Ok heads up on T-mo LTE - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE IT !!! I just spoke to a cust servc rep and I'd originally called to ask if LTE connectivity would be rolled out in the 4.1.2 update and she said at this time Tmo doesnt even have LTE connectivity . There is a on-going merger between Tmo and metroPCS and metroPCS DOES have LTE or is in the process now of getting it and she said when that merger is complete T-mo will be in the process of merging LTE network into their service as well . She said late quarter 2013 we may see it but not for now.
Also she said there was no ETA on the 4.1.2 update So thats that .
Also Just another little heads up. I'm sure many of you know this already but I didn't . On the unlimited 4g plan offered with this device. It's not really unlimited 4g . It's unlimited internet. I saw on my device it said 2gb high speed data. And so I asked what the 2gb was seeing it was sold as unlimited 4 g . And well she explained once you hit 2gb of usage your internet is throttled to DIALUP speed =O . And offered a truly unlimited 4g plan for another 10/month . Just for all the people that may have been confused as I was what was up with the 2gb on the usage.
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I ask it tmo will have lte in 2013 there slowly uping the speeds this from a teck
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I ask it tmo will have lte in 2013 there slowly uping the speeds this from a teck
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Uhmmm , I'm sorry sir / ma'am I have no idea what you said .

Lte should be rolling out by early next year. As far as slow updates blame sammy not tmobile. I will admit tmobiles data is spotty depending on where you go. Not as bad as sprints data and a heck of alot cheaper than verizon.

I thought everyone already knew this. How did you get the idea that lte would be here sooner. They are currently refarming which will help with certain things, but lte will not be out till 2013.
And since we are on the subject of not knowing. Tmobile will finally be getting the iphone in 2013. My wife and son currently use our old att iphones but get edge service. Part of the refarm is to support iphones. In Denver, they now get 3g. In 2013 there should be full support for the iphones.
I typically get great speeds and sometimes on par or better than verizon. As mentioned, not always as good as verizon but much cheaper. Also much better than sprint or att here in Colorado.

I think your English isn't too good. Your grammar is all over the place. Anyhow, I heard tmo is doing a deal with Verizon for lte as well... I guess no one really knows for sure until it actually comes out.
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You are on the Unlimited - Plus Data plan (2gb high speed) and not on Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan (true unimited). I know this is confusing because they both show up in the Classic Unlimited - Unlimited Nationwide 4G. I made sure that I got onto the Unlimited - Plus Data plan within the Classic Unlimited - Unlimited Nationwide 4G which is truly unlimited. Of course only on the non-hotspot plans. Why do they make the wording so confusing?
Trying to make sure you are getting the right plan package can make you go crazy.
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THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE IT !!! I just spoke to a cust servc rep and I'd originally called to ask if LTE connectivity would be rolled out in the 4.1.2 update and she said at this time Tmo doesnt even have LTE connectivity . There is a on-going merger between Tmo and metroPCS and metroPCS DOES have LTE or is in the process now of getting it and she said when that merger is complete T-mo will be in the process of merging LTE network into their service as well . She said late quarter 2013 we may see it but not for now.
Also she said there was no ETA on the 4.1.2 update So thats that .
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I knew that. Sometime in late spring or summer for LTE.
The new Android version will end up coming to us at that point. But this is something that the customer service would not know at this point in time. Samsung will add their fixes within that version at that time. So T-Mobile doesn't even have that yet. This is downside of using a non-Nexus device. We have to wait for the updates to go through the chains.

Sounds like someone bought a phone on a network without doing any basic research about that network or the plans they offer.
T-Mobile has previously said they would have LTE until next year, and it's pretty clear which plan is the only one that offers truly unlimited data.
Relax, switch plans or return the phone.
Verizon service is much better overall than T-Mobile in my experience in terms of coverage and building penetration. With a good signal I can get 20Mbs down with TMo on the Note 2, fair pings (latency), and about 2Mbs upload. On Verizon with a GS3 I've seen 30 down and 10 up on LTE with phenomenal pings. YMMV.
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As far as slow updates blame sammy not tmobile.
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Nope, blame T-Mobile (and every other carrier) for the slow updates. I had an unlocked Note 2 before switching to T-Mobile and their Note 2.
My international version got regular (every few weeks) large OTAs just fine. The carrier is always to blame for delays as Samsung clearly pumps out regular OTAs to their non-carrier branded version all the time. These revisions would easily work on any branded device, minus any show stopping radio issues (which isn't the issue here). Samsung builds and releases enhancements quite frequently only to have the carriers sit on it and tinker with the software to their liking.
It's a well known fact that the carriers are the problem. They need to "test and certify" (lol) each software revision for their network..and of course apply their crapware boot screens and apps before releasing an OTA, hence the delay.

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THEY DO NOT EVEN HAVE IT !!! I just spoke to a cust servc rep and I'd originally called to ask if LTE connectivity would be rolled out in the 4.1.2 update and she said at this time Tmo doesnt even have LTE connectivity . There is a on-going merger between Tmo and metroPCS and metroPCS DOES have LTE or is in the process now of getting it and she said when that merger is complete T-mo will be in the process of merging LTE network into their service as well . She said late quarter 2013 we may see it but not for now.
Also she said there was no ETA on the 4.1.2 update So thats that .
Also Just another little heads up. I'm sure many of you know this already but I didn't . On the unlimited 4g plan offered with this device. It's not really unlimited 4g . It's unlimited internet. I saw on my device it said 2gb high speed data. And so I asked what the 2gb was seeing it was sold as unlimited 4 g . And well she explained once you hit 2gb of usage your internet is throttled to DIALUP speed =O . And offered a truly unlimited 4g plan for another 10/month . Just for all the people that may have been confused as I was what was up with the 2gb on the usage.
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Congrats, you just posted two basic facts almost everyone with two seconds of research should have found out at a minimum before even considering moving to T-Mobile.

This is a stupid thread everyone knows the LTE situation, why in the world make a thread about what customer care says. Do you really think they get info thats up to date if you really need to know that bad, tmobile is testing LTE in select markets not with customers though. They have been working on refarming for customers while preparring for LTE. Also the data plan situation can be found on there website pay for unlimited data and get unlimited data otherwise it will be slowed while you will still have data it will be significantly slower. Do more research if this is news to you, updates with bloat and taking longer is nothing new in the US no matter what carrier you will always see some delay some wait more then others could be worse we could be waiting as long as vzw customers waited for ics on the thunderbolt. At least what software we have was usuable without major bugs that would have made an update necessary for our phone to function. Threads complaining are silly know what you buy first before you buy it.
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Is it really that serious? I think my 8-15mb down is good enough
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We will have LTE soon
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Is it really that serious? I think my 8-15mb down is good enough
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This. I get anywhere from 10-30 on average & thats plenty good enough for me.
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You are on the Unlimited - Plus Data plan (2gb high speed) and not on Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan (true unimited). I know this is confusing because they both show up in the Classic Unlimited - Unlimited Nationwide 4G. I made sure that I got onto the Unlimited - Plus Data plan within the Classic Unlimited - Unlimited Nationwide 4G which is truly unlimited. Of course only on the non-hotspot plans. Why do they make the wording so confusing?
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Yes it can be confusing, but you're over complicating it.
For the record, just say all plans have "unlimited" data, meaning no data overages
The 2GB, 5GB, and 10GB give that much 4G data, then drop down to 2G speeds after.
"Truly unlimited" is unlimited 4G data, period, with no hot spot feature available.
The 5GB and 10GB (only) include the hotspot feature for free.
Whether classic or value is irrelevant.
Most people know this, but for anyone who was confused by your post.

Has anyone tried to use a different apn?
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Is it just me, or does anyone else not want Lte? I was on Verizon Lte before I switched to T-Mobile. T-Mobile is just as fast and my battery life is insane. I'm not sure if Lte will bring a noticeable increase in speed, but it will decrease our battery life.

The advantage to LTE will primarily be the low latency it should have. The second big advantage will hopefully be upload speeds similar to the download.
T-Mo's dual channel HSPA+ ramps up to some fairly competitive download speeds, which is great for streaming or large file transfers, but the latency is very high, which makes things like web surfing seem slower than on other networks. It takes noticeably longer for pages to start loading than on Verizon or AT&T. I have accounts on all three and frequently do side by side testing.
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I sometimes write like I am talking to them in person. Which doesn't always come across clearly in writing.
Basically we knew all this. And though it is not always as clear as it should be, if you do your research then you will know what you are buying into.

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This is a stupid thread everyone knows the LTE situation, why in the world make a thread about what customer care says. Do you really think they get info thats up to date if you really need to know that bad, tmobile is testing LTE in select markets not with customers though. They have been working on refarming for customers while preparring for LTE. Also the data plan situation can be found on there website pay for unlimited data and get unlimited data otherwise it will be slowed while you will still have data it will be significantly slower. Do more research if this is news to you, updates with bloat and taking longer is nothing new in the US no matter what carrier you will always see some delay some wait more then others could be worse we could be waiting as long as vzw customers waited for ics on the thunderbolt. At least what software we have was usuable without major bugs that would have made an update necessary for our phone to function. Threads complaining are silly know what you buy first before you buy it.
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Once again I'm getting crap for trying to help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35844706#post35844706 <------ here is atleast 1 person that didnt know
So this thread is for him / her
You people need to relax. If you feel the information in any given thread doesn't pertain to you . DONT READ IT. I mean what can I say? I didn't know this info before the woman told me.
Also I wasn't complaining again was just posting for people that may not have known . Mods I'm doing my best not to go off a a curse laden tirade right now. Just so you know. :good: xD

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If Sprint were to end Unlimited Data, which carrier would you go to?

Let me start. I would go to at&t or t-mobile in a heartbeat.
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This has nothing to do with the phone, and this is a general forum, shared with users on every NA version of the S3. Most people here do not have Sprint. Find a carrier-specific place to talk about this.
I'd stay with att ....
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I left sprint for att, what good was unlimited data ifvi couldn't use it in my area
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I left Sprint two years ago for T-mobile just for pricing. Now that technology and data requirements are higher. Im glad were i am. Sprint will catch up soon, but soon usually isnt fast enough for most.
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id say verizon.
att and tmo have crappy service where i live.
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This has nothing to do with the phone, and this is a general forum, shared with users on every NA version of the S3. Most people here do not have Sprint. Find a carrier-specific place to talk about this.
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Please stop the mod in training stuff, the only carrier specific thread is the pre-order thread aside from the development thread.
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I'd get an att small business plan so I can have unlimited data.
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This has nothing to do with the phone, and this is a general forum, shared with users on every NA version of the S3. Most people here do not have Sprint. Find a carrier-specific place to talk about this.
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It's just really annoying to see a bazillion threads about Sprint this, Verizon that, AT&T OMG, T-Mobile stole my money, I hate Bell, blah blah. Carrier discussion is phone agnostic. There is little that is specifically relevant about the carriers to the S III. Yes, the software differences and radio differences are important, but other than that it's just pointless and adds clutter here.
Man, people are getting their bums hurt when someone talks bad about the Yellow. Yikes.
Well, personally it would be a hard choice. If Sprint tossed unlimited, Verizon could be a choice, but seeing the locked boot loader, etc is worrisome. ATT doesn't have the same coverage. And TMobile... well can be hit or miss.
Imho I wouldn't really care at all since it would also have a benefit - The network load would be relieved and everyone will have faster data.
Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
I dropped Sprint to go to T-Mobile when the GS3 dropped a few weeks ago and I couldn't be happier. Every carrier has their weak spots but I feel that T-Mobile offers the best combo of data speed and price.
The one thing keeping me with Sprint was the unlimited data, but T-Mo gives you 5 gigs for 35 bucks w/ free hotspot. Sprint charges 30 bucks + 10 for "premium" data and no hotspot. I think I went over 5 gigs once while on Sprint. Pretty fair trade in my book. If my market was one of the early ones pegged for immediate LTE deployment, I may have stayed though
The things I will miss with Sprint, however, are their customer service and in-store insurance program.
I left for Verizon last week. Couldn't be happier. I had unlimited data with Sprint but only used about 100MB a month because it was pointless to try and use mobile data due to the crappy coverage and low speed in my area. I have 5GB with Verizon and that should be plenty, although this ~25-30mbps LTE is making it really easy for me to use the internet on the go...lol
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This has nothing to do with the phone, and this is a general forum, shared with users on every NA version of the S3. Most people here do not have Sprint. Find a carrier-specific place to talk about this.
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Hmm... not verizon because of share everything and locked bootloaders. Maybe tmo or straight talk sim only.
Oh and i went data roaming while typing this... lol
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I just got booted from Sprint in May, thank you 00001.prl. Spint 3G for me was <100Kbps and no Wimax or LTE scheduled for my area.
Currently testing Net10 (Sister to Straight Talk both are Tracfone). So far so Good. I've been buying the refills from CallingMart and with coupon codes it costs $46.50/month, $49 normally at CallingMart and no tax . I chose them over ST because Net10 is supposed to be able to roam and there were no complaints of being booted for excessive data useage. First month I used over 10GB, not threats and no throttling. Been getting 4-8 Mbps, there is no LTE in my area. I normally use 4GB/month but am pushing it to see if they whine.
So far I like the service. I'm starting my second month. Don't be afraid of the prepaid stigma, my phone's banner still says ATT.
I would go back to comcast land line.. lol... Seriously, I need unlimited data, had straight talk for 2weeks and they sent the message of death, had at&t & verizon felt like i was being taken advantage of, my bill was like being compared to paying a brand new Cadillac Escalade car note.. T-Mobile had more dropped calls than the pentagon "did i say that, sorry" all though sprint network crawls it's unlimited & I like that! But to each its own... Here's a better question, if xda shut down what the hell would we all phone geeks, techs, devs, trolls, mods, contributers, flashaholics do?
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My family switched to Sprint from AT&T because AT&T's customer service sucked and we wanted the unlimited data (overall our plan is cheaper). I know they can't keep it unlimited forever especially after LTE rolls out in more cities, but hopefully it lasts for at least another year or two. There's no LTE in the cities I live or go to school in yet unfortunately...
I'm getting my first Android phone (Sprint GS3) in about a week when I get home from being abroad and I look forward to playing with it.
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It's just really annoying to see a bazillion threads about Sprint this, Verizon that, AT&T OMG, T-Mobile stole my money, I hate Bell, blah blah. Carrier discussion is phone agnostic. There is little that is specifically relevant about the carriers to the S III. Yes, the software differences and radio differences are important, but other than that it's just pointless and adds clutter here.
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this is a SPRINT phone so it classifies as a sprint thread......
and i left T-mobile for sprint on monday and i think i would have to go for verizon again

Making the switch to Sprint

So I've decdied to make the switch to sprint and boycott these scammers! VZW just throttled my connection because I reached 1gb in data, half of my shared data. something a Verizon rep swore they never practice unlike Sprint. I asked a Sprint rep and she mentioned they don't charge for overages like Big Red, they notify you and lower your speeds.
Can anyone else confirm that Sprint throttles coconnections and not just for overages? I'd like a little more info before I switch over. Thanks in advance.
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Sprint does not throttle. At one point I used about 20+ GB a month for 3 months and never got throttled. Same on verizon before I gave my line to my gf. I would use about 80+ GB a month for 9 months and I was never told anything
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Yea if they even attempt to throttle it that means you're watching waaaaaay too much porn or you're watching way too much HD porn lol :crying:
They can't throttle 0.5kbps lol
It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
Yeah, Verizon has some really scumbaggy business practices as I've seen before. They will do anything legal to be able to get the most of your money.
Sprint doesn't do most of the crap that VZW does. There have been 0 documented cases of someone being throttled, even when this one guy reached 1TB of data on 4G, all they did was send him a letter asking him to stop. I usually go around 20-50GB on 3G per month and I haven't been throttled or anything.
One thing to watch out for is that speeds can be slow - Depending on where you live, you could be getting either 200kbps or 2000kbps.. A lot of markets are undergoing backhaul increase and other network vision enhancements. During this period, a lot of places can get to really low speeds. After it, however, there will probably be a consistent 1000-2000kbps everywhere on 3G.
Not to mention that they also plan to cover most of their existing 3G places with LTE by the end of 2014 so you won't have to care about speed after 2014 - It'll always be consistent LTE speeds.
Where are you located at? If you are in a good Sprint area or even better... a new LTE area... you should have switched yesterday. But I'd read into more so you not disappointed. Sprint is far better on a lot of things. But 3G speeds can be slow at times. I am a big fan of theirs.
My overall experience.
1. Sprint
2. T-Mobile
3. Verizon
4. ... any others...
5. AT&T
Lol
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I just switch two weeks ago from Verizon to Sprint because of the crap Verizon is doing.
I will say this Verizon's network and data speeds smoke Sprint's but I'm not willing to deal with Verizon's BS anymore.
I have found some places I go it takes longer for a web page to load on Sprint but nothing I can't deal with.
I even paid Verizon almost $1100.00 in ETF's for my 5 lines just to get away from them.
All in all I'm good with Sprint and so far happy I made the switch.
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Sprint would need faster data speeds to be able to actually throttle them. As it is now, its just a slight step above a 56k modem.
I'm in pretty much the same boat as bp328i. I moved from VZ to Sprint just about a month ago because of all the "Share Everything" garbage at VZ. I am fortunate in that I live near Chicago and although they have not officially rolled out 4G they are already in the testing phase so I get 4GLTE about 90% of the time. When it is up, it is great, but there are some significant "holes" in their coverage. I guess, at least while I'm here in my local area, I am pleased with Sprint and its unlimited data, etc. So I'm not sorry that I made the move.
That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I'm with you on this, if Sprint gets rid of unlimited I'll be right back to Verizon. If my only choice is a limited data plan I'll might as well have the best coverage.
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The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I think Sprint will retain its unlimited smartphone plans. But they may well crack down harder on unauthorized tethering, which is a violation of the current terms. (I hope they do.) I'll bet that since Verizon and AT&T have moved to close down their unlimited plans, the tethering pirates have migrated even more to Sprint to take advantage of the last remaining opportunity. Enforcing the contract better against abuse can keep unlimited smartphone contracts viable, and I understand the new network will provide better tools for detecting it.
Thx guys, going with Sprint. I'm already 3/4 up on my data for this month (Easytether PRO) and unlimited with Sprint is just about as much as 2GB w/VZW.
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It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I hope Sprint looks for the same thing then. I don't have a problem with people who tether now and again when in a bind, but I'm not a fan of those who tether just because they can and abuse the crap out of it. If that keeps happening, Sprint will ditch their unlimited data too, or worse, lock/encrypt bootloaders so it's tougher to root your phone and get free tethering.
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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Agreed, with Verizon, I was usually within 1-5GB depending on WiFi, I rarely exceeded 5GB, and the first time I used BitTorrent was for stock touchwiz. Those of us who use hotspot/tethering daily, Sprint seems most logical.
Technically, Verizon has no right to block 3rd party tethering apps and actually just paid out $1.25 million for trying to
Verizon Wireless To Pay $1.25 Million To Settle Investigation
Verizon Wireless offers customers its 4G LTE service on C Block spectrum. Verizon Wireless bid at
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obligations. Specifically, licensees offering service on C Block spectrum “shall not deny, limit, or restrict
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Guys, just got off the phone with Verizon to transfer my number to Sprint, they asked why, I told them I was dissatisfied with their share packages and viola, they added my old unlimited plan back, strait 4G LTE, no sharing. Just thought I'd share my mediocre victory with Verizon. If you have VZW and hate their share packages, you can try telling Verizon your swiching to Sprint and see if they let you into their unlimited grandfathered data plans

tmobile unlimited?

so does this mean goodbye sprint for most of us?...http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...ed-unthrottled-data-starting-september-5.html I noticed they are talking about this in the "why do you stick with sprint" thread so if a mod wants to delete this please do. I didn't see that b4 i started this thread.
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so does this mean goodbye sprint for most of us?...http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...ed-unthrottled-data-starting-september-5.html
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No it doesn't for me, been with sprint 10 yrs and they always seem to 1 up everyone at some point. Plus they been good to us.
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This is most likely going to get me to switch. Buy an unlocked Nexus from play store and setup on tmobile BYOD plan and buh bye Sprint.
No nexus devices. After watching ET4G ICS screw ups, I am only buying Nexus devices.
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No it doesn't for me, been with sprint 10 yrs and they always seem to 1 up everyone at some point. Plus they been good to us.
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That's my only reason I haven't switched yet. Anytime I need a payment extension they give it to me. If I have trouble with something they work with me. That means a lot to me. Now the minute they start being asses. I'll be switching for sure.
Sprints customer service is awesome compared to other companies and that's one reason why I would stay with them
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So this states no hotspot offical or unoffical... is this the same with sprint and the hacked hotspots void this? or will this be impossible with T-Mobile?
not for me as its better than tmobile for me
shame id love to get those 42mbps speeds
Raistlin1 said:
This is most likely going to get me to switch. Buy an unlocked Nexus from play store and setup on tmobile BYOD plan and buh bye Sprint.
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This is exactly what I was thinking
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Ill be sticking with sprint. T-mo only has 2G speeds where I live as compared to sprints 3G. I'm also assuming I'll eventually have sprint LTE with network vision and all.
Don't you think that when sprint's LTE network becomes live and widespread they too will throttle their unlimited data
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Don't you think that when sprint's LTE network becomes live and widespread they too will throttle their unlimited data
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Fingers crossed for being grandfathered in.
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Don't you think that when sprint's LTE network becomes live and widespread they too will throttle their unlimited data
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They won't now if tmobile keeps this plan... it's good for everyone.
This video says you won't be able to use the phone as a hotspot at all. I wonder if they'll kick you off for hacking hotspot or if it will even be possible to hack it? I love how they compare minutes but don't mention that Sprint offers "any mobile any time" which makes a world of difference. About 3,500 any mobile any time minutes a month for me.
That little missing point is "slightly" important.
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mideastbeast said:
This video says you won't be able to use the phone as a hotspot at all. I wonder if they'll kick you off for hacking hotspot or if it will even be possible to hack it? I love how they compare minutes but don't mention that Sprint offers "any mobile any time" which makes a world of difference. About 3,500 any mobile any time minutes a month for me.
That little missing point is "slightly" important.
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Hacked hotspot depends on the phone, not the carrier.
Not everyone uses that many minutes. I stay under 100 usually.
T mobile is going to acquire a lot of customers due to this. Its a great move and may actually spark some competition and bring unlimited back.
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Its a great move and may actually spark some competition and bring unlimited back.
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Agreed competition and choice are good for everyone. I hope this move also keeps the 2 big companies in check with their plans and pricing.
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Agreed competition and choice are good for everyone. I hope this move also keeps the 2 big companies in check with their plans and pricing.
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To be honest i don't think att or verizon give a damn about what anyone else does, I just hope the 2 weak sister companies can hang in there.
I get awesome 3g and 4g here at home and at school but tmo seems only 2g
But at school they have 42mbps
If they had that at home id be hell yea
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To be honest i don't think att or verizon give a damn about what anyone else does, I just hope the 2 weak sister companies can hang in there.
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ATT and Verizon will give a damn when they start losing customers to t-mobile. T-mobile actually has a good network unlike sprint.
Tmobile actually has a pretty mixed up network. Outside of major metropolitan areas all they have is 2g or roaming (or lack of it) while sprint usually has native 3g (at least) or roaming on verizon. Service also degrades rapidly when you go inside buildings compared to Sprint and VZ not to mention the fact that T-mobile has quite the lack of spectrum to deploy both LTE and HSPA42+ on its current spectrum holdings.
Literally it's a mixed bag depending on where you live and what you do most like traveling or sitting in one spot. Just remember this. Sprints Network Vision upgrade is upgrading each and every tower to fiber or microwave backend. Their speeds are guaranteed to increase. Meanwhile T-mobile lacks spectrum in a lot of places and is currently in the process of refarming to 1900mhz 3g/4g (at last!) while lte is quite a bit away.
TBH i'd only switch if youre in an area with beyond horrible service and NV upgrades coming in a year or so...Other than that... ya it's great that t-mobile is getting unlimited again although in the long run sprint will be ahead of them.
Speaking of which... i'm starting to miss my good old sidekick lx and tmobile g1...

Sprint vs Tmobile. If you could switch.

Ive been with Sprint for a year, and Ive been putting up with there slow network for a couple of months. Im trying to give Sprint a fair chance to launch LTE in my area( there suppose to start network vision this month) before I start making a decision. I have no prblem buying my device outright so Tmobiles value plan woould save me some money (no i dont want the galaxy nexus, its already last year tech and i would like to see what happens for the holiday season or how the beastly the next nexus is) and i had them before so I know how the service is in my area. My question is if some of you had a chance to switch to tmobile (or some other carrier) rite now or by the end of your contract would you switch.
Sprints in a much better position than tmobile in terms of spectrum and network upgrades. In a year or so sprint will be up there on par with Verizon. If you're in an LTE area, you have unlimited and lte.
Tmobile is good in major cities in terms of data speeds, but I think their building penetration and voice over gsm technology aren't too good. Sprint can roam on Verizon so in theory you have so much coverage.
Tmobile has unlimted data and Tmobiles future position will allow them to roam with at&t 3G/3.75G network and use unlocked devices in there network natively (since the pcs 1900 DC-HSPA+ refarm) and on top of that since their using aws for LTE they can roam on Verizons and at&t future LTE network. So, Tmobile is looking good as well, plus they could always sign with clearwire for extra bandwidth.
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Tmobile has unlimted data and Tmobiles future position will allow them to roam with at&t 3G/3.75G network and use unlocked devices in there network natively (since the pcs 1900 DC-HSPA+ refarm) and on top of that since their using aws for LTE they can roam on Verizons and at&t future LTE network. So, Tmobile is looking good as well, plus they could always sign with clearwire for extra bandwidth.
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I doubt Verizon and att will allow that lol
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They will cause the FCC is suppose to put that clause in the deal to allow Tmobile and Verizon sell/swap spectrum around.
Bump. Anybody else have thoughts?
Very tempted. 7 years with Sprint but the prospect of International unlocked phones unlimited data and no contract is attractive.
let's face it sprints data speeds suck. I've been on LTE since it went live and the coverage is too spotty to be effective. Ends up being just a faster mostly 3G experience with frequent loss of connection due to constant 1x, 3G, LTE handoff.
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I switched to T-Mobile for six months last year but I couldn't stand it. I could only get a decent signal if I was outside or near a large window. I came back to Sprint and would rather deal with "slow" speeds than have faster speeds that are severely limited by location.
I'm in the St. Louis area but if T-Mo has great coverage where you are and you can't wait for Sprint's network then you should choose maroon.
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How's TMO in Atlanta?
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washjayb said:
Very tempted. 7 years with Sprint but the prospect of International unlocked phones unlimited data and no contract is attractive.
let's face it sprints data speeds suck. I've been on LTE since it went live and the coverage is too spotty to be effective. Ends up being just a faster mostly 3G experience with frequent loss of connection due to constant 1x, 3G, LTE handoff.
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Sprint is still working in Atlanta. You'll have LTE everywhere you get 3g when it's finished. Sprint also has HD voice, which is where gsm is lacking.
LTE will have a crystal clear voice with VoLTE and IMS plus I dont care about voice quality cause i mostly text or dont use minutes at all. I mostly use data only anway.
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Sprint is still working in Atlanta. You'll have LTE everywhere you get 3g when it's finished. Sprint also has HD voice, which is where gsm is lacking.
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well in overall its a matter of choice, personally ive been with sprint for about 7 years now non-stop, yeah ive had some issues with connectivity and signal loss but very rarely...not enought to make me wanna swich to another carrier, now only reason why im still with sprint is for 3 reasons, 1 is verizon, 2 is AT&T huge desapointing networks very expensive and very limited to their service data plans. now T-mobile does have great service and cheaper plans, but u gotta pay extra just to get 4g if u wanna use it for longer times, and now that 4g LTE is coming i can garantee u that their data plan is gonna sky high up the roof, not by much but it will go up i can garantee u that. so if i had my choice betwen does 2, limited 4g LTE or unlimited 4g LTE, id still stick with sprint, ive hadnt had any issues with their CS ive actually had great customer services no problems their althought maybe 2 or 3 every now and then in a blue moon that didnt know jack sh**. i can deal with the slow 3g i barely get 1.5mb/s over here without LTE still waiting for LTE which hasnt been listen just yet in my area but comming soon. if i can listen to music on pandora, watch netflix and surf the web at decent speeds without taking 10 seconds to load a page and have any interruptions then im happy enought and can deal with it. thats why i got wifi waiting for me back home when i get there so i can download does big files that i know i wont be able to download in seconds. until LTE arrives.
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How's TMO in Atlanta?
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My Buddy gets around 10-17mbps all the time. T-Mobile in Colorado is also really really good.
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I think it's all a matter of where you live but here in ol San Antonio at least for me, Tmo suckssss! I've been with Sprint for 7 years and all I have to say is that 3g does suck compared to ATT but at least I have unlimited 4G which I use at least 5+GB's worth a month. Okay 4G is spotty but I'm only paying about $70 a month and super slow 3g is my only complaint. Mostly connected to wifi anyways and have never had a dropped call.
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I got to give a thumbs up to Sprint's customer service too. They always take care of their long-term customers or did when I was in the financial bind a few years ago.... during the Fed lockdown in arguing over unemployment for two months I never lost my cell and couldn't pay the bill for quite a while. They were great.
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How's TMO in Atlanta?
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I was with t mobile for about 7 years before I switched to Sprint. Only reason I switched, was my company put me on their plan and started to pay for the bill. That being said, I think t mobile was hands down better than Sprint. (I'm in the Atlanta area btw). T mobile had extremely better data speeds 99 percent of the time. Reception is about the same. My gf still has t mobile and I check mine vs hers all the time. Every once in a while I'll get a decent data speed, but usually t mobile is faster. If I had to pay for my own line, I would switch back to t mobile in a heart beat. Better service, better data, upgrades every year (even let me do my upgrades every 6 months if you call their customer service).
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I got to give a thumbs up to Sprint's customer service too. They always take care of their long-term customers or did when I was in the financial bind a few years ago.... during the Fed lockdown in arguing over unemployment for two months I never lost my cell and couldn't pay the bill for quite a while. They were great.
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I don't like the fact that T-Mo outsources CS jobs.
Honestly if i do decide to switch to Tmobile, i wouldnt be apposed to coming back to Sprint if I had to. (Tmobile goes bankrupt, I move and Tmobiles coverage is bad.. etc) Sprint has a god network vision strategy theyre moving slow and there wont be any real results of network vision until 2015, after most markets will be complete and they phase out iden for use of the 800mhz band for LTE-A. Also Clearwire should have a good LTE-A coverage by then.
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I was with t mobile for about 7 years before I switched to Sprint. Only reason I switched, was my company put me on their plan and started to pay for the bill. That being said, I think t mobile was hands down better than Sprint. (I'm in the Atlanta area btw). T mobile had extremely better data speeds 99 percent of the time. Reception is about the same. My gf still has t mobile and I check mine vs hers all the time. Every once in a while I'll get a decent data speed, but usually t mobile is faster. If I had to pay for my own line, I would switch back to t mobile in a heart beat. Better service, better data, upgrades every year (even let me do my upgrades every 6 months if you call their customer service).
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if that is true that t-mobile does have better service and better data, then whats stopping u from switching back to t-mobile, despite that ure company is paying for sprints service, that shouldnt stop yah from switching...the fact of the matter is...if u really wanted to switch to t-mobile u would have and just spent that money out of ure pocket, im sure u earn well enought to pay for it on ure own, other whize u wouldnt be saying that. as for upgrades u can also do ure upgrades every year with sprint as well.

Data cap Rumor

I was in tmobile when I switched from att and a representative told me that if I unlocked my s4 I wouldn't be affected by the data speed cap on the unlimited data plan, is that true? (Im on a verizon rom atm)
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I was in tmobile when I switched from att and a representative told me that if I unlocked my s4 I wouldn't be affected by the data speed cap on the unlimited data plan, is that true? (Im on a verizon rom atm)
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If there is such a data cap throttle then it's a rumor. I use approximately 10 gigs. And never reach any throttle
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Ive used 75gb this month with no throttle whatsoever.
You get throttled on unlimited data after 9,999gb.
Friend that works at T Mobile said that.
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I've just realized that tmobile messed up our plan when I signed for unlimited I got the 2.5 gb of data, sorry mistake on my part. I should have had unlimited to begin with.
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Rumor has it.............
Most likely propaganda put out by other carriers, and double agents posing as reps working for T-Mobile stores
No 4G LTE data throttling here. Last month used 42gb
When I hit 9,999GB, I'll let ya know lol!
So if you have the 4G unlimited you wont get throttled but if you get lets say the 2gig data plan and go over you will right?
im getting T-Mobile since ATT rapes you with data charges and stuff.
i want to know how slow will you get throttled down?
2G or 3G??
i wouldnt mind 3G... its unlimited so who cares but if they go all the way down to 2G then might as well get the 4G unlimited right?
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So if you have the 4G unlimited you wont get throttled but if you get lets say the 2gig data plan and go over you will right?
im getting T-Mobile since ATT rapes you with data charges and stuff.
i want to know how slow will you get throttled down?
2G or 3G??
i wouldnt mind 3G... its unlimited so who cares but if they go all the way down to 2G then might as well get the 4G unlimited right?
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I'm unsure about the 2G, 3G but for $20/mo. for Unlimited 4G LTE, you can't go wrong.
I left Sprint after 14 years, a few months or so ago because their data speeds sucked where I was, and LTE was non existent, in addition to always dropping voice calls, and getting really tired of their empty promises and excuses. I went over to Verizon for a few months knowing that they crap on you with their data pricing, but I had heard negative things about T-Mobile, and Atnt would be like Verizon re pricing. I decided to check out T-Mobile for myself because the negative comments were from a while ago, and Verizon was crapping all over me with their outrageous pricing.
So I went into a T-Mobile store, purchased an S4 to try out in the real world for their 14 day trial period, and after 2 days, ported over.
In my experience, T-Mobile has been the best regarding their plan pricing.
Coverage for the areas I frequent has been excellent, and that is what is most important. Once you see you have excellent coverage, T-Mobile is a done deal
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So if you have the 4G unlimited you wont get throttled but if you get lets say the 2gig data plan and go over you will right?
im getting T-Mobile since ATT rapes you with data charges and stuff.
i want to know how slow will you get throttled down?
2G or 3G??
i wouldnt mind 3G... its unlimited so who cares but if they go all the way down to 2G then might as well get the 4G unlimited right?
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It goes down to 2G I had the 2GB and I went over... so slow... but now I have the unlimited 4g lte. Im at 28 gigs no throttle
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I'm unsure about the 2G, 3G but for $20/mo. for Unlimited 4G LTE, you can't go wrong.
I left Sprint after 14 years, a few months or so ago because their data speeds sucked where I was, and LTE was non existent, in addition to always dropping voice calls, and getting really tired of their empty promises and excuses. I went over to Verizon for a few months knowing that they crap on you with their data pricing, but I had heard negative things about T-Mobile, and Atnt would be like Verizon re pricing. I decided to check out T-Mobile for myself because the negative comments were from a while ago, and Verizon was crapping all over me with their outrageous pricing.
So I went into a T-Mobile store, purchased an S4 to try out in the real world for their 14 day trial period, and after 2 days, ported over.
In my experience, T-Mobile has been the best regarding their plan pricing.
Coverage for the areas I frequent has been excellent, and that is what is most important. Once you see you have excellent coverage, T-Mobile is a done deal
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Yeah im upgrading to an S4 (from an s3 on ATT) and getting the Mrs an S4 as well (from an iPhone on Sprint)
ATT coverage is good, but damn 200$ a month alone with ATT with limited data and with dropped calls and crappy service/coverage from sprint
we had enough lol
with 210$ i can have the two lines on T-Mo with unlimited 4G LTE (Since Phoenix is covered :good: ) ........yeah im switching now as i type lol
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Yeah im upgrading to an S4 (from an s3 on ATT) and getting the Mrs an S4 as well (from an iPhone on Sprint)
ATT coverage is good, but damn 200$ a month alone with ATT with limited data and with dropped calls and crappy service/coverage from sprint
we had enough lol
with 210$ i can have the two lines on T-Mo with unlimited 4G LTE (Since Phoenix is covered :good: ) ........yeah im switching now as i type lol
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Even though the map says your covered, you really have to try out the service in the areas you most frequent, either with someone else's S4 (which you may have done already) or during your trial period. But I'm sure you're already aware of that.
I go with the carrier with the best coverage and pricing that will benefit me the most.
I gotta say that if T-Mobile continues on the path they are now regarding overage, plans, pricing, etc., I'd like to see them pull more Verizon, Atnt, and Sprint customers away from their carriers.
The T-Mobile of today is not the T-Mobile of yesterday, and that's the albatross they have to shake off, but I think they're well on their way.
I think they're already shaking up the industry with their no contract plans, upgrading availability 2x a year, etc, as the other carriers are following their lead.
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Even though the map says your covered, you really have to try out the service in the areas you most frequent, either with someone else's S4 (which you may have done already) or during your trial period. But I'm sure you're already aware of that.
I go with the carrier with the best coverage and pricing that will benefit me the most.
I gotta say that if T-Mobile continues on the path they are now regarding overage, plans, pricing, etc., I'd like to see them pull more Verizon, Atnt, and Sprint customers away from their carriers.
The T-Mobile of today is not the T-Mobile of yesterday, and that's the albatross they have to shake off, but I think they're well on their way.
I think they're already shaking up the industry with their no contract plans, upgrading availability 2x a year, etc, as the other carriers are following their lead.
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I will give the trial period a chance but im more than sure ill stay with T-Mo.
i do agree T-Mo isnt what it used to be. Back then there was so much negativity, and bat talk about it, but it seems like theyre on a better track
and the whole no contract is a plus!

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