROMs? Without bricking
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Nope, the hardware internally is too different. I doubt there'll be an easy method to port the ROMs either.
The AT&T ROMs on the other hand should be fairly easy to port and I think there is a group working towards this goal.
You will lose your insurance.
Just to let you know, you will lose your phone's insurance, this is not the same as the 90 day warranty. I remember I had flashed my vibrant to a rom using the international model, about six months later I got a letter in the mail saying assurion would no longer insure my phone, because it wasn't the right model. I might have been able to add the text file that adds the correct model number, but I don't know if that really works or how to I it.
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Just to let you know, you will lose your phone's insurance, this is not the same as the 90 day warranty. I remember I had flashed my vibrant to a rom using the international model, about six months later I got a letter in the mail saying assurion would no longer insure my phone, because it wasn't the right model. I might have been able to add the text file that adds the correct model number, but I don't know if that really works or how to I it.
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In this case they could have seen the flashing being done and the changing of the build.prop file. That would make the most sense to me.
You obviously haven't been reading...heck go for it.
You CAN NOT do other roms, as was stated, the hardware is different.
Not that hard to search. Do it and report back with results.
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Hello, I was curious if you can flash ROMs from the S3's from other carriers besides T-Mobile and also flash ROMs from the international forums. I remeber back when i had my Vibrant all you would have to do is flash the correct boot.img and also replace the keylayout file. Is it as simple as flashing a tmobile boot.img since the keys are all the same? Thank you in advance.
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neverrrr do that lol. Unless you want a bricked phone. Only flash roms from your carrier.
dannyyyyy said:
neverrrr do that lol. Unless you want a bricked phone. Only flash roms from your carrier.
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AT&T ROMs and even Sprint ROMs work just fine if you configure APN settings.
Roms from the international S3 WILL brick your phone.
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what he said above me is correct, ive flashed both carriers to mine and it went flawlessly
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don't do it.
or try att rom
why? why would anyone need to flash a ROM from a completely different carrier?
Cobra281 said:
why? why would anyone need to flash a ROM from a completely different carrier?
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Because some of the other ROMs have features ours might not? Who cares as long as they don't flash an i9300 ROM they'll be fine.
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joshnichols189 said:
Because some of the other ROMs have features ours might not? Who cares as long as they don't flash an i9300 ROM they'll be fine.
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true, but it is risky. also, do sprint and verizon ROMs work, verifiably?
Cobra281 said:
true, but it is risky. also, do sprint and verizon ROMs work, verifiably?
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Apparently Sprint's do, but Verizon's a no-go right now because they have some additional SIM verification.
Cobra281 said:
true, but it is risky. also, do sprint and verizon ROMs work, verifiably?
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Risky is an i9300 rom because the SoC is 100% different. We all have the same SoC so it's not as big of a deal.
joshnichols189 said:
AT&T ROMs and even Sprint ROMs work just fine if you configure APN settings.
Roms from the international S3 WILL brick your phone.
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Hey,
How do you configure the apn settings? I'm on an att rom and love it, on wifi it is fine but when it says 4g away from wifi no luck with service. I can get edge, but that is it.
thanks,
BillY
Ok I figured it out but I cant get the att apn to stick does the phone have to be unlocked?
Considering the similarities between the domestic variants of the Note 2 and their international counterparts, would anyone be willing to test some of the success that the folks over in the AT&T forum have had with porting the international N7100/N7105 firmware/ROM's over to the Sprint Note 2
Check out these two threads over in the AT&T forum and see what you all think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018411
The basic gist of the procedure is to use a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP to flash a stock N7100/N7105 firmware, and then flash your carrier specific modem/kernel.
Why would anyone want to do this? Well, for starters, you would benefit from built-in stock-supported tethering, and a few other features that carriers disable (YMMV). But mainly this means that the domestic versions of the Note 2 can benefit from the development of the international versions! So, when the latest version of Android comes out for the rest of the world, we aren't stuck here waiting for our carrier to catch up to everyone else...
So what do you all think? Anyone willing to try?
Clarification: Just so everyone is on the same page here, I want to stress that, while this process is successful on both the AT&T and T-Mobile GN2's, this is VERY dangerous if you do not know what you are doing. I would NOT recommend anyone try this unless you are confident in your abilities to recover from a brick situation.
Again, if you are even REMOTELY interested in trying this out on your own, don't even think about bothering with it unless you absolutely know what you are doing! I take no responsibility for any bricks that come from someone trying this without the proper experience and know-how. You have been warned!
it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also this ------------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1992947
skyjedi said:
it works on the ATT variant because it and the international are both GSM. We are CDMA, i doubt that it would be as easy. Using verizon ROMs might be a different story though.
Also maybe Q&A not general?
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
See, I'm not so sure. At least this time around, the radio's are pretty much the only major differences, and those can be governed by the kernel and modem.bin, so if anyone's willing to try it, it could be well worth a try!
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No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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Not a single one in the Q&A section either.
This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Epix4G said:
No the partitions are completely different also .... so flashing the international roms could definitely brick it
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Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
sleshepic said:
This thread is dangerous, dont normally say that, but PLEASE dont encourage (or even put the idea in peoples heads) that they should flash something for a different phone. What you described is NOT porting. Your asking for a brick flashing different firmware. And why dont YOU try it then get back to us....on your computer, cus your phone will be a paperweight
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Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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na7q said:
Partitions aren't completely. They are almost identical. You just need to flash the OS properly.
Not recommended for sure. At least for beginners. You can flash their stock ROMs is you flash properly flash them and make sure there's no radio and that you use your stock kernel.
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They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16
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They are different though
/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 /data -ours
/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /data -theirs.
We have /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 /carrier at 16
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Yep. Nearly identical. I flash your ROMs and theirs. I'm on a US Cellular note. Just gotta flash properly. I'm using your stock ROM on my phone. Just takes some know how.
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There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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rawdikrik said:
There has to be, at least, a dev developed tool that will convert 1 notes rom to another. That way a dev can create a rom, then easily spread it to all devices.
I can't imagine making a script or modifying a kitchen to output for the slight differences between phone would be that difficult.
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Yeap, Its called AOSP
Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.
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Yeap, Its called AOSP
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Not really helpful, or what we are talking about here...
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shiftr182 said:
Im posting here because Im getting my GN2 monday. Here is a nice little guide on porting roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990589. This was used to port roms from the gsm variants of the s3 to the sprint version. It should be the same process for the notes.
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This on the other hand... looks promising. If only I wasnt going out of town this weekend...
Here is another one from Chairface, he ported MIU from the verizon GNex to Sprint S3 with CM10 using this http://pastebin.com/Nrhciwyf
I have actually done this method before and it works. It just takes time to work out all the kinks.
ix3u said:
How about you give it a shot then?
And also, how about posting the same stupid idea in all of the n2 sections. Checked Verizon and tmobile and it's in both of them too
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You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Should he lie and say your idea is good? would that make you feel better? It won't work. The partitions between the Note variants are different. It not the same as the S3's. Just because you don't understand that doesn't make him an asshole. Also if you are going to curse people out, have the balls to actually spell it correctly
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
You know, I'm not even a Sprint subscriber. I don't own the Sprint GN2. I have absolutely nothing to gain by sharing an idea with all of you. If you think it's a stupid idea, fine, but there's no reason to be an @$$hole about it either.
Now this could turn out one of two ways. Either you're right, and it was a stupid idea, for not working on CDMA GN2's, but at least we tried and now we know for sure -OR- my idea works, maybe with a little finagling, but still possible, and now (with some help) I've just opened up the door for domestic users to take advantage of the development being done around the world; something you've rarely, if ever, been able to do... You're welcome.
So yeah, don't be an @$$hole.
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Ask anyone that has ever flashed a rom from a different carrier how it worked out for them... Only result I have ever heard of is brick. So forgive me for not kissing your ass because of your stupid idea. The people that are capable of porting roms have either already thought of it and it's not that easy, or its out of the realm of possibility at this point. So all your doing is putting useless thoughts into the heads of people who won't know any better and end up effing their phones. So go suck a boner
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geez enough guys. plenty of useful stuff has been pulled from the multiple variants. thinking outside the box is how we get what we have and grow the community and our devices.
it can't (or would be difficult to) do it
no reason to rip each other apart over it.
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This is posible but is not like flashing att rom and putting sprint modem. You got to configure the rom to make it cdma, I remember back in the htc evo days they made t mobile my touch compatible and others htc European with sense 2.1 compatible, only issue was no 4G
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Hello,
I going to be getting a T889V (Canada), and flash a touchwiz based rom from T-Mobile section (long story short, I want bluetooth apt-x, which custom roms don't have)
Now, there are many different forums for the GNote2 and they all have "Mods/Apps/Themes" subforums.
Depending on the changes in hardware, there must be mods that work for some models that don't work for others?
Is there an easy way to see the list of all mods that would work with the T889/V or is it just a game of testing stuff out?
I'm not thinking of any mod in specific but I see mods that are not in all the subforums, so I assume they aren't all compatible.
Thanks,
Sam
I assume only T889 mods can be flashed on T889V with a risk of bricking the phone(losing imei/bootloop) - a lot of cases appeared in this forum. There is no mod built specifically for T889V as far as I know. So my conclusion is do not do anything on your T889V.
Correct me please if I'm wrong
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I assume only T889 mods can be flashed on T889V with a risk of bricking the phone(losing imei/bootloop) - a lot of cases appeared in this forum. There is no mod built specifically for T889V as far as I know. So my conclusion is do not do anything on your T889V.
Correct me please if I'm wrong
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Thanks for your reply pigjr, that is slightly worrying. I would have thought ROMs would work, assuming I used the right radio, and that Mods affecting apk's (changing frameworks and stuff) would not be hardware exclusive.