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So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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KNguyen104 said:
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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Using the RomManager interface I chose to Wipe Data and Cache and also chose the gapps package to install. I guess I could try it again but I was mystified why it didnt work since I "thought" it was so simple.
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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snowboarda42 said:
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
Alpine- said:
I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
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No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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Alpine- said:
So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
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I had the same issue....although mine have been caused by restoring system data.
What I did is manually DL the rom, boot into recover, wiped cache/dalvic, flashed from zip (Both CM7 and the proper GAPPS file) and it worked.
eventer289 said:
No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
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nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
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So wait, still getting the loops?
teh roxxorz said:
So wait, still getting the loops?
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I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.
What I started doing was booting into RECOVERY (i know it sounds scary but it really isn't) A little off topic but there is a great app that I think every rooted user should use, it's called: Reboot Control Widget It only costs a measly $1 in the Market but it's well worth it. Basically you put the widget on the desktop and click on it. You are then given the option to Reboot your phone, Hot Boot (fast reboot), boot into Recovery, Bootloader or Shut Down. Best dollar you will ever spend on an app.
So anyway, l strayed from my point. The problem you are experiencing is partially due to not having fully wiped your phones data/cache. I know you think you did it through the Clockwork app but from experience it doesn't work that well. There is a "flashable" file called Calkulin's Format All. It is in the DEV section posted in Calkulin's Rom section. It will clear everything except the contents of your SD card.
1. Boot into RECOVERY
2. find: INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
3. select the Calkulin's Format ALL.zip file (your phone will be totally clean after this)
4. Again, choose INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
5. Select the ROM you want to flash. (If it is a Cyanogen based ROM you will have to flash the appropriate Google Apps file after flashing the ROM. If flashing a Sense ROM the Gapps file is not necessary)
6. Flash Gapps file (Google apps if necessary)
7. Once this is done select REBOOT SYSTEM NOW
I feel confident that if you follow those steps you won't run into any bootloops!
I have added the Format All.zip file that I mentioned in my last post.
Little advice:
- take the time to do a Nandroid before flashing a new rom
- use Titanium to restore only the apps w/o the data. I know it's nice to restore everything the way you had it on the last rom but from my experience this has led to instability in the new rom. Also from my experience when you are on a SENSE rom and use Titanium to backup your files and data when you install a AOSP (like CM) rom and try to restore those files and data it won't even let you. Just something to keep in mind if you are switching between CM to Sense or vice versa.
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I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
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Yes it should.
Manually wipe you factory/data, cache, dalvik, then flash the rom with the latest gapps and you'll be good.
SantinoInc said:
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.....
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Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
when you use clockwordmod recovery to wipe your phone the dalvik doesn't wipe with the wipe option you see on the main screen, i belive you will see the option to wipe it in the advanced menu
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Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
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They are the same. ROM Manager boots you into recovery and nandroids for you. People have mixed experiences with ROM Manager. From my experience it is best just to boot manually into recovery and take care of all your flashing and wiping there.
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Hello i am currently on CM 7.03 and am wanting to change to CM 7.1.0.
Is there any way of updating the software without flashing the new ROM?
Also to update by flashing the new ROM do i just have to wipe cache and reset factory settings then run the zip from CWM?
Thank you for your time.
u only need to wipe cache and dalvik cache (only to be sure) and flash the update..thats all
no factory reset or other wipes are needed
So am i right in thinking that too change between ROMS thats all that you have to do? (obviously having made a nand backup)
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So am i right in thinking that too change between ROMS thats all that you have to do? (obviously having made a nand backup)
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yes and u will not lost any setting
Ah that's good. I will still do a back up of all my messages and contacts regardless.
I thought i would lose everything again, considering that the first time that i flashed a ROM i came from stock and rooted with Revolutionary.
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Ah that's good. I will still do a back up of all my messages and contacts regardless.
I thought i would lose everything again, considering that the first time that i flashed a ROM i came from stock and rooted with Revolutionary.
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you lose everything when u do a factory reset/wipe user data from the recovery
the factory reset/wipe user data is necessary when u change the rom (like going from a sense rom to cm7)
but when u just upgrading (cm7.0.3 to cm7.1) u dont have to factory reset/wipe user data..only wipe cache and dalvik
btw always do a nandroid backup before upgrading
NAND backup, flash the rom, flash the gapps. You might want to clear cache and dalvik-cache too. It shouldn't be necessary to wipe your data.
and what if I also want to flash a new hboot and don't want to lose all my data? can I first update to 7.1 (from 7.0) then do another nandroid backup then flash a new hboot (which require wiping everything, I understand) then restore from nandroid backup? Is that possible or there is another easier way to do it? thanks
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and what if I also want to flash a new hboot and don't want to lose all my data? can I first update to 7.1 (from 7.0) then do another nandroid backup then flash a new hboot (which require wiping everything, I understand) then restore from nandroid backup? Is that possible or there is another easier way to do it? thanks
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That should be possible if you are flashing the CM7 hboot and have not modified any system files as the partitions should still fit after the hboot update. However I recommend you do some more research or back up your data with titanium backup (in case it fails).
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itachi1706 said:
That should be possible if you are flashing the CM7 hboot and have not modified any system files as the partitions should still fit after the hboot update. However I recommend you do some more research or back up your data with titanium backup (in case it fails).
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nice! thanks!
Installed CM 7.1.0 by just wiping the cache and dalvik and it all worked perfectly.
I have installed MildWild CM-2.7 on my Desire but there is now MildWild CM-2.8 and I can't find a guide how to install/update my Desire.
I have got S-OFF and recovery by Revolutionary The guide I followed to S-OFF and ROOT
This is the ROM I using. MildWild CM ROM
Just flash it via recovery like you did with the previous version
Will flashing the new version cause me to loose everything on my current version I.e apps and data etc??
Thanks for the reply though
do back up first, wipe davik+cache and flash it... it should work if not do full wipe and restore back up
just post any result we will move from there
What should I use to hackup TIbackup? Or is there a better one that you reccomend?
Wh000sher
Titanium and recovery. All basic stuff. Have a,read of my rooting faq in my signature. Tells you everything you need to know
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rootSU said:
Titanium and recovery. All basic stuff. Have a,read of my rooting faq in my signature. Tells you everything you need to know
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Do I only restore the Titanium I am guessing, as restoring recovery would revert back to my current ROM? and I have thanks
Yes indeed. With titanium, only restore "missing apps with data".
Theres a guide Angusc wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480343
ROM Manager can make updating so much easier - well worth the investment.
JohnHarrisNZ said:
ROM Manager can make updating so much easier - well worth the investment.
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I can't speak for other devices but for Desire, nope it's not worth the time and money.
kotag82 said:
do back up first, wipe davik+cache and flash it.
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So I'm only wiping the davik cahce correct?
Not anything else or have I missed something?
Wh000sher said:
So I'm only wiping the davik cahce correct?
Not anything else or have I missed something?
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Things I've learned with all this flashing that may be helpful for you.
1. Before flashing, always backup your current system up. nandbackup via recovery, titanium for your apps, sd card if really needed for that you need to do.
2. If flashing an updated version of same rom, wipe cache and dalvik only on your recovery (unless explicitly specified by dev to make a full wipe.)
3. If you are having weird issues after upgrading the same rom, do a full wipe and start fresh. If issue is not resolved, report the issue to the Dev's thread.
4. Do a Full Wipe on recovery (System/factory, cache, dalvik if coming from a different rom).
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Things I've learned with all this flashing that may be helpful for you.
1. Before flashing, always backup your current system up. nandbackup via recovery, titanium for your apps, sd card if really needed for that you need to do.
2. If flashing an updated version of same rom, wipe cache and dalvik only on your recovery (unless explicitly specified by dev to make a full wipe.)
3. If you are having weird issues after upgrading the same rom, do a full wipe and start fresh. If issue is not resolved, report the issue to the Dev's thread.
4. Do a Full Wipe on recovery (System/factory, cache, dalvik if coming from a different rom).
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Thanks for the reply.
In response to 2. I am using ClockworkMod as my Recovery and I am guessing you mean I have to wipe 'cache partition' and 'wike dalvik cache' under advanced?
I am creating a guide to help fellow N00bs how to update a rom and change between ROM's
Wh000sher
Wh000sher said:
Thanks for the reply.
In response to 2. I am using ClockworkMod as my Recovery and I am guessing you mean I have to wipe 'cache partition' and 'wike dalvik cache' under advanced?
I am creating a guide to help fellow N00bs how to update a rom and change between ROM's
Wh000sher
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Yes if I remember correctly there are the first three lines on that recovery is wipe system, cache partition (like you stated), and wipe dalvik. So if upgrading just wipe cache partition and dalvik cache.
System partition is where the "Android OS" resides. Wiping it is like formatting your computer. Most of the time, incremental updates of the same rom requires you to wipe just the cache partition and dalvik, otherwise if the rom update has a lot of changes, the dev might require you to wipe all three options on the recovery.
Having wiped my cache and dalvik cache. I am now wanting to install the new version. On the main screen I have 2 options which are tempting to click.
One is 'Apply update from SD card' and the other is 'Install zip from SD card'
I am unsure of which to choose but my gut instinct is to go with 'Install zip from SD card', is this correct or am i going to make a terrible mistake?
wh000sher
Install zip from SD
Hello all
I am a noob about flashing custom roms and i want to try the AOKP BUILD 25 for my nexus just to try it.
So my nexus has the following:
Phone: MAGURO GSM
Android OS: yakju 4.0.2 ICL53F
I WANT YOU PEOPLE TO HELP ME IF I GET THESE STEPS CORRECT(so i dont mess up my much loved nexus)
1.Make a backup with CWM(is this what you guys call NANDROID???)
2.Wipe data/factory reset in CWM
3.Put the ROM at the root of sd card on the phone(in pc i connect the nexus and put them right after the galaxu nexus drive where everything is???)
4.Flash AOKP BUILD 25(Do i need to flash previous build before i flash buid 25)
5.Flash Gapps
6. Reboot
My other questions are:
1.Everytime you flash a custom rom,Gapps,custom KERNEL,RADIO, I do these steps one by one or all at the same time????
2.The md5 sums i put them together with the ROM OR GAPPS on the phone or is just for me to check if they are correct
3.If a make a factory/data reset in CWM doesn't that delete my CWM and Titanium apps back ups???
4.Last one is if a flash a custom rom like AOKP 25 after that i cant restore system apps and data???
Thank you all people in advance for your very apreciated help.
Badtazm
badtazm said:
1.Make a backup with CWM(is this what you guys call NANDROID???)
2.Wipe data/factory reset in CWM
3.Put the ROM at the root of sd card on the phone(in pc i connect the nexus and put them right after the galaxu nexus drive where everything is???)
4.Flash AOKP BUILD 25(Do i need to flash previous build before i flash buid 25)
5.Flash Gapps
6. Reboot
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Correct.
My other questions are:
1.Everytime you flash a custom rom,Gapps,custom KERNEL,RADIO, I do these steps one by one or all at the same time????
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Depends on what you're flashing. If you're just updating GAPPS or to a new version of the same ROM you don't have to do a full wipe. That'd be a hassle. Only wipe if they recommend it for the update, or you're switching to a completely different ROM.
2.The md5 sums i put them together with the ROM OR GAPPS on the phone or is just for me to check if they are correct
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That's to check that you had a proper download.
3.If a make a factory/data reset in CWM doesn't that delete my CWM and Titanium apps back ups???
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Its meant to preserve your data but wipe the system for re-flashing.
4.Last one is if a flash a custom rom like AOKP 25 after that i cant restore system apps and data???
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You can restore user apps + data. I would stay away from restoring system data as it usually causes more problems than its worth. As a precaution I like to do a nandroid of the clean ROM before batch restoring with TiBU, because restoring lots of apps can mess things up and you don't wanna wipe and reflash because you borked a restore.
martonikaj said:
Correct.
Depends on what you're flashing. If you're just updating GAPPS or to a new version of the same ROM you don't have to do a full wipe. That'd be a hassle. Only wipe if they recommend it for the update, or you're switching to a completely different ROM.
That's to check that you had a proper download.
Its meant to preserve your data but wipe the system for re-flashing.
You can restore user apps + data. I would stay away from restoring system data as it usually causes more problems than its worth. As a precaution I like to do a nandroid of the clean ROM before batch restoring with TiBU, because restoring lots of apps can mess things up and you don't wanna wipe and reflash because you borked a restore.
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thanks man just two more question..
1.Do i need to flash previous builds before i flash buid 25??
2.And i flash the Milestone 3 after i flash AOKP BUILD 25 AND GAPPS???
badtazm said:
thanks man just two more question..
1.Do i need to flash previous builds before i flash buid 25??
2.And i flash the Milestone 3 after i flash AOKP BUILD 25 AND GAPPS???
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no and no
25 is the full rom (outside of gapps) and i think more current than milestone 3.
all you'd need to do is flash aokp 25 and then gapps.
Thanks very much guys i m going to try it right now and we ll see if i succeed..
I've been flashing the nightly cyaongenmod 10.1 builds on my i747m using cwm.
Is there a way to prevent losing all the settings and apps that I have? For example, if I don't clear data/cache will this cause bad things to happen?
Or is there another way to do this?
nmunro said:
I've been flashing the nightly cyaongenmod 10.1 builds on my i747m using cwm.
Is there a way to prevent losing all the settings and apps that I have? For example, if I don't clear data/cache will this cause bad things to happen?
Or is there another way to do this?
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Get titanium backup and do a full backup of your apps/data. When you restore, dont restore any system app but you can restore the rest.
And to avoid problems, always clear cache/dalvik.
nmunro said:
I've been flashing the nightly cyaongenmod 10.1 builds on my i747m using cwm.
Is there a way to prevent losing all the settings and apps that I have? For example, if I don't clear data/cache will this cause bad things to happen?
Or is there another way to do this?
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All you need to do is download the new nightly that you wanna flash, boot into recovery, flash the nightly. If you have any other files that you wanna flash like a kernel, flash them after the nightly. Clear cache & dalvik cache & reboot. You won't lose any apps or settings doing it this way. This is how I update every day. Now if you wanna do a clean install every single time you update, that's another story. The way I just explained to you will work just fine. There is no need in wiping EVERYTHING for every update.
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All you need to do is download the new nightly that you wanna flash, boot into recovery, flash the nightly. If you have any other files that you wanna flash like a kernel, flash them after the nightly. Clear cache & dalvik cache & reboot. You won't lose any apps or settings doing it this way. This is how I update every day. Now if you wanna do a clean install every single time you update, that's another story. The way I just explained to you will work just fine. There is no need in wiping EVERYTHING for every update.
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It's not only about wiping everything (Clean flash), having a backup is always good and *needed* imo. Never know when something will go wrong, could be as simple as a corrupted download.
So just to confirm, if I download the latest nightly, boot into cwm, clear cache and dalvik, but don't delete user data, then flash ROM and gapps, it will have all my settings and apps already setup?
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So just to confirm, if I download the latest nightly, boot into cwm, clear cache and dalvik, but don't delete user data, then flash ROM and gapps, it will have all my settings and apps already setup?
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Yes.
Should still concider Tibu. Friendly suggestion.
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So just to confirm, if I download the latest nightly, boot into cwm, clear cache and dalvik, but don't delete user data, then flash ROM and gapps, it will have all my settings and apps already setup?
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Yes.
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BWolf56 said:
It's not only about wiping everything (Clean flash), having a backup is always good and *needed* imo. Never know when something will go wrong, could be as simple as a corrupted download.
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Thanks. I didn't think about mentioning that. It's kind of a given to me to keep a good nandroid. Some people may not know though. Thanks for adding that.
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I have a touchwiz nandroid and a cm10 nandroid on my SD card and my computer.
Will I have to flash gapps again or will that already be there?
nmunro said:
I have a touchwiz nandroid and a cm10 nandroid on my SD card and my computer.
Will I have to flash gapps again or will that already be there?
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Gotta flash the Gapps everytime you flash a ROM. (Their respective one)
nmunro said:
I have a touchwiz nandroid and a cm10 nandroid on my SD card and my computer.
Will I have to flash gapps again or will that already be there?
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You will only have to flash Gapps the first time. If you update like I told you, you will not have to flash them.
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Changing from stable to nightly
Hi,
I'm currently running on a cm 10.1.3 stable (note 2 N7100). I would like to install cm-11-20141027-NIGHTLY-n7100. Do i have to do a complete wipe or just flash the downloaded file from recovery.
cm upgrade manually w/o losing data
RobbieL811 said:
All you need to do is download the new nightly that you wanna flash, boot into recovery, flash the nightly. If you have any other files that you wanna flash like a kernel, flash them after the nightly. Clear cache & dalvik cache & reboot. You won't lose any apps or settings doing it this way. This is how I update every day. Now if you wanna do a clean install every single time you update, that's another story. The way I just explained to you will work just fine. There is no need in wiping EVERYTHING for every update.
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Does it apply to stable updates and upgrades also and not only for nightly?
Can I use the same method for updating CM11s to CM12 whenever they release...?
Titanium Backup
Will the Titanium Backup * root be the correct one, or the Titanium Pro?