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I thought SGX540 that's superior than iphone4 would run new games without any lags but for new games such as 9mm and let's golf 3 i've face many stutter on those games. I'd like to ask others that you have problem like me or not ? or maybe next time i'd go back to ios or waiting ice cream sandwich. Those games are smooth in iphone4 but not in galaxy s that has superior GPU.
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
im currently on JVT.firmware
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
Yeah, sgx540 is better than the 535 use in iphone 4, but it's all about drivers and optimisations. And we can't deny that Apple is doing a wonderfull job with iOS.
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I notice the lags too. I strongly believe that the lags are caused primarily by low ram. On Froyo, I never had lags in games, and they were all super smooth. But on gingerbread, after a few hours of usage, the ram drops below 100mb, and the games will lag. The games don't lag on a fresh boot. Hence, the problem is not with the gpu, but with the fact that 512mb of ram is just not enough for gingerbread. If you want to remove the lags in games as well as in the phone interface, I recommend that you flash a 2.2.1 rom. ZSJPK was one of the best roms I've ever used.
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
Simplicitiy is very good!
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Simplicitiy is very good!
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how many ram does system take with that rom?
For games playing, 2.2.1(JSD) is a Must!
titooo7 said:
I didn't play to 9mm and I just tested Lets Golf3, but yeah... it's not strange to have some small lags sometimes.
If gaming on the phone is very important for you I suggest to use samsung roms and not cm7 or miui.
And yeah, maybe you should have buy an iPhone, Android still can beat iOS when it comes to games
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
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indeed, i also think the lags are caused by lack of ram...
when you move the camera around in the game it sometimes hangs and when the textures are in RAM, you can continue playing without fps drops or lag
a tip before you start playing:
- root your phone and install "autostarts" to disable all crap which boots up with android
- reboot phone
- after booting go to task manager and cleanup ram
- go to settings => applications => active services and kill unnecessary processes. (for example, when you close the facebook app, it still keeps running as a service, sometimes almost using 50MB ram)
i reduced lag in 9mm alot with the method above...
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Is there a custom rom that has a very low ram consumption? that would fix this issues
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No, custom roms, even so called simple and bare ones, use more ram than stock roms. I recommend ZSJPK 2.2.1, which has about 180mb of ram on boot, and an average of 120-140mb or ram after two days' usage.
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I can't use supercharger with semaphore kernel, and CF bigmem settings (98 mb) doesn't solve the performance issue.
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Then you do it without the script. What's the problem here? I have over 2,000 games on my phone. And no, that wasn't a typo. None of them lag.
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Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
bigmem kernel may help? its what i use
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... what? You're suggesting Samsung over CM7/MIUI when you want more performance? Are you trying to troll or something?
Reboot my phone. Clear memory with task manager. Kill active services... just to game? Why not just close some apps? Common sense, people. It's a brilliant thing.
Yes, it's called V6 Supercharger Script. It's like a ROM, but it's actually just a script... and you can run that script on whatever ROM you want. What it does, is it lets you pick a number. That number decides how much free RAM you'll have. Then, like magic, you just have it.
There hasn't been a single piece of good advice in this thread...
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Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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I've rolled back to froyo and now without apps in the background i0ve about 140mb of ram used, and now 9mm goes smooth. I'm not moving from froyo any more.
Also, now the battery lasts in 6 hours of screen usage, and with jvt only 4 hours
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because android automatically closes apps when RAM is low and services always keep running in the background, whether you need them or not.
why would you let a service use your ram when you don't even need it? THAT is common sense.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
leroys said:
Learn some manners, people here are just trying to help. Have you actually tried the two games mentioned in op, you tell us you have 200 games installed is 9mm and lets golf included in these?
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Are they though? When I help someone out, I tell them correct information. If I don't know the correct information, I don't tell them anything. Why? Because incorrect information is worse than not helping at all. Few people in this thread have given remotely acceptable advice. No one needs to do a 3-step process, including rebooting your phone, just to play games; likewise, no one needs to downgrade to Froyo in order to game either.
I have Let's Golf! 3D installed currently, but I don't have the most recent revision of 9MM—although I have played it in the past. I have my phone's CPU and GPU overclocked, like I'm sure many of us do here, and I can play both without noticeable lag. I didn't have to reboot my phone to play them. I didn't have to uninstall apps to play them. I didn't have to flash an entirely new ROM to play them. And I certainly didn't need to stand on one leg with the phone above my head to play them.
Bad advice is just bad.
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Do you even use an Android phone?
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I posted what helped reducing lag in 9mm on my phone.
if you don't need the help i posted, that's too ****ing bad. the fact this topic was started shows people are facing the same problem with lack of usable ram memory for 9mm.
looks like you have some sort of magic phone with unlimited amounts of ram memory that never lags
the reason why i told him to reboot his phone is because ram usage is much less in most cases, right after booting up.
and btw, next time do some more effort instead of posting one line if my information is not correct
I usually play Fifa 12 with my xplay. it run so smooth but only when I reboot the phone before I play the game. So when I play Fifa12 during the day, There is so much lag and slowdown, Even with Hard gaming mode of ram manager pro and use fast reboot app before I play the game. on the other hand, if I reboot my phone. Every game run so smooth and I don't need to change to hard gaming mode in ram manager pro.
Any suggestion ?
ps. Sorry for my english
Because your system is probably using more ram in the middle of the day, after a reboot your system uses alot less & slowly increases, you should uninstall unused apps & close unwanted services & maybe use Advanced Task Killer (From The Play Store)
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Because your system is probably using more ram in the middle of the day, after a reboot your system uses alot less & slowly increases, you should uninstall unused apps & close unwanted services & maybe use Advanced Task Killer (From The Play Store)
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I had tried advance task killer to kill any task that show on screen. But the result is the same, the game (Fifa12) is still laging so much. Cannot be compared with its performance when reboot.
why on earth still people hold on to Task Killers when tons of reliable articles already prove they are useless and do more harm than good? oh good god
Android booster. Frees ram, actually freezes apps not kills them, saves battery. The problem is your ram is being used up. Easy fix though!
Uninstall the task killer if you are using one and let Android manage the apps on your phone by itself.
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Android booster. Frees ram, actually freezes apps not kills them, saves battery. The problem is your ram is being used up. Easy fix though!
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I tried it this morning. It look like just another task killer, and the result is no change, the game is still lag after I hit optimize button.
V6 Supercharger. That worked for me, phone getting snappier.
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V6 Supercharger. That worked for me, phone getting snappier.
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really ? Is it more effective than ram manager pro ? So, which option in v6 do you choose for you xplay ? I will try it to night and test for 1-2 days. Then I will back to report the result.
hey
jeff7424 said:
V6 Supercharger. That worked for me, phone getting snappier.
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hey wheres the link to the v6 supercharger ...... I need this .....
I use v6 supercharger, the kernel script they have and the die hard battery script both work great and I can go 17hrs with heavy use with gaming!
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i have the same problem , it runs great after a reboot and gets slower. I installed v6 supercharge which made the homescreen blazing fast , but the games still lag after sometime. I even set a widget for "engine flush" , which may or may not help , im not sure.
Im using die hard launcher and super ledded 512hp
V6 Supercharger settings ?
Hi,
First thread I read so far where people are mentioning they use V6Supercharger on XPeria Play.
I have a question :
Do you use V6 Supercharger on the stock 2.3.4 Sony-Ericsson ROM or are you applying it on a custom ROM ?
If on the stock ROM, what settings are you putting in ?
I ask before I tried to apply V6 Supercharger on my R800i under Stock SE ROM without success.
Frozen boot screen of death...
Had to recover through ClockWorkMod. Thanks ClockWorkMod !
Thanks for your feedback !
Hi there,
As nobody answered my call so far, I come back to give feedback on my own experience.
I tried again to install the V6Supercharger Script and manage to get through this time.
The first time, I guess I simply did not wait enough time.
In fact, I had to wait like almost 10 minutes on the Sony-Ericson XPeria logo (after the boot animation) before my phone came back to life.
It can be quite stressful !
After that, I went through the pin code entry screen and found out some of my widgets did not properly load and some applications were not showing up.
Therefore, I rebooted and everything went fine on the second time. All the apps showed up properly (only mixed up in the scrolling app section).
Launching the script again, it confirmed my phone was 100% supercharged with the following settings :
- DieHard launcher
- Rock&Roll Kernel
- Miscellaneous tweaks and 3G enhancement installed
- 512HP setting with V6 CustOOMizer option
- Minfrees set at 8, 12, 40, 47, 55 and 62MB
with 367MB of Ram (is this correct for the XPlay ?).
This was applied on the Sony Ericsson stock ROM 2.3.4 and the stock Kernel.
The first impression was that the scrolling between various home displays was faster.
I started Dead Trigger, running correctly (maybe just a bit slower, not sure) and when I exited the game, I had almost no Redraw time to wait.
Before V6 Supercharger, I used to wait around 5 seconds before all the icons were there again and I could scroll.
This time, the icons were right there and the scrolling hesitated for maybe 1 second but got super smooth again right after that.
Ok, this is to share my experience with you, guys.
No idea if anyone has experience on the XPlay ? Maybe using other settings ?
As there is a clear note that this script is not intended for heavy gamers, it tends to indicate it should not be really used on the XPlay, mainly used by heavy gamers.
What is your opinion on that ?
Cheers,
Hi All,
I like(d) my ARC, especially for gaming. The problem is, however, that many games (amazing spiderman, the dark knight rises, death trigger..) randomly crash during gameplay. Firstly I thought it is a RAM problem, but now I think it is something else because when the game crashes, often the launcher is still in memory and services like Facebook or Maps or Dropbox have been running for very long time. In other words, if it is a RAM problem, shouldn't these services and processes be killed before the memory reaches critical state and the app crashes? I have about 150MB free ram when starting the game, I doubt the whole game is going to eat it all up (unless android is for some stupid reason trying to keep 100 MB or so constantly free..)
So if it is not a RAM problem, what else might be causing these issues? Lack of VRAM? Are you guys facing the same crashes? If not, what ROM are you using? (I wanna keep ICS, so pls. don't tell me "go back to GB" )
Thanks for your opinions!
V6 Supercharger.
The only problem - supercharging makes the phone slower and everything lags more. Heavier applications (like Chrome or maps) cause the whole phone to freeze even for 5 seconds.
Use CM10 or MooDeD 90.7
the Game Run well for couple minutes and it freeze my phone and reboot...anbody know what the problem is?
Cyanogen Mod 9 (build 7)
soraxsnow said:
the Game Run well for couple minutes and it freeze my phone and reboot...anbody know what the problem is?
Cyanogen Mod 9 (build 7)
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I have had it on my phone for a long time now and it goes smooth on every ROM i flashed including CM9(build 6 not 7 but there is not to much difference). Have you tried reinstalling? Restoring app from titanium backup or some other program can cause problems so don't do that just install it from apk.
same probleme here... freezing after start or fc.
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Guys it happens when RAM usage exceeds more than maximum limit...as GTA 3 is an HD game...so do clear some memory before playing GTA 3....also if Running time of phone exceeds 4-5 days...Phone reboots while playing HD games...all because of less amount of RAM....
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Try optimizing your Phone
Why not optimizing your phone?
Try deleting some unused system apps such as widgets, Live wallpapers.
Overclock your phone, though this will make your battery draining faster, you'll feel less lagger when playing games
Hi there
I have a Galaxy nexus on android 4.3 and running 3d games have lots of lag. For example, the game with the most amount of lag is Modern Combat 4 with the meltdown update. Is there a way to improve the gpu processor power on the phone so that itwouldboost the framerate? Its always about 5-15 fps and im so annoyed. If there is a solution, could you let me know? My galaxy nexus is not rooted.
Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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Does it plays smoothly then, for no reason, it gets laggy for some seconds, then come back to play everything smoothly again, then repeats? Or it just keeps being laggy at all times?
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It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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speedsolve said:
It does exactly that, it plays smooth for 5 seconds then ridiculous lag for 10 seconds then repeats like a loop.
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What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
ygorvaz said:
What I'm gonna tell you now may be related to what what is happening with your device or not. It was my problem, so if it's not this I don't know what can be happening.
First, the galaxy nexus can downvote it's processors when it's too hot, although it's probably not that, just keep that in mind.
Anyway, go to settings - apps then "running apps" and check the used and free ram. If you have high RAM usage (like, 600 mbs being used) than this is probably the problem. While you're in the game, your gnexus will try to clean RAM for it, but since your gnexus is already out of RAM, it will force close background app's and services, but since those are required to run all the time, all that's going to happen is that they will keep being restarted, causing lag in the apps that are running.
To check if this is the problem, just check how much free ram you have free. If it's too low, open a game (even temple run 2 or sub way surfers will do), then when the game starts, go back to settings-app-running apps and check for things restarting.
If this is the problem, then you need to see what is the apps that are consuming all your RAM (although it can be android itself, just keep reading).
Just check what apps are in the running part of the "running apps". If you have a lot of apps running, then you can try freezing some of them or unnistalling the ones that consume more RAM. BUT! it may be that there's just too much RAM being consumed even though you have few apps running, in this case, the problem is android itself.
I don't know if this happens to android 4.3 itself, the gnexus's version of it or if it's some app causing it, but there's a memory leak that will eventually consume all your RAM. I'll use my case as an exemple: I have some common apps running on background (facebook, messenger, whatsapp, airdroid, 3d watchdog). If everything is normal, my "used RAM" keeps aroung 430mb~. Leaving almost 200mb~ free for apps to use. But after some days using my phone, the used ram will grow to 500, then 550, then 600mb, eventually to 630mbs.
Check if this is happening to you. To check, simply reboot your device, then when it boots, check how your RAM is being used.
If it was normal before the reboot (around 500mb, probably even less) and stay this way after the reboot, then your problem is another one, then I can't help you.
If your RAM was high and after the reboot it's still high, check your running apps.
If it's high but after the reboot it's back to normal, then you just "solved" your problem. Just keep rebooting daily.
If this was your problem, then enjoy your phone. If it's not, you can try checking some other things like the I/O speed (which was solved in android 4.3. Check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852&highlight=trim ).
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When I checked, I had about 300-400 megabytes of ram being used. Thank you for the info and the effort though. It has a dual core processor, it should be able to run well.
I figuare out the problem of the game lag, the CPU temperature limt!
If you're using custom kernel, set the limit to 74, and u will find out it smoothly on game play, plus if you of the gpu to 384, its almost lag free, but frame drop is also here coz the gpu power.
Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Does this work on stock kernel also? Last time i had custom kernel, lots of screen problems.
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Nope, flash leankernel, wipe cacje and dalvik cache, install trickster mod, and adjust the settings.
Quite less you can do with stock kernel.
ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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ok i have lean kernel but where do i change the setting in the franco kernel app
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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OK I installed trickster but every time I try to change a setting, after a reboot, it goes back to stock. What now
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You need to use trickster mod not Franco app. The Franco app is optimized for the Franco kernel.
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FKU also incorporates LeanKernel Updater so why isn't it optimized
And just to add that the above trick of disabling thermal throttling works nicely for me. I always wondered about why playing PPSSPP produces random lag - setting the governor to "performance" won't help a bit - and FKU saved my ass!
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