Hello all Im having a bit of trouble understanding a bit of the lingo here.
is making a recovery simply a backup? everytime I read about backups its just to help them install a custom rom.
I would like to make a back-up [if that's all it is] but I dont want a custom rom I just want a simple back-up,
I have rooted my phone via "FireChain's CF-Auto Root" method. Whats the most reliable way to back up?
can I not simply re-root my phone instead as backing up? or reset it?
Thanks for any help.:good:
JokerFrown said:
Hello all Im having a bit of trouble understanding a bit of the lingo here.
is making a recovery simply a backup? everytime I read about backups its just to help them install a custom rom.
I would like to make a back-up [if that's all it is] but I dont want a custom rom I just want a simple back-up,
I have rooted my phone via "FireChain's CF-Auto Root" method. Whats the most reliable way to back up?
can I not simply re-root my phone instead as backing up? or reset it?
Thanks for any help.:good:
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You're next step will be to install a custom recovery like CWM and you can get it from the market one you've downloaded the you will open the app and follow the prompts to flash the recovery after that's done then you can backup your rom
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ClockworkMod is a custom recovery.
You install it with Rom Manager. Then you can make a backup directly in clockwork or using the Rom Manager menu
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Im not sure I have the proper backup program installed
is it the CWM backup manager? or something else?
there I only have 2 options either to pull or push backups both of which I have no idea what they do.
Do you have Rom manager installed?
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See how it says backup current Rom in the Rom manager menu.
You can download Rom manager from the play store if you don't have it
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this is what I have its called CWM backup manager
its the free edition
JokerFrown said:
this is what I have its called CWM backup manager
its the free edition
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What you have is just the app to help you manage backup and restore in CWM recovery, it does nothing as far as making a backup. You will need a custom recovery in place your stock recovery.
A nandroid backup take a "snapshot" of your current ROM and data.
When you restore it, it will restore your phone exactly to the point when you made the nand backup.
There's a few ways to install a custom recovery.
-Through ROM manager (CWM).
-Through Goo Manager (TWRP).
-Using Odin to flash a recovery.
-Flash a new reocvery with an existing custom recovery.
Easiest thing right now if you already have ROM manager is to use that to flash CWM recovery.
Boot into recovery to do nandroid backup or use ROM manager.
The other backup is apps and/or data backup with Titanium Backup or similar.
This tyoe of backup save a copy of your current app plus the data that is associated with that app.
do you mind linking me to a tutorial that I can follow
preferably the most reliable way
Ive heard some bad things about clockwork but its fine if its the most reliable for this phone
JokerFrown said:
do you mind linking me to a tutorial that I can follow
preferably the most reliable way
Ive heard some bad things about clockwork but its fine if its the most reliable for this phone
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I don't really know of any links but a few questions for you. I can link you to some threads once you answer these questions
1-Are you rooted?
2-What recovery do you want to use? Official CWM, TWRP. or Philz touch version of CWM?
3-Do you have Odin set up and working?
1-Are you rooted?
Yes
2-What recovery do you want to use? Official CWM, TWRP. or Philz touch version of CWM?
Im not sure which, but I just want one that is most reliable if all are equal then the simplest one will do
I will take your word on it :cyclops:
3-Do you have Odin set up and working?
yes I do version 3.07
sry for the late response
JokerFrown said:
1-Are you rooted?
Yes
2-What recovery do you want to use? Official CWM, TWRP. or Philz touch version of CWM?
Im not sure which, but I just want one that is most reliable if all are equal then the simplest one will do
I will take your word on it :cyclops:
3-Do you have Odin set up and working?
yes I do version 3.07
sry for the late response
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-The easiest way is to flash CWM with ROM manager.
1. Download ROM Manager if you haven't
2, Open ROM Manager app
3. Chose the option to install Recovery (Maybe "Recovery Setup" or something like that)
4. Let it do it's thing
5. You should now have CWM recovery if all went correctly
-You could also use Odin to flash a recovery such as
Philz Touch CWM version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322676
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44692195&postcount=44
thanks baseball fan
I rebooted into recovery and I see it was a mistake
is there any way to undo and not be running in CWM recovery? and just go back to my rooted original version?
JokerFrown said:
thanks baseball fan
I rebooted into recovery and I see it was a mistake
is there any way to undo and not be running in CWM recovery? and just go back to my rooted original version?
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What do you mean by mistake? If you want to do a nandroid backup you need a custom recovery. The custom recovery doesn't affect how your ROM work and can do what your stock recvoery does plus more.
Anyhow if you want to go back to stock recovery you'll need to Odin back to stock and re-root your phone.
You can get the stock tar file here to use with ODIN here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258628
So all I have to do is root my phone again and itll get rid of my CWM and go back to normal?
im not sure what the feature is called but its when you hover your finger over the display and it shows more options
when I did that and booted into recovery it started going crazy for some reason, now it wiggles without me touching it
or even having my hant anywhere near it.
JokerFrown said:
So all I have to do is root my phone again and itll get rid of my CWM and go back to normal?
im not sure what the feature is called but its when you hover your finger over the display and it shows more options
when I did that and booted into recovery it started going crazy for some reason, now it wiggles without me touching it
or even having my hant anywhere near it.
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No you'll have to flash the stock ROM using ODIN. That will get rid of CWM and you'll have a stock recovery. After that is done you can root your phone again.
Have you tried just clearing cache and dalvik cache in recovery to solve the problem you're having with the "wiggle" thing?
I will try that right now
is there a specific tutorial I have to follow to go back to stock? I used chainfire's way to root my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
JokerFrown said:
I will try that right now
is there a specific tutorial I have to follow to go back to stock? I used chainfire's way to root my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
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Link in Post #14 show how to get back to stock.
okay I have unrooted my phone :]
question though; when I backed up my s4 with rom manager I did not erase the backup
it there anyway to access that path somehow so that I may erase it?
JokerFrown said:
okay I have unrooted my phone :]
question though; when I backed up my s4 with rom manager I did not erase the backup
it there anyway to access that path somehow so that I may erase it?
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Just use a file manager and go to the CWM folder and delete the backup, you could delete the CWM folder itself if you have no plan of using it again.
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ok my phone is rooted but i wanted to know how can i make a nandroid back up of my current phone but i dnt want to install cwm and i dnt want to fash via odin since i dont want to trip counter flash nut can some one help me?
For your apps and data app even system apps you can use titanium backup..find it in the market
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THORMUNZ said:
ok my phone is rooted but i wanted to know how can i make a nandroid back up of my current phone but i dnt want to install cwm and i dnt want to fash via odin since i dont want to trip counter flash nut can some one help me?
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TWRP is another option... And flash counter is no longer an issue, there is an app that zeros out any flash counts. (triangle away)
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You can also flash a recovery with Mobile ODIN. It is not supposed to trip the flash counter. You can get the paid version in the Play store here. I believe you can also get the Lite version for free here on XDA.
THORMUNZ said:
ok my phone is rooted but i wanted to know how can i make a nandroid back up of my current phone but i dnt want to install cwm and i dnt want to fash via odin since i dont want to trip counter flash nut can some one help me?
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First off, what root method did you use? Most, if not all, have the installation of CWM Recovery as part of the process...
You could use Titanium Backup, as some stated, but it wont create an nandroid and I think that's what you're looking for. As Nadict stated, flash counter is no longer a problem since Chainfire made the triangle away app and it'll reset the count to 0. Flashing ROMs, nandroid, etc in recovery will not trip the counter. Look for TWRP in the dev section and it'll have the instructions of how to have it installed, the easy way is to download Goomanager from the Play Store and tapping menu then "InstallOpenRecoveryScript".
dragon_rckr said:
First off, what root method did you use? Most, if not all, have the installation of CWM Recovery as part of the process...
You could use Titanium Backup, as some stated, but it wont create an nandroid and I think that's what you're looking for. As Nadict stated, flash counter is no longer a problem since Chainfire made the triangle away app and it'll reset the count to 0. Flashing ROMs, nandroid, etc in recovery will not trip the counter. Look for TWRP in the dev section and it'll have the instructions of how to have it installed, the easy way is to download Goomanager from the Play Store and tapping menu then "InstallOpenRecoveryScript".
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wait this allows me to have a temp recovery that can make a back up?
THORMUNZ said:
wait this allows me to have a temp recovery that can make a back up?
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Nope, it's the easy way to over write the recovery from CWM to TWRP. It's the easy way to get it without using Odin or mobil Odin, the method I gave you will not add to the flash count.
Try it, you'll like
maybe try using online nandroid from the market. It will create a nandroid backup compatible with CWM without turning the phone off. It wont restore a nandroid though.
I installed yesterday Alliancerom but I wanted to go back to another customrom install and I have done that but I've got the problem with Recovery mod TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) me here you for helping me to see TWRP not received please
Can you please describe precisely what the problem is? Do you have problems getting into recoverymode? Or do you want to restore an older nandroid backup from a previous install of another custom Rom?
retrorom said:
Can you please describe precisely what the problem is? Do you have problems getting into recoverymode? Or do you want to restore an older nandroid backup from a previous install of another custom Rom?
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Yes I just want the old recovery mod because I want back my previous backup restore recovery but with this I can not see my backup so I want the old version of recovery you can help me here please
06-Ayhan said:
Yes I just want the old recovery mod because I want back my previous backup restore recovery but with this I can not see my backup so I want the old version of recovery you can help me here please
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I got through this recovery another custom ROM installed but every time I go this mod recovery remain the same I just want this recovery from
You mean you have stock recovery now but you want twrp recovery back ?
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06-Ayhan said:
Yes I just want the old recovery mod because I want back my previous backup restore recovery but with this I can not see my backup so I want the old version of recovery you can help me here please
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Ok, if I understand correctly you have a rooted phone, and you have tried a CWM recovery, then made a nandroid backup. Then decided to flash TWRP Recovery, and with this recovery you are unable to restore your first nandroid backup, correct?
So you used to have cwm recovery then? Backups made in cwm are not compatible with twrp so you'll need to flash cwm again before you restore your backup. You can find cwm in the Original Android Development section.
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D3_ said:
So you used to have cwm recovery then? Backups made in cwm are not compatible with twrp so you'll need to flash cwm again before you restore your backup. You can find cwm in the Original Android Development section.
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thanks guys it's okay I have the old version of cwm
I've CWM 6.0.2.3 installed.But i think it needs some kind of improvement.To select an option, we need to double touch that option.One for selecting and second for confirmation.This is because there would be less chance u select any other option rather that u want.Example is PhilZ recovery is the best recovery i used on my GNote..
Also, i want to know that which recovery (CWM or TWRP) is the best recovery for Gnex ?I heard TWRP is best alternative for CWM.
Thirdly, I used to restore my call logs and sms through Titanium Backup from CWM backup earlier.But the CWM backup format has now been changed.Instead of creating "backup" folder, contents are now saved in several folders called "blobs".So m left with no option to restore sms from newer CWM backup.
Any solutions or ideas??
CWM 6.0.2.3 reverted back to the old TAR format so doesn't use blobs any more unless you tell it to
EddyOS said:
CWM 6.0.2.3 reverted back to the old TAR format so doesn't use blobs any more unless you tell it to
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what about TWRP recovery?and have u used PhilZ recovery?did u noticed any change?
I am rather new at all things android development but keeping that in mind I have easily backed up, wiped, flashed, installed, and restored no problem using twrp. Tremendously simple to download, install, and use with no hiccups along the way
I would check some videos out on twrp you might find it useful in your decision making on which recovery to use
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MIKEYSAKZ said:
I am rather new at all things android development but keeping that in mind I have easily backed up, wiped, flashed, installed, and restored no problem using twrp. Tremendously simple to download, install, and use with no hiccups along the way
I would check some videos out on twrp you might find it useful in your decision making on which recovery to use
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ya..ur rite..i haven't used twrp till now but i heard its better than cwm..so m surely gonna give it a try
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what about TWRP recovery?and have u used PhilZ recovery?did u noticed any change?
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TWRP - I don't like it personally, I always use CWM. PhilZ? Never heard of it...
EddyOS said:
TWRP - I don't like it personally, I always use CWM. PhilZ? Never heard of it...
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philZ made modified CWM recovery for devices like S2 and GNote..
mannyvinny said:
philZ made modified CWM recovery for devices like S2 and GNote..
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As far that I know of PhilZ only makes recovery for Exynos-based device, like the original Note, there's no PhilZ for the Gnex. TWRP has all the thing that you've said earlier (And IMHO, more user friendly), but backups aren't interchangeable between the two. So you'll have to get rid of those blobs.
Hi all,
So I've gotten myself into a bootloop by messing with permissions/ownership in the /data/ directory. I would like to recover by losing as little data/settings as possible (I only rooted with chainfire AutoRoot anyway, so stock, rooted, ROM).
1) I have a few months-old TWRP backup, is it possible to extract what I need from this?
2) If not, what rom is my best bet to flash to recover a stock, rooted ROM, with my old data? I tried re-flashing CF-AutoRoot, but it didn't do anything...
Thanks for any help
Well first things first.
1. Did you install a custom ROM?
2.or backup your rooted stock?
3. Did you already do a full wipe
(Data/factory reset)
4. If you didn't do step 3 but you did step 1...I would advise a dirty flash of the custom ROM that you had
4. If only step two is applicable I only see two possible routes
4.1a. Use Odin to update twrp or download a new custom stock ROM and flash that so you can boot...then try and update twrp to the newest version and then try to flash your backup to see if it was a version problem
OR
4.1b. Start from scratch but I would advise using cwm from now on. twrp to my knowledge isn't updated as frequently as cwm
Hope that helps. Feel free to pm
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infamous916 said:
Well first things first.
1. Did you install a custom ROM?
2.or backup your rooted stock?
3. Did you already do a full wipe
(Data/factory reset)
4. If you didn't do step 3 but you did step 1...I would advise a dirty flash of the custom ROM that you had
4. If only step two is applicable I only see two possible routes
4.1a. Use Odin to update twrp or download a new custom stock ROM and flash that so you can boot...then try and update twrp to the newest version and then try to flash your backup to see if it was a version problem
OR
4.1b. Start from scratch but I would advise using cwm from now on. twrp to my knowledge isn't updated as frequently as cwm
Hope that helps. Feel free to pm
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Hi! Thanks for the reply!
I have not done a data wipe, and I would like not to...
I used CF-AutoRoot, I'm not 100% sure if this counts as flashing a custom ROM or not, it's supposed to keep stock ROM but give you SU. I have tried repeating CF-AutoRoot again, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem...
The only backup I have is of the full phone image, which I don't want to restore since it is months old and I would lose data... Is there a way to only restore selected files from the backup? So far I have restored CWM and can access an adb shell...
Thanks
OK so basically as far as I know you are Sol on your original rom ....that's why I always flash a custom ROM but the data stored should still be on your internal (pictures, videos, things of that nature). your app data and accounts however is not...for example games and such...I would advise titanium backup and do a backup of all your app data at least once a week from now on
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Agreed ...you are going to lose data in this case ...as you will need a restore of your old backup ..or fresh install of a new rom ...
Backups are king when playing with device roms and recoveries etcetera ..g
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Btw twrp has been updated
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Hello,
I'm about to install a custom recovery... I'm on stock 4.2.2 & rooted
Is there anyway to backup my current stock recovery??
Titanium backup
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Deep Nox said:
Titanium backup
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And how??
You could make a complete backup of your current system ( should always do and save to the desktop) or just the recovery. Open TB go to backup and recovery, scroll down til you find the recovery and click on it.
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absolutely no need
the recovery comes with official roms, are always bundled with the rom itself
samsung have made it quite funny, as every time you flash samsung's original rom
it erase everything and install it's own stuff
(which is including erasing everything in the internal memory)
if you use a custom rom, you don't ever need the old recovery
it's function is too limited
I didn't know that flashing the stock rom will revert also to the stock recovery
Thanks
By the way, I didnt find backing up reovery in TB
Does anyone have the link to download TWRP 2.7.0.0 ? I can't access my USB storage with 2.6.3.0. I need it for the GT-N5110. Thank you in advance.
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