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Hey People, the more I use this excellent phone the more I wonder can it really replace all of my gadgets on a day to day basis?
I wrote a piece on my blog about this in detail, but what do you think?
Gadgets I use the most on a day to day basis are:
Laptop - Internet and E-mail
Camera
Sat Nav
Phone
PMP - Music and Video's
My verdict was 99% a yes, and close to 100%.
Any thoughts!
It can do VOIP/SIP over HSDPA extremely well with a little help from SipDroid which I just set-up. Yay, for the Desire. ^_^ And for cheap calls!!
As for the laptop replacement it's quite adequate for my morning commute to work but when I need to do something fiddly like setup my PBX I prefer to tether my laptop.
As for replacing everything else, yeah pretty much, although whether it can replace one's girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other is a matter for debate.
LOL since when has ones, Girlfriend/Boyfriend etc, been a gadget? (why do I feel like that will spawn innuendo?)
I bought because if this!
Finally AIO device
Internet and E-mail
Camera(before used camera)
Sat Nav
Phone
Music and Video's(before used MP4)
It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
RXP said:
It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
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That's a valid point. I spend a lot of time on the road in my car, so a car charger helps with that!
yes i think that HTC DESIRE is the AIO device anyone needs. but the concern and main problem is here too....if i use all the features all day i only get up to the evening max...then charger is on
So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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I think I don't need extra battery, it can last for one day if I use all it's features
I couldn't compromise on the shape, I'm hoping that a 2000mah + extended battery that is the same size will be released. I've actually been using my laptop to charge my desire on the go, lol.
i must say that its replaced a my ipod touch and n97 (email client on n97 was poor, video playback wasn't great and music player could have been better and sat nav was far too buggy) but i have to say i've been really taken with it, picks up emails faster than my outlook does for gmail, screen is fantastic, battery life is roughly the same as my itouch after a day's usage and since google maps navigation has come along its become even better! hopefully a bigger battery will be released soon as mentioned above
I have been a big PC user for most of my life and found I spent many hours on it each day catching up with whatever is happening online, etc.
Since getting this phone, I've actually found I spend half the time on the computer as I used to. I can happily be elsewhere and be able to catch up on forums through my phone with no discomfort
Technology is meant to make life easier and more efficient. The desire has certainly done that for me.
Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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You will see looking around these forums there is a lot of discussion an battery life! Personally I find that there are certain Apps that seem to drain my battery very quickly. One culprit for some reason seemed to be the 'Sky News' app? I dont have a list of apps that cause it but like I said read a few of the battery threads and it will give you some idea. The Sat Nav is a huge drain on the battery, and even when connected to my current car charger it drains quicker than it charges. I know why, its because my car charger is only kicking out .5a unlike the required 1a that the device needs (needless to say a better car charger is on its way).
But normally I can get a day out of it no problem. And If I use the Sat Nav its gonna be plugged in to a charger anyway...
I am happier with my Desire than than any other gadget I'be owned. The only problem is memory for apps. I'v havent got that many but I'm still short on space. what's the point in having a superphone if you can't show it off? I have 8 gig memory card but can't use any that space for apps! Madness!
Apps are limited un production by this and won't be a real co.tender to the iPhone appstore until it's solved.
If anyone know how to get apps on to SD on the desire please let me know. Would make this thing pretty perfect.
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Desire can replace a lot of gadgets but it's definitely not a replacement for a laptop or a camera.
IMHO, no. I've used it for a few weeks now, and at one point considered replacing my current phone with it but...
1. Appalling battery life, maybe a working day of usage, and if I'm having to put it on charge in the evening, I'm not using it.
2. Lack of stability - applications crash out at random, shutdowns frequently hang. If I have to take the battery out to reset it, a real pain if I'm out walking, it's not ready for frontline use. While I've been typing this, the browser has completely locked up.
3. Flash memory shortage; when it's rooted, or the OS supports install-to-card, this won't be a problem, but I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time managing memory. If I need to spend a lot of time maintaining the device, I might as well use WM.
4. Odd Calendar syncing - I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I want control of how my calendars are synced to the device; Android doesn't give me that. If I want to look back a few months and check the last time I took a leave day, it may not have synced. Shabby.
5. GPS - I imagine Copilot works well on this, but a few hours testing Google Maps Navigation at the weekend really brought out serious flaws, particularly when passing through areas with no cellular data coverage. A SatNav system has to sit in the dashboard mount and just work reliably for the whole trip or it's worthless, GMN didn't.
It's a nice device to play with, and there are some good, useful applications, but I need a reliable phone, and this isn't it. Hopefully the Evo will be.
Does anyone know how well the xperia play works with SE's liveview? I heard many people had bluetooth problems if they had less then 50MB free RAM on their phones (Seems weird :/) But I have nearly 250MB of free ram after a few days of normal usage and an update fixed a lot of peoples problems. But still it seems a bit phone specific, did anyone test it with a xperia play?
For those who wonder what liveview is: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/liveviewmicrodisplay
2th oled display for cell phones working over bluetooth, you could wear it as watch for example.
It's supposed to be functional with all 2.x.x Android phones, and Sony Ericsson's website even states it on the compatibility list.
All sources seem to point to "yes" =].
I know it's compatible, but a lot of people had problems with specific phones that where officially supported. They had a lot of random disconnects on certain phones.
yes.... i am using with XP and the disconnection issue is still there with latest firmware update.
got it as well but i dont thing its ram related
I have it, it does work, albeit a little sketchy at times. More often then not it pisses me off, the clock works ok on it, the Facebook almost never updates, forget about text messages showing up. RSS feeds on it quickly pile up and a lot of the apps you find in the market just don't work well. For instance, some of the apps lock the watch into that app only, the only thing to do at that point is a hard reset by holding power for 15 seconds. Hard reset is something you become very use to with this thing. Intermittently it loses connection for no reason at all, sometimes it even refuses to connect, doesn't matter which firmware you have installed.
The battery life on the thing is flat out horrible too, if you're lucky it will make it through the day, but only if you barley use it. I've grown accustomed to shutting off my phones Bluetooth and using it for a watch only, it will keep time but not access the apps without Bluetooth, at least that way I can make it more than a day with the clock function. It does control the music player pretty well, even displays the artist and title on the phone. It has a pretty cool function to dismiss call too, although not to answer them. The interface on the watch itself doesn't lag much, its pretty snappy when it works. Another glaring issue is how hard it is to remove from the watch band to charge the thing, the sucker snaps in there very tightly and the first few times its nearly impossible to remove, after awhile though it will become very lose from constantly inserting it and removing it. I got around this by purchasing a third party watch strap and bending a slight curve in it near the mini usb port, I can actually charge it while its mounted on the watch now.
Overall though, this thing is a gimmicky piece of ****, splendid way to waste money with little satisfaction return. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
I have Liveview and im using it with my Xperia X8
Build
Build Quality is not that good, specially it pops out in the clip every now and then, because of Bad Design.
but you can sort it out by changing the strap or have a customized strap and make your liveview permanent on the clip, so no more accidentally popping out in the clip.
but for me i just used a double adhesive tape at the back and sides of liveview so it will stick to its clip no more problems after that
Connectivity
I have used it on SE Stock Eclair 2.1.1 and even Custom Rom 2.2.1/2.3.4, and updated Liveview and Liveware Application, It's Pretty stable and no Annoying disconnections, and really depends on available RAM you have actually, In my X8 i got a maximum of 80mb Ram after starting the liveview/liveware app to run it, but if my ram goes like 25mb(lowest) then disconnections issues will occur.
that happens only when playing games that are ram hungry.
I used it everyday when i go out usually 8hrs a day and i will have 1 or 2 disconnections, but after i reconnect it it will in 2-3s and its fine again.
Liveview Updates
Messaging/Calls/Miss Calls are instant, but i cannot say the same way with Facebook/Twitter/RSS feeds, but you can update them manually
Plugins
There are alot of available plugins in the market right now, but some simple plugins that you might need is still not available, for me i want a Notes plugin, but no luck at all
Battery Life
It can last up-to 2-3 days of 8hrs a day on a single charge, really depends on how you use it.
When would choose to use this over your phone? it seems to do nothing more than what your phone does?
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I have it, it does work, albeit a little sketchy at times. More often then not it pisses me off, the clock works ok on it, the Facebook almost never updates, forget about text messages showing up. RSS feeds on it quickly pile up and a lot of the apps you find in the market just don't work well. For instance, some of the apps lock the watch into that app only, the only thing to do at that point is a hard reset by holding power for 15 seconds. Hard reset is something you become very use to with this thing. Intermittently it loses connection for no reason at all, sometimes it even refuses to connect, doesn't matter which firmware you have installed.
The battery life on the thing is flat out horrible too, if you're lucky it will make it through the day, but only if you barley use it. I've grown accustomed to shutting off my phones Bluetooth and using it for a watch only, it will keep time but not access the apps without Bluetooth, at least that way I can make it more than a day with the clock function. It does control the music player pretty well, even displays the artist and title on the phone. It has a pretty cool function to dismiss call too, although not to answer them. The interface on the watch itself doesn't lag much, its pretty snappy when it works. Another glaring issue is how hard it is to remove from the watch band to charge the thing, the sucker snaps in there very tightly and the first few times its nearly impossible to remove, after awhile though it will become very lose from constantly inserting it and removing it. I got around this by purchasing a third party watch strap and bending a slight curve in it near the mini usb port, I can actually charge it while its mounted on the watch now.
Overall though, this thing is a gimmicky piece of ****, splendid way to waste money with little satisfaction return. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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couldnt have put it any better myself!
Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.
Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back
So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...
Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\
Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.
nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less
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Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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Brother....
For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you
2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...
openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview
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I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.
I just purchased a Defy, on Vodafone, my first android phone. After noticing a few of my friends' phones, I soon realised I was well up for it, and after stumbling upon a website that compares specs, price, allsorts of things, decided the Defy was a nice entry point to the ever expanding world of android.
As soon as I got it, I plugged it straight in and hustled about for how to get Froyo on it, I'd seen it running and played about with it a couple of times and for some reason Eclair seems a bit of a lemon to me. Lucky enough, not long ago the official 2.2 was released for UK Defy.
And that is what I am still running now, after installing cyanogenmod 5 on my mate's G1 (thrown right in at the deep end there, especially when 6 runs so huffy) and doing a few other daft jobs like frankensteining two old Sony Ericsson C902's to sell as one, I've found myself with not a lot of time spare with the internet and a data cable. However, I have had a bit of a fiddle, including root, ADW launcher, overclocking to 1ghz @ 50mv and a nice selection of lovely apps and gadgets.
After a few days though I noticed that when you muck around with your phone all the time your battery takes a hammering. I took a bit of a gamble here and purchased a 2430mAh battery off ebay for like 13 quid or something. Yeah, cheap chinese goods. While I was at it I picked up a 16gb sd card, class 10 apparently for another £12 (I don't know whether to believe the class 10, I could never remember what app I used to rumble the '32gb' micro sd I got for cheap last year - turned out to be a 2gb. That's ebay...), both came two days later and i fitted them.
Now, at first, I thought the battery was a full on con, it lasted no longer than my stock one before it was telling me i had 1% charge, and I duly slomp over to the charger (I'm using circle battery widget, is this known for its accuracy?). But then I started noticing that my battery was running down to 1% round about half three, four o' clock, and it was staying at 1% until i got home at 5. Then I forgot to charge it overnight and it was knocking on 1% at mid day, so I put it into ultra power saving mode (not an actual mode, obvious face) and, weird, it was still chugging along by 5.
Something very fishy indeed, I thought, though not for the worst...
2 o' clock today, it was saying 1%. I didn't care, Friday afternoons mean sit about in the yard and check out sickipedia and ebay for an hour or two so I kept on using it - full brightness for the sun (hot today wasn't it?), wifi on and browsing internet while skipping back and forth to youtube, sent and received the odd text too...
By 4 o' clock I had mentioned it to the fellas at work and it was starting to become a bit of a novelty. I did think as well, that I'd maybe not yet fully decharged the battery (what with rushing to the charger at the slightest hint of 1%, 'cos let's face it, that ****'s scary to look at when you got 5 browser windows open and you can't work out how to check your history after a reboot), and maybe it would be a good idea to discharge that, to reset the battery meter to my new battery.
So I left the brightness all the way up and intermittently until ten o' clock, surfed the web, played some games, fiddled with ethereal dialpad and generally gave it a bit of nuisance. By ten o' clock, I was really getting sick - this was about eight hours since it had first told me it only had indeed 1% of battery life left - so I started going nuts. I opened the market and just kept scrolling down the top free list, loading the content off my wifi (and downloading a few, but man I just hate ads..), plugged my hifi into it and played the only album I have at top 'media volume' (in connected music player, although I want something sleeker. Blacker. Quicker), got another 3 or 4 tabs up in browser, turned off all the low battery measures in setvsel, and rocked out a few minutes of the latest QI on iplayer. And this carried on for hours, At around twelve I decided to get the flashlight on too but after a while you realise you're having no fun (I haven't found a standalone flash light for the defy so I have been using video recorder mode and that's a chew on).
And finally, at 20 past 1, it died. But it was what happened during the power down that had me amazed...
You know those circuit bent gameboys and chiptune machines that create all sorts of 8 and 16 bit glitches and woops, this little beast started doing that - about half as loud as the music it pushed out of the way, and lasting for the whole blurry, dim shut down screen.
I don't know if this happens often, or if it was because I was halfway through downloading Cars and Guns (still didn't run that fresh on this) and a few other tasks, but it sounded awesome, I half thought it would bust out into a filthy beat.
I'm gonna charge this crazy fiend up and when it eventually does run out again, I'm gonna try and catch that effect and record it.
Has anyone else noticed this before or was it just a one-time glitch? I'd love to hear it mixed into some dirty beats (the breakdown in the android orchestra)
And hell, what a device, all my 'with it' buds show me their iPhones and how they can 'change their themes' and 'shoot in hdr' and 'turn it on its side, see?'
I laugh in their direction and stroke my Defy.
So... Im getting back my recently purchased Galaxy Note 2014 White Wifi 32GB for another one. Thanks god the shop gave 15 days in order to see if something went wrong.
Here is the point: Once the battery reach some percent between 20-30%, suddenly, just in a second, it drops till 10%, and seconds later, to 5%. No root, no apps opened, no strange software installed, Samsung Motion options used (except some S-pen functions) or Devs options touched, i checked out all this things after it happened the first time. I only used it to search on Firefox, write/read PDFs with ezPDF, see some movies or see how Real Racing 3 or Dead Trigger would see on the screen.
No idea about whats going on.
In adition, im worried about this tablet´s heating. Sometimes gets alarming and it feels pretty uncomfortable, as you feel something could break bad inside if so much heating is hitting the hardware, and men, im just using 3 simple apps at a time. I get Real Racing 3 use GPU really hard but... it feels moron as this game hasnt been update so it can use high graphic settings on this tablet.
diego-rbb-93 said:
So... Im getting back my recently purchased Galaxy Note 2014 White Wifi 32GB for another one. Thanks god the shop gave 15 days in order to see if something went wrong.
Here is the point: Once the battery reach some percent between 20-30%, suddenly, just in a second, it drops till 10%, and seconds later, to 5%. No root, no apps opened, no strange software installed, Samsung Motion options used (except some S-pen functions) or Devs options touched, i checked out all this things after it happened the first time. I only used it to search on Firefox, write/read PDFs with ezPDF, see some movies or see how Real Racing 3 or Dead Trigger would see on the screen.
No idea about whats going on.
In adition, im worried about this tablet´s heating. Sometimes gets alarming and it feels pretty uncomfortable, as you feel something could break bad inside if so much heating is hitting the hardware, and men, im just using 3 simple apps at a time. I get Real Racing 3 use GPU really hard but... it feels moron as this game hasnt been update so it can use high graphic settings on this tablet.
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You ha e a defect. Mine never gets alarming hot. It gets warm when playing big games, but so do all tablets. You can feel something break inside? Send it back.