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Hi, i have been an HD2 user for two years now... replaced it twice and all with hardware isues. And have been constantly flashing new Roms... but now, again, my HD2 is giving up on me (hardware wise). And I am due for another upgrade with Tmo anyways. So here is my question...
I have heard a lot of awesome things about the GS2, and specifically liked the new white one. And the Specs are NICE... so I almost decided on getting it. BUT, i found out about the new HTC One S coming out this Spring...
Now, I have looked at both specs, pros and cons... and still undecided on whether to wait for the One S or just get me the GS2... I've notice the following Pros and Cons:
Only one Pros (which is pretty big for me)
GS2 - SD Card = YES : One S - SD Card = none
and three Pros for One S (i'm not sure if this will make it or break it for me)
GS2 - htc sense 4.0 = NONE : One S - Yes
GS2 - Android Ginger Bread = waiting for upgrade : One S - Installed
GS2 - Beats Audio = NONE : One S = Installed
and I've noticed everything else is pretty much the same....
If anyone has any input... THAT WILL BE AWESOME! and will help tremendously in my decision.
As of now, my current phone, HD2 is on and off.... its the "touch screen" problem. I can maybe only use my phone properly 40% of the time... and I need a phone asap....
Thanks again everyone!
I've never seen that new HTC, but I replaced my beloved, but broken, HD2 with the GS2 and other than being no match for the insanely bright HD2 LEDs as a flashlight, I like the GS2 better in every way. Simply a case of newer, better spec hardware. Bigger, better screen, dual-core, better camera, USB hosting, HDMI, etc. The GS2 is only slightly larger in width and height, but is a fair amount thinner and lighter. I'm also getting much better battery life. Although I liked Sense just fine, I don't miss it at all. Personally, I would never buy a phone without an SD slot.
You want the SGII cause there are no cons. I can't stand sense or at first touch wiz. Now I can tolerate touch wiz more now. This thing flies 2x faster than your hd2 and has great battery life plus the HTC phone might come out in April maybe longer. If u wait that long might as well get the SGIII unlocked.
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Thank you guys...
no doubt, I am replacing my old broken and overly used HD2... (we had good times...) and just deciding on whether to get the new HTC ONE S or the SG2... and also, from experience, most of the newly released products comes with bugs that they have to fix over time or until the release a newer model of the same kind. so that kinda.... throws me off together with the "NO SD CARD" cons....
ok... so far 2-0 in favor of SG2...
and yea... i know waiting for the unsure is not my thing.... Unsure meaning, not knowing how it would come... and unsure when it will actually be out...
please lets not forget HTC locks their toys up real tight...
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Locked bootloaders with HTC unlock sucks hard. SG2 is literally a few clicks through ODIN flash and you're ready to flash ROMs.
Better Battery Life
Hardware accelerated out of the box
Fast, I came from an EVO 3D which has dual cores, but this thing is faster.
Gorgeous Display that will stand against time
By the time the One S comes out, we should have ICS already which means development should be booming again.
I'M SOLD!
ok... now.... I think I'm decided...
Thanks for the input on Flashing because I do intend to play with my phone like I did my HD2... well.. if i feel like it or get bored. lol
uhmmm.... how about the AMAZE? any input on this phone?
you guys are awesome! thanks a bunch!
Shalomology said:
ok... now.... I think I'm decided...
Thanks for the input on Flashing because I do intend to play with my phone like I did my HD2... well.. if i feel like it or get bored. lol
uhmmm.... how about the AMAZE? any input on this phone?
you guys are awesome! thanks a bunch!
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You have the 14 day trial to try them both.
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It's just not the same with the amaze. Go to the store and play with them both. But it's better over here.
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The slightly,, and I mean slightly better camera on the amaze is not worth it. GS2 flowed better for me. Screen is a little bigger than the Amaze. Other specs similar but played with both and even all the Tmo Reps said to get the GS2. PLus its a Samsung, like it was mentioned,, doesnt take a master planning session to root.
I had a HD2, i applaud you for keeping it that long. Mine lasted for 8months and annoyed me so bad I went to a BlackBerry before going to a HTC G2 then to the GS2. Best decision i've made in 2012.
Go with the GS2. You won't regret it, this is simply the best phone I've personally ever owned(been through quite a few phones through out this past year trying to find one I liked the most without problems). It doesn't even have to think, it just does.
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For months I've been trying to upgrade. (At&t straight talk etc.) I was going to buy an old my touch 4g slide put it on straight talk but right now its hard to find. So the HTC one v is it worth it (cdma version) would I enjoy it more the I enjoyed my ov? Do you think more roms will be made? Tough decision seeing as I work at lil ceazers not making much lol. So big question is it a good phone?
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I know there's some awesome devs like jmz working in the CDMA side, but until htc releases the source it'll be slow going.
I came to the OneV from an optimus v, and i love this phone way more. Even if you look at just the hardware, it's a big step up (or at least it feels like it).
If you're planning on doing straight talk, that's GSM not CDMA. Only the virgin mobile OneV is CDMA.
Would you say its worth the upgrade then?
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I was waiting for the price to go down, but I bit the bullet based on 3 things:
1. the screen! one look at the fonts and I was in love!
2. ICE CREAM SANDWICH!
3. The development! In a span of 3 months this community/devs have done a wonderful job in showcasing the future of this phone!
I don't want to come off as too negative about this phone, as it is very beautiful and I would probably buy it again. So just be aware that this post is mostly focusing on the negatives.
While single core 1ghz isn't the fastest around, it is fast enough for an android phone. In fact I noticed no significant speed difference to my 1,5ghz dualcore Sensation. And HTC even released a 600mhz phone this year, the desire C. In my experience the utility of more CPU power in android phones maxes out at around 1 ghz. More CPU power and screen real estate just means lower battery life. And the battery life on this thing is pretty much the best you're going to find in the ICS camp. With many of the big-and-fast alternatives, if you're actually using it you're not going to take that many steps away from the charger.
That being said, at the moment I'm slightly pissed off about some aspects of this phone. That's mostly because it feels like a repackaged 2010 phone. It is very pretty with the aluminum unibody and all, compared to this even new high end devices look cheap and plasticy. But you have to like the design, because it's not the most cost-effective hardware. There are a few year-old android phones around with the same hardware, that you can get used for like 100 bucks less, and most of them come with a full list of polished ICS custom roms. With the One V you pay extra for the design and for getting ICS out of the box. And that's not even of much use if you're capable of installing a custom rom.
I bit the bullet because I was running out of other options that fit my preferences. I wanted a three-button setup, and less than 4", and pretty much all alternatives in that camp seem to have some crippling flaw, like crappy battery life or nonexistent GPS capabilities or a really mirrory screen. So far I haven't noticed any flaws on the V, except for the inexplicable button and usb-plug placement, and that the front speaker is really quiet. But most importantly, since it's a new phone, and a non-high-end device, custom rom availability is only just starting to build up. For example there is still no way to get real status bar toggles, which my first smartphone from 2009 with Cyanogen 6 could do.
In the end it comes down to whether you like the design, or whether you care about raw specs more. I'm just not as interested in counting cpu cores, so it's fine for me. Don't get me wrong, it runs perfectly smooth. But it is just 400mhz up from a Legend.
If you like the nose and the aluminum unibody, and prefer a not-too-huge phone, then go for it. But if you are looking for the most price-effective hardware, then buy something used with the same capabilities. You just have to be aware that you pay extra for the fancy design here.
When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
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When I was buying I was between One V and Samsung Galaxy S advance...they were similary priced on my carrier.
I choose One V becouse of this comunity and development going on around ICS at the moment, and "S advance" is stuck on 2.3.6. without much hacks to choose.
I was wrong anyway. ICS look great but it lag on this phone like hell. Anyone buying should realy try it first. I mean my girlfriend's crappy LG optimus L3 is a ferrari compared to this. And it gets worse...HTC specification is a LIE. True specs are 2gb ROM/ 1gb user available, cca 365 mb RAM ?!?
Camera looks more like 3MP. with 5Mp mode you get only bigger sized pictures and vid's but cannot capture more detail...like upscaled 3mp camera.
ONE V specs look like leftovers from desire series with a new outer shell. If I've got 2nd chance to choose a phone I'd rather go for a used Desire series and wait for a price drop on good ICS phones simply becouse desire is snappier and One V is slooow.
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Lol its not ics its sense 4.0 , and plus I don't see any lag anywhere on this other then the settings.
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It's android 4.03 under that sense ui. Find someone who has older android phone 2.3.x,even a bad one, and compare. It's true that you only feel that lag in multitasking and browsing...like pinch to zoom etc...but also scroll between screens is a big delay
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For me cm9, nonsense rom and even suprimo 4.1 made it respond faster but still not even comparable to 2.3.x devices
the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
i guess it all comes from what phone you come from and your budget. i came from a huawei ascend (junk) i love this phone! My wife had a huawei ascend 2 (junk) and i got her on of these and she loves it. I am rooted and running a custom rom, she is rooted and running stock with no bloat. i am sure there are many phones out there that are better than this one, but for our carrier and budget, we can't beat it!
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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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the HTC One V is a HORRIBLE PHONE! You will NOT be able to hear anyone you talk to, mine has been like this since new and all sound lvls are maxed...im forced to use the crappy loud speaker....i will never suggest a HTC phone to anyone since im locked into a 3 year with this crappy phone..
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hell if u think its a crappy phone then u dont deserve to be here.....love what you have!
I just got this phone this week. I see it is rootable or not? What is the latest version that can be rooted?
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There is a thread dedicated to the 4g phone. This is not the inc 4g thread. If you check the forums there, root methods and help should be available.
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Oops, my bad I guess years of being here has me in autopilot.
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Oops, my bad I guess years of being here has me in autopilot.
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How is the Inc 4G by the way? I'm a bit curious to see how the phone is.
ICS and sense 4 super smooth, camera is great I might sell my DSLR , Size is the main reason I went with it there is an 1/8" in width and 1/4" in height over the original Incredible the redesigned case is nicer to hold also. Battery life is great compared to the original Incredible. Sense 4 requires learning a few interface curves but its all good, not so many redundant menus. I am very happy with it so far I just need to root and get ride of the typical bloat.
My understanding is it is root able but they are still trying to get s-off. Didn't read too much on it, the community there is horribly low. I only recognized andybones too.
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ICS and sense 4 super smooth, camera is great I might sell my DSLR , Size is the main reason I went with it there is an 1/8" in width and 1/4" in height over the original Incredible the redesigned case is nicer to hold also. Battery life is great compared to the original Incredible. Sense 4 requires learning a few interface curves but its all good, not so many redundant menus. I am very happy with it so far I just need to root and get ride of the typical bloat.
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so this phone is a nice upgrade over the OG Incredible? only thing i dont like is the screen size. after having my Dinc for a year and a half and seeing all of the new phones with bigger screens it kinda makes me want more.
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so this phone is a nice upgrade over the OG Incredible? only thing i dont like is the screen size. after having my Dinc for a year and a half and seeing all of the new phones with bigger screens it kinda makes me want more.
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I don't. That's why I want the Inc 4G. These newer phones are like phablets and are getting closer and closer to the Note.
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I don't. That's why I want the Inc 4G. These newer phones are like phablets and are getting closer and closer to the Note.
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That's why I didn't jump on the GS3 and am now stuck with buying phones at full retail. The idea of buying a nearly 5 inch phone to me is just stupid.. especially with all these people picking up a Nexus 7.
Tablet's getting smaller.. Phone getting bigger... nearly the same size...
With Edge to Edge glass.. and on screen buttons.. I think 4.3 would be fine (where before those things I would have said 4)
I have started to find somethings that need refinement http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30253227#post30253227
Most of you will probably look at this thread and think it's a waste of space on XDA, but hopefully I'll get through to someone considering upgrading to the RAZR M.
First, I did a lot of research into which phone I should upgrade to... Frankly I was disappointed with Verizon's selection, but I went to a retail store and tried out all the phones, and I thought the RAZR M was the best option for me. I missed the SD card slot, thought the 2000 mAh battery would be great, and liked the camera upgrade from the Nexus' 5MP shooter.
I even went over to XDA's Droid RAZR M page and asked everyone what they thought of their phone, and if there was any reason I shouldn't get it... The only thing anyone could come up with was that the bootloader could only be unlocked on certain firmware, which I made sure to get.
Despite being Super AMOLED Advanced, the display has this look to it that just makes it look bad. The battery is hardly better than the Galaxy Nexus's, especially if that Nexus is packing the 2150mAh extended battery (obviously). It turns out MTP isn't a "lack of SD card slot" thing, it's an Android 4.1 and up thing. Some of you could probably have told me that, but I think many people are unaware of this, and go for phones with SD cards in the hopes of being able to sync with their Mac and Linux computers again.
I was surprised to find that Google Wallet won't happen, probably ever. No one has figured out how to do it.... So if you rely on Wallet at all, this alone should be a deal-breaker for you.
Despite Kevlar and Gorilla Glass, as well as a sturdy-feeling frame, the buttons on the RAZR M feel cheap and noisy, and the vibrate resembles that of an iPhone 3G or the Palm Pixi Plus... "cheap" I suppose would describe that rather well..
The only positive thing I have to say about the RAZR M is that the download speeds are considerably better, even though it almost always has the same number of bars as the Galaxy Nexus. In areas where the GalNex got 30 mbps or so down, the RAZR M got 50-65 mbps down. Although virtually 100% of the time, the RAZR M lost to the Galaxy Nexus with upload speeds by around 4 mbps.
I'll sum all that up by saying I'm proudly sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for the foreseeable future and that my goal here is not to ***** about the RAZR M or my poor decision, but to literally warn anyone here against getting it. I mean, we all have the Galaxy Nexus for certain reasons, mostly to have the latest version of Android almost always, so I figure some of you may be eyeing the RAZR M as well.
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Most of you will probably look at this thread and think it's a waste of space on XDA, but hopefully I'll get through to someone considering upgrading to the RAZR M.
First, I did a lot of research into which phone I should upgrade to... Frankly I was disappointed with Verizon's selection, but I went to a retail store and tried out all the phones, and I thought the RAZR M was the best option for me. I missed the SD card slot, thought the 2000 mAh battery would be great, and liked the camera upgrade from the Nexus' 5MP shooter.
I even went over to XDA's Droid RAZR M page and asked everyone what they thought of their phone, and if there was any reason I shouldn't get it... The only thing anyone could come up with was that the bootloader could only be unlocked on certain firmware, which I made sure to get.
Despite being Super AMOLED Advanced, the display has this look to it that just makes it look bad. The battery is hardly better than the Galaxy Nexus's, especially if that Nexus is packing the 2150mAh extended battery (obviously). It turns out MTP isn't a "lack of SD card slot" thing, it's an Android 4.1 and up thing. Some of you could probably have told me that, but I think many people are unaware of this, and go for phones with SD cards in the hopes of being able to sync with their Mac and Linux computers again.
I was surprised to find that Google Wallet won't happen, probably ever. No one has figured out how to do it.... So if you rely on Wallet at all, this alone should be a deal-breaker for you.
Despite Kevlar and Gorilla Glass, as well as a sturdy-feeling frame, the buttons on the RAZR M feel cheap and noisy, and the vibrate resembles that of an iPhone 3G or the Palm Pixi Plus... "cheap" I suppose would describe that rather well..
The only positive thing I have to say about the RAZR M is that the download speeds are considerably better, even though it almost always has the same number of bars as the Galaxy Nexus. In areas where the GalNex got 30 mbps or so down, the RAZR M got 50-65 mbps down. Although virtually 100% of the time, the RAZR M lost to the Galaxy Nexus with upload speeds by around 4 mbps.
I'll sum all that up by saying I'm proudly sticking with the Galaxy Nexus for the foreseeable future and that my goal here is not to ***** about the RAZR M or my poor decision, but to literally warn anyone here against getting it. I mean, we all have the Galaxy Nexus for certain reasons, mostly to have the latest version of Android almost always, so I figure some of you may be eyeing the RAZR M as well.
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well this is awkwardly coincidental...
you might have noticed i have posted a few times to the GNEX forum on random threads and even started my own on flashing to PagePlus. i love my Galaxy Nexus (Toro) and i have had so much fun with it over the past few months ive had it.
just 2 days ago i got a Razr M from my boss and am now using it as my DD and unlocked it to Simple Mobile, unlocked the bootloader and just loaded Eclipse V5.0 not 30 minutes ago. i have to say your observations are duely noted
but i have to say i tend to disagree with you
i friggin LOVE this thing! sure its only got 8gb internal storage, of which you can only use 5gb, but again theres that SD Card slot and i happen to have a 32gb Class 4.
the buttons dont feel cheap at all. as a matter of fact their quite sturdy and i havent had it turn on in my pocket and take random pictures. their a little cramped being on the one side, but their less sensitive as opposed to my Nexus which is good for me as i carry alot of crap in my pocket for no reason at all.
the screen is only slightly smaller than my Nexus and while its not 720x1280 its slightly more vibrant in color and looks less saturated. its more responsive too even after my Nexus has been updated to 4.3. plus that Gorilla Glass is gonna go through some real tests with all the stuff i carry on me and my tendency to drop things.
non removable battery is fine by me too. ive had not alot of battery drain and ive been using it pretty extensively. i played with it heavily (gaming, streaming videos, tethering to my pc, etc) off the charger after a full charge and came out after about 4.5 hours and still had 40%.
unlocking the bootloader isnt hard at all with Matt's Utility if you do it before the latest update, but im sure a fix will be up very soon for those who have taken it.
performance wise it beats my Nexus 1,000,000 to 1. little to no stutter/lag even with 4xAA enabled while gaming whereas my Nexus just isn't keeping up. and again, its responsive as heck.
the vibrate being low? it fell off my table getting a TEXT MESSAGE!
also its LOUD in comparison to my GNEX. like obsuredly loud!
all in all its an awesome device and pitted against my GNEX its a really close call.
i'd have to give my vote to the Razr M :good:
Well thanks for the reply lol, that's very interesting.
I love the vibrate on the Nexus, it's just right IMO, and very smooth.
I unlocked the bootloader and threw on CM10.1, but something tells me development will be slow for anything beyond 4.2.2.
I will admit the battery (again, non-extended) is an upgrade, as is the... Well the camera is interesting, either the Nexus or RAZR M have a better camera, depends on the subject and the lighting.
I still insist the screen looks pixelated (pentile?), I mean it does have a lover ppi and resolution than the GalNex...
You have me on speed though haha. The RAZR M I found to be more responsive (on stock), though to be fair it lagged immensely on CM10.1, whereas 4.3 is doing the Nexus a favor.
It is close though, it was a tough decision which one to pass into the family "up for grabs" pool, but I'm happy with the GalNex.
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I got my wife a RAZR M and have been pretty impressed by it. She uses her phone a ton and blows away my battery life. I will say I'm not thrilled with the camera still but its OK. The display is fine for most things. I do think the colors are better than the gnex but not as good clarity of course.
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Well thanks for the reply lol, that's very interesting.
I love the vibrate on the Nexus, it's just right IMO, and very smooth.
I unlocked the bootloader and threw on CM10.1, but something tells me development will be slow for anything beyond 4.2.2.
I will admit the battery (again, non-extended) is an upgrade, as is the... Well the camera is interesting, either the Nexus or RAZR M have a better camera, depends on the subject and the lighting.
I still insist the screen looks pixelated (pentile?), I mean it does have a lover ppi and resolution than the GalNex...
You have me on speed though haha. The RAZR M I found to be more responsive (on stock), though to be fair it lagged immensely on CM10.1, whereas 4.3 is doing the Nexus a favor.
It is close though, it was a tough decision which one to pass into the family "up for grabs" pool, but I'm happy with the GalNex.
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im on the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to the "come and get it" as my girlfriend has been *****ing about her Virgin Mobile Kyocera Rise *shutters* since she got it back before Christmas. since i brought home my Razr M she's been eyeing up my Nexus like a fiend haha. she deserves the upgrade so ill be flashing the Nexus over to VM for her shortly.
as for the display with its qHD 960x540 resolution the pixelation on the launcher is noticeable when compared to the GNEX but again the colors seem to pop a bit more and i only notice the pixels on the launcher. in games (which i do alot of) and in other apps its much less apparent.
i love the camera on both phones and i think the front facing camera on the Nexus is a little bit better but the rear camera on the Razr M is pretty beast.
ive thrown on the aaarrrgghh kernel to Eclipse rom as well as the PurePerformances enhancement and it seems to have to fixed most of the stutter in the launcher. i hope they go a bit further with rom development as i would love to see what 4.3 has to offer the device. whether or not its gonna happen is up to the devs.
all in all i love both phones and i think my girlfriend will enjoy having the Nexus as much as i did
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After owning a droid x2 I would personally have a hard time purchasing another Motorola phone. They made promises and never delivered.
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I could say the same thing about Samsung after my SGS (GPS Update). I think you just have to take devices for what they are when they drop, not for what you think they might get. Easier said than done, I realize. It's what makes me hesitate to go for the new Droid Maxx. I REALLY want to give it a whirl, but having something non-nexus kind of turns me off in the unlocking the bootloader department. That said, I'm kind of stuck with Verizon, and I can't run the GNex forever.
I'm stuck with Verizon also unless I want to give up unlimited data but that also means I have to pay full price for my next phone. Although I'm not overly impressed with my gnex toro it does eventually get updates and it unlockable. Motorola said they would unlock our bootloader more than once and never did, they also promised ICS then backed out on both. I still have my x2 but it's so slow with GB and bloat. Things may change but I would definitely need nexus phone.
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From your review, I don't think it's that bad.
I'm considering Razr M, actually. Not for an upgrade, but before I buy GNex.
Unfortunately, Razr M can't be found anywhere in my country. So I bought GNex.
I didn't regret it. But I still think Motorola Razr line's build quality & battery life must be better than GNex...
Here we are 2 years later with our Droid Razr M's. Contracts are ending. Official updates are done. ROM maintainers are leaving. Development is slowing.
And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
I'll be leaving in 3 months or so, My Verizon contract will be finished and I'll be picking up a Moto G (2014) and floating around the pre-paid market for awhile.
And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
I very much dislike the Razr M. I personally don't care about "specs" but The Razr M is a little too small for me (I dislike the shape immensely) and the lack of internal storage has always been a issue. I hate having to move updated system apps/libs back to the /system partition just to save internal storage space . I came from a 32GB Galaxy Nexus so... It's been a tough adjustment.
When I first starting using this device, it suffered from SOD's (Sleep of Death). Which made the device unusable until the bootloader exploit was released (The first time around) and I was able to remove MP-Decision. Moto fixed this issue with the last two JB updates and I no longer had to disable MP-Decision, which was nice. The performance and battery life has been great though and much better then my Galaxy Nexus.
And last but not least is the terrible display. PenTile display on such a small screen tends to distorts text. It's... just terrible.
To sum it up, I just don't like the Razr M. I got it for "free" on upgrade (this was before the $30 upgrade fee that Verizon is pushing now) and this was the best "free" device at the time.
I also picked up my M in the same way you did. It was an upgrade and it was my very first smartphone, so I liked the size. I used it for about 9 months, then purchased a used HD (the mod bug bit me). I relegated the M to media duty and it does just fine.
However, with the M being my first smartphone, I had nothing to compare it to, until I purchased my M8 a few months ago. My HD seemed to perform better than my M, but the M8 blows those out of the water.
I like M, there's really nothing bad about it. However, it's an older entry-level phone and the newer ones kill it. Step up to a flagship like I did with the M8, and the M will feel archaic.
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And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
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And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
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My experience is not typical and may not be of much reference value to others, but I still would like to share.
M is to be liked for many reasons. It has a sleek and modern look (especially the narrow bezel and kevlar), it is pretty lightweight, it has by far the best CDMA and GPS reception I've ever seen (cold start and locked on in 3 secs), it serves me well as a hotspot and GPS device which are exactly my intended purposes. With CM11 on board it doesn't seem to slow down much compared to my primary phone, the Nexus 4. And overclockable to ~2GHz. Guess it could still take the challenge of CM12 Plus I don't care about Pentile and stuff, as long as it's not 480p on 5 inch, and as long as it's not as blue as Galaxy S's SAMOLED, I'm perfectly fine with it.
However, its shape is indeed a bit small and rough in hand, and in this sense, Moto G did a way better job. I think it should be a 4.5" crammed into a 4.3" body instead of a 4.3" into 4". Moreover, it does heat up pretty fast during use, and that somehow affects battery life.
Like I said, M is just one of the "wingman" devices I own for misc purposes, and I switch these devices pretty often (watch my signature). However, I don't think I'll be swapping away M in the near future, because it's already one of the best backup device I've had. Power and simplicity in a compact package.
P.S. I'm going to try my luck to trade my Xperia SP away for a Galaxy Mega 6.3, hopefully it's worth it.
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do you think that the moto g (2014) is better than the razr m?? or there is a non expensive phone that can be much better than the m
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do you think that the moto g (2014) is better than the razr m?? or there is a non expensive phone that can be much better than the m
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I don't think the Moto G (2014) is much better than the Razr M. They both have there gives and takes. It's a cheap off-contract phone, that's why I'll be picking one up.
i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
Was there any Roms available if you took the ota?
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I don't think the Moto G (2014) is much better than the Razr M. They both have there gives and takes. It's a cheap off-contract phone, that's why I'll be picking one up.
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i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
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i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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i installed the CM11 KK BL, is very smooth and i don't have any bluetooth,wifi and mic issues, except that the screen recording reboots my phone, the camera doesn't have the 60fps mode and HDR, the GPS don't work, the speaker has low volume and the voicenotes on whatsapp are not working (the voicenotes are silent) even if i send one to other phone , when this in stock works pretty well, these are the reasons that keeps me to use CM11 as a daily driver, right now i'm using the stock (183.46.15)
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i installed the CM11 KK BL, is very smooth and i don't have any bluetooth,wifi and mic issues, except that the screen recording reboots my phone, the camera doesn't have the 60fps mode and HDR, the GPS don't work, the speaker has low volume and the voicenotes on whatsapp are not working (the voicenotes are silent) even if i send one to other phone , when this in stock works pretty well, these are the reasons that keeps me to use CM11 as a daily driver, right now i'm using the stock (183.46.15)
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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*sigh* Why not just fall back to JB BL?
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*sigh* Why not just fall back to JB BL?
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Because I don't want too. Stock is working fine for me.
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Here we are 2 years later with our Droid Razr M's. Contracts are ending. Official updates are done. ROM maintainers are leaving. Development is slowing.
And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
I'll be leaving in 3 months or so, My Verizon contract will be finished and I'll be picking up a Moto G (2014) and floating around the pre-paid market for awhile.
And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
I very much dislike the Razr M. I personally don't care about "specs" but The Razr M is a little too small for me (I dislike the shape immensely) and the lack of internal storage has always been a issue. I hate having to move updated system apps/libs back to the /system partition just to save internal storage space . I came from a 32GB Galaxy Nexus so... It's been a tough adjustment.
When I first starting using this device, it suffered from SOD's (Sleep of Death). Which made the device unusable until the bootloader exploit was released (The first time around) and I was able to remove MP-Decision. Moto fixed this issue with the last two JB updates and I no longer had to disable MP-Decision, which was nice. The performance and battery life has been great though and much better then my Galaxy Nexus.
And last but not least is the terrible display. PenTile display on such a small screen tends to distorts text. It's... just terrible.
To sum it up, I just don't like the Razr M. I got it for "free" on upgrade (this was before the $30 upgrade fee that Verizon is pushing now) and this was the best "free" device at the time.
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I still have a year to go on my current contract; I got my Razr M for "99 cents" last November. It was an early Christmas present from some relatives, as my then-6-year-old Samsung Alias had taken a deadly fall.
I honestly don't know what I'll be doing a year from now. Sure, I'd love a better phone, but I'm really too broke to buy anything significantly better. (I was able to pick up a Galaxy Nexus on the cheap recently, which I'm keeping as a backup phone.) Maybe I'll buy a used Moto G for cheap and go prepaid.
The Razr M is technically my first smartphone; I had a Droid X2 (donated by someone who went to an iPhone), but simply used it as a Wi-Fi device. Either way, it was one heck of a step up - it was my first foray into having Internet access anywhere, after all, as well as Jellybean in general (it was on the penultimate JB firmware when I unboxed it; I fatfingered an OTA two days later and was thereafter locked out of custom ROMs until KitKat and Towelroot came along). I was more or less wowed by it.
Time passed, of course. I educated myself. I slowly started to become frustrated with the Razr M's shortcomings, simultaneously justifying the phone choice and kicking myself for said frustration because it was my relatives who picked and bought it for me - I'd probably still be on a feature phone and nowhere near writing this post otherwise.
I like the size of the phone, at least while it's in the Otterbox case I got for it. It's just the right fit for one-handed use. I like the overall performance - it rarely lags enough to frustrate me, and it handles every game I've thrown at it fairly well. What I don't like is the small internal storage (I haven't really looked into solutions for moving apps to the microSD). I don't like the fact that I went from two days of moderate use (on my Alias) to less than half of one (on a "light" day, I might get 14 hours). I wish the camera was better; the Galaxy Nexus takes better pictures in my opinion. I wish the screen wasn't PenTile, or at least that the resolution was higher. I don't like that it now has two separate bootloaders and we have to reflash JBBL for the more-stable CM right now (I'm sticking it out with KKBL, simply because I'm lazy, scared I'll make a mistake, and still hopeful that the remaining issues will be fixed before long).
I'm dreading the inevitable day when the Razr M community plummets and I (and the dozen or so other late-contractors) am left behind with only each other for help. Life happens, I guess.
If anyone has a Droid Razr Maxx that they're selling for a low price ... let me get back to you in 2015. :/
I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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It's really not really Motorola entirely... It's more Verizon... I understand the logic behind it... They want to be able to provide the best possible assistance in the event we call for technical support... Don't get a device from Verizon or a Verizon branded device if you want to ensure there will be some hope...
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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Samsung is not much better.[emoji6]
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I am about to fall back to the JB BL... Stock KK Sucks, the issues with AOSP on the KK is maddening. So close, but just annoying enough to not want to deal with it. Hats off to the Devs that made great builds with what they had to work with. CM10 was flawless....
I am probably going to be stuck with this phone until next May. It is a work phone and we get new ones when the owner of the company comes back from Florida every spring. Unless,,,, my phone "accidentally" breaks or something.
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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It's Verizon, all non-Verizon Motorola phones can be bootloader unlocked using the official way on their webside. Only by Verizon it can be done only on developer edition phones. And many other Verizon phones by other brands than Motorola have the same problems with unlocking bootloader.
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I'm going to buy the OnePlus if I can. My friend got one, just waiting on an invite code.
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