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Help backing up my phone

Hello all Im having a bit of trouble understanding a bit of the lingo here.
is making a recovery simply a backup? everytime I read about backups its just to help them install a custom rom.
I would like to make a back-up [if that's all it is] but I dont want a custom rom I just want a simple back-up,
I have rooted my phone via "FireChain's CF-Auto Root" method. Whats the most reliable way to back up?
can I not simply re-root my phone instead as backing up? or reset it?
Thanks for any help.:good:

JokerFrown said:
Hello all Im having a bit of trouble understanding a bit of the lingo here.
is making a recovery simply a backup? everytime I read about backups its just to help them install a custom rom.
I would like to make a back-up [if that's all it is] but I dont want a custom rom I just want a simple back-up,
I have rooted my phone via "FireChain's CF-Auto Root" method. Whats the most reliable way to back up?
can I not simply re-root my phone instead as backing up? or reset it?
Thanks for any help.:good:
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You're next step will be to install a custom recovery like CWM and you can get it from the market one you've downloaded the you will open the app and follow the prompts to flash the recovery after that's done then you can backup your rom
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ClockworkMod is a custom recovery.
You install it with Rom Manager. Then you can make a backup directly in clockwork or using the Rom Manager menu
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Im not sure I have the proper backup program installed
is it the CWM backup manager? or something else?
there I only have 2 options either to pull or push backups both of which I have no idea what they do.

Do you have Rom manager installed?
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See how it says backup current Rom in the Rom manager menu.
You can download Rom manager from the play store if you don't have it
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this is what I have its called CWM backup manager
its the free edition

JokerFrown said:
this is what I have its called CWM backup manager
its the free edition
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What you have is just the app to help you manage backup and restore in CWM recovery, it does nothing as far as making a backup. You will need a custom recovery in place your stock recovery.
A nandroid backup take a "snapshot" of your current ROM and data.
When you restore it, it will restore your phone exactly to the point when you made the nand backup.
There's a few ways to install a custom recovery.
-Through ROM manager (CWM).
-Through Goo Manager (TWRP).
-Using Odin to flash a recovery.
-Flash a new reocvery with an existing custom recovery.
Easiest thing right now if you already have ROM manager is to use that to flash CWM recovery.
Boot into recovery to do nandroid backup or use ROM manager.
The other backup is apps and/or data backup with Titanium Backup or similar.
This tyoe of backup save a copy of your current app plus the data that is associated with that app.

do you mind linking me to a tutorial that I can follow
preferably the most reliable way
Ive heard some bad things about clockwork but its fine if its the most reliable for this phone

JokerFrown said:
do you mind linking me to a tutorial that I can follow
preferably the most reliable way
Ive heard some bad things about clockwork but its fine if its the most reliable for this phone
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I don't really know of any links but a few questions for you. I can link you to some threads once you answer these questions
1-Are you rooted?
2-What recovery do you want to use? Official CWM, TWRP. or Philz touch version of CWM?
3-Do you have Odin set up and working?

1-Are you rooted?
Yes
2-What recovery do you want to use? Official CWM, TWRP. or Philz touch version of CWM?
Im not sure which, but I just want one that is most reliable if all are equal then the simplest one will do
I will take your word on it :cyclops:
3-Do you have Odin set up and working?
yes I do version 3.07
sry for the late response

JokerFrown said:
1-Are you rooted?
Yes
2-What recovery do you want to use? Official CWM, TWRP. or Philz touch version of CWM?
Im not sure which, but I just want one that is most reliable if all are equal then the simplest one will do
I will take your word on it :cyclops:
3-Do you have Odin set up and working?
yes I do version 3.07
sry for the late response
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-The easiest way is to flash CWM with ROM manager.
1. Download ROM Manager if you haven't
2, Open ROM Manager app
3. Chose the option to install Recovery (Maybe "Recovery Setup" or something like that)
4. Let it do it's thing
5. You should now have CWM recovery if all went correctly
-You could also use Odin to flash a recovery such as
Philz Touch CWM version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322676
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44692195&postcount=44

thanks baseball fan
I rebooted into recovery and I see it was a mistake
is there any way to undo and not be running in CWM recovery? and just go back to my rooted original version?

JokerFrown said:
thanks baseball fan
I rebooted into recovery and I see it was a mistake
is there any way to undo and not be running in CWM recovery? and just go back to my rooted original version?
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What do you mean by mistake? If you want to do a nandroid backup you need a custom recovery. The custom recovery doesn't affect how your ROM work and can do what your stock recvoery does plus more.
Anyhow if you want to go back to stock recovery you'll need to Odin back to stock and re-root your phone.
You can get the stock tar file here to use with ODIN here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258628

So all I have to do is root my phone again and itll get rid of my CWM and go back to normal?
im not sure what the feature is called but its when you hover your finger over the display and it shows more options
when I did that and booted into recovery it started going crazy for some reason, now it wiggles without me touching it
or even having my hant anywhere near it.

JokerFrown said:
So all I have to do is root my phone again and itll get rid of my CWM and go back to normal?
im not sure what the feature is called but its when you hover your finger over the display and it shows more options
when I did that and booted into recovery it started going crazy for some reason, now it wiggles without me touching it
or even having my hant anywhere near it.
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No you'll have to flash the stock ROM using ODIN. That will get rid of CWM and you'll have a stock recovery. After that is done you can root your phone again.
Have you tried just clearing cache and dalvik cache in recovery to solve the problem you're having with the "wiggle" thing?

I will try that right now
is there a specific tutorial I have to follow to go back to stock? I used chainfire's way to root my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005

JokerFrown said:
I will try that right now
is there a specific tutorial I have to follow to go back to stock? I used chainfire's way to root my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
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Link in Post #14 show how to get back to stock.

okay I have unrooted my phone :]
question though; when I backed up my s4 with rom manager I did not erase the backup
it there anyway to access that path somehow so that I may erase it?

JokerFrown said:
okay I have unrooted my phone :]
question though; when I backed up my s4 with rom manager I did not erase the backup
it there anyway to access that path somehow so that I may erase it?
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Just use a file manager and go to the CWM folder and delete the backup, you could delete the CWM folder itself if you have no plan of using it again.

[Q] Help! Rooted 4.3, Backed up, and now cant restore backup

Hello, I recently rooted my wifes Note 2 that was on the latest OTA 4.3. Was not easy BTW. I did a back up in recovery of boot, system, and data. I figured I was good to go and start trying out other roms.
The first one I flashed was Macks Allstar 5.0 rom. Everything was great. Then my wife informed me that she did not have all of her contacts backed up to google and some were only saved to her phone. So then I figure I could just restore the original backup and extract the contacts and be able to install them to any rom.
Thats when everything went wrong. Everytime I tried restoring the back up,it would crash and recovery would do like a reboot. After many attempts I figured id try another version of recovery. After flashing many earlier versions of twrp and trying to restore, I finally was able to complete a restore from version 2.6. I was ecstatic. But then my heart sank again when boot always hangs on samsung logo. And that is where I'm stuck. I am able to flash other roms no problem but cant restore my original backup.
Needless to say my wife is ready to kill me.
Please if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it. I have searched throughout this forum and internet for hours and can not seem to find any help with this issue.
I am thankful to have been able to get this far with the help from the XDA community posts I never needed direct help even with prior phone rootings but this one has got me stumped. Thanks in advance

You need to flash Phil's recovery version 6.0.7.9. If you cant restore your backup with Phil's then I'm thinking you might be sol. Make sure you know where you saved the backup to. It's either on the phone's internal sd or external sd card. Choose the correct location in Phil's recovery and if it isn't corrupt it should work. You may also want to copy your backup onto your pc just in case because that's your only backup and doing a full wipe or odin restore could permanently delete it. Good luck.

tx_dbs_tx said:
You need to flash Phil's recovery version 6.0.7.9. If you cant restore your backup with Phil's then I'm thinking you might be sol. Make sure you know where you saved the backup to. It's either on the phone's internal sd or external sd card. Choose the correct location in Phil's recovery and if it isn't corrupt it should work. You may also want to copy your backup onto your pc just in case because that's your only backup and doing a full wipe or odin restore could permanently delete it. Good luck.
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Thank you for your reply. I am at work right now and left the phone with my wife with a working rom. I will try phils recovery when I get home. As far as backups, I have two copies. One on my SD card and the other on PC but if they're both fried I guess that negates my efforts in redundancy. It's hard to believe the backup got corrupt so quickly. I have another backup of the 2nd rom I flashed and that one wont install as well.
Is there something I am doing wrong? If the backup file is corrupt, is there a way to extract contacts seperately out of backup?

Method b.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648855
My wife does that too. Sorry

ColeTrain! said:
Method b.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648855
My wife does that too. Sorry
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Life of a married man. Haha!
Well, as my backup file was done with TWRP, I tried method B with TWRP recovery and it wont work so now I'm in the process of trying method A. Will update once I tried it.
I think my problem has to do with TWRP not playing friendly with 4.3 ROMS. If that is the case method A looks like it will work.:fingers-crossed:

alexandnen said:
Life of a married man. Haha!
Well, as my backup file was done with TWRP, I tried method B with TWRP recovery and it wont work so now I'm in the process of trying method A. Will update once I tried it.
I think my problem has to do with TWRP not playing friendly with 4.3 ROMS. If that is the case method A looks like it will work.:fingers-crossed:
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That's exactly right. Bootloader isn't playing well with TWRP recovery. Phil"s 6.0.7.9 seems to be compatible in most ROM vs bootloader situations. Don't use latest version of Phil's recovery as it doesn't work as well and most people recommend this as well.
If Phil's recovery won't flash your restore then Odin all the way back to stock unrooted LK8 ROM then root it with the Toolkit and flash TWRP from the toolkit at the same time. Then see if you can restore at that point.

Looks like this project has come to an end. My wife likes her new rom and doesn't want to let me work on her phone anymore. She was able to get most of her contacts back I will make sure she backs her contacts to google and I will try to convince her to install Titanium backup to backup all her app data.
Unfortunately all I have is a work issued iphone that I have no interest in jailbreaking. I really don't see the point.
I am still confident that I could have eventually restored her backup successfully with the help here.
Thank you tx_dbx_tx and coletrain for your help.

(Q) Advice before installing CM11 or Vanir

Hello there
I want to install CM11 or Vanir nightlies on my friend's T999. His phone is unlocked, as we are in Spain and use a network called Orange. If I install the rom (I prefer installing CM by the installer, as his phone isn't rooted and that would simplify the process) would he lose his network connectivity? I know he probably won't but... Anything can happen. Also, should I go for the installer or the manual way? Do themes for CM work in Vanir nightlies? And what is the EFS folder for? Should I make a Backup of it?
Thanks
P.S: He runs on Official 4.3, he upgraded from OTA. Your help is much appreciated

Yes I'd back up EFS Folder. There's plenty of threads and posts around here. You will need to flash custom Recovery before flashing CM11 or others.

Thank You!
Perseus71 said:
Yes I'd back up EFS Folder. There's plenty of threads and posts around here. You will need to flash custom Recovery before flashing CM11 or others.
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Thank you Perseus71!
I will backup the EFS folder as you said. Also, should I root and install CWM recovery manually or should I just use the CM Installer App to make things easier and go anywhere from there?

Don't bother Rooting first. Just install CWM either with the app or via Odin. Once CWM is working, flash supersu zip via CWM to Root.

Thanks
Ok, I will do that
I found some kind of tutorial that uses ODIN to install CWM, in a page called Team Android, but it is from 2012 and I don't know if it is outdated/doesn't work.If it doesn't work with UVUENC2, could you please link some kind of tutorial to install CWM and Root? Thanks

That should be good. Try this one as well. Odin hasn't changed much to make it different. Make sure to use Odin Version 3.x or higher.

Odin
Ok I've got Odin 3.09 and the root .tar file. One last question, can I both root and install CWM by using Odin? Will the phone brick or something similar if I install them both by Odin? I found the root method for UVUENC2 and CWM 6.0.4.5 Advanced Edition (Philz Recovery) from a page called trueandroidblogspot(dot)com. It uses the same method as the video you posted in your reply. As always thanks for the help
Also, if I flash the SuperSU.zip file in Chainfire's thread, Can i have root Access just by doing that? I didn't know I could flash it, thanks again

Sounds like too complex round about way to do this.
1. Flash CWM you have via Odin.
2. Flash CM 11 via the CWM of Step 1.
I don't think you need to root beforehand unless you intend to keep Stock Touchwiz. CWM can take a Nandroid without Rooting the current Stock.

Perseus71 said:
Sounds like too complex round about way to do this.
1. Flash CWM you have via Odin.
2. Flash CM 11 via the CWM of Step 1.
I don't think you need to root beforehand unless you intend to keep Stock Touchwiz. CWM can take a Nandroid without Rooting the current Stock.
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Well I didn't know I could install CWM without Rooting thanks for the help again Can I recover the EFS folder via CWM? If I toy around with the phone's network, I will be in a really BAD situation and wouldn't forgive myself. Also, should I go for CM11 or CM10.2.1? I prefer stability to newer features.

If you take an EFS backup now while you are still on Touchwiz, you can retain it forever. I do believe you can restore it back on CM. If not then you can restore the nandroid of Touchwiz you took and restore that way.
I believe CM 11 is pretty stable as of now. Just make sure to grab their Stable release and not a nightly release.

Perseus71 said:
If you take an EFS backup now while you are still on Touchwiz, you can retain it forever. I do believe you can restore it back on CM. If not then you can restore the nandroid of Touchwiz you took and restore that way.
I believe CM 11 is pretty stable as of now. Just make sure to grab their Stable release and not a nightly release.
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Will be taking CM11 m3 as d2lte only has nightlies, thanks for all your advice. One last question, will I have a corrupted EFS folder if I upgrade from Jelly Bean 4.3 to Kitkat (CM11) or is it the same thing? I found that the best way for restoring it is to get a root explorer, copy and paste it (overwriting if it exists) and then booting in recovery and wiping data, cache and dalvik cache. Have you tried this method or any other?

So long you don't flash a different Modem, EFS won't be lost. You can update from 4.3 to CM 11 (Not the same. CM11 = 4.4).
Typically I use Terminal Emulator and Run Reboot NVRESTORE to restore corrupted EFS Partition.

Perseus71 said:
So long you don't flash a different Modem, EFS won't be lost. You can update from 4.3 to CM 11 (Not the same. CM11 = 4.4).
Typically I use Terminal Emulator and Run Reboot NVRESTORE to restore corrupted EFS Partition.
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Well I think that is all that I need, I thank you for all your help. This is the first time I flash a ROM in a GSM phone, other times it has been on Tablets and damaged cellphones. Really, thank you for all your assistance. I think this thread could be really helpful to noobs like me who are new on flashing ROMS

[Q]Restore CWM Backup of StockGB over CM11?

I made that big mistake to force a great upgrade on a friends phone and as always: problems occured and he's not happy, so my last resort is to restore the backup.
The base firmware was a Gingerbread-Stock. I rooted and created a backup with CWM. After that I had to install JB Stock to be able to install CM11 and now I have to go back to that backup.
Is it possible to just restore the backup? Or if I have to repartition/reformat the filesystem, is there a recovery that has that feature?
Thanks.

i think u have to flash Stock GB with ODIN, root it, install CWM and restore ur Backup.
but im not expert !!

matthias1976 said:
i think u have to flash Stock GB with ODIN, root it, install CWM and restore ur Backup.
but im not expert !!
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Well, I'm trying to find an easier way, because I have to walk him through it by mail or skype. :/

better do a fullbackup next time over adb

Restoring a nadroid onto another phone (same model)

Hi All,
I'm considering replacing my S3 with a different color one.
Curious if I'd be able to nandroid my device, copy that over to the new device (along with swapping in my SD card), and just restore the nandroid on the new S3.
Would this work? Would I have to root the new S3 first (obviously I'd have to install the same recovery)?
Is root something that is nandroided?
-Dirk

You'd just need to use the same recovery on the new phone, but it should work fine
Did you use philz to make the backup?

CNexus said:
You'd just need to use the same recovery on the new phone, but it should work fine
Did you use philz to make the backup?
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Yup - philz.
So would I need to pre-root the new phone before restoring the other phone's nandroid (i.e. would root travel with the nandroid)?

dirkdigles said:
Yup - philz.
So would I need to pre-root the new phone before restoring the other phone's nandroid (i.e. would root travel with the nandroid)?
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Nope, all you need is the recovery installed
Root is contained in the system, which is part of the nandroid so you can skip that step