So I, being the smooth and coordinated individual that I am, managed to drop my shiny new phone on it's face and break it in less than 24 hours after getting it. The screen underneath remains in perfect condition, so my question is this: Do I need to get an entire screen digitizer and glass assembly like this or this, or can I save $50 and just get this or this?
As long as I spend less than the $150 deductible I do not regret not getting a warranty. Thanks.
If touch recognition isn't an issue and your screens colors aren't bleeding you just need the glass
Thanks, that's good to hear. Now I just need to decide whether I'm brave enough to do it myself. I probably am not since there don't seem to be any repair guides, teardowns, or anything out there yet.
You can do it yourself, but the battery isn't removable. So you run the risk of it over heating when using a blow dryer or heat gun.
When my friend and I replaced a cracked digitizer and screen, we used a industrial heat solder gun. 1500°F was the max.
If you do it through a company, or a private party, $150 might look a lot more appealing for the warranty.
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It's actually necessary to pull out the battery to get to the screen?
Sometimes. You can usually remove the digitizer without pulling anything out, but most the time the LCD screen is pretty far in the screen and can require you pull some stuff out.
I'm not a master on these things, so I'd recommend looking up videos on newer model phones having their screen replaced.
Should give you a generic idea.
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I will be doing a complete disassembly guide probably around the 1st along with a guide on replacing the digitizer and the LCD display, waiting on my new phone repair kit to come in and go figure i had to order it around christmas lol so if you can wait it will be a comprehensive guide, just a warning though it is a more difficult phone to teardown seeing as the digitizer is a) fused to the LCD and b) fused to the body.
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You can do it yourself, but the battery isn't removable. So you run the risk of it over heating when using a blow dryer or heat gun.
When my friend and I replaced a cracked digitizer and screen, we used a industrial heat solder gun. 1500°F was the max.
If you do it through a company, or a private party, $150 might look a lot more appealing for the warranty.
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When i did a disassembly on the nexus 4 same "non removable" battery was held in by two screws, i'm suspecting that will be the case with this seeing as the nexus4 is one of the sister phones of the LGOG
I've already taken the back off my phone and you are correct the battery is held in by 2 screws, unscrew those and the battery falls right out
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there is a manual of the south korean optimus g teardown floating around here somewhere.
**found it
http://www.f0il.com/LGLS970/EN_LGLS970_SVC%20ENG_121026.pdf
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there is a manual of the south korean optimus g teardown floating around here somewhere.
**found it
http://www.f0il.com/LGLS970/EN_LGLS970_SVC%20ENG_121026.pdf
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Awesome! Thank you so much,
Regarding screen replacement
If I'm not mistaken, which I might be, but I believe the digitizer and display are fused together....much like the iphone. So replacing the digitizer alone will be difficult enough if not impossible.
I've seen websites and eBay sellers selling just the glass and digitizer without the screen, but I seem to recall hearing something about a "gapless" display when it first got announced. Is that a marketing term or is it actually fused together? I guess I'll find out from my local repair place.
So is there a definitive answer to this yet? Mine slipped out of my pocket last night and has joined the cracked screen club.
They told me that the screen and glass are fused together the other day. :/
It's fused together, best option is to cough up the $150 and get it replaced. You will just waste your time trying to repair it and end up with something worse than a cracked screen.
The digitizer and LCD are fused together and are impossible to separate. This assembly is also then glued on to the frame, making it impossible to just pull off (unless you're good with a heat gun!). The frame is currently unavailable so your only option is to buy the $100-140 screen assembly and a heat gun to melt the glue enough to pry it off.
My suggestion is just getting a local repair shop to do it for you, it'll save you the trouble and most are charging approximately $150.00.
Source: Just repaired two of these.
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Hi guys, I got my hands on a MT4G with a broken LCD.
First Q, is it worthy getting a replacement off cheapbay? What other options are there?
Second Q, is it hard to replace it? Is it possible to do it myself?
Thanks for your advise...
I haven't replaced an LCD myself but I am looking to replace a digitizer for my wife's phone.
Someone posted up this link for me in another thread I started.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FULL-LCD-DI...984?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a12834fe0
This should take out the hard part of disassembling the digitizer from the lcd and reattaching and the adhesive itself.
It's the complete the front housing, digitizer AND LCD in one. Already assembled.
I haven't ordered it myself yet but I AM tempted. Especially after watching some of these disassembling videos.
Let me know what you decide and how it worked out.
Just PM me.
Thanks bro and good luck.
Thanks a lot, I will check it out, the adhesive part really has me in doubt.
I've replaced the LCD without the digitizer attached and you are both correct. It can be done but the finished product is not factory quality. I looked at the ebay part posted in the link and that would be the way to do it. Otherwise you have to use a hair dryer to heat the glue and its not fun.
If you are not familiar with taking electronics apart look for a video tutorial via google; I used one to take the MT4G apart. Also label the screws as they come out by drawing the phone on a piece of paper and placing the screw accordingly on the paper. Makes assembly much easier!
Hope you take on the challenge and good luck.
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I've replaced the LCD without the digitizer attached and you are both correct. It can be done but the finished product is not factory quality. I looked at the ebay part posted in the link and that would be the way to do it. Otherwise you have to use a hair dryer to heat the glue and its not fun.
If you are not familiar with taking electronics apart look for a video tutorial via google; I used one to take the MT4G apart. Also label the screws as they come out by drawing the phone on a piece of paper and placing the screw accordingly on the paper. Makes assembly much easier!
Hope you take on the challenge and good luck.
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Yeah my only thing about ordering this complete assembly is that my wife's phone has the SO screen and I don't want to replace with an SH, which I'm sure that part is going to be. (99.99% sure)
Add to that, she doesn't even need a new LCD and the digitizer alone is just 25 bucks.
Decisions, decisions.
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Yeah my only thing about ordering this complete assembly is that my wife's phone has the SO screen and I don't want to replace with an SH, which I'm sure that part is going to be. (99.99% sure)
Add to that, she doesn't even need a new LCD and the digitizer alone is just 25 bucks.
Decisions, decisions.
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I have to clean the dirt out between my digitizer and lcd! Can't tell you how annoying that is. Suppose someone could do a better job resealing it... It would be nice if a digitizer/lcd kit came with new adhesive.
http://www.papadigitals.com/advance...uch+4g&sgmid=aa6a532f59b343f82afc0aaa2d55c02d
I saw lcd screen and touch screen digitizer for HTC mytouch 4G there.
I've been taking electronics apart since I was 7 tears old. The MyTouch 4g finally beat me.
There are a lot of really delicate connectors that break easily. Be careful
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is it worthy getting a replacement off cheapbay? What other options are there? Second Q, is it hard to replace
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You'd better to buy non-working phone (maybe from ebay) and make one from two phones. You should have the screwdriver. Easy to replace.
It is not really hard i saw a vid on youtube just search it up super easy actually
I bought a digitizer LCD already together for like 75 and it wasn't too bad to exchange and put this new one in but when I powered the phone the bottom left of the screen didn't work and it impossible to take it back out of the silver bezel without breaking it so I sent it back to get my money and lost the bezel. Its not too hard but be careful take your time and don't pull or yank anything.
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I replaced my digitizer. I agree, there are many delicate connectors, but nothing to be afraid of. You should watch the YouTube video over and over. Also, be careful not to push on the bottom buttons while taking it apart. This was the most frustrating thing because they wouldn't sit properly when reassembled. I took it apart 5 times before I forgot to detach the power ribbon and ripped it off! There are motherboards available to fix this, but saving it for another day.
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That's funny that's the same exact thing I did pulled the power ribbon right out so I just said screw it and just bought a new phone on eBay
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Bust the thing badly from only 3 foot onto hard surface.
Anybody had theirs replaced by htc or themselves or otherwise? Its cracked all over and the odd patch of yellow.
Ta slim
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my experience
Long story short, I have an att HOX with a broken screen that I purchased from eBay for cheap in addition to the global HOX that I am using to write this. The LCD was fine, just the glass was broken. After waiting for a replacement to ship from China, I waded into the intertubes and found several tutorials on screen repair for the HOX. After several infuriating hours I discovered something that none of the tutorials mention. The adhesive that bonds the LCD to the digitizer is very strong stuff and even with the liberal application of a decent heat gun, you stand a good chance of breaking the LCD while trying to separate it from the digitizer.
Your best bet is to purchase the display assembly and replace the entire thing. If you do decide to try and replace only the digitizer, you will need patience, lots of time(2 hours+), and some luck. Follow the directions but instead of trying to separate the two pieces in one go like they show in the tutorial, work your way in about a quarter inch or less at a time. Use the heat gun right next to where you plan to separate the LCD and then slowly work around from there. The longer it takes, the better. Just be careful not to overheat the LCD. A good rule of thumb is that if it is too hot to hold in your bare hand, you used too much heat.
This ^
If you try to only replace the digitizer.....you're gonna have a bad time
Ive never dropped a cellphone but today was that day. I had bought an invisible shield to put it on today when i got home. Right when i got home i put the phone in my pocket but it had it had hole. BAM. it dropped down my leg and hit the concrete face down. It shattered the digitizer but the lcd is intact. My question was, would i be able to buy a digitizer and change it without having to pay 180 for a new digitizer/lcd ? any help would be appreciated.
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I'm fairly sure I've read that the digitizer is fused with the screen.
Yeah there's no way going around it. They're glued together as one piece.
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU dammit
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I spoke to some rep from samsung yesterday on my phone and they said it would be 179.99 to fix it. But my question is, do i have to include the lcd ? Because my lcd isnt broke and they sell the glass on ebay for 20 bucks. I would rather try and fix it myself and break it, THEN send it to samsung if i cant fix it instead of paying 180 bucks for just some glass since my lcd is not broken and have them rip me off because they will def reuse my lcd and win anyways.
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I spoke to some rep from samsung yesterday on my phone and they said it would be 179.99 to fix it. But my question is, do i have to include the lcd ? Because my lcd isnt broke and they sell the glass on ebay for 20 bucks. I would rather try and fix it myself and break it, THEN send it to samsung if i cant fix it instead of paying 180 bucks for just some glass since my lcd is not broken and have them rip me off because they will def reuse my lcd and win anyways.
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It's been answered.. if you want to do it yourself you're going to end up breaking your LCD and need to buy the part or send it to Samsung anyways. There is no way around it.
There is a video on YouTube with somebody changing only the glass. Check on YouTube so you will have an idea about how to do it and if you will be able.
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I dont believe they are "fused" together. from my history in repairing phones, there is just a small sliver of double sided tape holding the digitizer to the LCD screen. and all you need to do is use a plastic seperating tool to slowly seperate the two. Also, use a good hot hair dryer to help melt away the adhesive. good luck!
Go to a hardware store and pick up a heat gun. Take the phone completely apart, take out all the electronics. Heat the screen evenly and slowly start pulling the screen up little by little while hitting it with the heat gun.
Take your time and don't rush. It can be done but it's not easy and can damage the LCD.
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If you do this HEAT the **** out of the LCD and digitizer. It will be very hard to separate the two. Please take pictures and tell us you're approach to help other S3 users.
I had a long ass post written but now it's gone. boo.
anyways. Here's something to consider as to why you can't separate it. If you believe there's a way to get around it then good luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es8gezSdKv4&feature=youtu.be
Hi everyone,
First, I hope there's not another thread opened about this, I promise I did several searches and couldn't find one that was close enough
I have some question about screen replacement.
My dad just dropped his note 2 and damaged the screen (really unfortunate, it was really a little drop!), so I was looking into buying a screen from eBay and replace it myself. yes, it's tricky, but not all that much imo (big +1 to the guy from the YT channel LE55ONS, his videos about this kind of stuff are amazingly well done).
So, the screen is broken, the display is not, but if I bring the phone to the rapair guy he will almost certainly replace the screen and the display for €200+
If I buy something like this
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40
and replace it myself I can do the whole thing and spend some €50 tops.
I was thinking about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gray-Front-O...item3a7dc376c5
Here come the questions. Can anyone point me towards a good screen replacement for something around $20/30? Is the quality good? I asked the seller if it is actually gorilla glass 2 and he said yes.
Also, these don't have any connectors, the original one has 2. I can always use the connectors from the old screen, but if someone knows about a screen with connectors included, can they please let me know? There's nothing like asking to someone who has already done something like what I'm about to do.
Thank you everyone
Mine dropped from two feet and hairline cracked across the whole screen. I bought the full assembly LCD/digitizer. Did the repair per LE55ONS. AOK now. afterwards, i tried to pry apart the digitizer. In my Note II is is bonded with transparent gum covering the entire LCD. No way to replace only the digitizer.
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Mine dropped from two feet and hairline cracked across the whole screen. I bought the full assembly LCD/digitizer. Did the repair per LE55ONS. AOK now. afterwards, i tried to pry apart the digitizer. In my Note II is is bonded with transparent gum covering the entire LCD. No way to replace only the digitizer.
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If you buy the digitizer with the screen attached that's sooo much easier to replace, it's almost not even risky. But it costs somewhere around $200, the same as having it repaired by a professionist. Did you find a cheaper replacement?
I stupidly cracked my screen and took it to my local fix it guy. He wasn't familiar with the tab but did several other Samsung tabs. He said I had to order the LCD along with the screen which didn't sound right. He said the screen is glued to the LCD and is very difficult to remove without breaking. I've only personally fixed ipads so im not familiar with the inner workings of Samsung tabs but from what I see all I need is the screen and digitizer. Tablet works perfectly fine. Buying an LCD will be a lot more expensive than the $70 screen replacement. I went back and asked his assistant which gave me the impression he know anything, since the screen is amaloid is there an LCD? If the tab works do I need an LCD as well??
AMOLED screens are a large group of single LEDs. There is no liquid crystal portion. It is possible to replace the glass by itself but it's extremely hard. Most places do it the way you listed and buy them as one piece. It requires a heat gun and lots of patience to change just the glass and it's not unheard of to break the screen or digitizer in the process of removing the old glass. Look it up on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about. The screen digitizer and glass are made into a single piece to keep it thin. Makes it more expensive when you need to fix it but they are MUCH better screens than LCD as far as blacks and power usage.
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AMOLED screens are a large group of single LEDs. There is no liquid crystal portion. It is possible to replace the glass by itself but it's extremely hard. Most places do it the way you listed and buy them as one piece. It requires a heat gun and lots of patience to change just the glass and it's not unheard of to break the screen or digitizer in the process of removing the old glass. Look it up on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about. The screen digitizer and glass are made into a single piece to keep it thin. Makes it more expensive when you need to fix it but they are MUCH better screens than LCD as far as blacks and power usage.
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Damn it he actually knew what he was talking about. This is the first screen i ever broke and of course it has to be the most difficult. Saw a LCD screen combo for $260 but I'm just gonna give him extra to try and save the current LCD. Thanks for the info
I just watched the video it didn't look too difficult it was actually separated in 2 minutes in the video. After Applying heat it separated rather easily. An experienced person shouldn't have a problem.
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AMOLED screens are a large group of single LEDs. There is no liquid crystal portion. It is possible to replace the glass by itself but it's extremely hard. Most places do it the way you listed and buy them as one piece. It requires a heat gun and lots of patience to change just the glass and it's not unheard of to break the screen or digitizer in the process of removing the old glass. Look it up on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about. The screen digitizer and glass are made into a single piece to keep it thin. Makes it more expensive when you need to fix it but they are MUCH better screens than LCD as far as blacks and power usage.
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The glass being glued to the screen has nothing to do with it being AMOLED. Several non-AMOLED tablets and phones (e.g. iDevices) have glued screen, digitizer, and glass all into one piece. The reason is to make the device thinner, lighter, and most importantly, cheaper to manufacture.
A heat gun will melt the glue and you can then take it apart, but yes, it's hard and you'll likely break it.
It might be removable if careful but gluing them back together will be difficult without introducing air bubbles or getting the glue in the wrong place.
I would send it to samsung, you may be suprised and cost less than you think.
I smashed the screen, damaged the metal housing and speakers on my HTC ONE M8 within 2 weeks of buying it. I sent it to htc and they completely fixed it in a week and looked like new.
The total cost of the complete repair including 2 way shipping was actually way less than the total cost of just the replaced parts if id have bought them myself. It cost me £103 in total for everything to be good as new and that was a phone that was supposedly almost impossible to repair.
Maybe Samsung might be as generous?
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It might be removable if careful but gluing them back together will be difficult without introducing air bubbles or getting the glue in the wrong place.
I would send it to samsung, you may be suprised and cost less than you think.
I smashed the screen, damaged the metal housing and speakers on my HTC ONE M8 within 2 weeks of buying it. I sent it to htc and they completely fixed it in a week and looked like new.
The total cost of the complete repair including 2 way shipping was actually way less than the total cost of just the replaced parts if id have bought them myself. It cost me £103 in total for everything to be good as new and that was a phone that was supposedly almost impossible to repair.
Maybe Samsung might be as generous?
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I'm actually going to give them a call because I know it'll be cheaper than buying an lcd screen and labor. Thanks for your post
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It might be removable if careful but gluing them back together will be difficult without introducing air bubbles or getting the glue in the wrong place.
I would send it to samsung, you may be suprised and cost less than you think.
I smashed the screen, damaged the metal housing and speakers on my HTC ONE M8 within 2 weeks of buying it. I sent it to htc and they completely fixed it in a week and looked like new.
The total cost of the complete repair including 2 way shipping was actually way less than the total cost of just the replaced parts if id have bought them myself. It cost me £103 in total for everything to be good as new and that was a phone that was supposedly almost impossible to repair.
Maybe Samsung might be as generous?
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Just called Samsung and they quoted me $200 with free shipping to and from. Which is excellent because that's cheaper than I've seen for an LCD and screen. These are my options so
1. $25 for screen and $50 labor for local guy to fix with no guarantee he won't break LCD then I'll be back to square 1
2. $199 send to Samsung guaranteed to work like new when I get it back.
#2 seems like the smarter choice.
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Just called Samsung and they quoted me $200 with free shipping to and from. Which is excellent because that's cheaper than I've seen for an LCD and screen. These are my options so
1. $25 for screen and $50 labor for local guy to fix with no guarantee he won't break LCD then I'll be back to square 1
2. $199 send to Samsung guaranteed to work like new when I get it back.
#2 seems like the smarter choice.
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Not only that, but quite often these cheaper non genuine screens have problems. Plus you'll have some of warranty for the work.
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Not only that, but quite often these cheaper non genuine screens have problems. Plus you'll have some of warranty for the work.
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Your absolutely right, OEM is always better.