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The Nexus S had a completely black screen - at night black was no different that if it was switched off. My GN appears to have slight screen glow in the backs. However, I thought they were both SAMOLED screens? Presume I am wrong? Can anyone explain?
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I noticed the same thing. I just assumed that not all sAMOLED screens are equal, and that the change in resolution could have been a cause. Maybe Samsung wasn't able to perfect it. Just speculation
It is pretty close though.
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I was expecting this too and was a little dissapointed, was looking forward to having my night clock on and the only light coming from the screen to be the clock text but the whole screen has a slight glow to it
Same here, I wonder why is it like that. No bragging of true black anymore. Feels like step backwards.
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jpalo said:
Same here, I wonder why is it like that. No bragging of true black anymore. Feels like step backwards.
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The screen does do true black.
It's just the wallpaper isn't turned to black, it's made very dim.
The "slight glow" is the dim wallpaper if you look carefully.
Hmm, I made own 1x1 black picture for background. Still it isn't true black.
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The same here, not nearly as black as my old Galaxy S
The blacks look black as black to me.
Mine seems pretty black. I've only had a Vibrant with SAMOLED before, and I think this is equivalent if not better. Sadly, I've got a small weird green dent on the pixels on the second quadrant though...
I've noticed this too. Definately not as dark as my Galaxy S2 was.
My blacks look as good as my GS2's did to my eye. When you guys open up the app drawer, it's not totally black behind the icons? I can't make out bezel or screen with blacks.
I've also noticed that the blacks aren't as black as on my Galaxy S. The blackness on the GS was even more noticeable since every colour displayed is eye-burstingly vivid. I do miss the true black but at least the general display is nicer on the GN than the GS.
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I just used the night display mode on Gentle Alarm.
I put the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 side-by-side.
The Nexus definitely has a noticeable backlight compared to the S2.
jasbur17 said:
I just used the night display mode on Gentle Alarm.
I put the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 side-by-side.
The Nexus definitely has a noticeable backlight compared to the S2.
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Well the nexus doesn't use any backlight. Which is odd because there is a definite glow, I wonder if some screen tuning can remove it
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Nigel Tufnel: It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.
I hate black screens I only like white ones....yea i said it!
My screen is as dark as midnight and is peferectly fine with me.
Can people please who say screen is completely black test the clock app in night mode in a perfectly dark place. I have a feeling this is not only in some of the phones but in all. Will contact support to verify this.
I think the black tint on the glass isn't as dark as it was on the nexus s. At least that's how it looks on my gnex.
When the screen is on for an AMOLED display, it's not "true black". If I remember correctly, there's a minimum voltage applied when the screen is on. Otherwise it would draw more power to switch the pixels from fully off to on. In other words, the GN might have some slightly different minimum voltage.
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Can people please who say screen is completely black test the clock app in night mode in a perfectly dark place. I have a feeling this is not only in some of the phones but in all. Will contact support to verify this.
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As mentioned earlier, the clock app doesn't use a pure black background. Rather, it uses an dark overlay over your wallpaper.
Also, the default background for apps has been changed to one that isn't pure black
So my Note 2 and some others are experiencing dull and yellowish white contrast as talked about in this POST. Also this POST shows the Note 2 being much brighter. We've tested this with both units on high brightness and dynamic mode on, with the browser brightness all the way up as well. I even did a hard reset, and the low brightness dingy whites are still there on the Note 2. I'm looking into returning the phone for a replacement through the AT&T store I bought it from. Most people don't have this problem on their Note 2's so it seems like its only affecting a few units, but we need to get this out in the open. Maybe there are two different panel types shipping out. Please check and compare your Note 2's white's brightness compared to other Note 2's and other original notes and report here.
I'm also seeing the same dirty white screen. I might go to the local AT&T store to compare it with another Note 2 if they have a demo unit. If anyone can do this and get side by side comparisons I'd like to see this. I hesitate to do a replacement because they are probably only going to offer a refurbished unit as a replacement and the chances are it's going to be another unit with the same issue.
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I'm also seeing the same dirty white screen. I might go to the local AT&T store to compare it with another Note 2 if they have a demo unit. If anyone can do this and get side by side comparisons I'd like to see this. I hesitate to do a replacement because they are probably only going to offer a refurbished unit as a replacement and the chances are it's going to be another unit with the same issue.
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The AT&T store said they would order me a new one. When I called customer care (611) they would only offer a refurbished phone. So stick to the exchanging it at the store. The store I bought it from doesn't have any more in stock but are willing to order me a new one.
You know what stop comparing note 2 to other screens. Every screen has different color calibration and software versions effect this.
My first phone was galaxy s1 and the screen seemed fine since I had no other phone to compare but I compared to my ipod touch 2nd gen. Sgs1 had blue tint. Then I got sgs2 and the screen was very purplish compared to my friends sgs2.
I was obsessed to get the perfect screen so I changed it 5 times. 1 for the dead pixel and 2nd for the white spot on tje screen and the last 3 for the purplish hue. 3rd phone was really purple and obviously something was wrong. And I checked all the phones that are on display in various stores they had yellowish hue. But still compared to sgs1 it had warmer whites. Now I have note 2 and I recently put all 4 of them side by side and compared.
Sgs1: cool blue tint, looks very unnatural.
Sgs2: has a red hue compared to sgs1 but still looks not as warm (red) compared to itouch.
Note2: compared to sgs1&sgs2 it has a warmer white, much much better color balance of them all. However compared to itouch I realized it has a yellow hue.
BUT!!!! I compared it to my laptop's white and 40" lcd tv's white, note 2 still as not yellow as my laptop and tv.
If I were you I would try to enjoy the phone instead of comparing it unless its an obvious defect. Each screen is different and has to be calibrated. Its just means the calibration is different then other devices.
I have to admit, when I compared note 2 to itouch I was surprised by the yellow hue but I am not gonna go and change it again. Not every 2 screen is the same.
Think that your "note2 doesnt have a yellow hue" , maybe its your old note has a blue hue?
Also if you tilt the screen and look it from different angles you will see yellow hue disappear. I had the exact same thing on sgs2. You have to live with it. I am %100 sure even if you change 5 times you will end up with the same problem.
Wow fukn bs yellow ****
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warfanax said:
Also if you tilt the screen and look it from different angles you will see yellow hue disappear. I had the exact same thing on sgs2. You have to live with it. I am %100 sure even if you change 5 times you will end up with the same problem.
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warfanax is pretty right I went and exchanged it today for another note 2 and it looks the same an 4 units tested in store, all had warm whites....so that being said the OG note still has a brighter "looking"screen and brighter whites even if they are blue it gives the appearance of being brighter. Oh well, I'll live with it for the quad core and 2 gigs of ram though. Cant have everything...
I don't have the programming knowledge but don't think an app that changes screen colors is very hard to make. Some kind of color boost is already included in our phones in display section.
There was an app like that for sgs1 that let you tweak RGB colors.
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I don't have the programming knowledge but don't think an app that changes screen colors is very hard to make. Some kind of color boost is already included in our phones in display section.
There was an app like that for sgs1 that let you tweak RGB colors.
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Like this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
Futant55 said:
Like this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
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Thanks for the link but that app only washed the screen out with the contrast adjustment. It washed out the black levels. I just realized that I'm running Paranoid Android on my original Note and under Settings>Display there is an option for filtering and dimness. Its set to (20) by default. If I lower the number to like 10 it then matches my note 2's screen brightness at 100%. Its as if this Paranoid Android setting makes the back light on the Note 1 put out brighter (while killing battery life I'm sure) while still keeping the black levels black. Could this setting be what is making my note look brighter than my note 2 and can settings like those be applied with a new rom or an app on the Note 2?
I exchanged out my Grey GN2 for a white version for another defect issue yesterday and the screen on this new phone is definitely whiter. I'm happy, but I agree with others that the yellowish screen was probably due to normal manufacturing tolerance variations.
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I'm within my 14 day window so I'm going to go to the ATT store and compare mine to another GN2 and if mines deficient I'll have them replace it. Will post back with results in a few days.
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So I got a Galaxy S lying around and decided to compare their screens. Note 2 screen is not as bright as Galaxy S and the colour is not exactly white:
Both screens are at maximum brightness and I've tried all 4 Tone settings of Note 2 under Display settings.
Do you think that is a defect and a good reason to return the phone?
I did some testing and concluded that it's only the white colour that looks washed out and with a hint of pink. I've tested with Galaxy S, iPhone 4 & Nokia 5800 and Note 2 looks the best in my eyes. What do you think?
100% Brightness. Note 2 Screen Mode = Standard. Auto Adjust screen tone = OFF
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No I don't, maybe those brightness & color differences are sort of tweaks to reduce battery consumption
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DADER said:
No I don't, maybe those brightness & color differences are sort of tweaks to reduce battery consumption
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I would be happy if anyone can post comparison shots, so I don't feel bad about my phone
You'll see a big improvement in the Note 2 screen if you go to Settings>Display>Auto Adjust Screen Tone and then uncheck the box
Already done that - still not as bright and white as Galaxy S.
Your pics didn't show up earlier, but looking at them now that's a massive difference!
My suggestion would be to take it to a shop and compare with a few others.
I don't have any other Samsung phones to compare mine too but I do think it goes brighter than that, and looks less pink.
I did some testing and concluded that it's only the white colour that looks washed out and with a hint of pink. I've tested with Galaxy S, iPhone 4 & Nokia 5800 and Note 2 looks the best in my eyes. What do you think?
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Well pal, I don't have good camera atm to take a shot of my screen and my iP 5's. But I can surely say that the 'white' colour in Note II is NOT white, while it is perfectly fine on my iP 5. My previous Samsung was a Galaxy S II and it wasn't white too. But I had a Samsung Wave S8500, which had perfectly fine 'white'. I don't know what's Samsung is doing lately but whatever it is I don't like it.
PS: Just one thing you could do, just tilt the phone screen at 45º angle with your eyes and see, you will see the max white from your Note 2, which isn't the case if you look at it from a 90º angle, like you did on those photos.
This is why I use Screen Adjuster and Blue to +7, I like bluish white lot more than yellowish or pinkish white.
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Well pal, I don't have good camera atm to take a shot of my screen and my iP 5's. But I can surely say that the 'white' colour in Note II is NOT white, while it is perfectly fine on my iP 5. My previous Samsung was a Galaxy S II and it wasn't white too. But I had a Samsung Wave S8500, which had perfectly fine 'white'. I don't know what's Samsung is doing lately but whatever it is I don't like it.
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I'm going to a shopping mall tomorrow to compare it with 2-3 other Notes and if I see a difference I'll just get a new one from my operator - they were more than happy to exchange.
jujuburi said:
PS: Just one thing you could do, just tilt the phone screen at 45º angle with your eyes and see, you will see the max white from your Note 2, which isn't the case if you look at it from a 90º angle, like you did on those photos.
This is why I use Screen Adjuster and Blue to +7, I like bluish white lot more than yellowish or pinkish white.
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Yeah I noticed that too - watching it at an angle makes the white look better. maybe it's just how the screen was designed. Who knows. One thing is sure - in one month I won't notice anything, cause I'll just get used to the colour representation.
am i the only one that is noticing this? while its not as apparent as it was on t989, this phone seems to have blobs, vertical lines and other screen defects
link to the issue thread for t989
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
ive went through 2 phones(one had physical defect) and both had this issue, so im going to guess its probably pretty widespread.
anyone wanna check their phones for these as well?
since blobs, lines are not acceptable on a 600dollar phone like this
To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
Mine has a small line but it's like dead in the middle of the screen.
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RTFOP said:
Mine has a small line but it's like dead in the middle of the screen.
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mine too, only 3 small blobs, and a line
the thing with these screens is that the oleds are controlled by a voltage regulator, and when you turn the brightness down the voltage regulator can't neccearily provide enough voltage to the screen, which causes the issue we have
i was hoping samsung would have fixed this issue by now..its a surprise that they havnt
just to add
this is the kind of technology samsung needs;
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/ignis-technology-overview/ignis-maxlife-technology
and
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/ignis-technology-overview/intelligent-pixel
AznDud333 said:
am i the only one that is noticing this? while its not as apparent as it was on t989, this phone seems to have blobs, vertical lines and other screen defects
link to the issue thread for t989
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
ive went through 2 phones(one had physical defect) and both had this issue, so im going to guess its probably pretty widespread.
anyone wanna check their phones for these as well?
since blobs, lines are not acceptable on a 600dollar phone like this
To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
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People call it black crush it's known for anoled screens https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0.89.255.3.3.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.sJaoi5a2zrQ
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deeznutz1977 said:
People call it black crush it's known for anoled screens https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0.89.255.3.3.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.sJaoi5a2zrQ
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No, this is not black crush, the blobs and vertical lines are something else.
blackcrush does exist for these phones, but mura and vertical lines exists as well.
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To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
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Real life you sit around in a dark closet looking at a grey screen? Maybe your being a little too critical? Just enjoy the damn phone. It rocks!
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danr238 said:
Real life you sit around in a dark closet looking at a grey screen? Maybe your being a little too critical? Just enjoy the damn phone. It rocks!
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i wish i could
having had an T989(tmo gs2)
initially the screen looks like what we have now
just look again in a year, the lines will become so apparent that youd want to smash your phone
in either case, it would bother a lot of people when they us their phone at night.
not to mention that this is a 600dollar device, it needs to be flawless!
AznDud333 said:
i wish i could
having had an T989(tmo gs2)
initially the screen looks like what we have now
just look again in a year, the lines will become so apparent that youd want to smash your phone
in either case, it would bother a lot of people when they us their phone at night.
not to mention that this is a 600dollar device, it needs to be flawless!
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Nothing lasts forever. Get that through your head and you'll live a happier life.
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llustig said:
Nothing lasts forever. Get that through your head and you'll live a happier life.
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nothing does indeed, which is why im glad my credit card gave me a 2 year warranty on this phone
in either case, ive posted this so people are aware that this issue exists, should they take action against samsung
The 1st unit I had were free of dark lines; but I am confident that it had the mura effect as well but was much harder to find since the dots were concentrated on the edges (near the bezel) of the display; if you look carefully at all the T-Mobile note 2's, they all have the AMOLED issue. I did notice on my first unit extremely faint stains throughout the display just like in the demo unit (in black background), but the lines were not there and hardly any dots. However, the whites on my 1st unit were somewhat dull, not as bright as the demo unit at the store, and had a yellow tint on the 2nd half of the display, and a light pinkish hue to some extent at the center of the display in a full white background, and also had faint horizontal lines (only when looked carefully) at lowest brightness in a white background (which became worse and more prominent over time).
My 2nd unit, though it does have a 1cm black line in the middle of the display, with 3 or 4 dots on the top and bottom left of the display, the whites are true whites, and the display is much brighter than the 1st unit I had. No yellow tint to be found, no pinkish hue, and no faint horizontal lines at low brightness and white background! Surprisingly, the color and brightness uniformity are flawless on my 2nd Note 2 (throughout the display, white is white, even brightness) , compared to the '3' Galaxy S2's, '1' Note 1, and 1st Note 2 I owned in the past. Best of all, the build quality on my 2nd unit is also better, no squeaking bezel or back cover, and hardly any blemishes on the bezel. The light which was leaking through the home button is almost gone after a couple of weeks of use.
So far, it seems like my 2nd Note 2 is a safe and clear winner; really hard to find a unitform AMOLED display these days and my 2nd Note 2 just so has one.
Why send something back as a result of finding the slightest chance of a mura effect when you might get something worse in return.
Like many say on the forum, "I guess you can't get it all."
I was considering buying the Galaxy Note 8 brown/black color. But when compared to the white version, the screen is not as bright. For the same brightness level (say 100% or 50%), the black/brown Galaxy Note 8 looks darker. And that is not a perceptive illusion of white border.
I had four sales people at Best Buy attest to that (including the Samsung representative at the store).
Don't know why. And how to correct the problem.
Unless you're planning at running at full brightness all the time, it shouldn't really matter
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I wasn't aware of it
It depends of the unit i think, i ve seen 2 white ones side by side, one is brighter and has whiter whites, and the other less bright with more yellow looking whites.
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It depends of the unit i think, i ve seen 2 white ones side by side, one is brighter and has whiter whites, and the other less bright with more yellow looking whites.
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Are you sure one of them wasn't using the reading mode?
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Are you sure one of them wasn't using the reading mode?
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No, they where both at same settings and brightness, i bought a second one because the first had dead pixels and noticed the difference instantly.
I ve seen this with 2 S4 too, same color,