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[Q] Root Incredible 3?

Is it possible to Root the Dinc 3? If not yet can one reasonably expect a solution anytime soon or has Verizon found a way to cripple this (for me at least) mission critical modification>
Thanks

It hasn't been rooted..im sure if/when it's released, probably q1 or q2 of 2012 someone will end up finding out how to root it.
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hmm didnt know the DInc 3 has been released yet lol

maplewood said:
Is it possible to Root the Dinc 3? If not yet can one reasonably expect a solution anytime soon or has Verizon found a way to cripple this (for me at least) mission critical modification>
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Could I get a link to the Inc3? The Inc 2 just came out...
Oh maybe you meant the Moto Droid 3. wrong forum bud.

HTC announced in May that they will no longer be locking their boot loaders so when and if a dinc 3 does come out it shouldn't be a problem.

pharpe said:
HTC announced in May that they will no longer be locking their boot loaders so when and if a dinc 3 does come out it shouldn't be a problem.
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Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. Besides that, OP is completely oblivious to what he's even talking about.

cheez99 said:
Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. Besides that, OP is completely oblivious to what he's even talking about.
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Exactly what I thought. What is this kid talking about?
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Zalatorisaurus said:
Exactly what I thought. What is this kid talking about?
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Isn't it obvious? He's from the future and letting us know there's a DINC3, and that we should get working on it to get it rooted before it actually comes out! Brilliant! Thank you time-travling man!

carngeX said:
Isn't it obvious? He's from the future and letting us know there's a DINC3, and that we should get working on it to get it rooted before it actually comes out! Brilliant! Thank you time-travling man!
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From the very distant land of 2012? I would place my money on him being psychic rather than from the future that's just crazy talkin.
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carngeX said:
Isn't it obvious? He's from the future and letting us know there's a DINC3, and that we should get working on it to get it rooted before it actually comes out! Brilliant! Thank you time-travling man!
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^ I laughed out loud at work ^
...but isn't the device needed to test various root exploits...?

RMarkwald said:
^ I laughed out loud at work ^
...but isn't the device needed to test various root exploits...?
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Maybe future-man can get us a DINC3 .

carngeX said:
Maybe future-man can get us a DINC3 .
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Well, there's proof right there that the world doesn't end in 2012!!! Thanks future-man!! Send me a Dinc 3 too!!!

cheez99 said:
Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. Besides that, OP is completely oblivious to what he's even talking about.
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Unlocked bootloader = Root. Once u unlock the bootloader you can put whatever you want onto your phone, i.e. clockwork mod and rooted roms.
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Unlocked bootloader does NOT equal root
I.E Moto phones with locked bootloaders that can be rooted.

k_nivesout said:
Unlocked bootloader does NOT equal root
I.E Moto phones with locked bootloaders that can be rooted.
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If u unlock the bootloader you can almost guarantee root, because you can flash whatever you want. Therefore unlocked bootloader = root...
You are right though, root does not = unlocked bootloader.
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Unlocked bootloader is so you can put custom recovery and flash images. Root is having su permissions in Android OS.

carngeX said:
Unlocked bootloader is so you can put custom recovery and flash images. Root is having su permissions in Android OS.
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I know this...my point is that getting root after HTC unlocks the bootloader will be as easy as flashing a custom recovery and a rom with su. There shouldn't be any need to find exploits to gain root.
Ex.
Fastboot oem unlock
Flash clockwork from bootloader
Wipe and flash custom Rom of choice.
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Aren't the only devices that can be "fastboot OEM unlock"ed developer devices like the nexus and xoom? I know that other devices that don't have encrypted bootloaders can usually be rooted easily but I thought it was still more of a process than a simple ADB command.

k_nivesout said:
Aren't the only devices that can be "fastboot OEM unlock"ed developer devices like the nexus and xoom? I know that other devices that don't have encrypted bootloaders can usually be rooted easily but I thought it was still more of a process than a simple ADB command.
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If HTC really allows people to unlock their device, that might be one possible method they use. Personally I think they will try and find someway to permanently mark the bootloaders are unlocked so they can make sure the carriers can void warrenties (Much like the Nexus One had a picture of a lock to show if you unlocked your bootloader). I'm sure everyone read it but here's HTC's latest status update. http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084

It'll be interesting to see what they do. Realistically, they could just leak the unlockable bootloaders and the good folks here on xda would take care of the rest..
It would be disappointing to me if they included some sort of warranty voiding measure as I don't see why the warranty wouldn't still apply to the hardware.

why is rooting so hard

i've given up can't do this rooting thing.is there any reason why you can't just download a app to do the root

welshandy2322 said:
i've given up can't do this rooting thing.is there any reason why you can't just download a app to do the root
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You'd need an exploit in ICS 4.0.3 itself to do that and we don't currently have one.

Tiersten said:
You'd need an exploit in ICS 4.0.3 itself to do that and we don't currently have one.
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lol...please NO!! brainwash
you cant do root here easy way because HTC doesnt wont us to do so. ... thats all and simple as that. with another brands like samsung is the process short and easy. blaim HTC ...
android is open source... ICS 4.0.3 its not the problem at all!

If you really want root follow the tutorial at htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader and then follow one of the tutorials on how to install a custom rom (those are basically always rooted)... I'd wait for an S-OFF though.

Some pretty useful guides in Development section...
I found them fairly straight forward with no hi-cups along the way.
Always prefer a challenge over a click of a button

Well for me I would like to root, but I dont want to loose warranty. Altough I want to get rid of soe annoying apps HTC brought with the phone like flickr and 7digital.

You will get back your warrenty if you un-root your phone.
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AFX21 said:
Well for me I would like to root, but I dont want to loose warranty. Altough I want to get rid of soe annoying apps HTC brought with the phone like flickr and 7digital.
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You can disable them in the application list from Settings. That's what i've done.

Hunteres said:
lol...please NO!! brainwash
you cant do root here easy way because HTC doesnt wont us to do so. ... thats all and simple as that. with another brands like samsung is the process short and easy. blaim HTC ...
android is open source... ICS 4.0.3 its not the problem at all!
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Not sure what you're on but you can't root a Samsung phone from inside Android without using an exploit which is exactly the same as HTC and what the OP was asking for. You need to restart the Samsung and put it into the bootloader same as on a HTC.

Sikiduck said:
You will get back your warrenty if you un-root your phone.
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Not if you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, they keep a log of your device, regardless if you re-lock it.
They'll still replace your device if it's a hardware problem though.

Meltus said:
Not if you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, they keep a log of your device, regardless if you re-lock it.
They'll still replace your device if it's a hardware problem though.
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As long as you revert back to stock rom and flash stock recovery you should be fine. Don't see the need to relock as it'll just show unlocked what signs will we have that we've flashed a custom firmware? On SGS devices we had a count number but using a jig we could wipe this back to zero and return to complete stock.

To Root or not to root

Ok so I did do some search and would like to clear up 3 questions please.
1. If I root then the device is still stock (unless I change other things ) but stock is fine. I only want to root it to use this guide:
http://www.guidingtech.com/10821/disable-3-three-dot-menu-htc-one-x-map-to-task-switcher-button/
and get those annoying 3 dots away from my screen
2. If I root will my warranty still be in tact?
3. If I root will I still get updates that I can install from HTC themselfs?
Off my own topic but regarding the upgrade. My phone was imported from Singapore to South Africa because our service products SUCK!!! The update will still come from the South African service provider correct? Don't even know if they will bring one out anyway so...
ps: I have an HTC One X
Thanks guys

Rooting will in theory void the warranty. But you can always unroot to get warranty back. BUT because that you are unlocking your bootloader, you are also voiding your warranty, completely.
There is no way (as of now) to get back to a state, where you have warranty, from an unlocked bootloader.
Only way to root and "keep" warranty, is it either get S-OFF, or find an exploit so the devs can make an easy program like GingerBreak, to root your phone.
Yes, as long as you are on a stock rom, you will get updates, but I don't know if you will loose root that way. I don't think so, but I am not sure.

you only void the warranty if you unlock from htcdev if for example the software you flash on your phone cause an issue with the motherboard for example like overclocking and such. if you have a hardware issue like a broken screen then you are still under warranty. someone correct me if i am wrong..that is kinda the feeling i am getting by reading through the forum

soooo glad I posted it Just registered an account on HTCDev Not gonna do it that way
Ok, can anyone please let me know how to get rid of those 3 dots then I hate being in a app and it reduces the screen for the dots.

You can't without unlocking and rooting your phone

Use this to root, without unlocking your bootloader.
EDIT: Link removed for now.. Not sure if it is working on the Tegra 3 version.
EDIT 2: You guys just have to wait a few hours! Root is on its way!

From the conversation i had with the online tech support at HTC they said that my warranty would be void if i used the unlocking tool at HTCdev.
I even specifically asked if hardware faults would still be covered and he still said no.

emperact said:
Use this to root, without unlocking your bootloader.
EDIT: Link removed for now.. Not sure if it is working on the Tegra 3 version.
EDIT 2: You guys just have to wait a few hours! Root is on its way!
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Ok cool... Please can you update with a link when it's working
Thanks a lot guys

http://www.modaco.com/topic/353986-...t-unlocking-the-bootloader-windows-mac-linux/
Working now enjoy
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hapticc said:
http://www.modaco.com/topic/353986-...t-unlocking-the-bootloader-windows-mac-linux/
Working now enjoy
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Looks like there's a problem when you use it from a Windows system??

hapticc said:
http://www.modaco.com/topic/353986-...t-unlocking-the-bootloader-windows-mac-linux/
Working now enjoy
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If by "Working now" you mean, "hasn't worked for a single person that's replied", then yeah.
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[Q] I've some questions before Rooting my first Android phone

Hi all, ..
I've decided to root my One X but before that I want to know some things and ask some questions:-
1- What are all the side effects for unlocking the bootloader & rooting the device ??
2- After we root the device could we return the phone as it came exactly from the factroy ?? means locked again .. no root .. all side effects will disappear ??
3- What are the difference between Hboot & Bootloader ??
4- Are Kernal & Boot Image are exactly the same ??
5- What is Fastboot exactly ??
Sorry for my questions but it the first time I'll root my phone so I want to take care
And thanks in advance

Please .. Any help !!

omar_bazaraa said:
Hi all, ..
I've decided to root my One X but before that I want to know some things and ask some questions:-
1- What are all the side effects for unlocking the bootloader & rooting the device ??
2- After we root the device could we return the phone as it came exactly from the factroy ?? means locked again .. no root .. all side effects will disappear ??
3- What are the difference between Hboot & Bootloader ??
4- Are Kernal & Boot Image are exactly the same ??
5- What is Fastboot exactly ??
Sorry for my questions but it the first time I'll root my phone so I want to take care
And thanks in advance
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1 - There are no side effects that come from rooting the phone, the side effects can arise when you flash a dirty rom, but thats the joys of rooting I guess. Trying different roms/kernels until you find the combination you love.
2- After rooting, you cannot go completely back. Instead of your bootloader saying Locked, it will say RE-Locked, so they will know something is up. But apparantly if the issue is hardware caused, such as the WiFi issue, then I think they still repair under warranty.
3 - To be honest I can't answer that one, im sorry !
4 - No they are not the same, a Kernel is what communicates with the hardware, and passes that information back to the software and vice versa. Without the kernel, the hardware/software would have no way of communicating.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5534201226_7e7d2d90eb_b.jpg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
5 - Fastboot is how you modify your bootloader, which is how you flash the boot.img in order to not make the phone bootloop when installing a custom rom.
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Hi the only bad side effects are if you do something wrong
You can return back to stock usein ruu's but not back to locked
Ye a boot.IMG is a kernel and I no of some noob friendly tools to help you unlock and fastboot kernels without having to do it manual wich helps
If you won't help through all the steps I'm welcome to help
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So, actually, the boot.img is a binary file, that contains the kernel and the ramdisk.

mmmmmmm I'm now confused !!
According to:-
1- I know the rooting will make the warranty gone and also I won't be able to update OTA !! so how to avoid these problems
2- There are difference between Locked & Relocked ?? And if I relocked my phone the warranty will come back & I'll be able to update OTA ??
3- No one had answered me !!
4- I have three different answeres !!
5- I still don't know the meaning of Fastboot
And thanks to every one who had answered .. +1 thanks to every one
And I hope thant you answer me ...

omar_bazaraa said:
mmmmmmm I'm now confused !!
According to:-
1- I know the rooting will make the warranty gone and also I won't be able to update OTA !! so how to avoid these problems
2- There are difference between Locked & Relocked ?? And if I relocked my phone the warranty will come back & I'll be able to update OTA ??
3- No one had answered me !!
4- I have three different answeres !!
5- I still don't know the meaning of Fastboot
And thanks to every one who had answered .. +1 thanks to every one
And I hope thant you answer me ...
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1/2) You can unlock to install OTA. Even if you lose warranty, you are usually protected by consumer law in your country.
3) Spelling
4) I'm right, if you keep asking, you'll have 4 answers
5) Fastboot is a setting that allows you to more quickly boot your phone. It also breaks some apps.
5) Fastboot is a tool for flashing bootloader and recovery on your phone, as well as other diagnostic tasks.

BenPope said:
1/2) You can unlock to install OTA. Even if you lose warranty, you are usually protected by consumer law in your country.
3) Spelling
4) I'm right, if you keep asking, you'll have 4 answers
5) Fastboot is a setting that allows you to more quickly boot your phone. It also breaks some apps.
5) Fastboot is a tool for flashing bootloader and recovery on your phone, as well as other diagnostic tasks.
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1- Means that the warranty won't come back ??
2- What are the difference between Locked & Relocked ?? or it's just spelling difference ??
3- Okay
4- hahahaha .. Okay
5- I know fastboot the setting but fastboot the tool I want to know it more & more .. why we need to flash bootloader & recovery even that we have it .. and how we flash the bootloader even that the fastboot mode we get it from the bootloader (Hboot) !!
+1 for your help

there is no difference between locked and relocked. Relocked means you had unlocked the bootloader and Now htc knows about it.
You can not flash custom roms from stock recovery, Since there is no option to flash the zip files. For that you need to install CWM

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there is no difference between locked and relocked. Relocked means you had unlocked the bootloader and Now htc knows about it.
You can not flash custom roms from stock recovery, Since there is no option to flash the zip files. For that you need to install CWM
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Is there any problems when HTC knows that this phone has relocked the bootloader again ?? could I unlock & relock my phone may times without problems ??
What about the warranty ?? I'll lose it even after relocking my phone ??

omar_bazaraa said:
Is there any problems when HTC knows that this phone has relocked the bootloader again ?? could I unlock & relock my phone may times without problems ??
What about the warranty ?? I'll lose it even after relocking my phone ??
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Yes there is a problem.. by unlocking the bootloader you may void your warranty. By this means Htc have the authority to reject your warranty claims. But at some places they accept the relocked bootloader under the warranty. It all depends on place, service center.. and the answer of your 2nd ques would be yes.. you could do it as many times you want. And you could also get the official OTA updates. So decision is yours.. check your phone for any defect. Then think about unlocking the bootloader.
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Yes there is a problem.. by unlocking the bootloader you may void your warranty. By this means Htc have the authority to reject your warranty claims. But at some places they accept the relocked bootloader under the warranty. It all depends on place, service center.. and the answer of your 2nd ques would be yes.. you could do it as many times you want. And you could also get the official OTA updates. So decision is yours.. check your phone for any defect. Then think about unlocking the bootloader.
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Thanks .. now I have understand .. +1 thanks to you and thanks to every one who had helped me
I have a small question .. how could I know that my phone comes with warranty ?? as I bought the phone from eBay without warranty but in the box there is a Warranty Statement !!

warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.

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warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.
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Okay Okay >> THANKS

Hboot is your bootloader. Like you get different types of bios menu for different pcs
Hboot is your bootloader not anything else. there are different hboots out there but they are all bootloaders (you could call it bios).
This means they tell your phone what to do when you press the power on button when it's off or you hold the volume down key and power on
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omar_bazaraa said:
Thanks .. now I have understand .. +1 thanks to you and thanks to every one who had helped me
I have a small question .. how could I know that my phone comes with warranty ?? as I bought the phone from eBay without warranty but in the box there is a Warranty Statement !!
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The phone was released end of march or april I believe. In that case you have warranty till March april 2014 by default as all phones come with 2 year warranty and your phone cannot possible be older than march as it was not available before then. So every single one x without a receipt had warranty till 2 years from release date
Even HTC know that so don't worry.
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warranty statement does not matter.. If you have the bill you may contact HTC if your phone comes under warranty or not?
but since you bought it without warranty.. So I doubt there would be any chance that it may come under any sort of warranty.
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I don't believe that to be true, for the first two years of a phone released, you can do without the bill receipt. If you were say to buy a HTC Desire HD a year ago brand new, as its 3 years old the build now; the receipt would be needed to prove you bought it within the last 2 years and not on release. But for a phone that has just been released you do not need to prove this, even HTC know you couldnt have had it more than 6 months

Are there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader to root?
As custom ROMs/bootloaders will not be able to receive OTA updates from HTC, is there anything that an update from HTC can do which custom ROMs cannot. (e.g. low level power management and performance enhancement stuff)?

eD1s0n said:
Are there any disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader to root?
As custom ROMs/bootloaders will not be able to receive OTA updates from HTC, is there anything that an update from HTC can do which custom ROMs cannot. (e.g. low level power management and performance enhancement stuff)?
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Yes you can flash roms arhd and viperx usually run the latest software from HTC anyway so you will be getting your ota erlyer than everyone else
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OMG!!!!
HBoot = the partition table on your phone. It's essentialy the way that the internal space is partitioned.
If you have let's say 5Gb of internal memory then yoy can partition it let's say like this:
1. System - 1Gb - where your ROM is installed
2. Cache - 2Gb - the cache for the sys apps and apps installed on internal
3. Data - The rest - where the apps are installed.
But to be perfectly honnest I really don't know why there would be any talk about HBoot as long we don't even have S-Off even, whem that is manditory.
As for the bootloader... That is the procces of booting the operating system in android, or any other OS. This tells the phone what to boot and what to start and in what order....
Hope it helps some of you.
Talking about HBoot I really don't think we'll be needing a different one any time soon as the sys partition is more then enought for the existing ROMs out there... for now at least. This was used mostly when you would've had a internal memory like 512 Mb and you'd use a sd-card's EXT2/EXT3 partition as internal memory for cache or data...
Hope it's more helpfull than confussing.
Rgds.
Pushu.X
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Thanks to all these usefull informations
+1 to every one

Flash Fire Query

If i flash a ROM such as Genesis with flash fire, i don't need to be rooted first do i? I mean the ROM will be prerooted won't it? Also can I flash fire with a locked bootloader.

Spaceboy60 said:
If i flash a ROM such as Genesis with flash fire, i don't need to be rooted first do i? I mean the ROM will be prerooted won't it? Also can I flash fire with a locked bootloader.
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Sounds good in theory, but FlashFire will ask for root privileges to do it's work. Thus you will need root to run FlashFire.
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Ok. Thanks. Once I've rooted I can then just flash fire the ROM without the need to unlock the bootloader?

Maybe, try it and let us know. I wouldn't do it on a model that didn't have a KDZ available though.

phineous said:
Maybe, try it and let us know. I wouldn't do it on a model that didn't have a KDZ available though.
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Thanks. Haven't bought one yet but thinking of buying a sim free h815 in the UK. Looks like there's several KDZ files for that.

There's exactly no point in trying.

Spaceboy60 said:
Thanks. Haven't bought one yet but thinking of buying a sim free h815 in the UK. Looks like there's several KDZ files for that.
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Wow, so many pre-purchase queries. Imaging, what would :good:happen, "if you buy one."

r4Rok said:
Wow, so many pre-purchase queries. Imaging, what would :good:happen, "if you buy one."
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Maybe I'd be stuck with a device with virtually no development for it since LG seems to be putting up as many barriers as it can.

Spaceboy60 said:
Maybe I'd be stuck with a device with virtually no development for it since LG seems to be putting up as many barriers as it can.
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Many of the H815 have bootloader unlock available now, so some development should appear soon. I'm concerned that the two Nexus phones and possible G4 pro being released will cause people to forget about the G4.

Not many just some and with loss of warranty its hard to just unlock. Even exynos phones see more development than this. If LG can remove loss of warranty probably it will jumpstart the development as more people will not be scared of losing their warranty. They also need to release a unlocked bootloader for all variants. Even rooting is a nightmare when looking at the steps needed
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skyelm said:
Not many just some and with loss of warranty its hard to just unlock. Even exynos phones see more development than this. If LG can remove loss of warranty probably it will jumpstart the development as more people will not be scared of losing their warranty. They also need to release a unlocked bootloader for all variants. Even rooting is a nightmare when looking at the steps needed
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True. You'd think as its been out since April there'd be a simple one click solution by now.