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Stil restart problems I give up

As from today I have my arc for sale, its the first time since Ive been around here I only had a phone for less than 3 months...
No matter how many times I flashed my arc it keeps restarting every now and than which means I am not available till I notice it. As I really use my phone for business purposes as well I can't afford missing calls from customers.
I really love the design, brought my phone back twice for repair, and still having this annoying problem.
I want to thank everyone for their help and nice talks and maybe we meet each other in another section once.
For now I don't know which phone to choose, so I will go shopping this weekend.
Cheers for now,
Arnold
sent from arc, optimus 2x or iPad2

To bad the Arc didn't work out for you, i can imagine your frustration.
We have 2 arc's around the house, and indeed, sometimes both rebooted for no reason at all (like just lying on my desk), but since i put the new firmware on them it realy doesn't happen anymore.
The only (rarely) reboots that stay are the ones when stressing the CPU.
Both devices are on firmware 3.0.1.A.0.145, rooted but bootloader still locked.
Hope you find a device that suits your needs better, but i beg to differ you'll find one with a more sexier design

My did the same until I updated it what gingerbread are you guys running?
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It's very sad but I can understand you very well. I have an original sealed SGSII here and complaining with myself if I shall open and use it or if i send it back.
My Arc is annoying my quite a lot in the last time because it reality permanently loses the WLAN connection. The connection is totally lost or the Arc shows a connection but giving the "... no network... " error
I've done all troubleshooting that I could find but nothing helps. May sound stupid but it seems that the connection is lost more often the longer the Arc is running with one FW version.

Poker gypsy said:
My did the same until I updated it what gingerbread are you guys running?
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stock 2.3.3

bmwbasti said:
It's very sad but I can understand you very well. I have an original sealed SGSII here and complaining with myself if I shall open and use it or if i send it back.
My Arc is annoying my quite a lot in the last time because it reality permanently loses the WLAN connection. The connection is totally lost or the Arc shows a connection but giving the "... no network... " error
I've done all troubleshooting that I could find but nothing helps. May sound stupid but it seems that the connection is lost more often the longer the Arc is running with one FW version.
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Open the sgs2 burn the arc lol
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Poker gypsy said:
Open the sgs2 burn the arc lol
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Have you honestly got nothing better to do with your life than make useless posts like that?
@Pollpixx: have you not considered getting the handset repaired or replaced under warranty?

Yeah I agree with Step666 .. I think instead of repairing see if you get a replacement. Xperia Arc is worth fighting for

Like i said, it was out for repair twice and will not be replaced for free...well I also have my LG optimus 2x which works fine and yesterday I bought an iphone 4 because I have an ipad2 for my birthday and I love the way the graphics and gameplay are on those devices. Real Racing 2 HD on Ipad2 for example is incredible real... but I agree, it is hardly customazible, so i use it for those games and bussiness only...
My Arc is for sale now, just had a bad monday morning item maybe, but I can't afford having my phone turned off daily, that will cost me turnover for my work in the end.
Enjoy your Arc's, I don't have a "burn the device" feeling like some other people, it was just a faulty product I get my hands on and now I don't trust it anymore.
Nevertheless, thanks very much for the advice!
Cheers,
Arnold

That's a pity Pollpixx. I'm sure the other forums would love to have you.
But how about turning it in for repairs and just keep it as a spare phone? I feel it'd be a shame to just sell it.

PollPixx said:
Like i said, it was out for repair twice and will not be replaced for free...
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Why not?
You're in the EU, you must be covered by some sort of consumer protection laws?
My concern if I were in your situation is that I wouldn't feel comfortable selling a faulty item.
Not that I'm suggesting you'll dupe whoever buys it or anything like that, it'd just bother me is all.
As for the iPhone4, can't blame you for getting one - they're nice handsets. Not my cup of tea personally due to how locked-down they are but really nice pieces of kit nonetheless.
The iPad however - boo!

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Have you honestly got nothing better to do with your life than make useless posts like that?
@Pollpixx: have you not considered getting the handset repaired or replaced under warranty?
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Not useless its the truth, if you have problems with something and no one can fix it? They should send it to you because you have to do something better with your life!
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[Q] Should I get this phone? Spec/experience

First off, I am sorry for posting another one of these but I really could use some help in this.
I am/have been eligible for and upgrade for a long time. My carrier is Verizon and my current phone is the droid x. I was one of the first people to post in this form that I was getting my hands on this phone when it was released. Well due to a fluke on my upgrade date I was forced to wait. After time passed it seamed in my eyes that this phone wouldn't be much of an upgrade from my current phone so I halted on getting it. I am now itching at getting a new phone but don't want to blow my life savings. I have been really looking at getting the HTC rezound but with that tremendous price tag you can see why I have hesitated. My biggest concern is like I stated above, if Im getting a phone I want to UPGRADE not swap to a new yet similar phone. Smart phones have become laptops, if you don't buy above the curve your going to end with a sluggish piece of crap in the long run.
The things I really like about the rezound is the 1.5GHz dual core processor and the 4G. But now looking around I realized that even though the xperia play is a 1GHz single core it also has a GPU to boost its spec's. The BIGGEST perk to the xperia play for me is the controller. I love to game when nothings going on. I especially love gaming on emulators so I can play those classics like Pokeymon fire red . I recently have pulled out the old unused PSP Go and started Pokeymoning it up.
The main reason my attention has been brought back to the play is because of the LTE rumor. But Im still just hesitant so I thought some stories or opinions could help me decide. One thing I would like to add is I LOVE to mess with my electronics. Anything I can customize or change I will. Things like rooting and rom swapping I do all the time. So S-off or some kind of work around is a necessity. The rezound doesn't have S-off but it will and I know the r800x can now change roms but not kernels.
So here are my questions.
Is there any kind of group working to get S-off for one the 800x? I wasn't able to find anything when I did my digging around.
Would you consider the Xperia Play to be a good phone to UPGRADE to?
What are your experiences with the phone, like how does the screen look, battery life?
Should I wait to hear more on the Xperia Play LTE, or am I just going to hear nothing but rumors for another year like with the regular Xperia play's release date?
Anything will help good or bad, thanks!

You can unlockck the bootloader via a couple of members on xda. Its not free, I got mine unlocked (bootloader) before the service was a paid fee. I love emulators and have many on my phone. Nes, snes Genesis n64 neogeo cps1 cps2. This phone is awesome for emulators. If you love emus this is the phone. Rooting and unlocking is really easy. Trust me this phone may not boast top of the line specs, but I don't care. I love this phone.
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Wow that was fast . Thanks man for the input.
If I did get the phone I would get the bootloader unlocked. I was REALLY angry to see that you had to pay to get the bootloader unlocked for the r800x. I then stopped and thought we have received a crap tone of stuff from the devs for free and some of that stuff took months to make. I don't mind coughing up a bit to get an unlocked bootloader. But I would hope the recipient of my money would release something else for free that would make paying for the unlock that much better. But hay to each there own.
Has anyone here gone through the pay process? It almost looked like the process was on hold when I checked into it.
One other thing, does the Xperia play have some sort of HDMI out? I looked really quick and it doesn't look like it but thought I would triple check.
Edit: One more thing. Has anyone taped into the built in PSX emulator? That was one of the coolest things I loved about all the PSP's, once CFW was installed !

BrownEye02 said:
Wow that was fast . Thanks man for the input.
If I did get the phone I would get the bootloader unlocked. I was REALLY angry to see that you had to pay to get the bootloader unlocked for the r800x. I then stopped and thought we have received a crap tone of stuff from the devs for free and some of that stuff took months to make. I don't mind coughing up a bit to get an unlocked bootloader. But I would hope the recipient of my money would release something else for free that would make paying for the unlock that much better. But hay to each there own.
Has anyone here gone through the pay process? It almost looked like the process was on hold when I checked into it.
One other thing, does the Xperia play have some sort of HDMI out? I looked really quick and it doesn't look like it but thought I would triple check.
Edit: One more thing. Has anyone taped into the built in PSX emulator? That was one of the coolest things I loved about all the PSP's, once CFW was installed !
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The unlocked R800i models (Sim free) can get their boot loader unlocked from the official Sony ericsson bootloader website, and thats free, but the people who do the paid bootloader unlock either have R800x models or another model locked to a specific carrier, Either way they only make you pay because they need to buy credits or something for the program they use to unlock it... I don't know much about that process because I can unlock mine via the se official method.

I forgot one more thing. A couple weeks ago the sources for the R800x were released. This will definately give the devs a lot more to work with and make mods for this phone a lot easier as the information is out. Also don't quote me I think the bootloader unlock price is 25 dollars. Also for me the best emulator is the Tiger Arcade. Its not on the android market but it plays all the neogeo cps1 cps2 games flawlessly. And it even has network play so if you have a friend and they have the same apparently and game then you can play together. Had a friend over and we played Dungeons & Dragons Towers of Doom as a team. Man it was fun.
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I advise you to wait for Xperia Play 2
It is gonna be out this year and might beat PSP Vita

TheCraig said:
The unlocked R800i models (Sim free) can get their boot loader unlocked from the official Sony ericsson bootloader website, and thats free, but the people who do the paid bootloader unlock either have R800x models or another model locked to a specific carrier, Either way they only make you pay because they need to buy credits or something for the program they use to unlock it... I don't know much about that process because I can unlock mine via the se official method.
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I would love to get my hands on one of the unlocked models but like I stated above my carrier is Verizon and the R800I's wont work with them.
jgregoryj1 said:
I forgot one more thing. A couple weeks ago the sources for the R800x were released. This will definately give the devs a lot more to work with and make mods for this phone a lot easier as the information is out. Also don't quote me I think the bootloader unlock price is 25 dollars. Also for me the best emulator is the Tiger Arcade. Its not on the android market but it plays all the neogeo cps1 cps2 games flawlessly. And it even has network play so if you have a friend and they have the same apparently and game then you can play together. Had a friend over and we played Dungeons & Dragons Towers of Doom as a team. Man it was fun.
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Mmmmmmmm interesting... When ever the source is released REALLY cool things start popping up.
Xperia-Play said:
I advise you to wait for Xperia Play 2
It is gonna be out this year and might beat PSP Vita
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Are you talking date or spec. I highly doubt spec. But like I said Im just scared Im gonna end up waiting another year like I did for this play and its rumors.

Xperia-Play said:
I advise you to wait for Xperia Play 2
It is gonna be out this year and might beat PSP Vita
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unless you can back this up with a source then its complete bollocks there has been no information regarding the an xperia play 2 to the best of my knowledge
infact SE said it sold badly so there less likely too really

The biggest reason I believe there is a bit of truth to this is because when the phone was getting approved by the fda or what ever its called. There was xperia play with 4g lte that was submitted for review. Otherwise im with Sniper in that all we have to go off is a crappy picture of a training form.
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BrownEye02 said:
The biggest reason I believe there is a bit of truth to this is because when the phone was getting approved by the fda or what ever its called. There was xperia play with 4g lte that was submitted for review. Otherwise im with Sniper in that all we have to go off is a crappy picture of a training form.
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The 4G version of the xplay have been out for some time, i think the R800a and the R800at have 4G variations.
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This phone now has Onlive app working with gamepad and that opens a whole new source for gaming
I have tried it and it felt good. I would recommend it as the price at which its going now is really worth for what the device is capable of

How does the display look? My friend has the T-Mobile myTouch 4G and I just love his screen. The colors are amazing. It makes my X's screen look like an old black and white TV.
AndroHero said:
The 4G version of the xplay have been out for some time, i think the R800a and the R800at have 4G variations.
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Yeah but those wont work on Verizons CDMA network. A new rumored Xperia Play might be coming out soon that will work and be sold by Verizon.

Xperia Play 2 Announcement Next Week?

Could it be??
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/62942-sony-plans-mobile-announcement-next-wednesday
"find out what's new and next with Xperia gaming", The event invite show's the Xperia Play pictured... MLG are going to be in attendance...
I think we could be looking at a quad-core Xperia Play 2

Same idea, different thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617181

Don't hope to much, I know at least I won't, and I already got the 1st PLAY-phone for a time, and I already got my physical gamepad, I think the 2nd, if it is, will make us more satisfied since they already lie in all possible ways, it had been a natural step for me if Ericsson had got some of the money, but I don't even consider buying it now as they got me to buy a PS3 with features that they removed later on to get it less hacker-feiendly and they was on GeoHot and attacked the hackercommunity in a big scale, never Sony again, in their shadow of their releases they just lie about everything to get buyers, but I won't buy a 2nd gaming-phone from them if it isn't just to get NFC-Technology if my phone also become my wallet in the future, and I won't buy the PS4, that's one thing I can say already w/o nothing what they have to deliver, more than some specs that could be about some AMD-parts, but then I already got a real computer with wireless PS3-gamepad.
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razerblader said:
Don't hope to much, I know at least I won't, and I already got the 1st PLAY-phone for a time, and I already got my physical gamepad, I think the 2nd, if it is, will make us more satisfied since they already lie in all possible ways, it had been a natural step for me if Ericsson had got some of the money, but I don't even consider buying it now as they got me to buy a PS3 with features that they removed later on to get it less hacker-feiendly and they was on GeoHot and attacked the hackercommunity in a big scale, never Sony again, in their shadow of their releases they just lie about everything to get buyers, but I won't buy a 2nd gaming-phone from them if it isn't just to get NFC-Technology if my phone also become my wallet in the future, and I won't buy the PS4, that's one thing I can say already w/o nothing what they have to deliver, more than some specs that could be about some AMD-parts, but then I already got a real computer with wireless PS3-gamepad.
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Well... Won't be surprised (Will be pissed off) if the unlock bootloader becomes a paid service lol.

TheCraig said:
Well... Won't be surprised (Will be pissed off) if the unlock bootloader becomes a paid service lol.
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Believe me, I won't get surprised if they start to take money for it in the future to get even more money

[Q] XPLAY Broke Should I get a New One?

So My XPlay Just Broke and I liked it quite a bit But HATED ITS Crap Specs (which were tolerable due to custom kernels and whatnot)... Now i can get a new phone my budget for a new phone is around £180 and a new play is £149.99 sim unlocked and i am considering it but should i get it over a faster dual core phone like the htc one x which i can get for £180,what do you guys recommend?i mostly use my phone for texting, music,internet,some gaming,and a lot of customizing , flashing roms etc.Any suggestions for a different phone? Try and keep it unbiased let me know thanks.

As to whether or not you should buy another xplay, you're really the only one who can answer that question. For me, if I could only have one phone, it certainly wouldn't be the play. It's just too old, and missing way too many features.
There's going to be others posting in this thread that will evangelize the play, and tell you that it's the best phone ever. I would shop around for a modern used phone if I were you. Something that has a dual or quad core cpu, factory jelly bean, 1 or 2 gigabytes of ram, and a hd screen is an awesome thing to behold.
Good luck with you decision dude!

When it comes to Gaming, nothing is better than having what the Xperia Play has in terms of controls. But you are right in saying it is outdated.
As your budget is somewhat low, I would buy a new Play. Simply because the performance increase wouldn't be worth the lack of the Xperia Play controls.
If however, you can save up an extra £60 - I highly recommend you getting the Nexus 4 from google. https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=microsite&hl=en
Its specification is out of this world for its price. And with modding custom ROMs/Kernels it is easily the best performer out there to date. I had the luxury of using one for about a month and got it to score an amazing 23500 on Antutu. Unfortunately it wasn't mine though and I was only rooting it/unlocking it for someone.

Thanks for the replies. Well I've made my mind up to get a HTC one x which I can get for £180 but ill keep my play around as only its screen is broken and I could repair it myself.Plays a good device and has a great development community and all but it just isn't my type of Phone.
I'm Going to keep watching this thread for more opinions and also like "Visa Declined" said there's going to be a lot of fan boys defending the play like crazy which I find kind of funny

kirat046 said:
Thanks for the replies. Well I've made my mind up to get a HTC one x which I can get for £180 but ill keep my play around as only its screen is broken and I could repair it myself.Plays a good device and has a great development community and all but it just isn't my type of Phone.
I'm Going to keep watching this thread for more opinions and also like "Visa Declined" said there's going to be a lot of fan boys defending the play like crazy which I find kind of funny
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I have a xplay and the only reason I can tolerate it is because of all the great devs. But I would replace it with a newer phone if I could. I do like the game pads but I don't game enough for them to really matter. I would go with the HTC one x or nexus 4 like someone else recommended.
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kirat046 said:
Well I've made my mind up to get a HTC one x which I can get for £180
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I am in a similar position to you. Where is the HTC One X available at this price?

ald0 said:
I am in a similar position to you. Where is the HTC One X available at this price?
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im getting it from a friend not to sure about the official price though

for gaming is important to me. as long i have 4g, a fairly quick phone, and tethering option for my laptop and i my phone can still do most of the apps that i want avail, i'm good with my play.
a new play would be cool. my wife has a samsung s3 and while it looks great and all, having no playstation controls sucks. get a new play if gaming is your thing.

kirat046 said:
im getting it from a friend not to sure about the official price though
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I thought that must be the case, it is a good price for that phone!

buy a phone with better specs and then buy one of those attachable gamepads.

Are you willing to take a Second-Hand-Phone? Cause an Xperia T is usually only around the £150 mark or £180 if you get a Grade A

kirat046 said:
Thanks for the replies. Well I've made my mind up to get a HTC one x which I can get for £180 but ill keep my play around as only its screen is broken and I could repair it myself.Plays a good device and has a great development community and all but it just isn't my type of Phone.
I'm Going to keep watching this thread for more opinions and also like "Visa Declined" said there's going to be a lot of fan boys defending the play like crazy which I find kind of funny
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Yea I suggest you upgrade and keep the play for moding. Who knows you might become a awesome dev with the spare play
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I wouldn't get another xplay.
The one x is a good phone, I would suggest that or a galaxy s3.
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base on your budget may be you can get galaxy note lte

Odp: [Q] XPLAY Broke Should I get a New One?
Visa Declined said:
As to whether or not you should buy another xplay, you're really the only one who can answer that question. For me, if I could only have one phone, it certainly wouldn't be the play. It's just too old, and missing way too many features.
There's going to be others posting in this thread that will evangelize the play, and tell you that it's the best phone ever. I would shop around for a modern used phone if I were you. Something that has a dual or quad core cpu, factory jelly bean, 1 or 2 gigabytes of ram, and a hd screen is an awesome thing to behold.
Good luck with you decision dude!
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I partially agree with you, but just partially. That's correct that only he can answer himself. You are in xperia play board in which 90% people bought this phone for gaming. There's no other phone in which gaming is so nice in terms of controls and that's why our play is evangelised (controls). There is no game which our play can't run, so people (like me) don't want another phone.
Although the OP should ask himself, am I going to play a lot on my phone or just from time to time?
If you are going to play a lot - get yourself another xperia play.
If you are not going to play this much but only from time to time - get yourself one X, if you are able to get xperia z for this price I'd get xperia z.
Main reason that I haven't abandoned my phone is XDA. I'd get angry of how slow it is our that I can't get JB. But I'm not since this is not happening
Choice is yours, just ask yourself these two questions above, and you have made your decision.
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buy a phone with better specs and then buy one of those attachable gamepads.
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It was been already discussed. There is almost no game which supports it, play - over 300. Try to put one of them in your pocket no-go. Also you'll talk about apps which are making these external gamepads usable, it's as usable as PSP android emulator.
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Going to get a Xperia Play - Some questions.

Hey guys, I know I'm jumping on the Xperia Play bandwagon a bit late (2 years late), but my phone just broke down and it looks like I can get a Xperia Play for relatively cheap now for around $100 - 200 unlocked. But I have some questions -
1 - I'm planning on using it with the T-Mobile pay-as-you-go $30 100 min - unlim text - unlim 4g, and will it work? I know that with the r800i the phone and text will work, but 4g will not. I've also heard that you can make 4g work with the r800at, but I'm not sure. This is my main question.
2 - Are there any roms for 4.0 + and how well do they work with the with the controller. One main reason I'm getting this old phone is because of the controller, and if the controller doesn't work I'm fine with settling on gingerbread.
3 - How is the touch screen? I know this might seem like a dumb question but I've used the Motorola Triumph from virgin and OH GOD was it a horrible touch screen. It was just all gritty and weird. So what can I expect?
I am sorry if any of my questions are redundant, I did search the boards first. Thank you for your help.

fishvtt said:
Hey guys, I know I'm jumping on the Xperia Play bandwagon a bit late (2 years late), but my phone just broke down and it looks like I can get a Xperia Play for relatively cheap now for around $100 - 200 unlocked. But I have some questions -
1 - I'm planning on using it with the T-Mobile pay-as-you-go $30 100 min - unlim text - unlim 4g, and will it work? I know that with the r800i the phone and text will work, but 4g will not. I've also heard that you can make 4g work with the r800at, but I'm not sure. This is my main question.
2 - Are there any roms for 4.0 + and how well do they work with the with the controller. One main reason I'm getting this old phone is because of the controller, and if the controller doesn't work I'm fine with settling on gingerbread.
3 - How is the touch screen? I know this might seem like a dumb question but I've used the Motorola Triumph from virgin and OH GOD was it a horrible touch screen. It was just all gritty and weird. So what can I expect?
I am sorry if any of my questions are redundant, I did search the boards first. Thank you for your help.
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Welcome to the Xperia Play board first of all, I am re-getting the Xperia Play myself after using a Galaxy S2 International myself for six months but I decided to go back to Xperia Play. I'll answer each question one by one and with great detail as I did research long time ago.
1. I am using T-Mobile's $30 5GB 100 minute Unlimited text plan for web activation or Wal-Mart only. I did mines on the web with ease. The difference from the r800i and the r800at is the color shell, software, OS skin and the available radios. I have never got the r800i myself to try the 4G radio before the 1900MHz band was availible this year, if someone else has a r800i then that would be good to have a choice, I honestly do not know about r800i phones. The r800at and r800a both work for T-Mobile's 4G with the 1900MHz band. The difference from the r800at and the r800a model is the bootloaded lock status, the AT is bootloader locked and the A is bootloader unlocked, either phone you get you still need to have SIM unlocked to use the T-Mobile's SIM card and service.
2. The Xperia Play has ICS and JB roms available for download, however installing ICS/JB you will lose some compatibilties in games and a couple of hardware bugs like touchpad not working and camera in some roms. I never used a 4.0+ rom myself as I stayed in GB for gaming and stability.
3. I personally owned and moved from Virgin Mobile AND the Motorola Triumph, I used to have the phone with a low $25 a month and I used customs roms that addresses the hardware issues. The touchscreen in the Xperia Play is better in response and the resolution of 245 ppi and 480x852 is sharp from the Triumph or my Galaxy S2. The height of the screen is the same size to the Triumph, width is less but moving from the Triumph to the Xperia Play is awesome that you do not mind the tiny reduction in width. I never want to go back to candybar phones until the next Xperia Play device comes and I will be a Xperia Playa, this is what you expect once you hold this device in your hands! :good::laugh:

MRCMidnight said:
Welcome to the Xperia Play board first of all, I am re-getting the Xperia Play myself after using a Galaxy S2 International myself for six months but I decided to go back to Xperia Play. I'll answer each question one by one and with great detail as I did research long time ago.
1. I am using T-Mobile's $30 5GB 100 minute Unlimited text plan for web activation or Wal-Mart only. I did mines on the web with ease. The difference from the r800i and the r800at is the color shell, software, OS skin and the available radios. I have never got the r800i myself to try the 4G radio before the 1900MHz band was availible this year, if someone else has a r800i then that would be good to have a choice, I honestly do not know about r800i phones. The r800at and r800a both work for T-Mobile's 4G with the 1900MHz band. The difference from the r800at and the r800a model is the bootloaded lock status, the AT is bootloader locked and the A is bootloader unlocked, either phone you get you still need to have SIM unlocked to use the T-Mobile's SIM card and service.
2. The Xperia Play has ICS and JB roms available for download, however installing ICS/JB you will lose some compatibilties in games and a couple of hardware bugs like touchpad not working and camera in some roms. I never used a 4.0+ rom myself as I stayed in GB for gaming and stability.
3. I personally owned and moved from Virgin Mobile AND the Motorola Triumph, I used to have the phone with a low $25 a month and I used customs roms that addresses the hardware issues. The touchscreen in the Xperia Play is better in response and the resolution of 245 ppi and 480x852 is sharp from the Triumph or my Galaxy S2. The height of the screen is the same size to the Triumph, width is less but moving from the Triumph to the Xperia Play is awesome that you do not mind the tiny reduction in width. I never want to go back to candybar phones until the next Xperia Play device comes and I will be a Xperia Playa, this is what you expect once you hold this device in your hands! :good::laugh:
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Thanks a lot for the reply! That was very informative.
Which phone do you have, R800a or at? I know it doesn't matter, but I'd rather have the confidence that someone else has gotten it working on the specific phone.
And alright, that sounds good. I'll use the GB roms then. Hopefully my transition from Jellybean down isn't too much of a problem.
Wow, it looks like there is a ton of people like me. I had the Virgin Mobile 25 dollar plan before switching to T-Mobile too, and I actually have the 5gb plan right now.
Thanks a lot for your help again! Hopefully I'll turn into a Xperia playa too.

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Thanks a lot for the reply! That was very informative.
Which phone do you have, R800a or at? I know it doesn't matter, but I'd rather have the confidence that someone else has gotten it working on the specific phone.
And alright, that sounds good. I'll use the GB roms then. Hopefully my transition from Jellybean down isn't too much of a problem.
Wow, it looks like there is a ton of people like me. I had the Virgin Mobile 25 dollar plan before switching to T-Mobile too, and I actually have the 5gb plan right now.
Thanks a lot for your help again! Hopefully I'll turn into a Xperia playa too.
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I had the r800a the first time, that got stolen, then the r8000at the second time which broken. The next Xperia Play phone is going to be a r800at because to me has a better OEM feel and it was made for the US market and if you get the AT&T box in either new or like new condition, you get extra accessories like the dock (if sealed). JellyBean is a cool feel on my Galalxy S2 but I will not miss it as much as I plan to flash Gin2JB v2.3+ rom in the future, my Xperia phone is coming later this month as I still am in the game, lol.
T-Mobile's 5GB 4G is better than Virgin Mobile's 2.5GB 3G data, especially here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Your location varies in signal strength. I promise you, if you like retro games and like to play games on a gamepad, you will never come back to candybar phones. Here is one more important thing you must know, be gentle when you slide the screen up and down, the flex cable is the weakest link and can kill the phone from screen and device and never place paper or fragments in between (that is how my second phone failed.)
You are welcome fishvtt, I am more confident on a r800at like I said because of the parts but also for the fluidity of the feel and performance of the networks and functions, might be placebo but I honesty like the r800at more, either one is fine, each one is the same to support anything from roms, kernels and firmware, it is all GSM compatible and universal when used with custom recovery.

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I had the r800a the first time, that got stolen, then the r8000at the second time which broken. The next Xperia Play phone is going to be a r800at because to me has a better OEM feel and it was made for the US market and if you get the AT&T box in either new or like new condition, you get extra accessories like the dock (if sealed). JellyBean is a cool feel on my Galalxy S2 but I will not miss it as much as I plan to flash Gin2JB v2.3+ rom in the future, my Xperia phone is coming later this month as I still am in the game, lol.
T-Mobile's 5GB 4G is better than Virgin Mobile's 2.5GB 3G data, especially here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Your location varies in signal strength. I promise you, if you like retro games and like to play games on a gamepad, you will never come back to candybar phones. Here is one more important thing you must know, be gentle when you slide the screen up and down, the flex cable is the weakest link and can kill the phone from screen and device and never place paper or fragments in between (that is how my second phone failed.)
You are welcome fishvtt, I am more confident on a r800at like I said because of the parts but also for the fluidity of the feel and performance of the networks and functions, might be placebo but I honesty like the r800at more, either one is fine, each one is the same to support anything from roms, kernels and firmware, it is all GSM compatible and universal when used with custom recovery.
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Thanks a lot for the help. And I'll keep that tip in mind. (To take care of the flex cables).
I'm probably gonna be scourging around ebay for the next couple of days and I'll keep it in mind to look for the AT version.
Already getting hyped up, can't wait to relive the nostalgia of having a gameboy

fishvtt said:
Thanks a lot for the help. And I'll keep that tip in mind. (To take care of the flex cables).
I'm probably gonna be scourging around ebay for the next couple of days and I'll keep it in mind to look for the AT version.
Already getting hyped up, can't wait to relive the nostalgia of having a gameboy
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Awesome, well I have a merchant on Amazon who will send me a like-new Xperia Play, in the description it it said it was unlocked and tested with a 30 day money back warranty. I will let you know once it arrives on Monday or Saturday if I am lucky. I got it at 119.95 with FREE shipping: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=me%3DA1KSB2QN4L6U9U&field-keywords=xperia+play. Best to wait and give you the green light when I receive it from said merchant.

Wow that price is amazing.
Well sounds good!
Be sure to keep me updated!

fishvtt said:
Wow that price is amazing.
Well sounds good!
Be sure to keep me updated!
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Will do, I am also waiting on some accessories which I will review in the future as I do not see them on YouTube or other sites. Which ever comes I will post it in their respective places/topics.

Just an update. I got the Like New Xperia Play r800at in the mail today. The phone is a r800at with the phone, battery, and standard charger (AC to micro USB). When I inserted the T-Mobile SIM card it is unlocked, however I cannot enter fastboot mode and I have to pay alejandrissimo to get my phone fully unlocked. 360 Mobile Solutions, the seller who sold me the phone for $119.95, sold me a great looking phone, no damage at a quick other than the area around the USB port, it's okay with me; also the screen still has the factory sticker "TXTING & DRIVNG ... IT CAN WAIT" on the phone, which is excellent. I say buy from them, save yourself some money for a nice case and other goodies. :good:

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Just an update. I got the Like New Xperia Play r800at in the mail today. The phone is a r800at with the phone, battery, and standard charger (AC to micro USB). When I inserted the T-Mobile SIM card it is unlocked, however I cannot enter fastboot mode and I have to pay alejandrissimo to get my phone fully unlocked. 360 Mobile Solutions, the seller who sold me the phone for $119.95, sold me a great looking phone, no damage at a quick other than the area around the USB port, it's okay with me; also the screen still has the factory sticker "TXTING & DRIVNG ... IT CAN WAIT" on the phone, which is excellent. I say buy from them, save yourself some money for a nice case and other goodies. :good:
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Sweet! Was waiting for the response. That's good to hear. And just to make sure, the 4g HSPA+ does work right?
I'll be ordering from them then. Thanks a lot for the response man. You've been a great help!

fishvtt said:
Sweet! Was waiting for the response. That's good to hear. And just to make sure, the 4g HSPA+ does work right?
I'll be ordering from them then. Thanks a lot for the response man. You've been a great help!
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Yes, this phone does work for 4G HPSA+ on T-Mobile. Thank you for the sticking around, let me know if you want to hear more about the phone and it's features. :good:

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Yes, this phone does work for 4G HPSA+ on T-Mobile. Thank you for the sticking around, let me know if you want to hear more about the phone and it's features. :good:
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Awesome man! Thanks a lot. Don't have any questions right now, but If any do come up in the future, I'll be sure to ask you.