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TWRP vs. CWM recovery

I'm just curious what the general consensus is out there between these two recovery modules. I've always used cwm rec until recently when I couldn't test flash ANY cm10 jb roms. I had to install twrp in order to flash them and it worked right away. It nice to have touchscreen controls but newer cwm's have that now too so I guess I just want to be sure I'm not losing anything or missing out on anything by leaving cwm rec for twrp .. and many say to switch anyways but what is the general feeling out there and what are you others using?
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TWRP to me just has a better layout and mor responsive touch UI.. Havent had any problems with it so far not being able to flash or anything so...

+1 TWRP is overall smoother and easier to use IMO, and 0 issues so far flashing anything or restoring backups.

I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:

My favorite part about TWRP is that you can enable compression on nandroid backups.
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cellgeek said:
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
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Yep, I too had been using cwm since my first Captivate...and have always enjoyed it but have also recently switched to TWRP and find it to be better and plan to use it now.as.my only recovery.
It is unfortunate but true that u can't restore backups from the others program so all.my old.cwm nandroid backups are basically useless now unless I reinstall cwm but that's OK moving forward I guess.
I too was a bit confused by the internal.SD card file.system location in data/media and still.don't understand it but as long as u know then its OK. So far it sounds like twrp is the future of recovery and more and more people are switching...and the touch function and extra options.are.nice.features.
The bottom line is as long as I am not missing out on something or losing some important functionality then I'm fine with the switch from cwm and.will.stay with TWRP but will never deny the popularity and usefulness of cwm and how it got me going in the whole.game of flashing and.mod'ing phones.

TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.

hallo13th said:
TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
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I totally agree. I was using CWM on my Thrill and didn't get a chance to use TWRP till I got my Fire. Now I will only use TWRP. CWM is an excellent recovery but I like the features of TWRP better.
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a lot of the rooting/recovery guides are suggesting to use clockwork recovery, is that just because twrp wasn't really supported back then? any issues noticed with using twrp on the sgs3?

as with all programs there is no "best" just personal preference: try one, then the other and settle on that which suits yoiur phone and needs "the best"
I tried TWRP and went back to CWM -- many others, obviously, tried and preferred TWRP

TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.

hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers

totti107 said:
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
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Exactly the same as cwm. Except all wiping option are put together in the wipe menu, you can select multiple file to flash on after another and fix permissions is in the advanced menu.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
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I use the touch version of cwm and am very thankful for the thousands no's, help mitigate those "oh crap" moments that touch screen introduces.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
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Task and ktoonzes aokp ota updater now works with the newest twrp.

TWRP. I like its layout, and love that I can build a stack of .zips to flash. (Not sure if CWM has that feature, won't be causing me to switch over to it.)

Encrytion and backups!
The most impressive feature of TWRP hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.. TWRP supports flashing ROM's on devices that have been fully encrypted !
Also, it allows for backup and restore of ROMs on encrypted devices that neither CWM nor CWM Touch support.

OhNJ n
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Can you flash TWRP using CWM?

Is it possible?
Ive heard TWRP is the better recovery for JB and ICS, currently i have CWM but would like to get TWRP before flashing CM10/AOKP.
Can i just load the recovery zip file and flash in CWM?

Yes you can, but you're mistaken about TWRP being a better recovery for AOSP Jelly Bean roms. Using CWM 6.0.1.4 I never got one random reboot or SoD. I first flashed CM10 official nightly using TWRP 2.2.2.0 and got a random reboot waiting for the initial 10 minute wait to finish. Then I got another one playing around with the power button checking to see the consistency of the CRT animation. I switched over to official CWM 6.0.1.4 using rom manager and never had an issue afterwards. Aside from the usual graphics glitch here and there.
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I guess if i have 6.0.1.4 i should be good to go right?
I suppose neither is the "wrong" one to use. Plus i have used Nandroid backups since last year.
Thanks!

Khameleon said:
I guess if i have 6.0.1.4 i should be good to go right?
I suppose neither is the "wrong" one to use. Plus i have used Nandroid backups since last year.
Thanks!
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Personally I think TWRP is the better recovery. Its feature set is awesome such as queing files to flash and what not. But I really do believe these roms play favorites. Touchwiz roms seem to work the best when using TWRP. AOSP roms seem to work best with CWM. I use both recoveries and switch between TWRP for DARKSIDE Evolution and CWM for AOSP jelly bean roms.
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I have only flashed JB twice with TWRP 2.3.1 and have had zero RRs or SODs(so far)
Reading the changelog it seems to have shifted more towards JB, but im a noob so wth do i know haha
TWRP is shhhweet

[Q] TWRP vs Clockwork Mod?

Is one safer than the other for the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon)? I used the Galaxy Nexus Root Toolkit, and left the default options to unlock and root, so it should have installed TWRP, but I can't seem to get into it.....before I mess with it further, shall I just try to flash the ClockworkMod recoevery instead? That's what I have used for years and I am used to it.

Its mostly user preferred. I like twrp because it has way more features than cwm. It also backs up and restores faster than cwm IMO. U can also change the theme with twrp. The main thing is they both do the same thing.
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TWRP is easier to navigate also an has a way better ui.
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martyxng said:
Is one safer than the other for the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon)? I used the Galaxy Nexus Root Toolkit, and left the default options to unlock and root, so it should have installed TWRP, but I can't seem to get into it.....before I mess with it further, shall I just try to flash the ClockworkMod recoevery instead? That's what I have used for years and I am used to it.
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Use goomanager to install the latest twrp if you're having trouble. Like the post above it's user preference but from what I've seen twrp is recommended over cwm
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I don't think you have to worry about one being not as safe as the other. They're both totally dependable if you know how to use them. The one thing I would say is that TWRP tends to be little faster than CWM, such which can sometimes hang a bit after certain using certain functions, but that's really not a difference maker in my opinion. Otherwise, each has a few features that the other doesn't, but both have all the core functions most people need.

I have always used clockwork. I tried TWRP a few times and it felt very unpolished and buggy. I was forced to go back to CWM and just decided to stay.
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The last couple of versions of twrp have been pretty buggy, so I scanned the twrp dev thread for clues to a good stable version. Settled on 2.3.2.1 and it has tested out well so far. No issues.
It's just a lot easier and faster to use than cwm imo.

I started with twrp. I just switched to cwm touch as I just recently couldn't restore my large backups with twrp. Not sure how cwm is going to work haven't restored yet but it worked fine on my x2.
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definitely TWRP, way easier to navigate IMO. i used to use CWM but once i switched to TWRP i wont go back. even with the latest versions having a few bugs still like it. all in all very smooth and simple to navigate.

Wich recovery?

Im new to this device and have been reading through the dev forums and notice that everyone uses different recoveries. Does it matter really wich one you use? I like twrp but I had problems with it when I had my g2x. Is there a deffinitave answer as to wich one works best on this device? (CWM or TWRP) I know that this is mostly based on user preference but it seems that some custom roms will only install on a specific recovery.
Thanks in advance.
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personally everyone has there own opinion i use CWM on my vibrant & GS2 but i use TWRP on my nexus s and nexus 7 not sure what my mytouch uses but CWM for always will and always has worked well without any bugs or hiccups that TWRP sometimes has but TWRP is very simple and straight forward its all on whats your preference though if you are going to use TWRP the latest is 2.6 and you should not flash it through GOO manager use the odin file when you get there

TWRP is by far a better way to go, not that CWM is a bad recovery, its just not updated frequently, and with the new scripts flashing jb roms sometimes things don't always work right, I've used both and I think twrp is a better choice, I've never had an issue with it like I have on cwm, plus with twrp u won't need superwipe scripts or anything like that anymore, overall I think its a more complete recovery
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Problems with Flinny CM10.1 - trying to get sensors working

Hi there,
I am using flinnys cm10.1 roms since some time and absolutely love them.
Smooth, fast - but the automatic screen rotation does not work.
No I did some research and was told to flash some sense-rom to get the
sensors back to work. I tried - but no other rom than the cm10.1 will boot!
I tried a virtuous unity and another quiet new sense-rom - installation through
rom manager says everything ok, but the phone get's always stuck in the
backup programm while trying to boot the newly flashed rom.
I tried with and without wiping, whatever - nothing works.
What else can I try?

Don't use ROM manager, use your recovery
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demkantor said:
Don't use ROM manager, use your recovery
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What do you mean with "use your recovery".
I did also try to flash the new roms from the recovery program, which did not work either

ROM manager is not a great way to flash to your phone or wipe anything
Boot to your recovery, do a full wipe, flash ROM of choice
If your flashing sense ROMs make sure to have the dz hboot also formating all partitions to ext4 may help
More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43195539
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demkantor said:
ROM manager is not a great way to flash to your phone or wipe anything
Boot to your recovery, do a full wipe, flash ROM of choice
If your flashing sense ROMs make sure to have the dz hboot also formating all partitions to ext4 may help
More info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43195539
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Thanks for the explanation, I'll try againg that way and report back.