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Correct way to recalibrate/wipe battery stats

Does anyone have a link for the thread that discussed the correct way to wipe battery stats when upgrading to a new Rom? I remember it went something like drain dead, charge to full, drain dead again then charge to full and wipe stats. I can't remember the complete process. Thanks for the help.
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I've seen a couple different threads on that here, one saying discharge fully then charge while powered off, and the other saying to do a full charge "conditioning cycle". I did the latter and it seems to have made a difference.
Here's what I did:
Charge the phone fully with it powered on
When fully charged, disconnect cable
After green LED goes off, power the phone off
When phone is fully powered off, reconnect cable, amber charging light should be on
When LED goes green, disconnect cable
Repeat previous two steps 10 times
After 10th cycle, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
I am using Amon Ra recovery which has the wipe battery stats option under the Wipe option. I never did this when I had Clockwork recovery installed, so I don't know if the option is in the same place.
Being an electrical engineer, I find this business of battery conditioning interesting, along with the Ni-Cd "memory" vs. Li-Ion "no memory" issue. If anyone has found a decent physics-based explanation as to why these things do or do not have any basis in fact, I'd appreciate a link. Yes, I'm too lazy to Google it at the moment.

Hmm, I may have to look into this again. I charged my phone all night (powered off) and unplugged it this morning. I did nothing with it this morning but turn it on and look at it, then put it in standby (quick press of power button). It lost 16% of charge in less than 2 hours!
I'm running BS1.2 with the Baked1 (low voltage/best battery) kernel.
Damn, just installed System Panel and found that my CPU is at 100% constantly!

I'm trying this now. The longest I've pushed my battery was 22 hours... and that was with 39 minutes of screen on time, lol. In standby almost the entire 22 hours....

Ok, I believe my issue was related to a camcorder problem, my CPU usage has dropped back to normal levels after fixing that separate problem. After my battery recharges fully I will see what happens with the charge.

the other methods to do "calibrate your battery" (which isnt really calibrating the battery but the battery stats of the phone so it can accuratly judge when it stops and starts charging)
1) charge the phone to full
2) unplug and use phone till it shuts off from no battery (do not plug in until it shuts off)
3) charge phone to full again with out unplugging till 100% (check under about phone > battery it shoudl say full charge there)
this should reset the battery stats.
the last method is one from HTC
1)Charge the phone for 8 hours uninterupted with power on
2) turn off the phone and charge for an additional hour
3) turn ont he phone unplug it and let it sit for 2 minutes then plug it in for an additional hour.
all 3 methods listed should help. I personally dont like the x10 method because it has the potential and basically over charges the battery to make sure it is acctually at a full charge. It is much faster then the other 2 methods though so to each there own.

Dont waste your time on...
plug/unplug 10 times. It really doesn't recal the battery.
the unplug/plug 10 times.
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
You are good to go!

If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.

fldash said:
If I tether during the day (5+ hours) a lot, is it bad on my battery? Isn't that like a constant charge or does once the LED turn green it stops trying to charge?
Thanks.
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the evo doesnt do a trickle charge so when the light turns green it stops, this is why you will almost always drop 1-5% battery rather quickly.

Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.

fldash said:
Are you sure? My light has been green for a while, and my phone battery status says 'Full'.
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There's a lot of confusion over how the battery / charging circuit works and how it reports. My advice is to just charge until it's green and full, then unplug it. If you leave it plugged in all night, unplug it for 10 mins in the morning, then plug it back in to top off.

That doesn't really help me SilverZero, my question is only if leaving it tethered (which means connected to USB) is bad for my battery.

Well on mine i would check it every once in awhile and i would see that once it get downs to under 90% that it would charge again till it recognized that it was full again. So based on that i dont think you should have to worry about it. It seems to only draw the charge when needed. I also leave mine plugged in alot when im home so its good to go when i leave and havent noticed a loss of battery life at all.

You guys don't want the charger to trickle charge. Li-Ion does not accept overcharge, even 0.01C (15 mA on the stock Evo battery) will cause it to vent and probably combust.

So does "calibrating the battery" calibrate the phone or the actual battery?
I ask because I have 3 spare batteries, wondering if I have to do this for each of them??? They are all standard size, one of them OEM

Battery calibration?

Wheres that one thread with the official email response to how to calibrate evo battery? Why isn't that thread stickied? I'm charging my phone right now and I forgot what to do..

If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown

this is what your looking for...
elegantai said:
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
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i think he is talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990

elegantai said:
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
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deonjahy said:
i think he is talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
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1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour
yes also have to try thebatterystatewipe too

How often should you need to calibrate using this method?

elegantai said:
If you mean the trick where you charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off, unplug, plug back in until green, unplug, plug back in till green, do that 5 more times, wave your hand over the phone while patting your belly, then unplug and plug in like 10 more times... well thats it
or if you mean battery stat calibration: charge to 100% boot into recovery, wipe battery stats, then reboot and do not plug in till your phone forces a shutdown
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I think patting my belly was what made my battery last longer

ElAguila said:
How often should you need to calibrate using this method?
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Honestly I wouldn't worry about doing any battery calibration. Battery calibration reminds me of breaking in a barrel on a new rifle. If you talk to 20 different people you will receive 20 different methods of doing the task. Generally if there isn't a single known method with proven results you can attribute the method to the placebo effect.
One thing I always wonder about these battery calibration methods is how the tests were performed. A lot of the time people will claim improved battery life but there is often another explanation for the increase in battery life, they rebooted the phone. If there was a process running amok it could very well have lowered their battery life and rebooting the phone simply killed the process thus improving battery life.
Personally I've never done anything special to calibrate the battery on any device I've owned and I've not have battery life problems. In fact when comparing the battery life of my devices vs. my friends who spent a lot of time calibrating we end up having almost identical time in which we can run on battery.
Just my two cents.

I don't really think it improves the battery so much as it makes it give you a proper reading. Mine can say the battery is down to 30% but it charges really fast. So I think it is an issue of reading the battery level properly.

doesn't charging like this deteriorate battery life? you keep pushing and pushing more volts into your battery. I think its better to do a full charge/discharge cycle a few times a week.

You only do it like this once and not every time. Also I have heard that with the lithium ion batteries you don't want to drain them completely or they may not charge up.

evo4gfan said:
doesn't charging like this deteriorate battery life? you keep pushing and pushing more volts into your battery. I think its better to do a full charge/discharge cycle a few times a week.
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Not with lithium ion. IN fact with li-ion/li-poly batteries, discharging them completely can kill them instantly.
ElAguila said:
I don't really think it improves the battery so much as it makes it give you a proper reading. Mine can say the battery is down to 30% but it charges really fast. So I think it is an issue of reading the battery level properly.
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Exactly. It is all about being able to read the battery at 100 percent when it is actually at 100% that way the meter goes down properly percentage wise and you don't lose 20 percent in the first 10 minutes after you unplug the damn phone lol. But the said method does in fact fix this problem. You should after doing the method listed on my website, or mentioned in the email from htc, see less of a drop after removing the charger.

skydeaner said:
Not with lithium ion. IN fact with li-ion/li-poly batteries, discharging them completely can kill them instantly.
Exactly. It is all about being able to read the battery at 100 percent when it is actually at 100% that way the meter goes down properly percentage wise and you don't lose 20 percent in the first 10 minutes after you unplug the damn phone lol. But the said method does in fact fix this problem. You should after doing the method listed on my website, or mentioned in the email from htc, see less of a drop after removing the charger.
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thanks for clarifying.

[Q] real guide to calibrate battery

Hello to all people.
I read all guides in this forum about battery calibration but nothing same to be correct for me!
I have leeDroid 2.2e ROM Oc up 1156mhz and smarttass governator.
The problem is that my battery drain too fast!after a complete night charge I turn on my phone and after 5minutes my battery goes down to 99 98 97 until 89 in an hour!the very strange problem is that I can see 100% only for very few minutes.
I have downloaded from market battery booster and I have noticed that if my voltage is 4192mv under charge with green led, when I unplug the phone from charge the battery drains less quickly.also i have noticed that after a night of charge my led is green and when I turn on it after one minute if I plug to ac my led remains orange for a lot of time!!!!that is very strange!!!
Can anyone help me?
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I saw another post in a German forum to this topic and I made it like this, 'cause my Battery went directly to 89% after plugging off the cable: Load your battery with the phone turned on until the green LED light is on. Then plug it off, turn the phone off, plug it in and let the battery load until the LED is green again. Then plug it off, turn the phone on and let it boot completely. After that, turn it off again, plug the cable in and let the battery load until the LED is green. Then plug the cable off, turn your phone on and use it. The problem shouldn't be there anymore. But you should do this everytime you flash a new Rom!

Ok thanks man!but I don't see in any steep how to restore the battery stats via recovery
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I believe the reason for the battery going straight to 89% is because when the battery is at 100% and its still on charge, every now and then, the phone discharges itself down to 90% and then back up to 100%. This is because trickle charging is generally considered bad. If you dont believe me, download Juice Plotter from the market. charge your phone up to 100% and leave it on charge overnight. When you check juice plotter in the morning you will see that every so often it drops to 90% and back up to 100%. Chances are that somepeople are taking thier phone off charge when the phone is in the middle of one of these dips. I know i do it all the time.

mattiadj said:
Ok thanks man!but I don't see in any steep how to restore the battery stats via recovery
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You don't restore battery stats from recovery. You wipe battery stats!

alex101uk said:
every now and then, the phone discharges itself down to 90% and then back up to 100%.
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Thanks for that info, I had been wondering about that myself.

StuMcBill said:
You don't restore battery stats from recovery. You wipe battery stats!
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Yes it is what i want mean, sorry for mistake...so i don't need to wipe battery stats?

You don't have to but you can. In AmonRA go to "Wipe" and choose "Wipe Battery Stats". In Clockwork it is in Advanced, I think...Or in the Section where you can mount the drives...The Tip that I wrote is the Battery Calibration how you can find it on HTC's Homepage. If your Desire is rooted, you can just wipe the stats if you want to.

Moved to Q&A as not development.

Battery charge from 80% to 100%=(

Hi, sry for my english=(
When i charge my battery its normally charge to 80% and then becomes 100%.
Try calibrate battery but this doesnt help. Also try another roms and kernels.
Is it a battery issue?

U can buy new battery from DEALEXTREME.com

so its the only way?

Try this.
Charge battery to full. Leave plugged in, Turn off fastboot in power settings and shut phone off. Light will turn orange again and let it charge til green. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. After this let the battery drain as low as 10% before recharging to full without unplugging. Do this a few times over a few days. If you don't get more accurate percentages after this then the battery could be messed up.

Gizmoe said:
Try this.
Charge battery to full. Leave plugged in, Turn off fastboot in power settings and shut phone off. Light will turn orange again and let it charge til green. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. After this let the battery drain as low as 10% before recharging to full without unplugging. Do this a few times over a few days. If you don't get more accurate percentages after this then the battery could be messed up.
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thx i will try.

i have the exact same issue. i have done battery stat wipe..flashed multiple roms over and over with full wipe and all that. battery charges up to 80% then the LED turns green..and stays that way till it reaches 100%. it jumps from 80% to 100% in just a few minutes.

battery jump
I wouldn't worry Lendlord mine does the same (see attached pic) you can see the green line jumps up from 80 to 100 but doesn't jump down from 100 to 80 under use. The picture is taken from Battery monitor widget, it's a great app which shows mv, ma, % and temp and even keeps a text log of what ma drain there has been allowing you to monitor battery drain while you're using your phone or while it is sleeping.
Here's a great guide aswell of how to ensure best battery life by memnoc:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016

so thats mean that some battaries have the same issue=( And there is no solution for it...
HTC failed again...
first GPS and now the battery. Bad, very bad!
And one more request.
Can someone post your current widget log?

LendLord said:
so thats mean that some battaries have the same issue=( And there is no solution for it...
HTC failed again...
first GPS and now the battery. Bad, very bad!
And one more request.
Can someone post your current widget log?
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I have the same thing happen to mine, i think its because you've let your DHD die due to low battery levels and that damages the battery which i think causes this problem

..letting the phone shut off because of a completely discharged battery is NOT good for the lifetime of Li-ION batteries.
The battery could be hurt and the amount of mAh the battery is able to store might be lower after.
Also trying to 'pump' the battery to fully charge by connecting / disconnecting while the phone is down is not a good advice because li-ion batteries also don't like overcharging.
To be sure that the battery is fully charged due to its ability it is sufficient to let the phone be conectet to charger or usb overnight.
Android uses the voltage of the battery to estimate (!) the % charge value.
Android supposes the battery is fully charged when it enters the voltage of about 4.2 Volt which is the charging cut-off voltage for li-ion cells.
Now when charging again the conceded voltage is reached more quickly than estimated by android, so the system is 'surprised' of this rapid charge and changes the % value to 100% because the conceded voltage is reached more quicklyy as supposed.
(Try to fill a 0.5ltr beer bottle into a 0.33 glass)
This is the normal of aging for li-ion batteries.
Consider for yourself if it's acceptable for you or if you should by a new battery.
by the way... be careful with cheap china batteries for 10$.
Offers with exaggerated values (up to 1600mAh) will mostly keep their promises
only for the first two or three charges only and will than fall back to 800 mAh or even less !
Greetz
Pudel

Yeah...
My battery started to do the same thing for a week or two. It will charge to 86% then it jumps to 100%, saying it's charged.

This is normal afaik, nothing to worry about.
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solve
actually，it's the problem of your rom , in the framwork.apk . unzip it you will get a lot of battery icon form 1%to 100% in the res file ，if it made mistake，that 'your problem. you can go to uot kitchen to coustom it again.

Nope!
I've solved my problem. I've bought a new (original) htc battery, and the new one works great. I haven't reflashed the rom, or made any new modification. Just added the new battery.
So, yes, it's a faulty battery.

LendLord said:
Hi, sry for my english=(
When i charge my battery its normally charge to 80% and then becomes 100%.
Try calibrate battery but this doesnt help. Also try another roms and kernels.
Is it a battery issue?
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Download Current widget from market and charge ur phone then wait for the 0 ma then download the battery calibration app from market too and calibrate and unplug ur phone, u can aslo reboot to recovery and wipe battery stats hope it helped you

Phone shuts down at 14%

So, I bought another battery. Will this sort it?
Also, what's the usual procedure?
Should I charge the battery to full in the phone (turned off) then boot, set up, then charge again and reset battery stats?

The problem is that the battery control chip doesn't take into account that the battery ages.
Resetting battery stats or charging while turned off will only clear the stats you see in the settings menu. This guide will make your battery drain to 0% again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534892
I don't know what a new battery will do though.

I gathered that, but as the phone is going to a new user (my stepson) we got him a new battery anyway
I just wondered what the correct procedure is. I know you need to do a first charge with a new battery, as with a new phone, however, this phone obviously has a working ROM already on it.
So, the phone is charging now, switched off. Should I turn it on, use a little, then use the battery calibration app to delete the stats and then drain to 0%?

Kryten2k35 said:
I know you need to do a first charge with a new battery, as with a new phone
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Well, that assumption is probably inherited from the NiHM batteries in the past, because it's not needed with Li-Ion batteries. In fact charging to 80% is better than charging to 100% and keeping it plugged in.
You can read more about it here and here.
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So, the phone is charging now, switched off. Should I turn it on, use a little, then use the battery calibration app to delete the stats and then drain to 0%?
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Just charge it and use it for a full cycle. If it shuts down at 15%, you can try the battery calibration from the thread I mentioned above. If it doesn't, you're battery capacity is the same as the one the battery chip has calculated, which is good.

So, why does the first charge take so long?
This thing is still charging and it's been on the charger for 3 hours, whereas usually it'd be charged fully by now.
Been like that for every Li-Ion battery I've ever had (including my S3, took around 6 hours to charge, usually takes 3).
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Just to clarify, I don't intend on leaving it past the green light. As soon as it says it's full I'll be taking it off charge and not trying ot overcharge it. But I still have the orange charging light after 3-4 hours.

To be honest, I don't know. Maybe it's a safety to prevent overcharging. Coincidentally, I've got exactly the same issue now. I asked about it in the calibration thread. I suppose it's normal, but I'm not sure about that.

Kryten2k35 said:
So, why does the first charge take so long?
This thing is still charging and it's been on the charger for 3 hours, whereas usually it'd be charged fully by now.
Been like that for every Li-Ion battery I've ever had (including my S3, took around 6 hours to charge, usually takes 3).
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Just to clarify, I don't intend on leaving it past the green light. As soon as it says it's full I'll be taking it off charge and not trying ot overcharge it. But I still have the orange charging light after 3-4 hours.
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my battery took just over 6 hours to charge the other day from completly dead
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